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>making track >sounds muddy and flat >start EQing >hey adding more top end makes it stand out more >EQ the fuck out of everything >everything's got top end now >somehow it sounds even worse than before though there is some more clarity And then I removed most of the EQs, all of the high and low cuts, and fixed it by tweaking the dynamics instead and now it sounds way fuller and punchier. Lesson learned. EQ should be used sparingly.
Mason Young
you can do more than just EQ to make things stand out better, i personally like using saturation
Mason Richardson
Yeah, cutting frequencies removes harmonic content which makes it sound bad rather quickly. Now I have a tape dynamics plugin on all tracks so I can play with the dynamics and that works way better. Also glues it together nicely. Note that I don't actually know what I'm doing. Only just now trained my ear to pay close attention to dynamics.
Matthew Williams
>sounds muddy and flat You should have stopped here and make a better recording. Fucking nothing can fix a bad take
Kayden Ward
love
Caleb Ramirez
It's just softsynths, no recordings.
Bentley Barnes
same thing applies make your synths sound not muddy and flat if you want something that doesn't sound muddy and flat
Brayden Campbell
please stop giving stupid advice.
Henry Lopez
>EQ should be used sparingly. gotcha
Daniel Cruz
>fix your sounddesign problems in the sounddesign instead of throwing tape saturation plugins around when mixing how is that bad advice
Hey /prod/, I need help with vocal recording. My vocals sound too loud no matter how quiet they are, they just sound off no matter what I do. It sounds perfect when I'm recording it in monitoring mode and can hear myself in the headphones, but when I put it over the song, it sounds off for some reason? Can you guys help me out here? Someone told me my mic gain was too high, but I turned it down and was unable to find a sweet spot where I still get the sharpness of gain and not be too loud or quiet so I just put it back to max gain. Anything lower than max gain doesn't "resonate" enough for my ear to enjoy it, what am I doing wrong?
shiet, did sadowick really fuck up this badly or is there something else going on? I didn't see his (or this) vid, but it may have something to do with the daw sample rate they are running or something?
Ayden Russell
when mr. u-he himself steps in and tell you you're wrong, there really isn't much room to argue.
I don't think there are any killer samples like Newjack or Phantom left in the funk/disco/soul catalogue. I mean, Justice sampled 400 albums for Cross and most assuredly listened to hundreds more, and The Brothers Johnson and Tenebrae samples were the best of the bunch.
I sampled The Jackson 5 for this, so I went the easy route without looking for obscure stuff after listening to obscure stuff for days, and I think what makes it annoying is that they sing out of tune in parts. Slightly altering the pitch doesn't help.
I need to take a shower and think. I'm thinking about just switching to a warm arena rock sound that's less sample-based.
Nah, it sucks. It doesn't fit with any idea I have to make it into a song. The thing about Justice's Cross album is that almost every song has a gimmick. Genesis uses the wubs and filter cutoff tricks. Newjack uses a guitar input Jack sample or something similar to create a gate-y robot blues-rock sound. Phantom has the cool sample and strings. DANCE uses a children's choir. Stress is basically the most stressful EDM song ever because of excellent string samples.
My point is that to make an album like Cross, you really have to have a vision of a concept album and write it so that each song extends over several minutes and never gets boring or repetitive like Daft Punk, for example. Justice's music is always changing. To make an album like Cross, you really have to have the best of the best funk/disco/souls samples, and I just don't think there are any good ones left. That's why Justi e moved to arena rock. They listened to shitloads of albums and found Newjack, Stress, and Phantom - the absolute best. Then they left the sampling almost completely alone and made AVD.
Angel Rodriguez
Or maybe they're just tired of the painstaking work they had to do to research and sample all those records, since they're already super successful and don't need something insane like Cross anymore. If I were in their situation I wouldn't have the willpower to do a monumental task like that other than the first time to make it big. After that it's unnecessary, so they might as well have fun with their music instead of torturing themselves sampling sub-second snippets from hundreds of songs.
People have been sampling for decades before Cross, and I'm sure people were saying shit like "sampling is dead, all the good samples have been used now" way before Justice even started to make music.
