/prod/ - music production general

Sure thing buddy

How can I automate the pitch of a note that is already played in Ableton? The pitch midi effect only works before the note is played

i panned the bass guitar the whole way left for a whole song

I unironically like synth pop

I love super bass and starships by Nicki Minaj

I'd rather use my software synths than my analog synths.

i fucked a black girl it was gross

I once derailed a /prod/ thread by replying to myself for almost 11 hours until it got archived.

I always put reverb on the kick

I hit a drop walk then I dab.

I post links to soundcloud but I don't even have an account there.

you don’t

render to audio and automate the semitones

how do I stop fucking around with synth parameters or drum samples for hours on end and actually start writing new material

separate your sound designing and your composition maybe? Every time you go on a sound designing adventure, save the presets. Use them when you are in composer mode.

at this point I don't even have a composer mode it's so bad.
I can't just sit down and compose, I don't know how to further a song. It's hard to describe.

how does squarepusher get those really skittery snares? Are they actually programmed that way, or is it just the sample he's using?

Join me in emulating Justice's sound on Cross and let's make an even bigger classically-influenced dance album. I can write melodies and chord progressions on guitar and I know music theory. I'm still looking for someone who knows the Justice sound and can pick iut good and bad song ideas.

I think in general you would tightly envelope & pitch up the chopped single hits of a drum break. I know he also likes to use granular based time stretching effects to get that kinda mechanical sound for which that effect is known.

if you didn't post a sc full of shit-mix covers and actually posted some clips of songs people might actually respond to you user

okay thanks. I worked around it by automating the pitch bend of the VST

Best way of getting more authentic, clean sounding drums? Are there any great drum VST's for this that anyone would rec?

... so acoustic or?
there are like a hundred. everybody addictive and slate mostly

I spent today writing a fucking dubstep song and the sounds are pretttty nieceee but it's basically just me endlessly automating the WOWOWOWOW over the same beat for a minute and a half now

I do not listen to this music but i like the sounds. Does everybody just break up the wanking part with irrelevant movie quotes and shit? I need more ideas and references for structures that aren't completely played out.

... if i was born like 5 years earlier i would have been getting pussy from this man wtfffff

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Hey anons I’m looking for a friend to work on hardcore/uptempo with. I don’t want to do anything too euro sounding (weird accent English vocals) but throw in more American taste sensibilities. I’ve only worked on metal/alt rock in the past few years and haven’t touched dance music since 2014. I have no interest in public spotlight since I’m bound to an exclusivity contract for now but you can publish whatever you like.

Superior Drummer, BFD, Addictive Drums, Slate (as previously mentioned), Specialized Kontakt Multi-mic drum kits.

What most of these allow you to do is to mix the mics exactly how u want. They setup like 12 mics, record the entire kit, every hit, every velocity, from all mics at once. Then you can go back and change the mix exactly how u want, as if you had recorded it. You can get pretty good convincing drums this way, but the hard part is always getting away from quantized, robotic midi that is used to trigger them.

I like to make drum breaks using superior drummer, but desu, all of the aforementioned libraries and plugins are great.

You guys made any sick Massive X patches yet?

no i don't care to use it

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how many of you haven't read the dance music manual?

I didn't

why

wtf is that?

I want to know how many people on this gen have an IQ of above 150

none basically

You just plug in midi and hit play m8

clearly not because this guy exists

is it actually a worthwhile read? i can only find pdf versions that are really not worth the effort to read

i skimmed and read a few passages months ago

if you are absolutely retarded and want to start writing in a genre you are unfamiliar with it might help. the brief historys were nice to read i guess.

imo it's for brainlet beginners and that's it, but then again if you're thinking about reading books to learn this shit i guess it's probably worth looking at lol

he is lying

Here's a small remix contest I won years ago

soundcloud.com/abandcalledquinn/forget-about-it-artifice-remix

How it won I have no idea. It was pretty shit admittedly, but most of the entrants were shit too

