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You will never make it

You've already failed

You had hardly even started

Failed what?

>making track
>sounds muddy and flat
>start EQing
>hey adding more top end makes it stand out more
>EQ the fuck out of everything
>everything's got top end now
>somehow it sounds even worse than before though there is some more clarity
And then I removed most of the EQs, all of the high and low cuts, and fixed it by tweaking the dynamics instead and now it sounds way fuller and punchier.
Lesson learned. EQ should be used sparingly.

you can do more than just EQ to make things stand out better, i personally like using saturation

Yeah, cutting frequencies removes harmonic content which makes it sound bad rather quickly. Now I have a tape dynamics plugin on all tracks so I can play with the dynamics and that works way better. Also glues it together nicely.
Note that I don't actually know what I'm doing. Only just now trained my ear to pay close attention to dynamics.

>sounds muddy and flat
You should have stopped here and make a better recording.
Fucking nothing can fix a bad take

love

It's just softsynths, no recordings.

same thing applies
make your synths sound not muddy and flat if you want something that doesn't sound muddy and flat

please stop giving stupid advice.

>EQ should be used sparingly.
gotcha

>fix your sounddesign problems in the sounddesign instead of throwing tape saturation plugins around when mixing
how is that bad advice

bit of tape saturation on beat instaud.io/3Wb8

What if the synth part isn’t the cause of the problems?

I like it, the hard hitting bass sounds good on my phone, dunno what it’s like on proper headphones

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Hey /prod/, I need help with vocal recording. My vocals sound too loud no matter how quiet they are, they just sound off no matter what I do. It sounds perfect when I'm recording it in monitoring mode and can hear myself in the headphones, but when I put it over the song, it sounds off for some reason? Can you guys help me out here? Someone told me my mic gain was too high, but I turned it down and was unable to find a sweet spot where I still get the sharpness of gain and not be too loud or quiet so I just put it back to max gain. Anything lower than max gain doesn't "resonate" enough for my ear to enjoy it, what am I doing wrong?

clyp.it/v2ws20ex

clyp.it/v2ws20ex

My main man Sadowick should've asked the make a wish foundation to give him an audio engineering book lmao baka senpai
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anyone using studio one know if it's possible to add controls to vst parameters in the mixer

pic-related shows the controls for the native split-stereo panner.

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shiet, did sadowick really fuck up this badly or is there something else going on? I didn't see his (or this) vid, but it may have something to do with the daw sample rate they are running or something?

when mr. u-he himself steps in and tell you you're wrong, there really isn't much room to argue.

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fuck this guy for making his plugs screech when you pirate them

just buy them goy

and where would i get the money to buy them ?? at my 400 euro monthly sales clerk job?? na nigga

So apparently this sample is annoying.

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I don't think there are any killer samples like Newjack or Phantom left in the funk/disco/soul catalogue. I mean, Justice sampled 400 albums for Cross and most assuredly listened to hundreds more, and The Brothers Johnson and Tenebrae samples were the best of the bunch.

I sampled The Jackson 5 for this, so I went the easy route without looking for obscure stuff after listening to obscure stuff for days, and I think what makes it annoying is that they sing out of tune in parts. Slightly altering the pitch doesn't help.

I need to take a shower and think. I'm thinking about just switching to a warm arena rock sound that's less sample-based.

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New track!

soundcloud.com/gnsis777/get-siked

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kill yourself

>Justice sampled 400 albums
source?

The sample is fine just try processing it in other way

mtv.com/news/1599116/french-duo-justice-reveal-songwriting-sampling-secrets-50-cent-slipknot-take-note/

Nah, it sucks. It doesn't fit with any idea I have to make it into a song. The thing about Justice's Cross album is that almost every song has a gimmick. Genesis uses the wubs and filter cutoff tricks. Newjack uses a guitar input Jack sample or something similar to create a gate-y robot blues-rock sound. Phantom has the cool sample and strings. DANCE uses a children's choir. Stress is basically the most stressful EDM song ever because of excellent string samples.

My point is that to make an album like Cross, you really have to have a vision of a concept album and write it so that each song extends over several minutes and never gets boring or repetitive like Daft Punk, for example. Justice's music is always changing. To make an album like Cross, you really have to have the best of the best funk/disco/souls samples, and I just don't think there are any good ones left. That's why Justi e moved to arena rock. They listened to shitloads of albums and found Newjack, Stress, and Phantom - the absolute best. Then they left the sampling almost completely alone and made AVD.

Or maybe they're just tired of the painstaking work they had to do to research and sample all those records, since they're already super successful and don't need something insane like Cross anymore.
If I were in their situation I wouldn't have the willpower to do a monumental task like that other than the first time to make it big. After that it's unnecessary, so they might as well have fun with their music instead of torturing themselves sampling sub-second snippets from hundreds of songs.

