No, Billie Eilish isn’t an ‘industry plant.’ And you’re just parroting other people when you say so. It’s one thing to not like her music, which is fine, to each their own. It’s another thing to construct a series of conspiracies so you don’t have to believe a teenage girl can make music. The amount of vitriol being thrown at a teenage girl by grown ass men is frankly insane, especially considering the amount of false information being spread about a completely harmless pop artist.
Let’s break down some of the crazier things tons of people here are saying;
‘Her parents are heavily connected in the industry and she’s only famous because they’re famous.’
Oh really, who are her parents? Are they house hold names? Wait, no, they’re low level actors with a few bit parts to their name and one low budget movie they made together. The biggest role either of her parents have gotten is voice acting on Mass Effect 2. They’re not record producers, they’re not famous musicians, they’re not elite media types. They’re unknown artists who probably have less clout in the industry than a small town radio DJ. You’re telling me they had enough power to make her music career go off, but not enough to make their own careers go off?
‘Her music and image are formed by her label, she’s made by a committee.’
She co-writes and makes all her music with her brother in his small room in their parents modest, middle class house. Need proof? Here you go. They’re weren’t uber wealthy before her career took off, and they’re not controlled by their label. If anything, they’re more intimate and more authentic than 99% of musicians out there. How many musicians do you know that don’t record in a studio, but in a small bedroom? That’s more DIY than the majority of indie bands. She also has strong creative control over her videos, and even directed one of them. And if the studio is dictating her fashion and style, why does she wear gigantic clothes and chunky sneakers (the same clothes she wore before she was famous)? She very specially avoids sexualizing herself like all female pop artists do (which is also fine).
If your only real argument for her being an industry plant is that her label has promoted the shit out of her through interviews and music videos, duh genius, that’s what record labels do. That’s their job. Having the full support of her label doesn’t make her a ‘plant.’ They’ve done this with every major artist in history. By this logic The Beatles, The Clash, and Queen are ‘industry plants.’
The irony of people singling in on an artist who co-creates all of her music with her own brother (with no other writers and producers), does it by themselves in a small bedroom, and calling her ‘inauthentic’ is astounding. For years Redditors complained about pop stars with 50 songwriters contributing to each song, and finally a pop star comes along who writes all her music with her brother, and they throw a fit.
Jeremiah Ross
What it comes down to is grown men believing a teenage girl is incapable of making authentic music and must be the product of famous parents and a record industry creating her out of thin air. It’s sad, and frankly sexist at this point. When Arctic Monkeys blew up as teenagers and were heavily promoted by their label, no one claimed they were ‘inauthentic’ and an ‘industry plant.’
Dislike her music all you want, just don’t parrot lies and half truths because you can’t believe a teenage girl can create hit music.
Jack Williams
Not sure if bait, but i wholeheartedly agree with this.
People will always find something to complain about, especially when there's this much money involved, it's just how people work.
Even if she is or isn't an industry plant, does it even really matter ?
I mean, if you don't like her, just don't fucking talk about her. Each bit of hate you spew against her is only going to make her more famous.
The only winning move is not to play.
Benjamin Jones
she's an industry plant and sucks
Justin Barnes
2 effeminate, possibly transsexual zoomers wanking each other off over their favourite shilled pop idol great thread guys by the way she totally is a plant and her music will never be good, no matter how hard you cope
When the voices speak to you, what do they usually say ?
Evan Torres
"Billie ellish is an industry plant" is an industry plant, they've done it because she is actually an industry plant and by planting "Billie ellish is an industry plant" they will get more exposure.
However I am unsure whether ""Billie ellish isn't an industry plant" is itself an industry plant
Adam Ortiz
>The biggest role either of her parents have gotten is voice acting on Mass Effect 2
What character?