Oh and here's my old Soundcloud. I had a vision of making a duo like Daft Punk or Justice, using alien get-ups and writing a song in response to Daft Punk's "Contact" as the opening track.

soundcloud.com/high-dynamic-range

>DON'T link to Soundcloud or YouTube, etc. Anything that is not anonymous is considered self-promotion and will result in bad feedback.
>DON'T link to Soundcloud or YouTube, etc. Anything that is not anonymous is considered self-promotion and will result in bad feedback.
>DON'T link to Soundcloud or YouTube, etc. Anything that is not anonymous is considered self-promotion and will result in bad feedback.
>DON'T link to Soundcloud or YouTube, etc. Anything that is not anonymous is considered self-promotion and will result in bad feedback.

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even if you sounded good i wouldn't want to work with you solely based on how fucking dumb you come across spamming, multi-posting, and posting your soundcloud multiple times. fuck off m8

new to production, fiddling with samples and processing (found out that multiband compressor is really nice for dirty kind of sound)
instaud.io/3TYC
instaud.io/3TYD

I guess I'm spamming because no one's responding. Now I got someone to respond.

But really, there's not enough room for innovation in electronic music. I have no idea where music is going to next. The best thing I can think of is neoclassical electronic without all the wubs of dubstep and without all the weakness of new age.

Tip: the best most timeless electronic albums are sampled

Uhm sweatie, actual new age is one of the best electronic genres

>But really, there's not enough room for innovation in electronic music.
It sounds like you need to listen to more music. Who cares what the majority are doing -- they'll always be biting simple gimmicks to try and ride the latest fad for popularity or money or whatever. Fyck tath.

the fucking naysayers god damn

>not enough room
it's not about room, it's about what people actually want to listen to; there are plenty of artists who make unlistenable garbage full of interesting sounds

"electronic" music is all about timbre, the bleeding edge obviously pushes out to the limits of technology as it becomes available

rhythmically we've already gone full on complex pretty much as soon as midi allowed us to with daw sequencing; it's basically just going to be changing tastes again, likely from something we've heard before (a la trap from memphis shit) but obviously with a new attitude

..... blah blah

i could rant and respond to you for way too long

i have to actually make music unlike the "ProDUCerS" here :^)

Ok, join me and let's make a timeless sampled album like Discovery or Cross. Then you can show me how good new age is

The point is that I don't want to become just another average musician. The trick I've found is that the best most popular pure electronic albums are sampled from old albums. This is something you can analyze. No one's going to remember Skrillex or Deadmau5 because they're tied down by VSTs and Vengeance sample pack or whatever everyone uses. Instead, take Discovery or Cross and you'll see how clever they were as first albums, especially after Justice just got done making We Are Your Friends - that's minimalist compared to the Cross stuff. They used unique samples from albums instead of standard sample packs.

I want to make something special with lots of automation and attention to detail like the French stuff.

>bruh just read the dance music manual

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okay there was actually a sliver of me that thought you couldn't be *that* bad but you sound like a raging faggot user.

Literally everything you just said is wrong or oversimplified, but the only thing i'll point out is that you're never going to be unique (or not average as you put it) with this outlook

having a bunch of brainlets here is less annoying than a bunch of high strung dunning krugers so.... eh it's not all bad

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How stupid is the following workflow:
>record samples in Reaper
>edit samples in Audacity
>arrange samples in Impulse
>render individual tracks in Impulse (by manual muting and unmuting)
>put rendered tracks back together in Reaper
>apply effects and mix down in Reaper
>high strung dunning krugers
That guy has to be baiting and his last post basically confirms it.

You never see any electronic musician besides Daft Punk or Justice, or Kraftwerk being nominated for Grammys. The French sound is the most successful non-pop music and my personal favorite is Justice because they fuse rock, metal, disco, and classical into the perfect listenable electronic music, so why not emulate their style?

At least you're saying something now.