People have been sampling for decades before Cross, and I'm sure people were saying shit like "sampling is dead, all the good samples have been used now" way before Justice even started to make music.

The only samples that have been depleted are those from famous songs (and even those can be manipulated in an infinite number of ways, so they're still very samplable in original ways). There's still a practically infinite number of obscure records ready to be sampled, but obviously you won't find those on music making and sampling forums (it would be like looking for a billion dollar idea online, which is retarded because anyone who actually has it isn't going to share it).

It's time to actually go visit record stores, yard sales, etc.

Anybody?

jesus fucking christ you are so annoying
that's a good sample and you just suck at sampling and you fucked the groove up

i can hear exactly how this song should be and it's pissing me off

>sampling the Jackson 5
Do you have a death wish?

The thing they did, and which would make the process easier is, first of all, they had two people, which increases determination for both involved - simply, it makes it more fun. Secondly, they wrote the music on guitar and piano and then transferred it to a Juno 106 - that's why I'm using the Tal U-Uno plugin, which is a Juno 60 emulation I believe - it sounds really similar to the Genesis bass synth. I have my guitar nearby too. So again, they wrote the music together and agreed when something sounded good - and THEN once the music was written for the entirety of the album, or nearly completely written, they looked for samples, and during that sample scouring they discovered Newjack, Stress and Phantom.

I need another man.

Where do you live?

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Then why don't you join me? Go make it better. It's Jackon 5 Love is the Thing You Need

>sound too loud no matter how quiet they are
Bro you fucked up your ears smdh.

Southeast Kansas.

... well shit i guess i'm not in the middle of anything. i was about to completely start this mix over but ehhhh

... drop disc again and I apologize for being a dick

see
that's the guy you want to collab with

this is my practice beat im using it for practice

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I'm not from there but I know people who live in Kansas.
Which city? I can make some phonecalls.

Anybody have advice for mixing harsh vocals?

Thoughts on the sampling on Eric Andre's album?

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>clyp.it/v2ws20ex
sounds fine to me? i mean its a bit loud but like not awful?

It might be that I'm slightly off beat but somethings sounds off to me lol

Independence, Kansas

gonna have a see what i can do with it also, might take a few days tho so keep ur eyes on

you definitely need to fix the timing issues, and the vocals don't sit in the mix brilliantly, but i was talking about the volume specifically, which isn't terrible

I'll see if there's someone in my circle who knows anyone. Give me a minute.

don't do it u gon get raped

>Justice is my cock's name

>Sounding is my cock's game

wtf bros you told me massive-x was shit
youtu.be/s_SCLyHiSfg

because it is shit

have this guy's sample packs

cant get past that haircut

I downloaded your preview the other night and tried to work on it but it was sidelined by my own stuff. Funny enough I have the same approach as justice but I’m solo and make more aggressive dance music and had no clue what those guys use a creative process. I’ll go back to it tonight and maybe you’ll be into the direction I take.

>I have the same approach as justice but I’m solo and make more aggressive dance music
Sounds cool.
Would you post something please?

youtu.be/uiuqeEtVrtE?t=3451

>if you could instantly master one genre of music you never took the time to master which genre would that be?
>what's that ADD music that's like super complex? Noisa and Flume...
>if I could have one thing downloaded into my brain it would be all that stuff... like how that, occurs...
>like that could be just applied to everything else, really.

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what is your problem?

>DEATH GRIPS interests me
>(no (okay minimal) secret soundzzz
>industrial


THIS MIX HAS BEEN PISSING ME OFF TEAR IT APART

i'm going to resample to make it tighter in general but i need confirmation that other people perceive the same problems first

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fuck off brent we're not trying to have an argument, we just want to make fun of you.

>no angry black man screaming
>drums could probably do with hitting through the mix a bit better

overall its good though, cant fault it. i think if it had an angry black man screaming nonsense over the top of it it would feel fuller

meme of the day

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Please understand the period he comes from, I'm near his age and we both grew up on mid 90s/early 2000s trance. There's a different focus in songwriting there and journey through the song over the course of 6 to 9 minutes was the appeal, the progression of the mood while maintaining a steady beat to pop e tabs to. Sound design was not yet the final frontier and slowly evolving supersaw leads were the standard. Think of it as classic rock vs modern math metal.

>>drums could probably do with hitting through the mix a bit better
that was a creative decision but i was still on the fence about that so thanks for bringing it up, i'll probably clear out some room for them probably now :p

BAD

meme of the day

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daddy here

I guess, but it's weird to hear those mentioned as "super complex ADD music" (or even just mentioning Flume and Noisia together like they're in the same tier, let alone the same genre) when IDM stuff like Autechre and Squarepusher (which are very old as well) is so much more ADD and complex that it makes Noisia and Flume sound like nursery rhymes.

