does anyone have any good spotify playlists? i like to put classical on while i study or do programming. preferably no singing but otherwise anything goes.
Brayden Taylor
any who will die soon
Kevin Hall
go to previous thread
Benjamin Hernandez
Ursula Oppens
Aiden Miller
what sets him apart from Kissin?
not the largest body of work but I'll give her a shot
If you mean his late period then start with the fifth sonata and the symphony 3, then go to the sonatas 6 and 7 and the poem of ecstasy, final end with the three last sonatas plus vers l llamame and prometheus. If you want to go beyond then you should checo out Nemtin's completion of Scriabin's Mysterium
I'm somewhat new to classical, seen several Kissin performances and he seemed near the top technically. I assumed once you get to that point in skill, there aren't vast differences when people perform the same piece. The fact that there are so many different responses mean I have a lot to listen to.
Nathan Watson
despite the stereotypes, classical music is not for autists
This is BY FAR the best version of Bach's bwv 1041. As anal as Gould by virtue of being a midi BUT with actual dynamics by virtue of not being made by Gould. Prove me wrong. You can't.
Hudson Cook
>MIDI >ever the best interpretation of anything >"as anal as Gould" being a good thing
So many retarded opinions in one post
William Thompson
>didn't even do the BARE MINIMUM of posting a version he think is superior
Utterly unassailable.
Wyatt Ramirez
>actually listening to the A minor violin concerto No thanks, WTC, Art of Fugue, Passions and English Suites tend to keep me out of trouble.
Is there any specialized place for downloading discs? I've been told there was one invitation-only DC++ channel more than 15 years ago, but I don't know which one or how to get inside. Rutracker has many discs, but some have no seeds. Demonoid is gone. Where do you Anons get your classical music?
I fucking hate facially expressive performers. I can tolerate singers to some extent, as opposed to pianists or violinists bobbing their heads while doing the cockmongler face, but still whenever they stare directly into the camera I get irrationally tingly and uncomfortable, and look away from the screen.
Aiden Thomas
Gentlemen, what is the correct timing for Brahm's Symphony #1? I was in library today and noticed that piece's first movement has up to 6 minutes differences in length which is absolutely ridiculous. How hard can it be to get that Allegro right?
There's the age old question about repeating the first movement or not.
Levi Edwards
No, I'm just autistic, hate all expressiveness and can't look at someone else in the eye at all, and for the same reason become more uncomfortable with females than males, so quit your condescension you neurotypical normalfag piece of shit
Joshua Reyes
Generally speaking you put tenor and bass in left hand and alto and soprano in the right. But yeah, generally pianists who aren't amateurs (and even then, good amateurs can still manage it) can read/play SATB scores. Most of it is simply reading the lines, which isn't too difficult even taking into account the tenor line being notated in treble clef (i.e. up and octave), but there's also an element of harmonic knowledge which allows the pianist to play without necessarily picking out all the notes.
Noah Hall
Am I the only one who find the piano to be a usually boring and feminine instrument?
Ian Williams
Hmm I'll look into this, thanks user.
Joshua Edwards
Am I too autistic if I disregard mega's and live off my local library for CD quality instead?
Jaxson Clark
Might want to read "Tempos and Proportions in Brahms."
Although overall Brahms was a pretty open composer and had no qualms insofar as intelligent interpretation went. He wasn't dictatorial like Wagner was in that regard. Generally speaking, though, things have become slower since Brahms' period. Though that's a trend with pretty much all romantic-era composers. Pic related are some timings you might find interesting, though they are a bit deceptive. For example, Mengelberg and Furt cannot be judged based on their timings alone since they conducted in an extremely fluid manner.
Piano is the least feminine instrument because you don't have to suck or blow anything. Strings are obviously very gay too because they all start with V.
I hate it too I hate how ubiquitous it has become and how it replaced other keyboard instruments even for music composed centuries ago. I hate pianists and the overwhelming romantic and homosexual feel they give to everything pre-Romantic piece they lay they fingers on. Been listening to a ton of Baroque era harpsichord music played on historical instruments and the difference is abysmal. The harpsichord along with the organ are the highest test musical instruments that exist. Fuck piano, fuck pianists and fuck Romantic era music.