>At least you're saying something now.
Wait... who do you think I am? This is my first post in this thread.

i don't give a fuck if you like their sound and want to make music like that, it's a cool ass sound, but you're being a giant faggot about both stating your philosophy, and having faggot ass opinions

depends what you're doing to them in audacity mostly

impulse is underrated but if you're literally just sequencing and not using it's features that sounds stupid lol.

i don't personally care for the effects in reaper but that's not completely stupid

Mainly pitch shifting in audacity only when needed.
The effects in Reaper would be things like compression, saturation, and EQ for the most part. Not necessarily stock effects.
Impulse has features? Are you referring to the envelopes you can set for instruments and the filter?

This thread was dead when I posted.

Anyway, Justice Cross-style album using their production automation tricks with either a metal dark foreboding get-up like the metal act Ghost BC or ayy lmaos.

kek

>pitch shifting
okay yeah now you're trippin if that's it.

bro are you serious about impulse? i would say read the manual but it's all pretty straight foward, move the numbers lol.

i can't recall the version but when drum rack came out in an ableton update everybody immediately jumped ship even though there isn't really a crossover and you can use impulse in drum rack anyway lol.

... but yeah if you're not using exclusive effects extensively that workflow actually is dumb

The cross of dungeon rap sampled from Demarcus' 500 demo beats

i dont get it

Just put four on the floor and feel the music

Just get renoise for an all in one solution

Regarding Impulse, when I say sequencing, I mean taking advantage of the workflow permitted by the sequencer: adjusting sample start times, repeats, cut off, portamento, old school manual pitch down by retriggering the sample while slowly advancing the sample start time, etc.
Oh... shit. You think I'm talking about Ableton's Impulse.
Thank you, user. This makes sense and is the best solution but it doesn't satisfy my autism and masochism.

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>Oh... shit. You think I'm talking about Ableton's Impulse.
i lol'd out loud

so you're that one tracker autist

anyone use Cakewalk

Come again. I think I'm missing out on an ingenious plan

>I make a beat and think it sounds perfect without any "important" mixing/mastering tools on it, should I second guess myself

100% you sound like shit and just don't realize it
yes, you should second guess yourself at this stage, now isn't really the time to think you're beyond the basics like that

instaud.io/3TZk
>spend many meticulous hours crafting a song
>sounds like shit

>bang something out in 30 minutes, don't give a fuck
>doesn't sound like shit
what did I mean by this

Do you mean this stuff? You should join me! Sounds like a good plan

youtu.be/-rtsZXEIxDs

>Based Lain

Is this how an analog mixing desk / channel strip looks?
Should I put a the saturator behind the compressor?

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Where can I sell some drum samples I've recorded?

general accepted "order" is eq>compression>distortion

.... i tend to put saturation before compression and eq last for reasons

lol

Actually, that's not too good if that was what you were referring to. I'm really looking for a good sample to start off an album. If I can get the first track going, the rest will come. It needs to be badass and go hard like Genesis. I'm thinking a boat horn like that Seven Nation Army video.

Boop beep song. feedback appreciated
instaud.io/3TZL

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the composition is good
the sound choice is good
the mixing is good for the genre
overall solid
experiment with the structure and sounds, some more

hello
i gave feedback now, give ME feedback...
pls...
instaud.io/3TZX

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>instaud.io/3TZX
spooky carnival music w/ good atmosphere. sounds like it could be the intro for something big

can someone explain to me how to get synths for Reaper
explain it to me like I'm a fucking idiot

What are the best sound libraries for hip hop / trap producers?

>make folder
>put dlls of vsts in said folder
>have reaper scan folder

I just bought an MPC 1000.
Did I fuck up?

