Listen to This and Tell Me Em Doesn't Still Have It
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Nobody who listens to Eminem's music for real thinks he "doesn't have it anymore" and the most honest who dislike his new shit will admit he's rapping at a higher level than he ever has but they they just don't care for the style of music he makes now compared to his old shit.
The vast majority of people who hate on Eminem are just social media parasites probably between the ages of 25 and 15 who never knew Eminem music to begin with and are just angry because he's a "problematic" straight white male who makes angry music.
cringe :/
Nobody cares about rap per-se anymore, zoomers these days only like beats.
literally couldnt be further from the truth degenerate
Actually it's the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Sorry lesbian.
yikes.
cringe :/
he doesn't have it, he never had it
Eminem's flow and rhyme schematics have probably never been better, but in most songs he doesn't have anything interesting to talk about. In songs like Rock Bottom and Renegade, the lyrical content matched with the technical ability. These days he's mostly talking gibberish or about the same old shit. It's just words that rhyme now, no meaning behind it.
This. Storytelling > technicality and vocalbury
The meaning behind it is the exact same as it was before. It's angst about hating slutty women, angst about hating critics, angst about hating the music industry, angst about hating whack rappers who get accepted, angst about having a fucked up family life, angst about censorship, angst about having been bullied as a kid
That's what Eminem is about, blacks piled on saying none of that is relevant and that he needed to have "content" that was "relevant" to the current climate, so he did Revival....we all saw how that turned out, it was garbage, but he did what his haters wanted to do and they still hated it. Proof that Em haters are literally just hating on him because he's white and straight, not because of any reason you've said.
And let's face it, no rappers or artists period evolve that much or turn into different people. Most rappers talk about the same shit their whole career, as do rock bands. Nobody likes change in themes from artists they like because they relate to the themes specifically and there is nothing wrong with that, having distinct themes that you own is what makes you unique from other artists. Nobody wants to watch a Batman movie to see Batman act like Spider-Man, every Batman movie until the end of time is going to deal with the same themes.
People who say his songs don't have storytelling anymore will happily listen the same old tired "hood" bullshit or the tryhard woke lyrics. Admit it, it's just about the beats now. What storytelling did Igor have? Nothing. It was just a string of abstract bullshit layered with whacky beats. There are very few people who bring anything new to the table, most people say things that have already been said. It is all about how you can say the same thing more cleverly/differently than others
em's still a great rapper but last two albums are just plain boring desu. the only song i have on my playlist from them is Castle.
Hes become a typical 'lyrical miracle' white rapper
>up on a little like osama with a bomb under the bin
>and down the middle of the pentagon
>and hit a kindergartener with a rental
The old Eminem would have never said that shit. It shows off his rhyme ability but it's like wtf?? It's not hard-hitting at all.
no problems to rap about = not interesting anymore
the most passionate issue on eminem's mind nowadays is ORANGE MAN BAD, of course he's fucking lame
This isn't 2017 dumbass magatard, when has he fulminated against trump this year or in any of his past few songs aside from a few lines on ringer that are just alluding to that cypher?
They haven't listened to any new Eminem, they just know they hate Eminem because he's white and straight.
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This. Eminem is based, fags and SJWs are just salty AF. And that's a good thing, Eminem exists to be the voice of the eternal Bart Simpson, the eternal Cartman.
Eminem was based 20 years ago but he's not based now. I'm not a fag or SJW btw.
Name your top five artists, and I'll be the judge of whether you're a fag or SJW.
You can't judge me without a lawyer with me.
He needs to get back on drugs. If Proof was alive he would beg to be shot again.
(you) are retarded
Nah, Proof was from the same school of Detroit backpackers Eminem was, in fact he was the guy more highly regarded in that scene back in the day, he was all about lyrics and technical shit.
That's their scene, they got big to normie rap fans because of Dre production and pop formatting, but they were from the backpack lyrical battle rap world.
>Eminem is based, fags and SJWs are just salty AF
Eminem IS a fag, user.
you almost had it in the first half
he's still a technically good rapper, but that's it. he raps fast and has interesting rhyme schemes, but it sounds choppy as fuck and his content is boring, that's why he's declining in popularity
The awnsers to this post are proving you right. Based.
>but it sounds choppy as fuc
I like it, it's more aggressive sounding
>his content is boring
To you, he's the only rapper who's content I personally enjoy anymore and have sworn off new rap other than Eminem like a year ago because he's the only one who talks about shit I want to hear, and many are like me even if they still like other rap
God he's so fucking lost. Who is eminem in 2019?
The worlds biggest backpack rapper. And the highest selling rap artist of all time.
Emi who?
That's nice but im talking about the art user. I feel like em is stylistically meandering around these days with no real pretense in his songs. Like in the track you posted he goes from bitting kanyes flow to directly addressing naysayers like some third rate hopsin tier eminem copycat. Its just so wack.