Jack Miller
Fried is definitely one of those old meme conductors you can easily pass on.
Kevin Cook
braaaaaaaaaap
Lucas Rogers
Kapustin underrated desu
Daniel Kelly
THOUGH IT’S COLD AND LONELY IN THE DEEP DARK NIIIIIIIIIGHT
Also Pisendel and if you want to go older there's Corelli
Jeremiah Wright
Ages ago I think I read something among the lines of tenor concerts (those in which they perform random arias for the general public) being fast-food music served on stadiums. I don't remember if it was Hindemith, Schönberg, Penderecki, or maybe it was a random user or my mind playing tricks with myself. Nevertheless, I can't find any such quote from any well-known musician. Has any user read something like this, and could he point me to the source?
Thomas Price
why does bartok have the best string quartets
Ian Price
thanks for the suggestions, ive already fond a few great pieces because of it
Gabriel Bailey
Based and folkpilled.
Ryan Barnes
Haydn has that title I'm afraid
Mason Adams
Sneed Formerly bump
Josiah Bennett
>no Beethoven Plebs
Anthony Bailey
>doing the cockmongler face too true kek
Nolan Diaz
This is the best Beethoven quartet, prove me wrong
which composer best exemplifies sneed? im thinking schulhoff
Nolan Baker
that depends, which one is the most BASED
Asher Bell
Haydn
Andrew Harris
Johann Sneedstian Bump
Michael Ross
france24.com/en/20190710-chloe-flower-scene-stealing-pianist-turning-classical-music >The 33-year-old artist won the internet earlier this year after a showstopping performance at the Grammys alongside rap queen Cardi B, who twerked on Liberace's crystal piano as Flower, wearing couture, theatrically struck thunderous chords. >The Juilliard-trained artist >Flower describes classical music's reputation as dusty -- a friend of hers likened New York's famed Carnegie Hall as "God's waiting room," due to its elderly clientele -- as a "packaging" problem. >"What we have to do as instrumentalists and artists is for all of us to really think about our music in a different way; in a modern way," she said. > "Fashion has a huge, huge, huge role in my performance" >My music is purely instrumental," she said. "So there are no lyrics -- I have to find different ways to express myself." >"I think that people think that without lyrics, you can't really understand the music or connect." "you can do it in a way that captures them and then add the element of accessibility, which for me was the drums" Thoughts? Is classical music doomed to irrelevance without twerking, flashy clothes and rap beats? How could pianists express themselves when they are playing a music without lyrics???
Justin Powell
so dumb it's not even worth a response
Luis Reed
i think we should stop playing all these old, white men composers and play some women of colour music
More Vivaldi. Listen to L'estro armonico, which influenced many of his contemporaries, including Bach. The concerto you posted is a part of that collection.
guys beginner here what's the best place to learn music theory any channel/playlist website/course
Austin Reyes
Alan Belkin for advanced 20th century 12tone for easy stuff Rick Beato for easy and hard stuff Orchestration Online for orchestration Samuel Andreyev for advanced 20th century theory Adam Neely is okaaay too but his channel isn't as focused as the others. Adam Neely is like music theory Vsauce if that makes any sense
Started playing piano 4 years ago. Really happy I switched to organ last year. Learning dynamics and all the subtleties just seemed more tedious than rewarding. I don't really have a passion for the sound of the instrument as well. Playing on a 300-year-old mechanical wonder in a church every week is almost like a spiritual experience in comparison.
Lucas Gonzalez
Twentieth Century Harmony (Persichetti) Principles of Orchestration (Rimsky-Korsakov) Tonal Harmony (Kostka) Gradus Ad Parnassum (Fux) Behind Bars (Elaine Gould) The Study of Orchestration (Samuel Adler) Guide to the Practical Study of Harmony (Tchaikovsky) Fundamentals of Music Composition (Schoenberg) Theory of Harmony (Schoenberg)
there are more but i want to beat my meat and learn this piece im working on. that should be a good start
You say that, but the only concerts my local orchestra is guaranteed to sell out are the ones with newer pieces, and the age average drops from around 50-odd to 30-odd. There's this one chamber performance that is every single Beethoven sonata. On one hand, that's impressive. On the other, the only people who have the time or money to watch that are all retired. So I guess trying a more contemporary program would work.