The only samples that have been depleted are those from famous songs (and even those can be manipulated in an infinite number of ways, so they're still very samplable in original ways). There's still a practically infinite number of obscure records ready to be sampled, but obviously you won't find those on music making and sampling forums (it would be like looking for a billion dollar idea online, which is retarded because anyone who actually has it isn't going to share it).
It's time to actually go visit record stores, yard sales, etc.
Camden Rogers
Anybody?
Jacob Torres
jesus fucking christ you are so annoying that's a good sample and you just suck at sampling and you fucked the groove up
i can hear exactly how this song should be and it's pissing me off
Julian Edwards
>sampling the Jackson 5 Do you have a death wish?
Michael Robinson
The thing they did, and which would make the process easier is, first of all, they had two people, which increases determination for both involved - simply, it makes it more fun. Secondly, they wrote the music on guitar and piano and then transferred it to a Juno 106 - that's why I'm using the Tal U-Uno plugin, which is a Juno 60 emulation I believe - it sounds really similar to the Genesis bass synth. I have my guitar nearby too. So again, they wrote the music together and agreed when something sounded good - and THEN once the music was written for the entirety of the album, or nearly completely written, they looked for samples, and during that sample scouring they discovered Newjack, Stress and Phantom.
>clyp.it/v2ws20ex sounds fine to me? i mean its a bit loud but like not awful?
Brayden Flores
It might be that I'm slightly off beat but somethings sounds off to me lol
Parker Martinez
Independence, Kansas
Evan James
gonna have a see what i can do with it also, might take a few days tho so keep ur eyes on
Luke Ward
you definitely need to fix the timing issues, and the vocals don't sit in the mix brilliantly, but i was talking about the volume specifically, which isn't terrible
James Taylor
I'll see if there's someone in my circle who knows anyone. Give me a minute.
I downloaded your preview the other night and tried to work on it but it was sidelined by my own stuff. Funny enough I have the same approach as justice but I’m solo and make more aggressive dance music and had no clue what those guys use a creative process. I’ll go back to it tonight and maybe you’ll be into the direction I take.
Connor Cooper
>I have the same approach as justice but I’m solo and make more aggressive dance music Sounds cool. Would you post something please?
>if you could instantly master one genre of music you never took the time to master which genre would that be? >what's that ADD music that's like super complex? Noisa and Flume... >if I could have one thing downloaded into my brain it would be all that stuff... like how that, occurs... >like that could be just applied to everything else, really.
Please understand the period he comes from, I'm near his age and we both grew up on mid 90s/early 2000s trance. There's a different focus in songwriting there and journey through the song over the course of 6 to 9 minutes was the appeal, the progression of the mood while maintaining a steady beat to pop e tabs to. Sound design was not yet the final frontier and slowly evolving supersaw leads were the standard. Think of it as classic rock vs modern math metal.
Adrian Wood
>>drums could probably do with hitting through the mix a bit better that was a creative decision but i was still on the fence about that so thanks for bringing it up, i'll probably clear out some room for them probably now :p
I guess, but it's weird to hear those mentioned as "super complex ADD music" (or even just mentioning Flume and Noisia together like they're in the same tier, let alone the same genre) when IDM stuff like Autechre and Squarepusher (which are very old as well) is so much more ADD and complex that it makes Noisia and Flume sound like nursery rhymes.
I understand not listening to him, but choosing someone like Flume (shortly after he said he doesn't listen to him, so he just picked him as someone he thinks makes super complex music) is just strange.
I mean, the guy uses Max and Reaktor, surely he knows about the more complex parts of the IDM scene, no?
Nathan Williams
Please no. I'm still dealing with the ED from all the shit we've written yesterday. My PornMegaLoad subscription expires in a couple of days and I'd like to be able to use it at least once before then.
Logan Cooper
listen i just can't stop thinking about all the times we have shared, I it pains me to be without you. please be my little spoon
Jaxon Taylor
>watching porn >paying for porn get it together
Ryder Phillips
All the women where I live are disgustingly skinny, so I need my daily dose of fat bitches to get me going y'kno... If I have to pay to jerk off to women who aren't some creepy skeleton with only two boobs, then so be it goddamn it.
Anthony Nelson
>All the women where I live are disgustingly skinny where do you live?