I mean where on the internet do you get the vsts

anyone have any experience with Presonus Studio One? Pros and Cons?

ijust found out this thinkpad has another 500gb fug
hope this omnisphere will work

Read the sticky newfag
Use Google newfag

If you hate youself like I hate myself, you did good. Otherwise you fucked up.
Anywhere and everywhere -- just search for "free VST synth" or whatever you're looking for.
blog.landr.com/best-free-vst-plugins/

can you answer this

i did, the sticky isn't very clear

I knew it

>If you hate youself like I hate myself, you did good.
Elaborate pls

Not me cause EDM is garbage

Yes it is
vst4free.com
And learn to use google

The best thing is to take from everywhere so you develop your own unique sound. Steal from things that you especially enjoy and spark the feelings that you want to convey. Otherwise, if you just download some standard VST/sample pack, it's going to sound soulless.
Pain in the ass workflow compared to modern software which can save you tons of time, but it's good for distracting yourself from life and getting lost in the music making process. Bonus points if you do everything live and don't quantize (even though the MPC1000 has some good swing settings).

I don't mean a loop pack, but actual instruments

I wasn't even thinking about loop packs; I can't imagine people seriously using those in the first place although I am aware JayZ or whoever used some apple garageband loop in one of his hits...
Just try things. Like, pick up Synth1 and set it to a pure sine wave and make some 90s westcoast hip-hop.

Kendrick had about 3 on his last album. I just want to get the latest and up to date sound. Ableton sound sucks

>I just want to get the latest and up to date sound.
By the time you imitate the up to date sound, you're already too late. Create your own sound based on your preferences of all the different music you enjoy; make something that only you would make.
Ableton doesn't have a sound unless you're following tutorials and that's it, but that's not Ableton's fault.

Try a workstation plugin like xpand or omnisphere

How do I create my own sound? I know how to do it via samples because that's relatively simple but no idea how else I could

>How do I create my own sound?
It's just what happens naturally by experimenting and using the sounds that appeal to you the most. It doesn't matter if other people who those individual sounds since they're going to combine them with other sounds that are different from the collection of sounds that you will be using.

is there too much bass in this mix?
instaud.io/3U17

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You ever lie back in bed, on the edge of sleep, and you get a musical idea in your head? Make that.

>You never see any electronic musician besides Daft Punk or Justice, or Kraftwerk being nominated for Grammys
Skrillex is the holder of the highest number of grammy awards for an electronic artist.

instaud.io/3U1I

Weinsteinian melodies

BRO!
stop teasing us.
make a full track with this idea.

skrillex is the mozart of our generation user

and Playboi Carti the shakespeare

Curious...why would anyone want to produce with an MPC when you can just use a DAW? Don't you have to use vinyl to sample too?

i'm a part time trapfag and even i don't get that shit
all image man lol

>have to
no

idols use it, it looks cool, the workflow....might appeal to some weird people. some people hate computers or want to be different etc

i think they're stupid but i would still buy one if i had money :^)

It’s about the workflow and muscle memory

>muscle memory
this isnt CS:GO

This is neat considering the poly rhythms. But maybe make them more simple, like one each tho.

aww still on babies first daw i see

why would anyone manually input shit using your hand? i just draw notes in midi

I'm still waiting to buy (some softsynths because I can't find a nice glide bass like those kpop intros) which means that I'm not actively working towards releasing my songs which I've still got to flesh out haha

>I'm still waiting to buy (some softsynths

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you leveled up /prod/bro

It means that your conscious skills are still not on par with your unconscious instincts.
You can either keep making music by "feel" without thinking about the details and make your subconscious do the big part of the work, or you can work on improving your skills so that your music will still be good even if you do everything consciously.

I'm still waiting for brain cells too user, please be patient

>just bought Ableton
>have no motivation
Good use of $350

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>$350

cant fint antares autotune in x32 help
alternatives would b cool 2

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stop trolling

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Well it was an upgrade from Live 9 Intro i bought back in 2014

I used to be a lot better than I am now.

clyp.it/0dpm0yzc

disturbing

Same
instaud.io/3U4r

i like this user. it has the innocence, playfulness, and creative inspiration only seen in pre-Yea Forums projects.