I understand not listening to him, but choosing someone like Flume (shortly after he said he doesn't listen to him, so he just picked him as someone he thinks makes super complex music) is just strange.

I mean, the guy uses Max and Reaktor, surely he knows about the more complex parts of the IDM scene, no?

Please no.
I'm still dealing with the ED from all the shit we've written yesterday.
My PornMegaLoad subscription expires in a couple of days and I'd like to be able to use it at least once before then.

listen i just can't stop thinking about all the times we have shared, I it pains me to be without you.
please be my little spoon

>watching porn
>paying for porn
get it together

All the women where I live are disgustingly skinny, so I need my daily dose of fat bitches to get me going y'kno...
If I have to pay to jerk off to women who aren't some creepy skeleton with only two boobs, then so be it goddamn it.

>All the women where I live are disgustingly skinny
where do you live?

i live in your momma uterus

Independence, Kansas

I live in south texas and its like everyone is fat down here its probably because of all the mexicans

my foreskin has the power to make a hit

>my foreskin has the power to take a hit*
Sorry, Autocorrect.

gamer moment

BOTTOM TEXT

im so bored will u be in my band now or what

I'm already in a band though.
Here's some of our work:
youtube.com/watch?v=QxDQM19gQXI

can i join

Sorry, I asked my uncle (the leader) and that's what he responded verbatim:
>you didn't tell anybody about our secret, right kiddo?
>good boy!
>sorry, were you saying something?

god damn, such a gamer moment
>does fortnite dance

>cries

Ok but seriously, we've been shitpostin way too much. I don't want to ruin the thread like last year so I'm gonna stop posting completely now.
I'll always remember you

/prod/ has been dead for years so you two talking shit hardly matters

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And that's never gonna change if we keep going.

peeeepeee

lads when are we gonna start a /prod/ boyband/collaborative project

i would unironically give it a shot if there were like minded autists who weren't complete faggots and didn't suck

never gonna happen fr tho m8.
pretty sure it's been done before and it's a complete failure, nobody gave a shit except for the people in it (and the music obviously wasn't great)

Just wanna play a minimoog with a delay pedal

i know its not the same but the free minimoog plug ins are pretty good

bump

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This tune goes really well with this webm. Do those guys have soap on their shoes or are they just really drunk?

youtu.be/254sCXAaZNE

/prod/ newbie here, how do I get a drum sound like this

since how loud bass is in the mix changes with it's pitch, is it worth it to put a compressor on the bass to make sure it stays at a manageable level?

I can't decide If I like the bass being super present in this track or not, think I might try compressing it.

markashe.bandcamp.com/track/on-your-strings

use shitty newer drum machine samples and don't do too much to it.

>bandcamp
fuck off

Eq and compression

it sounds good but its limited by the structure
this song sounds good yet boring because of the song structure

doesn't this fag literally post in this thread
fucking yikes

Yeah. You could also use multiband compression to target specific notes that are standing out more than others.

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Sounds cool

i have not been getting the negative feedback i require for the last couple songs i posted fuck you guys

I'm trying to record with my Presonus through jack inputs instrument. But i get this issue where i can either listen to direct input which has no latency ,but remove all the playback which mute the other track i'm recording over. OR i can hear it on playback but with a noticable latency from my playing which fuck up my playing while recording. The best is that i could hear the playback and the direct input without the instruments on the playback with the latency.

Hopefully i've made myself understandable.

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lrn 2 mix breh.

>gainstaging
>relative leves in mono
>panning
>mix into a Master Buss chain
>SUBTRACTIVE EQ FIRST (start with shelving highs and lows, then do mids)
>cooooompress
>EQ again, boost where needed. (PS, secret here is to use only the best eq's you have to boost)
>redo levels as needed
>automation, bitch
>verbs, delays, etc. Compress them & eq them too
>analog / coloring plugs on channels & busses as needed
>finish with mastering plugs

/prod/ bros, I only have 3 things to say r/n

1-- Master the Mix BASSROOM
2-- GULLFOSS EQ
3-- Acustica EQ's

fuckin' A.

that is all

Why are people imitating me? What's the point?

do these samples sound dumb as fuck or nah? I think the track could work without them as well
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Anyway, I tried the Nightshine compressor, which is an emulator of the Alesis 3630 as someone suggested, and I don't know if I got closer to the Cross sound or not. I don't know how to mix well.

It'd be fun to look together with another person on Discord, sharing links to cool samples, and sharing Ableton project files where we write the music in midi.

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They don't sound dumb. They sound boring to me, but I guess I like a different style

why do so many of the bad tracks posted here sound like circus music? is circus music the lowest standard of music?