Dominic Ortiz
i live in your momma uterus
Connor Morris
Independence, Kansas
Lincoln Jones
I live in south texas and its like everyone is fat down here its probably because of all the mexicans
Easton Jackson
my foreskin has the power to make a hit
Andrew Diaz
>my foreskin has the power to take a hit* Sorry, Autocorrect.
Sorry, I asked my uncle (the leader) and that's what he responded verbatim: >you didn't tell anybody about our secret, right kiddo? >good boy! >sorry, were you saying something?
Isaac Miller
god damn, such a gamer moment >does fortnite dance
>cries
Justin Long
Ok but seriously, we've been shitpostin way too much. I don't want to ruin the thread like last year so I'm gonna stop posting completely now. I'll always remember you
Easton Collins
/prod/ has been dead for years so you two talking shit hardly matters
lads when are we gonna start a /prod/ boyband/collaborative project
Juan Collins
i would unironically give it a shot if there were like minded autists who weren't complete faggots and didn't suck
never gonna happen fr tho m8. pretty sure it's been done before and it's a complete failure, nobody gave a shit except for the people in it (and the music obviously wasn't great)
Juan Perez
Just wanna play a minimoog with a delay pedal
Carson Harris
i know its not the same but the free minimoog plug ins are pretty good
Nicholas Ward
bump
Bentley Lee
>instaud.io/3WfS This tune goes really well with this webm. Do those guys have soap on their shoes or are they just really drunk?
i have not been getting the negative feedback i require for the last couple songs i posted fuck you guys
Jacob Evans
I'm trying to record with my Presonus through jack inputs instrument. But i get this issue where i can either listen to direct input which has no latency ,but remove all the playback which mute the other track i'm recording over. OR i can hear it on playback but with a noticable latency from my playing which fuck up my playing while recording. The best is that i could hear the playback and the direct input without the instruments on the playback with the latency.
>gainstaging >relative leves in mono >panning >mix into a Master Buss chain >SUBTRACTIVE EQ FIRST (start with shelving highs and lows, then do mids) >cooooompress >EQ again, boost where needed. (PS, secret here is to use only the best eq's you have to boost) >redo levels as needed >automation, bitch >verbs, delays, etc. Compress them & eq them too >analog / coloring plugs on channels & busses as needed >finish with mastering plugs
do these samples sound dumb as fuck or nah? I think the track could work without them as well instaud.io/3Wm5
Jaxson Richardson
Anyway, I tried the Nightshine compressor, which is an emulator of the Alesis 3630 as someone suggested, and I don't know if I got closer to the Cross sound or not. I don't know how to mix well.
It'd be fun to look together with another person on Discord, sharing links to cool samples, and sharing Ableton project files where we write the music in midi.
They don't sound dumb. They sound boring to me, but I guess I like a different style
Jace Long
why do so many of the bad tracks posted here sound like circus music? is circus music the lowest standard of music?
Jacob Rodriguez
Why don't you have a song we can laugh at? It's probably low effort garbage
Andrew Ross
NOT HIM BUT LAUGH AT MY TRACK AND CRITIQUE
Jackson Peterson
So I EQ'd things to the best of my ability and tried to make it about the same loudness as Newjack from Cross. I had to remove a whole lot of bottom end from the kick to better match Justice
This will be important because I'm just going to make every song in one project file like an album. I'll probably scrap this one, but it's good practice and I can reuse the master setup.
Aaron Ross
crap that is so loud jesus christ i think i am deaf now thank you for ruining my career i am an hero zzzzzzzzz
Noah Roberts
you do you
Aaron Clark
very cool man. that sample sounds like a guy doing that thing where you move ur finger up and down on ur lips
Anthony Morris
That's quieter than the last one. It's about the same volume as Cross. That is a loud album.