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I like the way you can just directly sample anything with a line-out.
You can pretty much do anything inside one machine without having to deal with 10000 unnecessary and distracting features and the auto-chopping works better than most plugins do imo
Plus working with samples is a lot more intuitive and the machines have a characteristic sound to them.

here's hoping that means I'm getting better

it's not that my conscious stuff sounds *Bad* it's just my subconscious stuff flows so much nicer and sounds so much more creative and... free-er...

I just want to die bros

>buying VSTs
>haha
commit sudoku my mane

As long as there are eurorack spring reverbs, there is always a reason to go on

Mmmm reverb tanks with an ebow

Is that Devon Aoki?
Also Kerovee is free and works alright, you can even control it with midi

>why use ten fingers when you can just use one?

I'll admit I've been producing for like 9 years now and I only recently started actually playing shit real time and then just correcting in the piano roll
( too)

hit record and play something

>why would anyone manually input shit using your hand? i just draw notes in midi
Oh boi I sure hope this is bait

Just buy equipment you don't need and maintain a constant dopamine rush that way

I almost exclusively use presets
guilty

>buying software
lol

So ableton has drum samples called C78. They sound like the CR-78. im just wondering why they named it differently? even the documentation from time ago says CR-78

>maybe make them more simple, like one each tho
i'm sorry but what?

Roland probably has a trademark on the CR-78 name so they had to change it. It could also be a copyright issue. Roland owns the copyright on the specific CR-78 sounds, so Ableton probably wanted to differentiate it in some way so they don't get sued. I'm not a lawyer though.

What oscillator wave shape is best for plucked string sounds? Would it work for any synth?

Dude. I've bought two version of Logic Express and then the version of Logic when they merged them all together and I've never fucking used them. Not a single fucking track. I open the programs and mess around for 15 minutes and then I'm like 'fuck it, this is too much work' and close it never to open it again.
I also bought Reason recently when it was on sale and again, only opened it once and played around for 10-15 minutes.
If you can't import/draw your own wave shape, probably a sine (but it's going to sound way too clean) and then tweak your ADSR envelopes to get the pluck you want.

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White noise with automated comb filter cutoff at max resonance.
Perhaps layered with a sawtooth too (also going through the filter). Try different combinations.

Sometimes I commission cheap album covers on Fiverr just so I can order someone around for a day or two

Best DAW coming through. Kiddies making trap beats can stick with FL Studio and Ableton Live. Real men making real music all know REAPER is the best DAW out there. Only total plebs use something else.

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Kek nice meme
Everyone knows that Reason is the GOAT daw

>Reaper
>reason

>not Ableton + Renoise
lmao

>not dubturbo
imagine wasting the one life you have on shit daws

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>he doesn't tune his kick drum with his bass

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What's that? How does that work?

clyp.it/pt4gslfl

Any feedback

clyp.it/wkk0mb3f i think the structure is about done, can i get some feedback? does it Sound Good? are my ears broken? hot or not? would you fuck this song?

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yea
nd thx man

sometimes the untuned dissonance sounds better, especially in hip hop and old club tracks

only EDMtard obsessively tune their drums

reminds me of Chrono Trigger... enjoyable

> (You)
>sometimes the untuned dissonance sounds better, especially in hip hop and old club tracks
>only EDMtard obsessively tune their drums

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what the fuck are these weird soundcloud accounts with only these "submit your track" things on their profile

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basically spambots, usually have associated scams.

most of the ones i've seen are just bots that send you a link to their play or follow botting sites

It kinda doesn't work imo, but you're getting there. Also trap is lame

Nice. Some of the orchestral stuff doesn't sound completely natural, but it's not too bad. I like it

On a wavetable synth use a karplus-strong table, otherwise saw waves are the traditional old way of doing a string.
This sounds interesting but I can't test it now.

Ar physical clip launchers useless outside Ableton Live?