Why don't you have a song we can laugh at? It's probably low effort garbage

NOT HIM BUT LAUGH AT MY TRACK AND CRITIQUE

So I EQ'd things to the best of my ability and tried to make it about the same loudness as Newjack from Cross. I had to remove a whole lot of bottom end from the kick to better match Justice

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This will be important because I'm just going to make every song in one project file like an album. I'll probably scrap this one, but it's good practice and I can reuse the master setup.

crap that is so loud jesus christ
i think i am deaf now
thank you for ruining my career
i am an hero
zzzzzzzzz

you do you

very cool man. that sample sounds like a guy doing that thing where you move ur finger up and down on ur lips

That's quieter than the last one. It's about the same volume as Cross. That is a loud album.

what daw are you using?
do you have loads of effects going on?

my focusrite does this when i have loads of effects going on, so i have to record without then put them on after

i don't know it if helped or not, i would say its more listenable. the biggest problem i think is that there is no low end in the sample, and there is no layer to support it so it ends up sounding really weak. it also seems kinda low quality.

that being said, cross is probably my favorite album, and in my younger days, it used to be a much bigger influence on me, though not to such an autistic degree (for instance this :clyp.it/g4alznxq ). i'll have to take a crack at it now that i'm not as shitty as i was.

that lil anecdote about writing the music before searching for a good sample is actually high iq and i will add that to my bag of tricks

personally i have pivoted into cartoony future house shit clyp.it/3oxyspvj

>I'm just going to make every song in one project file like an album
>reuse the master setup
just stop fucking posting what the fuck

I would rather have Demarcus come back as a regular visible poster than have to listen to more about how all the good samples are gone and how you want to completely rip off somebody else's sound but worse

Drop the sample, with all your previews it sounds like you are struggling to make it work way too hard. The high end is a mess with it and holds your mix down. Your other option is to chop the vocal out as much as possible on the vowel sounds. Also stop slamming your drums.

where did all the samples go?!

dj shadow

Thanks for helping me out. I removed the bitcrush but kept erosion, and added lowmend to the sample. The thing about the Cross album is that if you listen to it again, it has almost no real low end, but a type of analog warmth bass-y low end on every sound in the music. I'm not sure how to recreate it. Thanks again.

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listen justice fucking suck please stop trying to emulate them and make something original, its way more interesting

take it back

i will never take it back, they were boring then and are boring now

What, like the trap stuff always posted here?

Kek. Cross is the most listenable EDM album ever. It's more a concept album than EDM, but that's why it's so great.

i guess i prefer sebastian now anyway

this is better. try fucking with parallel processing. the other dude is right though the high end does make it difficult

And personally, also, I think Cross was mostly created by Mr. Oizo and Sebastian. Justice just wrote the music and picked the samples. The album would have sounded like a trainwreck without them. There's no way they would have achieved that sound without help in such a short time. So, my point is that it's Mr. Oizo's and Sebastian's album just as much as it is Justice's.

no trap is equally as boring.

cross is boring and all french artists are unironically boring

your music is probably boring and you are projecting. hate to see it.

that does explain why all their other albums are shit, and their music before that was way less clean

french artists should stay in the early 2000's where they belong

Nah, dude. French artists peaked in 1908.

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youtu.be/2HPfQIV6yBQ

How do I make / program acid lines like in this song?

I remember discovering the studio that did the mastering for that album and now I can't find it anymore

thinkin about sending that mix in, eh? lol

I did a nooby thing that added unnecessarily to the high end. I added an overdrive after a chorus.

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Nilesh Patel

yep, I swear he had a website
allmusic.com/artist/nilesh-nilz-patel-mn0001825397
seems like he's gone sadly

Bro I'll fite you irl over Vitalic tho.

>I think Cross was mostly created by Mr. Oizo and Sebastian.
Evidence of this?

There's no way they went from We Are Your Friends using a basic sampler to creating the simultaneously warmest, yet blazing high end EDM album ever made. There's no way they figured out vocal freezes or the use of gates without Sebastian's or Mr. Oizo's help. You can believe what you want, but it's almost certain they had help with the mixing and effects to make each element of each song stand out.

Personally, I think my song is starting to sou d warm because I'm adding back in some bass to parts that I had previously filtered out.

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Justice Cross album music is certainly possible to make - now I know - but every single thing has to be perfect. I just need better samples.

>I just need better samples.
dude i'm sorry but if you really think that's what's holding you back you're delusional and (meme alert) never gonna make it, and that's looking past ripping off somebody else's sound

You sound jealous. I've said plenty of times that I'm open to a music partner. Every single other poster here sounds like a rip-off of every other guy here.

how long did it take you to copy their sound

i'm not playing that game m8
most posters are ripoffs and most musicians want to be ripoffs, you get singled out because you're especially obsessed with being a ripoff lol

I've been trying to get their sound since right around the time Daft Punk's RAM came out, shortly thereafter. I quit making music after about a year of trying, and came back off and on, making remixes here and there until about a month ago ( I won a remix contest called A Band Called Quinn - Forget About It where I went by the group name Artifice, you can look it up - it sucked), and everything clicked yesterday and today. I decided to try Nightshine again. I've listened to Cross so much that I have an ear to what sounds like that album and what doesn't. It's my favorite album of all time. I still remember when I was listening to DP's Discovery and researching them until I came across someone mentioning Justice, so I decided to check them out, and they just blew me away.