Tyler Hughes
what daw are you using? do you have loads of effects going on?
my focusrite does this when i have loads of effects going on, so i have to record without then put them on after
Henry Nguyen
i don't know it if helped or not, i would say its more listenable. the biggest problem i think is that there is no low end in the sample, and there is no layer to support it so it ends up sounding really weak. it also seems kinda low quality.
that being said, cross is probably my favorite album, and in my younger days, it used to be a much bigger influence on me, though not to such an autistic degree (for instance this :clyp.it/g4alznxq ). i'll have to take a crack at it now that i'm not as shitty as i was.
that lil anecdote about writing the music before searching for a good sample is actually high iq and i will add that to my bag of tricks
personally i have pivoted into cartoony future house shit clyp.it/3oxyspvj
Cameron Barnes
>I'm just going to make every song in one project file like an album >reuse the master setup just stop fucking posting what the fuck
I would rather have Demarcus come back as a regular visible poster than have to listen to more about how all the good samples are gone and how you want to completely rip off somebody else's sound but worse
Hunter Hall
Drop the sample, with all your previews it sounds like you are struggling to make it work way too hard. The high end is a mess with it and holds your mix down. Your other option is to chop the vocal out as much as possible on the vowel sounds. Also stop slamming your drums.
Colton Peterson
where did all the samples go?!
Jason James
dj shadow
Evan James
Thanks for helping me out. I removed the bitcrush but kept erosion, and added lowmend to the sample. The thing about the Cross album is that if you listen to it again, it has almost no real low end, but a type of analog warmth bass-y low end on every sound in the music. I'm not sure how to recreate it. Thanks again.
listen justice fucking suck please stop trying to emulate them and make something original, its way more interesting
Samuel Gutierrez
take it back
Bentley Lee
i will never take it back, they were boring then and are boring now
Luke Lopez
What, like the trap stuff always posted here?
Kek. Cross is the most listenable EDM album ever. It's more a concept album than EDM, but that's why it's so great.
Joshua Long
i guess i prefer sebastian now anyway
this is better. try fucking with parallel processing. the other dude is right though the high end does make it difficult
Adrian Reyes
And personally, also, I think Cross was mostly created by Mr. Oizo and Sebastian. Justice just wrote the music and picked the samples. The album would have sounded like a trainwreck without them. There's no way they would have achieved that sound without help in such a short time. So, my point is that it's Mr. Oizo's and Sebastian's album just as much as it is Justice's.
Brayden White
no trap is equally as boring.
cross is boring and all french artists are unironically boring
Zachary Hernandez
your music is probably boring and you are projecting. hate to see it.
that does explain why all their other albums are shit, and their music before that was way less clean
Nicholas Ross
french artists should stay in the early 2000's where they belong
>I think Cross was mostly created by Mr. Oizo and Sebastian. Evidence of this?
Angel Edwards
There's no way they went from We Are Your Friends using a basic sampler to creating the simultaneously warmest, yet blazing high end EDM album ever made. There's no way they figured out vocal freezes or the use of gates without Sebastian's or Mr. Oizo's help. You can believe what you want, but it's almost certain they had help with the mixing and effects to make each element of each song stand out.
Personally, I think my song is starting to sou d warm because I'm adding back in some bass to parts that I had previously filtered out.
Justice Cross album music is certainly possible to make - now I know - but every single thing has to be perfect. I just need better samples.
Christian Davis
>I just need better samples. dude i'm sorry but if you really think that's what's holding you back you're delusional and (meme alert) never gonna make it, and that's looking past ripping off somebody else's sound
Xavier Turner
You sound jealous. I've said plenty of times that I'm open to a music partner. Every single other poster here sounds like a rip-off of every other guy here.
Landon Williams
how long did it take you to copy their sound
Gabriel Jones
i'm not playing that game m8 most posters are ripoffs and most musicians want to be ripoffs, you get singled out because you're especially obsessed with being a ripoff lol
Nathan Sanchez
I've been trying to get their sound since right around the time Daft Punk's RAM came out, shortly thereafter. I quit making music after about a year of trying, and came back off and on, making remixes here and there until about a month ago ( I won a remix contest called A Band Called Quinn - Forget About It where I went by the group name Artifice, you can look it up - it sucked), and everything clicked yesterday and today. I decided to try Nightshine again. I've listened to Cross so much that I have an ear to what sounds like that album and what doesn't. It's my favorite album of all time. I still remember when I was listening to DP's Discovery and researching them until I came across someone mentioning Justice, so I decided to check them out, and they just blew me away.