>implying mere mortals can use dubturbo

>This sounds interesting but I can't test it now.
A keytracked comb filter is basically karplus strong anyway. It just creates the feedback a different way and has some additional parameters you can set depending on the filter.
By adding a fast envelope on the cutoff you can get pretty cool stringy sounds.

thanks. i was trying to actually lean farther into the synthetic sound, but i dont think i quite got there and it sounds awkward in the uncanny valley

spambots. report and block everytime.
>tfw the spambot like didn't get deleted when you blocked them
REEEEE I DONT WANT FAKE LIKES

kek i'm all about dem fake likes. i put as many tags as I can because it seems to attract more bot likes

Not sure if SC works the same way but social media platform generally suggest/show your content to other people based on a mix of stats (number of likes, followers, views, or whatever) and engagement.
If your account has a low follower count and a low number of comments (or whatever users do to engage with you) then the engagement is normal, but if your account has a disproportionately low engagement because of all the fake likes/follows getting too high compared to what they're supposed to be for your engagement level, your content is never gonna get shown to anyone.

So yeah, you don't want fake followers, likes, or anything.
Smaller but genuine stats are always much better for your growth, unless you don't give a shit about that and only want to flex some huge number on venue promoters or some shit like that (which is a bad idea in the long term).

Fun fact: If you want to kill someone's account, buy them fake followers so they get penalized and their content basically gets censored by the algorithm.

hmm I didn't know this. I thought the bot likes would actually make my stuff better preferred by the algo that shows things to people. If SC works like that it would be pretty shitty, since there is no escape from the bots

What if people who follow you/like your stuff don't comment? It sounds like that would be treated just like the bots, yeah? That's not cool either.

bots don't even give you plays most of the time

>since there is no escape from the bots
You can report/block them and it's SUPPOSED to remove the likes but in my case it didn't this one time for some reason. Most of the time when I block/report the likes get removed but this fucker got past the system somehow. I even reblocked him but it didn't work.

Tuning the kick to a key can help the bass and kick work well together in themix

They know that there's a number of people who just watches your content without doing anything. It's accounted for by the algorithm.
It's when this number is disproportionately high that the algorithm penalizes you.

Also, this isn't necessarily to weed out bots, but to weed out content that people aren't engaging with.
The goal of the site is to keep you on there as long as possible, and showing you stuff that people watch and then close isn't as good as showing you content that people are passionate about enough to comment, share, etc.

So it's not that non-engaging humans penalize you because they look like bots, but it's bots that penalize you because they look like non-engaging humans.
It's why youtubers always end with "like, comment, and subscribe, and hit the bell icon so you won't miss any of our videos". All those things help you tremendously, as they tell the algo that people are engaging with your channel.

That's generally how social media sites work, but obviously these algorithms are very complex and I'm sure they all have some bot detenction system that penalizes you even more for it.

I'm working on this tune for some time now. Any feedback appreciated

instaud.io/3Udx

would a native instruments maschine have any application in rock or metal

Still looking for a music partner to make a Justice-style album. Or we can talk the future of electro-pop music. Where do you think Cross album music should go? Do you think being meticulous and surgical about the music is pointless nowadays? Personally, I think that to make a good critically-recognized album you need samples and intricate songwriting with unusual chord progressions. For instance, DVNO is written in almost Bb Dorian mode, but throws in an F#major chord. We need to be creative and come up with a gimmick. Daft Punk have the robots. Justice has the arena rock/glam rock image. I'm thinking ayy lmao get-ups

If you do this remember your kick and bass will reinforce each other so please compress or low shelf to compensate.

>Bb Dorian mode, but throws in an F#major chord
If you think of it that way, no shit it's going to blow your mind and seem special. If you think of it as Gb major, it's just modulating down a whole step (from Ab major) which is some pretty basic bitch shit.
Listen to demoscene music if you want your mind blown with dumb-ass modulations and harmonies.
youtube.com/watch?v=ZZHzAPzR3x0
*I said 'dumb-ass', but this music fucking slaps.