The main trick to Justice's sound is that there are very few elements going on at once, but it sounds like there are. Cross's music is always going somewhere - lots of musical transitions.

I want to sound like them because Cross is the best sounding EDM album ever made. Who wouldn't want to sound like them?

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For instance, I know exactly what their kick sounds like, and it has very little low end but a nice mid-range punch, especially on Genesis. The drums aren't especially difficult to do, but everyone online pumps them up to be so. You just take a heavy low-end kick (mine might be acoustic - I can't remember) and remove some of the low end, say 11db using a multiband compressor, and it gives you the DMX sound without the ugly tail.

One thing they do a lot is add a slap back reverb or sub to their kick. I don't know how to do that properly. Nightshine is a subtle but integral part of the sound which I ignored. Thanks to the guy who suggested it again

to be fair it is a great album

I'm using Kick Thud Mix kick in Ableton

Also, lots of automation everywhere. Some snares have gated reverb, some snares are increased in volume. Some random snares or tails of snares like they always throw in. Complete attention to detail. You have to write a song on a guitar, throw the chords and melody onto a Juno 60 Tal Uno emulation VST, and then envision a dance album like a baroque neoclassical metal album. Absolute complete attention to detail to make it sound alive rather than sterile like most EDM.

jesus

I think the Bogdanoffs ghost produced †

Also I can't make fun of this guy, I went borderline psycho trying to emulate this sound

Go for it, I just sampled some of the footage at the RNC for my latest track.
it's a sign.

I like reading your posts bro. Interesting insight into stuff I've rarely listened to and never made. That said I disagree with you about their progression being drastic, its consistent and I think you're not being as objective because of your appreciation of their sound. I'm going to listen to their first album some more then give you my feedback.

Not that guy but it's clear that their ghost producer died or fell out with them after the first album, their stuff afterwards sounds all pokey and pinched. Those guys are straight up milli vanilli, I don't agree that it's Sebastian or Oizo though.

They started releasing songs from that album in 2004/2005... You really think they never made music before that either? They had their first release in 03 so assume they each made music for at least 2 years before that. In response to their sound changing I wouldn't be able to comment yet but the most recent album from 2018 on spotify was pretttty good.

Squarepusher and Ae are far from ADD music friend. In fact you need large amounts of patience to get through their stuff esp Autechre

There's demos of the cross songs online and they have a pinched uneven sound that shows no mixing knowledge.

Cross sounds like they commissioned a laboratory to engineer those demos. Definitely was not done on a laptop with cheap speakers like they claim.

I guess it is possible that they did it alone, but they most assuredly got mixing tips from someone at Ed Banger. There weren't tutorials back then. Compare We Are Your Friends to the demo of Let There Be Light. You can hear a gradual improvement of their sound. It's not hard to do if you know not to pump up the bass too much, and to master with an Alesis 3630 or Nightshine. The Nightshine adds sidechain without actual sidechain.

fuck cross posters

I'm using the Dance Master preset with the default 1 and 2 brought down to near 0 with 3 brought down at 255. A fourth adding just a little bit of brightness to the top end. Don't pump up the low end if you want Justice's sound. Cross is mixed pretty bright.

>some snares are increased in volume. Some random snares or tails of snares like they always throw in

this is day one shit what the fuck, your posts are straight embarrassing and spammy, fuck off

ether this justice fanboy is a troll or has too much autism

Fuck you're right.
For some reason my brain thought of ADD as what is actually OCD.
My bad.

honestly based on what he's said it really just sounds like some guy who's been "into" music/production and never dived in for real, maintained/built up this one album to be the peak of artistic achievement, and then due to a combination ignorance and a small scope of music/production (i.e not understanding small details are not specific to justice and that common place things aren't crazy) and an assumption that since he's been doing this for 7~ years that he can't be *that* terrible (despite never having commited serious time), he's come to the conclusion that there are "secrets" and factors like silver bullet samples that would get him where he wants to be.

... i mean it sucks but i don't give a fuck, he's just another sammy chasing his tail. at least the other faggots have the courtesy not to spam their bullshit... well mostly

Cross is called the most important EDM album of the 21st century with lots of producers chasing that sound. Don't act self-righteous. Most of the stuff I hear posted here is amateur and a lot of guys are obsessed with paid magic plugins.