I didn't post any song, and Eminem has never rapped anything like Kanye, because Eminem raps good and Kanye raps like a special ed student who can't read and doesn't know English.
Sad but true. Modern rap neglects that one thing that makes the genre special: complex lyrics
He literally voted for Hillary
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And? He's a rapper, part of his career means being liberal.
ahaha please tell me this is bait
>Eminem raps good
you're the one who doesn't know english, white trash idiot
Yeah, about Kanye's choice of politics...
It means he appeals to söylents. He said "faggot" in a song last year and then apologized for that. He's a söylent pussy.
He's never gotten over how the black community doesn't accept him or play him on hip-hop radio and most of his fanbase tends to overlap with the kind of people who are into Kid Rock and nu metal.
> Tell Me Em Doesn't Still Have It
yeah literally nobody except that faggot Machine Gun Kelly thought this though
Dude was ok when you were 12. After that what was the point?
Black privilege
I'm not white you faggot pedophile whiteboy, you watch cuck porn and will be a tranny within a year...stop LARPing and admit you're a cuck faggot
Not really true at all
>he doesn’t rap good
What does that even mean? He’s a fucking superstar. Did I just get baited?
It's grammatically incorrect. It should be "Eminem raps well". I hate to be a pedantic nigger but since the retard I was talking to brought up knowledge of the English language I couldn't resist.
For the record Eminem does rap well. Its technically undeniable. It's just his music that blows.
>For the record Eminem does rap well. Its technically undeniable. It's just his music that blows.
Just like Canibus?
To say Eminem's music blows is a lie. You're just a fucking queer so you can't relate to it. Kill yourself.
ahaha yeah, like Canibus
Jesus are you underage? Grow up. There's no way this isn't bait
Eminem, DMX, Xzibit, and 50 Cent were the last worthwhile rappers. Everything after is garbage or mediocre at best. Anyone who disagrees is a fucking newbie who thinks tranny rap belongs in hip hop.
>Eminem, DMX, Xzibit, and 50 Cent were the last worthwhile rappers
Suburban white boy hands typed this post.
>Suburban
Yes...but guarantee less suburban than you, considering I live within walking distance of Detroit city limits
>white boy
No, but guarantee you are
Kys
Kendrick is better than these four, except Eminem.
listen to this and tell me em doesn't still have it
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He never had anything. How are you on a music board if you unironically listen to eminem?
A bore when white rappers like aesop exist
Kendrick is a shitty "woke" rapper with a twelve year old boy's voice mimicking Lil Wayne every rapper since Wayne has had over generic homogenized "sounds like southern rap but way more poppy" music every rapper raps over now. I know he can rap on some level, but better than them? No, he's not nearly as distinct. Xzibit brought Detroit grit to West Coast sounding smooth music, DMX was a psychopath who flirted with horrorcore and music style was very NYC but unlike anything else at the same time, 50 Cent was just the last true gangster rapper to hit it big who wasn't trash.
Faggot.
This isn't the type of question to start its own thread over so I'll ask here: why the fuck does RYM hate Eminem so much? Are you telling me Kamikaze deserves a 2.04 while a bunch of (other) generic trap trash gets rated much higher?
Kamikaze is generic rap shit. Only difference is it sounds like an album from 2005
You don't listen to rap, you listen to beats. Kill yourself casual faggot.
Em Doesn't Still Have It
I put "other" in parentheses and you still didn't get the message. Shit that is just as or decidedly MORE generic than it easily gets 3s on RYM all the time.
Eminem is fucking incredible (probably the best) at doing shit that nobody cares about anymore.
GTFO logic, you tired ass.
What generic albums are you referring too?
All of the following are lyrics written by Eminem:
"Since I’m manure, she’s a sewer / And this time this piece of shit’s running through her"—"Tragic Endings"
"She wants a computer lodged in her vagina / Said my dick is an apple, she said put it inside her"—"Heat"
"I’m swimmin’ in that Egyptian river, ’cause I’m in denial (/The Nile)"—“Need Me”
"I’m lookin’ at your tight rear like a sightseer / Your booty is heavy duty (/doody) like diarrhea"—“Remind Me”
you're mostly right. it would take too long for me to explain exactly what i think you're wrong about so i won't
they all suck. actually it's a good thing that some women suck dick sometimes so i'll just say that they're all bad
Metal > rap
Rap fans are all idiotic faggots and will always be, and liking rap isn't even counter culture anymore like it was in the 90s and even in the 00s when you'd still be judged for it by the bubblegum and rock listeners, now it's literally just degenerate pop music. To be a modern rap fan is to be a fucking lemming moron.
none of the rap that i listen to is really popular but you are free to have your opinion even if i think it's a shitty one
Reminder that music is first and foremost a sonic artistic expression and that any literary qualities are secondary and ultimately negligible.