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I like the theme idea, kinda GWAR does STRFKR. No idea what the rest of that shit means though, and didn't MGMT already do a glam alien phase?

I don't know if I would call it best but I use it every day and for $60 it is a goddamn steal

Maybe a demon schtick similar to Ghost BC. All the good ideas are taken it seems. I still think the ayy lmao idea is the best. Classic ayy lmao masks with the first song on the album being a musical response to Daft Punk's "Contact".

I want to start using Reaper, but PreSonus Studio comes with tons and tons of instruments/samples already. Is there a way to import them into Reaper?

probably you would have to use rewire for the instruments I don't know specifically studio one but samples are usually copy protected for the daw

If you're a complete beginner, and just want to screw around and have fun, is a Akai Professional MPK Mini a good investment? I'm willing to spend 100 to start a hobby

I posted earlier with
I cleaned it up a bit and now it's this: instaud.io/3UeL

any suggestions on what to add next?

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noice
>any suggestions on what to add next?
only you know the answer to this

i have maybe 20 files like this, i write these arpeggio/banger style lines and never can progress past this
ideas?

instaud.io/3UeT
whoops heres the file
i made this in the last hour and realized i was just doing the same shit again and switched onto shit that is almost done
so yeah, ideas?

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i do the same sometimes
force yourself to finish a braindead simple song
key of C, pop structure, the works, just finish it

and if you get bored fuck around with it and don't worry if it's shit because it's just practice.

yeah i guess thats the plan
some shit is just dead ends i guess

The end of that sounds like the beginning of a drop, so I suggest dtsrting a new bass line after

very fair, i need a drink, too serious

Idea? Stop what you're doing and join me in making a French house banger record like Cross. You'll learn a lot along the way

ive seen you posting everywhere, your work is cute and id love to collab i just work too much
i can link you my sc if you want to fuck around on something, can't commit to a full record but a few songs is more than doable

Thanks. I'm gonna try this sometime

Hey dude, you're probably quite young so just wanna tell you that literally everything you believe right now is completely wrong. But you're young and will keep believing it until you're older and then you'll be full of regret.

:-)

P.s. justice is trash pop music

is it cool if u cant make out any words that im singing

>singing
no its not cool

what genre of music

like indie whatever genre mgmt, tame impala, idk

what's a decent price for a tascam 424

I claim to be artistic but I just make drone albums by running random guitarsounds through paulstretch in audacity

post a sample

I'm 27. I can't upload to instaud.io.

soundcloud.com/user-121410862/firstsong-wav

Here's what I'm working on. This is just an idea for a first song. I'm proud of the drums. Anyone want to join me?

>DON'T link to Soundcloud

Only synth sound i truly like is the CS-80, so i'm stuck with software cause i'm not a millionaire neet.

My best songs are trap beats

I'm not going to finish my Dreams remix until maybe November this year.

I made it gay lol
clyp.it/zby3grjt?token=a1f77c41396239efc33d193804ab2fb2

what's the best ~$100 mini midi keyboard

cringe

yeah, it makes producing more fun and gives you some feedback i guess
read the pastebin obviously
iirc the mini seems to have more key popping issues than other keyboards, but possibly it's just a more visible problem because it's the most popular keyboard.

i'd rec any normal sized midi controller, used, instead. i got a 69 key for 60 bucks lol. they're pretty much all the same quality wise, just get one with the features you want.

probably not, especially for that genre, that's really only acceptable in like... metal, or anything "hardcore"

amazon.com/Nektar-SE49-49-Key-Controller-Keyboard/dp/B01MF9EJPG/ref=sr_1_15?keywords=midi keyboard&qid=1562298363&s=gateway&sr=8-15