Justice came along and many people said that they were what Daft Punk should have sounded like. Don't downplay the importance of that album just to put me down.

>Cross is called the most important EDM album of the 21st century
regardless of whether that's true or not i don't think you understood what i'm getting at, and other posters have nothing to do with it

don't think of the sampling and mixing techniques in the context of the edm world, think in terms of all music.

I simply do not care.

okay that has to be another user lmao

You're trying to teach me something I don't care about. Three weeks ago I didn't know how Tom properly mix, and now I've got a pretty good sound. Justice's sound is about a lot of small things put together. It's intricate. You're trying to explain to me there's a bigger picture and that I need to learn more in order to downplay my success so you can present yourself as a mentor or to place yourself in a higher position. I don't care.

hi, sorry for being new, i want to separate a voice narration from the background music (mostly piano) in a track. had a few tries with the voice cancellation option inaudacity and I can't get it right, is there any other program that will do it easier?

forgot to add the most important part of the post: any general tips or pointers on how to cancel voice in audio tracks would be appreciated

i think izotope RX is probably your best bet for that, its expensive but worth it.

(or you could steal it who am i to care)

but if the vocals are really blatant you're gonna struggle

no you just shit up these threads trying to chase a sound but aren't willing to actually put in the time and patience to learn, you first started off crying because there are no good samples left, which is the most retarded thing i've ever heard, and now you're on about a fucking mix. who fucking cares what they did? how's about getting it right for YOUR song, what they do to their's isn't magically going to make your song any better.

Post your music

I'm getting off and going to sleep. I won't see anything if you post. I have a headache.

i don't need justification because i don't care how terrible my music sounds, but i don't shit up threads crying about has been french producers from the early 2000's

you're replying to a new user btw aint me


jfc learn to post

oh

meant for

instaud.io/3WoU

this never went anywhere but thought id post it anyway

i kinda suck at structure this might be better

instaud.io/3WoV

>5minutes long when it doesn't need to be
>still goes nowhere
>drums don't change at all

dude, if i were you, i'd add your fav trap beat to whatever DAW you are using, and completely just follow exactly the arrangement they've done, drums and everything.

>they still use reason for their opussies
youtu.be/0YCMOft2KYo

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i mean its pretty cool but, so much effort

I had that ms10 for the ds

Look for some 8bit/chiptune drum packs.

Or you can try and make your own. Use a bitcrusher on your drume and then eq appropriately.

who /renoise/ here
switching over after 5 years of ableton live (trying to get a linux setup)
pretty impressed so far, probably the best value for money DAW i've ever seen

is it better value over reaper that is $60?
i'd like to try renoise just because it can be used on linux, im a strong ableton user, how does it feel moving over?

i've been using it for 2 days and i'm already making music. there's nothing "missing". actually so far i've been finding features that ableton DOESN'T have.
it's definitely a "power user" DAW, so it fits right in with the linux ecosystem. i can imagine how powerful and productive it can be when you learn all the shortcuts and become familiar with the tracker style.
try it out, the demo is extremely permissive.

thanks ill give it a go

fuck man it looks so complicated, please tell me it gets easier to understand

anyone wanna buy my reason 10 licence for £150, bought it on a whim now fully regret it

this sounded like ass from my phone but not so much from my monitors
it lacks a bit on the mid range compared to justice and obviously you need to work on the arrangement

what specifically is complicated about it? the only difference between renoise and traditional DAWs is the tracker vs piano roll.
all i did was read the manual that comes with the download and i'm starting to get comfortable.
this guys has a pretty good tutorial series.
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOMuI-j1vRxRtJsLU4Ojbz257PtuUU-k4

Stop working in a shitty 400 euro a month job maybe?

When I record the gusic it sounds really forced. How do I remedy this?

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Don't record it.

Just bought (pic related) you guys

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>youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOMuI-j1vRxRtJsLU4Ojbz257PtuUU-k4
will check, thanks

I don't know how you can be bothered.

regret it yet?

lets hear some sounds then, curious to hear it

I’m not bothered

No it sounds pretty good if you like Valhalla reverbs

Sounds reverbie

would still like to hear some samples, but sure i love valhalla shit, cool

Might try and record something through it later, but you’d probably be better off watching divkids YouTube video

Valid solution to gusic issues.

*thumbs up

That’s a lot of hp

I guess it is if you are worried about hp. All mine is studio setup so I’m not bothered about low hp modules. It’s about the same size as a guitar pedal but it fits in with my euro stuff and a lot smaller than any rack effects unit so I don’t mind

Meme of the day.
Just for today Edition.

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make one about justiceposter

I made this the other day.
If I get another idea I'll make it.