Josiah Ortiz
I mean judging from your comparison between how arctic monkeys blew up and how billie eilish blew up A) You have literally no idea how the industry works B) You have no idea how the industry has changed since the early 2000s C) Your taste is dreadful by equating the two and I am by no means a fan of arctic monkeys whatsoever
you just want to have your cake and eat it too, the fact that your teen popstar idol makes shit music and has been accepted in part as a critical darling through either financial encouragement or sheer delusion produces a conflict within you that eats you up inside you either admit you're a basic bitch, or that you have shit taste. those are your options pick one.
pic an artist to obsess over. create a post about them every day. more than one per day if possible. rinse. repeat. each poster picks one artist only and they can't be the same as anyone else's. that's Yea Forums in 2019
Nathan Anderson
>child artist on a major label does whatever she wants Whatever you'd like to believe m8. And the Monkeys were on an indie, a more apt comparison would be the Beibs
i low key can't fuck with this, just removed her from my apple music library sorry
not a big loss for music
Gavin Fisher
Tranquility Based Hotel + Kino is AOTD
Nathan Scott
>there stopped reading there
Tyler Wilson
"Music" for the brainless masses and a industry plant. One more...
Ryder Rodriguez
So true or false, you can't think of any reason she'd be a "critical darling" other than the reasons mentioned right? Money or delusion... No other ideas of why she would appeal to critics?
Josiah Peterson
Nooooooo
Matthew Kelly
There are already several threads for this talentless hack, faggot fuck off until you learn to catalog
It’s all about the clout tokens. She didn’t even know Jah IRL.
Ethan Stewart
what sort of fucked 12D chess are you playing?
Noah Diaz
how do you know? oh ... because he didnt beat her ass
Camden Peterson
The truth is an industry plant? "ok"
Jack Reed
They never met. He couldn’t leave Florida due to being on house arrest for the charges. Their “special friendship” was merely a few FaceTime calls and texts.
Brayden Hernandez
Without a bunch of middle aged men telling her what to do and her parents pimping her out she’d probably be a pretty cheerleader who listens to Taylor swift and likes Starbucks, with a scholarship to a upper mid tier state school and a boyfriend on the swim team whose heart she’ll break at the end of summer but they’ll never forget each other
And they took that from her.
Caleb Bell
>Billie Eyelash Stopped reading there Everything is an industry plant if you think about it
Caleb Wright
that...and he never beat her ass
Mason Scott
This is a Wendy’s, sir
Wyatt Ross
what is this pasta?
Logan Mitchell
>authentically socially conscious artists don’t memorialize abusers Tell that to Denzel, Kendrick, Alicia Keys....
Angel Phillips
Huge difference between blacks mourning their own vs a lily-white clout chaser doing the same.
Cooper Martin
Reminder that literally every billie thread positive or negative is posted by the same person
Josiah Flores
odds that someone at interscope made this reddit post?
Samuel Rivera
>No other ideas of why she would appeal to critics? the fact that she could make a lot of money and to get her onside with interviews and features means revenue for content creators.
Imagine a brand new artist as somewhat like speculation on a market, if everybody values it higher than it's actually worth, participating in that market can be profitable until that bubble bursts. So when Billie eilish's stock is rising, writing and producing content for your website, online music pub, or social media venture means clicks, more ad views, and more revenue
best way to use it sometimes I just come back here to piss the ladytron spammer off he's like a retarded kid in a cage that you can poke at with a stick
Bentley Jackson
Holy shit I’d fuck Curry. Shillie should consider herself lucky having 24/7 access to his body and intellect.
Landon Ramirez
The point is, who the fuck told you she actually makes good music? If she's a industry plant or not, it doesn't matter because her songs are tryhard shit.
And lorde was the dollar store bjork Such is the cycle.
Colton Brown
You're completely right on all fronts, of course, but why bother sharing it here? You know the space for discussion has been swallowed up by vitriol and memetic content.
You'd have better luck getting a genuine Simpsons thread going over on Yea Forums.
Christopher Ward
Haha it looks like she's bullying me for having a little dick haha that would be horrible