The main trick to Justice's sound is that there are very few elements going on at once, but it sounds like there are. Cross's music is always going somewhere - lots of musical transitions.
Julian Wilson
I want to sound like them because Cross is the best sounding EDM album ever made. Who wouldn't want to sound like them?
For instance, I know exactly what their kick sounds like, and it has very little low end but a nice mid-range punch, especially on Genesis. The drums aren't especially difficult to do, but everyone online pumps them up to be so. You just take a heavy low-end kick (mine might be acoustic - I can't remember) and remove some of the low end, say 11db using a multiband compressor, and it gives you the DMX sound without the ugly tail.
Luke Torres
One thing they do a lot is add a slap back reverb or sub to their kick. I don't know how to do that properly. Nightshine is a subtle but integral part of the sound which I ignored. Thanks to the guy who suggested it again
Jace Parker
to be fair it is a great album
Daniel Bell
I'm using Kick Thud Mix kick in Ableton
Leo Bennett
Also, lots of automation everywhere. Some snares have gated reverb, some snares are increased in volume. Some random snares or tails of snares like they always throw in. Complete attention to detail. You have to write a song on a guitar, throw the chords and melody onto a Juno 60 Tal Uno emulation VST, and then envision a dance album like a baroque neoclassical metal album. Absolute complete attention to detail to make it sound alive rather than sterile like most EDM.
Xavier Ortiz
jesus
Oliver Torres
I think the Bogdanoffs ghost produced †
Oliver Moore
Also I can't make fun of this guy, I went borderline psycho trying to emulate this sound
Thomas White
Go for it, I just sampled some of the footage at the RNC for my latest track. it's a sign.
Jack Brooks
I like reading your posts bro. Interesting insight into stuff I've rarely listened to and never made. That said I disagree with you about their progression being drastic, its consistent and I think you're not being as objective because of your appreciation of their sound. I'm going to listen to their first album some more then give you my feedback.
Dylan Bell
Not that guy but it's clear that their ghost producer died or fell out with them after the first album, their stuff afterwards sounds all pokey and pinched. Those guys are straight up milli vanilli, I don't agree that it's Sebastian or Oizo though.
Hudson Williams
They started releasing songs from that album in 2004/2005... You really think they never made music before that either? They had their first release in 03 so assume they each made music for at least 2 years before that. In response to their sound changing I wouldn't be able to comment yet but the most recent album from 2018 on spotify was pretttty good.
Mason Cook
Squarepusher and Ae are far from ADD music friend. In fact you need large amounts of patience to get through their stuff esp Autechre
Jayden Sanders
There's demos of the cross songs online and they have a pinched uneven sound that shows no mixing knowledge.
Cross sounds like they commissioned a laboratory to engineer those demos. Definitely was not done on a laptop with cheap speakers like they claim.
Luis Adams
I guess it is possible that they did it alone, but they most assuredly got mixing tips from someone at Ed Banger. There weren't tutorials back then. Compare We Are Your Friends to the demo of Let There Be Light. You can hear a gradual improvement of their sound. It's not hard to do if you know not to pump up the bass too much, and to master with an Alesis 3630 or Nightshine. The Nightshine adds sidechain without actual sidechain.
Aaron Gonzalez
fuck cross posters
Ryan Sanchez
I'm using the Dance Master preset with the default 1 and 2 brought down to near 0 with 3 brought down at 255. A fourth adding just a little bit of brightness to the top end. Don't pump up the low end if you want Justice's sound. Cross is mixed pretty bright.
Nolan Diaz
>some snares are increased in volume. Some random snares or tails of snares like they always throw in
this is day one shit what the fuck, your posts are straight embarrassing and spammy, fuck off
James Lopez
ether this justice fanboy is a troll or has too much autism
Adam Gomez
Fuck you're right. For some reason my brain thought of ADD as what is actually OCD. My bad.
Chase Stewart
honestly based on what he's said it really just sounds like some guy who's been "into" music/production and never dived in for real, maintained/built up this one album to be the peak of artistic achievement, and then due to a combination ignorance and a small scope of music/production (i.e not understanding small details are not specific to justice and that common place things aren't crazy) and an assumption that since he's been doing this for 7~ years that he can't be *that* terrible (despite never having commited serious time), he's come to the conclusion that there are "secrets" and factors like silver bullet samples that would get him where he wants to be.