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hey guys i gave feedback here i never got feedback on this

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need more justice poster memes

>cheap ass cpu can't run massive x because it lacks avx
I can't even use it and I'm already disappointed

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yeah you did someone said "sounds cool"
don't lie like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i will listen now

>instaud.io/3W6G
drums are just god awful samples, get better ones/mix them way better (just get better ones)

honestly the rest is okay you just need to arrange and add more stuff

Alright, here you go.
I saved this template for when the Narutoposter (from the Guy vs Kakashi post he made for Demarcus) showed up, but he seems to have disappeared so here you go.
Will post a couple more as I make them.

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there are no samples left :/

Anotha one.

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One more

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That's what they want you to think.

Last one for now.

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love em, expecting big things from now on my son

daddy out

t-thanks

it sucks anyway

does it sound better now instaud.io/3Wu9

>instaud.io/3Wu9
umm no everything is massively out of time now, genuinely sounds like a huge mess

its in triplets

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>instaud.io/3Wu9
sounds like a mess

clyp.it/dg0hvwyt
ey lads i need some thoughts on this chord progression

>clyp.it/dg0hvwyt
everything is good except i dont like the first chord, especially 3 times in a row

well it's a chord progression. The voice leading doesn't sound offensive, but without a melody or further arranging there is no way to say whether it's good or bad

the voice leading really doesn't matter here because it all gets converted into synths later on

>the voice leading really doesn't matter here because it all gets converted into synths later on
why doesn't the voice leading matter then? Synth leads or pads need even more thorough voiceleading than a piano. Anyway, the way it is right now is good and you shouldn't change it

these chords are more like a reference of direction rather than a frame for putting sounds on it

well I don't get your work approach then. A chord progression deprived from its voice leading is pointless and has nothing to do with music. Your chord progression can be genius or it can be complete shit, it hasn't any value in itself.

Justice bro pls respond, how do you have feel about early 90s rave sounds? Anyway to contact you to chat?

>especially 3 times in a row
it's actually 4 times in a row

> A chord progression deprived from its voice leading is pointless and has nothing to do with music. Your chord progression can be genius or it can be complete shit, it hasn't any value in itself.
where'd you get this heresy from?

instaud.io/3WvA
okay its fixed now

What he said is true though? Unless I'm misunderstanding..
The chords will change how they feel depending on what the melody is doing, for sure.

much better

he posted his discord somewhere, might be this thread or the last one, either way you can find it

I actually WANT some asshole responses what the fuck
are you going soft on me /prod/??? BE MEAN TO ME

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Some troll guy posted this a while back and today for some reason I really wanted to hear it and had to sift through my watch history to find it... I just searched for the word Objekt (it was the objekt troll guy) and I've been playing it all day today
youtube.com/watch?v=WflrnZ3WU3Y

Can someone point me to more stuff that sounds like this? The recommended section is failing me and so is looking for 'dub techno' in general... they are nice but not exactly like this

(im not big on techno so someone that knows it better don't shout at me)

it just sounds like maceo plex type shit imo, and the artists around that

i was the guy that said about the drums yesterday, after a re listen i actually don't mind them so low desu, i actually don't think you could do anything else to the track that wouldn't ruin it honestly. (idk about the mix cause i am listening on my phone rn)

ur so bad my mom cried because of u not my homework

I've been into dub techno in the past...this pretty much just sounds like dub techno to me?

Check out the Bakery studio on youtube

yeah but it doesn't sound like the classic dub techno I find recommended like deepchord or basic channel

>i actually don't think you could do anything else to the track that wouldn't ruin it
FFFFFUUUUCK

well *mix wise* i know it sounds fine on most systems but I was really looking for somebody else to tell me that the bass isn't nearly as pristine as it should be

... like i was going for a jenny death overcrowded mix but i wanted certain aspects to be a bit clearer :S
thanks tho

I lol'd out loud but a more relevant and specific insult would be helpful :^)

>deepchord
my fuckin shit

I like Marko Furstenberg as well- found out about searching through an archived sharethread so it's probably still up

what's the effect in pop music where the vocals are reversed for like a second and full fo heavy reverb???

really need to know and if anyone knows any examples send me

like just before the vocal comes in? there are like 10000 youtube videos on it, if thats what you mean ofc

>Marko
nice - youtube.com/watch?v=LweiEMGdI9A


another one i like - youtube.com/watch?v=iQP7z_FN2us

Sorry bakery studio is nothing like dub techno its totally just nice dubs.

Not really sure what to recommend for dub techno as there is so much out there...rhythm and sound, deep chord, rohs records stuff, id probably just start with rhythm and sound and follow recommendations from there till you find stuff you like

you tried going on spotify and seeing what the related artists are to that person?