Lyrical "content" should have no influence on a listener's judgement of the music itself.
I don't listen to rap much anymore, but Kendrick Lamar- DAMN. for example
It was better than kamikaze.
i think you're wrong. if the lyrics of some music are really good i might be more likely to remember the music as being good and listen to it again
>Nobody cares about rap per-se anymore
not true, freddie gibbs is doing fairly well with his new album. as is griselda. Eminem just sucks ass and disguises his inability to form substantive lyrics behind a wall of intricate rhyme schemes
They you're a low iq retard who might as well be liking music for the album cover.
why do you want to justify lyrical wankery. It sounds horrible and means nothing, it contributes nothing of value
and he's ORANGE
>why do you want to justify lyrical wankery
I don't.
>it contributes nothing of value
That's what I said.
the content is shit, its not enjoyable to listen to. It takes a lot for me to delve into the lyrics of a song anymore, so when you're attempting to be lyrical at least justify the lyricism by containing substance. This fails to do that. its bad to listen to on all levels. this shit used to fly back in the early 2000s when this schtick was sorta new but nowadays its transparent what hes doing
ah my mistake. still tho, if you were going to be a "lyricist" in hiphop you're going to have to justify its use because there were a million other rappers before and currently that have done it or are doing it and its use HAS to be compared to others so the standards for it are just monumentally high.
don't undersell all of eminem's songs
Stan is a genuine masterpiece of substance, and his MMLP was a fucking good album, and so was Infinite
it makes no difference whatsoever if i (or you) care about him or not so why should i care about him at all?
For the most part, any emphasis on lyrics in any kind of music is a waste of time.
So were a lot of other hip hop albums of that era.
>MMLP was a fucking good album
there are maybe 4 songs that arent filled with horrorcore trash lines. There are several misses on this album and it has some of the worst features on any hiphop album ever.
>and so was Infinite
AZ ripoff
>retard fan: kills self to be like eminem
>eminem: woah
So much to chew on.
so YOU can listen to music without lyrics and I will keep on listening to music with lyrics
Stan is one of the most important hiphop songs of all time.
Bjork did it first.
based and redpilled
genuinely curious, what song?
It wasn't a song.
It's popular, meant to be sad (i think?), and a very lame effort to seem deep.
I'd love to hear why it's so "important" though.
just give me its name
I listen to music with lyrics like most people.
I just don't fool myself into
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thinking that the lyrics determine the quality of the music in any way.
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Did em ever have an actual stalker?
>why it's so "important" though.
Besides being a monumental single that is one of the greatest factors why people 20 years after the fact of its release still call eminem a GOAT despite eminem being inconsistent since its release. Stan has a unique idea, a depth of storytelling not matched by many other songs at the time besides slick rick and even today there aren't any real comparisons to its theatrical execution, it challenges the lengths of which you can take a narrative in a rap song, and its relatable.
Stan the word, is infamous for its colloquial meaning of an obsessive fan, used by nas on ether and now teen girls on twitter, and even being apart of the official webster's dictionary, its the first slang-term from a hiphop song to have any legitimacy and legacy far beyond its initial meaning. This song would also further influence other narrative songs like "Sing About Me, I'm Dying Of Thirst".
>Stan has a unique idea
What idea are you talking about?
>a depth of storytelling
Please expand on this "depth," because the story (and the way it's told) is pretty straight forward.
>it challenges the lengths of which you can take a narrative in a rap song
It really doesn't. Framing the song as a series of letters, while kind of clever (I guess), hardly breaks new ground for the way song lyrics had been delivering stories before its release.
>its relatable
literally who cares?
>its the first slang-term from a hiphop song to have any legitimacy and legacy far beyond its initial meaning
The repurposing of the term "MC" not only happened before Eminem's career, but I would argue is far more important to hip hop than the word Stan.
The Marshall Mathers LP 2 [Interscope, 2013]
You don't like it, you don't like the art form. Simple as that. A
Bringing in a lawyer is fag move
>follow
Just when I thought I couldn't dislike Christagau more. What an absolute hack.
Idk why it put "follow" in my post. Sorry, disregard that.
eminem is whack and cringe
he'd be better if he was black and not hating on mr oringe
he was better when he was on vicodins
now he just takes vitamins
(thats whack)
hey whatever happened to the old em who wasnt afraid to offend
now hes a boring old man and hes not rapping hes just playing pretend
and he looks just like a cretin
who watches blacked and jerks off with his left hand
man em whatever happened to you
you used to be true
now its all clickbait for views on youtube
you sold out more than U2
sincerely your biggest fan,
this is stan.
damn.
>Forgetting Killa Cam
HEAVY DOOTY BOOTY LIKE DIARRHEA
I miss the Em that ripped Benzino to confetti. That was at the peak of his powers.