... i mean it sucks but i don't give a fuck, he's just another sammy chasing his tail. at least the other faggots have the courtesy not to spam their bullshit... well mostly
Asher Watson
Cross is called the most important EDM album of the 21st century with lots of producers chasing that sound. Don't act self-righteous. Most of the stuff I hear posted here is amateur and a lot of guys are obsessed with paid magic plugins.
Justice came along and many people said that they were what Daft Punk should have sounded like. Don't downplay the importance of that album just to put me down.
Thomas Morgan
>Cross is called the most important EDM album of the 21st century regardless of whether that's true or not i don't think you understood what i'm getting at, and other posters have nothing to do with it
don't think of the sampling and mixing techniques in the context of the edm world, think in terms of all music.
Thomas Robinson
I simply do not care.
Gavin Rogers
okay that has to be another user lmao
Dominic Turner
You're trying to teach me something I don't care about. Three weeks ago I didn't know how Tom properly mix, and now I've got a pretty good sound. Justice's sound is about a lot of small things put together. It's intricate. You're trying to explain to me there's a bigger picture and that I need to learn more in order to downplay my success so you can present yourself as a mentor or to place yourself in a higher position. I don't care.
Joseph Torres
hi, sorry for being new, i want to separate a voice narration from the background music (mostly piano) in a track. had a few tries with the voice cancellation option inaudacity and I can't get it right, is there any other program that will do it easier?
Brayden Wood
forgot to add the most important part of the post: any general tips or pointers on how to cancel voice in audio tracks would be appreciated
Christopher Phillips
i think izotope RX is probably your best bet for that, its expensive but worth it.
(or you could steal it who am i to care)
but if the vocals are really blatant you're gonna struggle
Aiden Gutierrez
no you just shit up these threads trying to chase a sound but aren't willing to actually put in the time and patience to learn, you first started off crying because there are no good samples left, which is the most retarded thing i've ever heard, and now you're on about a fucking mix. who fucking cares what they did? how's about getting it right for YOUR song, what they do to their's isn't magically going to make your song any better.
Justin Cruz
Post your music
Landon James
I'm getting off and going to sleep. I won't see anything if you post. I have a headache.
Carter Gutierrez
i don't need justification because i don't care how terrible my music sounds, but i don't shit up threads crying about has been french producers from the early 2000's
>5minutes long when it doesn't need to be >still goes nowhere >drums don't change at all
dude, if i were you, i'd add your fav trap beat to whatever DAW you are using, and completely just follow exactly the arrangement they've done, drums and everything.
Or you can try and make your own. Use a bitcrusher on your drume and then eq appropriately.
Grayson Nelson
who /renoise/ here switching over after 5 years of ableton live (trying to get a linux setup) pretty impressed so far, probably the best value for money DAW i've ever seen
Hudson Cruz
is it better value over reaper that is $60? i'd like to try renoise just because it can be used on linux, im a strong ableton user, how does it feel moving over?
Jaxson Brown
i've been using it for 2 days and i'm already making music. there's nothing "missing". actually so far i've been finding features that ableton DOESN'T have. it's definitely a "power user" DAW, so it fits right in with the linux ecosystem. i can imagine how powerful and productive it can be when you learn all the shortcuts and become familiar with the tracker style. try it out, the demo is extremely permissive.
Adam Hughes
thanks ill give it a go
Jaxson Smith
fuck man it looks so complicated, please tell me it gets easier to understand
Michael Cook
anyone wanna buy my reason 10 licence for £150, bought it on a whim now fully regret it
Connor Hughes
this sounded like ass from my phone but not so much from my monitors it lacks a bit on the mid range compared to justice and obviously you need to work on the arrangement
Zachary Ortiz
what specifically is complicated about it? the only difference between renoise and traditional DAWs is the tracker vs piano roll. all i did was read the manual that comes with the download and i'm starting to get comfortable. this guys has a pretty good tutorial series. youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOMuI-j1vRxRtJsLU4Ojbz257PtuUU-k4
Angel Davis
Stop working in a shitty 400 euro a month job maybe?