William Sullivan
It's the other way around here. Playing the big B (Bach, Beethoven, Brahms) composers is usually a sellout and also attracts the younger audience, playing modern works attracts the old subscribers.
Christian Cox
>brahms in the 3 B's bartok took his place long ago
why does it seem like guitar completely skipped the 20th century. its either boring second rate romantic music or shitty new complexity. i guess we have leo brouwer and dusan bogdanovic
youtu.be/XHHzop0ha6Y Extremely disappointed that there is not a folder of baroque music in the OP
Jordan King
i dont really enjoy schoenberg but this is pretty interesting user. thanks
Landon Morgan
hello /classical/, i would like to write four part chorales like bach, but dont know where to start. does anyone have any resources about the basics of four part voice leading?
Leo Hughes
Gradus Ad Parnassum (Fux)
Christopher Miller
thank you, i'll check it out
Julian Robinson
absolutely based and top-tier
Cameron Parker
What is a chorale?
Gabriel Sanders
Atkinson has some of the most enjoyable analysis in youtube
Angel Gonzalez
Try Harmony And Voice Leading by Carl Schachter & Edward Aldwell It's the book we used to learn voice leading and part writing in my conservatory
Anthony Rodriguez
deez nuts lol
Bentley Hall
dunno probably tylo b chillin
Thomas Martinez
You mean Boulez, you reactionary scum
Kevin Roberts
more like poolez
Parker Wilson
thanks, ill check that out too
Colton Kelly
Also a nigger
Adrian Johnson
objectively wrong opinions /general/? I mean I suppose Boulez is a good substitute for Brahms in that he's the only composer who managed to be more compositionally constipated
David Bennett
Will Spem in alium ever be surpassed?
Nicholas Howard
ew
Ayden Morales
Is there a /classical/ buying guide for e pianos? My budget is 4-500$ (actually euros)... there are a lot of used ones on ebay in that range or should I get a new one? Any tips on the brand?
>longside rap queen Cardi B, who twerked on Liberace's crystal piano I feel bi polar because im rapidly switching between laughing my ass off and weeping after reading this
>You say that, but the only concerts my local orchestra is guaranteed to sell out are the ones with newer pieces, and the age average drops from around 50-odd to 30-odd. There's this one chamber performance that is every single Beethoven sonata. On one hand, that's impressive. On the other, the only people who have the time or money to watch that are all retired. So I guess trying a more contemporary program would work. Does "newer pieces" in this context mean "musical theater" and "movie score"?
Brandon Jackson
What's the Beethoven 9th of obscure classical
Samuel Green
>climax and break in the middle of a movement and then proceeding to repeat it why do brainlets like Schuhmann do this?
Why is the Dies irae quoted do often? I was just thinking about how it might be the most quoted melody of all times when I decided to listen to Shostakovich's Hamlet suite and it fucking popped up again. What's so memorable about it?
Ryan Rivera
They can't help it, they are terminally G*rman
Matthew Smith
Absolutely cringe opinion
William Foster
Massively famous, endlessly quoted obscure classical? I believe that is what one might call an oxymoron.
Jose Wilson
awesome thanks my dude
Luke Sanchez
Unironically this If Beethoven's ode to joy is the "Hymn of humanity" then the dies irae is our hymm of Death.
Adam Richardson
perhaps it means entry level obscure
Ryder Morales
There is nothing obscure about it. How do we quantify or qualify obscurity?
Levi Gutierrez
>How do we quantify or qualify obscurity? Try your best retard
Austin Taylor
youtu.be/5fzGXaFQloc Has anyone ever played this better than Richter did? Genuinely curious here.
its only the first few phrases thats memorable just super centred around the home key i guess
Landon Parker
strong implied harmonic motion at a constant rhythm modal quality (flat 7) is unusual in a modern context and typifies the romantic ideal of church music historically, its association with the church means that for composers and audiences alike it had a strong programmatic implication
This is another book that unfortunately insists on reducing our sonic universe to 12 objects and then plays some math with them. Octave equivalence, prime forms, inversionally related sets, together with the insistence that dissonance is cultural instead of a (well understood) physical phenomenon produce results that completely disregard the reality of sound and that no appeal to an imaginary “different hear” can rescue.