>and full fo heavy reverb
>fo

based

48 posters, /prod/ confirmed dead rip

yeah, whats it called ?

youtube.com/watch?v=es-1sCnkGBk
youtube.com/watch?v=02FidrUw6Z8
youtube.com/watch?v=D5-vN-ibn0M
youtube.com/watch?v=hf-g49CNeks
youtube.com/watch?v=5P8KohiciSc
youtube.com/watch?v=8OqYulY_SVs
youtube.com/watch?v=cC9_I5-oWEo
youtube.com/watch?v=ocbrUpxu4Hc

literally take your pick

too much effort man

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discord/irc stole everyone worthwhile

Repurposed meme.

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I've never listened to it and know almost nothing about it.

I added in some mid range at a guy's suggestion, but I think the problem is with the arpeggios. It doesn't have enough mid-range when it comes in. Justice would use plain distorted Juno chords or distorted walls of sound. I'll work on making the sample flow into a full song and get rid of the arpeggio and the filter section.

instaud.io/3Wx5

did you enjoy the memes

Yeah, hilarious. Especially

wasnt me who responded, thank you

bump

post link

I like this one, thanks

new thread?

no

We're at 287 as I'm typing this.
The last bump is at 310 or 311, so there's still a bit of time (especially since this is a kinda slow thread, so we mightlast a few more hours even), and some more time between that and the moment it gets archived.
No need for a new thread yet.

lol only the worst pieces of shit join those private convos. Probably full if trannies and other mental spastics that love drama.

bricky instaud.io/3Wyc

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instaud.io/3Wy4

PLease give me your harshest opinions on this I need to know please

The sub bass is coming through more than the synth bass should

I think it's mixed a lot better now but I liked the simpler, chiller structure you had going in instaud.io/3W6G instead. Mostly talking about the drums. Especially that weird glitch breakdown at 0:17

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>>PLease give me your harshest opinions on this I need to know please
It's not even worth insulting.

is that all made by you?

thoughts on this tune?

instaud.io/3WyI

cute as fuck

>discord
Di...
>irc
This could be based; does it really exist? Just looking for yes/no. I have no intention of going there or knowing what it is.

youtu.be/0eEq9fzvtAo

God, I wish I came up with this first.

I like this one a lot, but I think the stereo separation is a bit much. I'd think it'd sound better if it were more in your face you know?

It sounds very white noise heavy. Not sure if that's because of the distortion or the samples, or a combination. It is quite grating and fatiguing imo. As soon as the distorted maximized vocal sample big in the middle dropped out, it was a relief.
Also, this noisy distorted mid/high range stuff is the loudest part of the tune, totally overshadowing the very quiet bass and low end imo.
You have created a lot of interesting little call and response type layered sounds (like the disco-ish chopped samples), which is great, but they are very much lost in a soup of noise, and you would be hard pressed to follow any one of them throughout the mix. It may be worthwhile to do be more conservative and do more subtractive eq to prepare your sounds for this level of distortion. And to make sure that the kick and bass-line are not ever overshadowed as they are here.

I made the entire beat including playing the guitar. My friend is the one rapping though.

thanks bingbing

instaud.io/3Wzr

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is the singing in tune?
vocaroo.com/i/s1biuF46CGLd

Yeah that's better. It sounds kinda muffled on the high end, try and eq some clarity too. This is something I'd listen to in my own time if I found it in an album.

thanks user - you're nice

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you got any music in this thread I can check out?

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Whenever we get experimental stuff I always enjoy it and it's refreshing in comparison of most of the shit ITT.

clyp.it/3p1qnczn?token=e5dc02ddf7cddfd0d687d0bd2043c2c8
clyp.it/332yagvc?token=055ffbf18656d86459849950572d76dd
instaud.io/3Ac3

I dig it! First one had some especially cool moments near the end - The last track is probably my favorite

Can't understand shit from reading my manual or reading other sources, I always need to watch a video on something to really understand it, am I a brainlet?

Thanks, last one I had JK Flesh in mind while making it.

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The only thing with distortion is the synth. Have you heard Justice before? Like, Newjack?

It's no joking matter brother, I'm trying to read on audio effects and my brain can't really process much information, then I look up words that I don't understand and I don't understand those words either.

Checked out Newjack, guess its just not for me. Not a fan of the noise it sounds like they had hearing loss when they made it.

Kek. Something you might be able to help me with is... on that record, Cross by Justice, almost every element of the music has a warm analog-sounding bass-y low end on it (in the high quality versions at least). Do you know how that's done?

My guess is they just leave the bass end on individual sounds but have very few overlapping sounds to prevent mud. I tend to over-subtractive EQ and I've found that keeping a bit of bass on parts generates the warmth of that album. I shouldn't have listened to the guy that said to filter all low end. The only thing Justice does differently I think compared to most EDM is not pump up the bass on the master.

I have a headache.

new bread

spamming so this one gets archived

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321 posts wtf how the fuck does their system work it seems so inconsistent to how many posts before its archived

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