Julian Parker
When I record the gusic it sounds really forced. How do I remedy this?
No it sounds pretty good if you like Valhalla reverbs
Sounds reverbie
Chase Sanchez
would still like to hear some samples, but sure i love valhalla shit, cool
Nathan Thomas
Might try and record something through it later, but you’d probably be better off watching divkids YouTube video
Jackson Parker
Valid solution to gusic issues.
Grayson Williams
*thumbs up
Andrew Rodriguez
That’s a lot of hp
Jack Anderson
I guess it is if you are worried about hp. All mine is studio setup so I’m not bothered about low hp modules. It’s about the same size as a guitar pedal but it fits in with my euro stuff and a lot smaller than any rack effects unit so I don’t mind
yeah you did someone said "sounds cool" don't lie like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i will listen now
Jack Lee
>instaud.io/3W6G drums are just god awful samples, get better ones/mix them way better (just get better ones)
honestly the rest is okay you just need to arrange and add more stuff
Kayden Myers
Alright, here you go. I saved this template for when the Narutoposter (from the Guy vs Kakashi post he made for Demarcus) showed up, but he seems to have disappeared so here you go. Will post a couple more as I make them.
clyp.it/dg0hvwyt ey lads i need some thoughts on this chord progression
Lucas Taylor
>clyp.it/dg0hvwyt everything is good except i dont like the first chord, especially 3 times in a row
Bentley Brown
well it's a chord progression. The voice leading doesn't sound offensive, but without a melody or further arranging there is no way to say whether it's good or bad
Hudson Cooper
the voice leading really doesn't matter here because it all gets converted into synths later on
William Brown
>the voice leading really doesn't matter here because it all gets converted into synths later on why doesn't the voice leading matter then? Synth leads or pads need even more thorough voiceleading than a piano. Anyway, the way it is right now is good and you shouldn't change it
Anthony Stewart
these chords are more like a reference of direction rather than a frame for putting sounds on it
Asher King
well I don't get your work approach then. A chord progression deprived from its voice leading is pointless and has nothing to do with music. Your chord progression can be genius or it can be complete shit, it hasn't any value in itself.
Lincoln Ramirez
Justice bro pls respond, how do you have feel about early 90s rave sounds? Anyway to contact you to chat?
Dylan Fisher
>especially 3 times in a row it's actually 4 times in a row
John Cruz
> A chord progression deprived from its voice leading is pointless and has nothing to do with music. Your chord progression can be genius or it can be complete shit, it hasn't any value in itself. where'd you get this heresy from?
Some troll guy posted this a while back and today for some reason I really wanted to hear it and had to sift through my watch history to find it... I just searched for the word Objekt (it was the objekt troll guy) and I've been playing it all day today youtube.com/watch?v=WflrnZ3WU3Y
Can someone point me to more stuff that sounds like this? The recommended section is failing me and so is looking for 'dub techno' in general... they are nice but not exactly like this
Gavin Gonzalez
(im not big on techno so someone that knows it better don't shout at me)
it just sounds like maceo plex type shit imo, and the artists around that
Lincoln Powell
i was the guy that said about the drums yesterday, after a re listen i actually don't mind them so low desu, i actually don't think you could do anything else to the track that wouldn't ruin it honestly. (idk about the mix cause i am listening on my phone rn)
William Foster
ur so bad my mom cried because of u not my homework
Jaxson Ward
I've been into dub techno in the past...this pretty much just sounds like dub techno to me?
Check out the Bakery studio on youtube
Ayden Lee
yeah but it doesn't sound like the classic dub techno I find recommended like deepchord or basic channel
Adrian Fisher
>i actually don't think you could do anything else to the track that wouldn't ruin it FFFFFUUUUCK
well *mix wise* i know it sounds fine on most systems but I was really looking for somebody else to tell me that the bass isn't nearly as pristine as it should be
... like i was going for a jenny death overcrowded mix but i wanted certain aspects to be a bit clearer :S thanks tho
I lol'd out loud but a more relevant and specific insult would be helpful :^)
>deepchord my fuckin shit
I like Marko Furstenberg as well- found out about searching through an archived sharethread so it's probably still up
Zachary Reed
what's the effect in pop music where the vocals are reversed for like a second and full fo heavy reverb???
really need to know and if anyone knows any examples send me
Robert Campbell
like just before the vocal comes in? there are like 10000 youtube videos on it, if thats what you mean ofc
Sorry bakery studio is nothing like dub techno its totally just nice dubs.