Examples abound: the treatment of chord inversions as identical; Forte’s cataloguing of chords (which makes, for example, a major triad and a minor triad considered the same); “chords of equal interval sum” which, for example, ends up including dyadic, triadic and quartal harmonies (Fig.2 page 123) in the same family; “sums modulo N” which obtain a colossal number of chord families that end up being undistinguishable from picking chords at random; the chord progressions described in “Parallel Classes”, that are selected from the possible millions based on some arbitrary mathematical property.
And there lies the problem with this misuse of mathematics: there is no isomorphism between 12 ordered objects, and their possible combinations over a uniform metric, and a much larger class of ordered objects (the 88-90 tempered pitches) for which combinations are ordered by a complex metric (see e.g. Sethares, W. A. Tuning, timbre, spectrum, scale. 2nd edn, [Springer-Verlag, 2005].).
You might as well play math with colored pebbles, obtain exactly the same results described in this book, and not move much in the direction of understanding how musical composition works.
god damn it feels good when something clicks and you gain an appreciation for styles or instruments or whatever that you couldn't get into before and whole new world open us for you
Excellent grand piano sound, enough features to be musically useful but not daunting, ultra-portability, and low price. If the P-105 had an Internet meme in LOLspeak, it would be “Basic: Ur doin’ it right.”
I'm sorry, what? What do you mean "cringe composer"? What makes Rachmaninov "cringe"? What composers are not "cringe"? Kocsis was an amazing pianist, but here he played way too fast, in my opinion at least. He did the crescendo at the beginning way too soon, as well. This interpretation just lacks the force and mistery that Richter's has. Personally, I think he was better suited for Rachmaninov's third youtu.be/OVmgIIKBnWE
Guys. I saw Götterdämmerung last weekend. I teared up several times. Is that a normal Wagner experience?
Cooper Robinson
Wow. Never encountered someone who would know of this pianist. I read about him in a booklet about Tiegerman, a CD I bought some years ago. He has an unique take on the Chopin Ballades (lots of pedal, rubato, eruptuous crescendi) youtube.com/watch?v=4MqMgonWu9E&frags=pl,wn
Also a shame that Bunin doens't perform on stages anymore, let alone record in a studio. He has been working as a teacher in Japan for quite some years as far as I know. Stupendous recording of the Kreisleriana. youtube.com/watch?v=dtRVZaqYP78&frags=pl,wn
Yeah I learned about him through Tiegerman, who I learned about through Friedman. Very weird guy but I find him quite interesting to listen to. Though I will admit that his heavy pedal is a bit annoying at time because he often performs in very wet acoustics. There's a performance of some Ravel from him which sounds like it was performed in my bathtub.
Cooper Roberts
Noice. The viola sonata is one my favorite pieces by Roslavets. It also has a nice poeme de l'extase quote.
I got my hands on the Schott edition of the 6th violin sonata. Will get to work on it with a friend in a couple weeks. Will be gud. youtube.com/watch?v=mY-B98uNhuo&frags=pl,wn
Asher Williams
Also heard that Barda tells his students that they need to know how to play pieces backwards.
If that were true this must be one if not the worst pedagogical advice I've heard in a long time. Second would be the teaching that rubato playing is reserved only for concert pianists. Also the assignment to play Bachs two part inventions in octaves with both hands for technical purposes. Fuck me.
Nicholas Richardson
Why would it be deleted?
Camden Perry
To think that there's an idiot who did a whole article about Bach being atheist and composing the cantatas ironically... One of his brilliant arguments was that he didn't compose cantatas in his latest years, that means he wasn't interested in God anymore.
David King
Dislike for Rachmaninov has been consensus under academical eclectics and "music experts" for a century now. No reason to pay attention.
Guys. I saw Mass in B minor last weekend at a church. I lost feeling in my limbs and departed from my body several times. Is that a normal Bach experience?
Connor Nelson
I guess the uncomfortable church bench constricted blood flow from your legs.
Cameron Garcia
It wasn't just in my legs, but across my whole body, even my face
Gavin Myers
Could a case be made for the piano version of it, though? When talking about this work with many others they always say how surprised they were when they found out that this was adapted from a piano composition, and I also knew it first through Ravel's orchestration.