Not really sure what to recommend for dub techno as there is so much out there...rhythm and sound, deep chord, rohs records stuff, id probably just start with rhythm and sound and follow recommendations from there till you find stuff you like
Samuel Murphy
you tried going on spotify and seeing what the related artists are to that person?
I've never listened to it and know almost nothing about it.
I added in some mid range at a guy's suggestion, but I think the problem is with the arpeggios. It doesn't have enough mid-range when it comes in. Justice would use plain distorted Juno chords or distorted walls of sound. I'll work on making the sample flow into a full song and get rid of the arpeggio and the filter section.
We're at 287 as I'm typing this. The last bump is at 310 or 311, so there's still a bit of time (especially since this is a kinda slow thread, so we mightlast a few more hours even), and some more time between that and the moment it gets archived. No need for a new thread yet.
Jonathan Watson
lol only the worst pieces of shit join those private convos. Probably full if trannies and other mental spastics that love drama.
PLease give me your harshest opinions on this I need to know please
The sub bass is coming through more than the synth bass should
I think it's mixed a lot better now but I liked the simpler, chiller structure you had going in instaud.io/3W6G instead. Mostly talking about the drums. Especially that weird glitch breakdown at 0:17
I like this one a lot, but I think the stereo separation is a bit much. I'd think it'd sound better if it were more in your face you know?
Brandon Brown
It sounds very white noise heavy. Not sure if that's because of the distortion or the samples, or a combination. It is quite grating and fatiguing imo. As soon as the distorted maximized vocal sample big in the middle dropped out, it was a relief. Also, this noisy distorted mid/high range stuff is the loudest part of the tune, totally overshadowing the very quiet bass and low end imo. You have created a lot of interesting little call and response type layered sounds (like the disco-ish chopped samples), which is great, but they are very much lost in a soup of noise, and you would be hard pressed to follow any one of them throughout the mix. It may be worthwhile to do be more conservative and do more subtractive eq to prepare your sounds for this level of distortion. And to make sure that the kick and bass-line are not ever overshadowed as they are here.
Jason Foster
I made the entire beat including playing the guitar. My friend is the one rapping though.
Yeah that's better. It sounds kinda muffled on the high end, try and eq some clarity too. This is something I'd listen to in my own time if I found it in an album.
I dig it! First one had some especially cool moments near the end - The last track is probably my favorite
Aaron Walker
Can't understand shit from reading my manual or reading other sources, I always need to watch a video on something to really understand it, am I a brainlet?
Oliver Smith
Thanks, last one I had JK Flesh in mind while making it.
The only thing with distortion is the synth. Have you heard Justice before? Like, Newjack?
Jordan Ramirez
It's no joking matter brother, I'm trying to read on audio effects and my brain can't really process much information, then I look up words that I don't understand and I don't understand those words either.
Jaxon Garcia
Checked out Newjack, guess its just not for me. Not a fan of the noise it sounds like they had hearing loss when they made it.
Joseph Cox
Kek. Something you might be able to help me with is... on that record, Cross by Justice, almost every element of the music has a warm analog-sounding bass-y low end on it (in the high quality versions at least). Do you know how that's done?
Camden Jenkins
My guess is they just leave the bass end on individual sounds but have very few overlapping sounds to prevent mud. I tend to over-subtractive EQ and I've found that keeping a bit of bass on parts generates the warmth of that album. I shouldn't have listened to the guy that said to filter all low end. The only thing Justice does differently I think compared to most EDM is not pump up the bass on the master.
I have a headache.
Adrian Taylor
new bread
Mason Nguyen
spamming so this one gets archived
Jacob Clark
...
Camden Smith
hey
Owen Garcia
321 posts wtf how the fuck does their system work it seems so inconsistent to how many posts before its archived