I hide behind dirty/lofi/distorted aesthetics because I don't have the motivation to learn how to mix things properly. I can do it to a certain degree but it's nowhere near professional enough yet so I'd rather make things sound low quality on purpose instead of coming off as just some amateur dude. (the only good things is that I legitimately have always liked the style I hide in so at least I don't slowly die inside as much)

I think it depends, in a lot of post-punk/darkwave you can't really understand the lyrics because of the reverb and shit

how do you produce tho

>I hide behind dirty/lofi
yeah that should definitely be a stylistic choice as opposed to something you're forced to do; there are differences in well and shittily mixed lo-fi as well.

yeah it definitely depends, there are no rules of course lol

I just can't think of a whole lot of non-extreme rock acts that sound that obscured and get a pass.... i'm not heavy into newer darkwave bands but i've noticed the mixes are kind of shit in a way described in the previous post^

idk, i hate that and shit personally.... maybe just because i always compare it to joy division etc and have it in the back of my mind that there need to great lyrics that i can understand to add to the mood of everything.

but indie wise... idk man it just depends, like there are anco lyrics i dig but there are still plenty of songs where i really don't give a fuck what they're saying and it doesn't matter lol

I use the voice memo on my iphone5s.

Can a WHITE person making WHITE person music get a use of one of this?

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thanks

I look at videos like this and I want to do the same. Making music alone is boring. If we could get one killer opening track we'd be set and it's all fun from there

youtu.be/HKMbTG_J7lE

Why wouldn't you? Trent Reznor has used it, if I'm remembering correctly.

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no im just smart and dont care about larping as pete rock

>no im just smart

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bro i made it gay for you and you don't respond

What did Native Instruments mean by this?

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you're pro
like projared

Anybody here use serum?

clyp.it/krbfefry

maybe it tells you witch vowel it'll use?
never touched the thing tho

>bend over

literally fucking everybody

he's referring to the /pol/ meme

please stop posting

I still believe in you !

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Mom! He posted it again!
I prefer your new Justice spammer persona... but this might become a classic.
> (You)
>
>please stop posting

I don't.

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Also there is a preset in one of the NI synth called Cannibals and it's literally an african tribal drums

based
if it was good enough for mozart it's good enough for me

Take it seriously or gtfo.

>tfw always feel overwhelmed whenever i open ableton
>tfw ideas are too difficult for me to actually to act on

I want off this fucking ride

ok i made it gayer
clyp.it/d5vc1rdl?token=5dd54a1aeb4ce6f0e52983e20f2bfe5c

made this for my friend's CS frag video so he'd have some OC music for it and so I could shill my "music"
instaud.io/3Uhd
Let me know what you think.

I know the feeling but I only use LMMS. I can't even go through all the different instruments to find ones I like and use together and by the time I find something I lost a lot of the melody ideas I had. Had the same issues with Finale. Just now listened to some stuff I made last night and realized why it sucks and how to fix it so I'm backingup the old copy under "songname_garbage" and moving it to a different folder and working on the copy but it's 1 am here and I need to get up early tomorrow but if I go to bed I'll forget it.

This is why it's better with two people. If you have a mutual sound goal, like Cross, then you can tell each other when some element of the song doesn't match the quality we want.

I think I will use Contact by DP as the intro, but tomorrow I'll make it go a little grungier and darker.

>instaud.io/3Uhd
That snare sound makes me want to destroy the world.

feels like there's so muh to learn brehs, I'm tired of stagnating. I need money for plug-ins and a new PC that won't crash after playing 4 tracks. Fuck. I'm sick of being garbage at this music shit. I don't fucking get how I'm so shit. Fuck

If you want to keep it retro, but solve try using the Oberheim DMX snare.

What kind of music are you trying to make?

hip hop/house atm

just look through everything before you get any ideas

Perfect. Forget about plugin-ins and a new PC. Just rely 100% on samples and use a tracker to make your music.
github.com/schismtracker/schismtracker/releases

clyp.it/odjcyvrh

Trying to do things that are more simple/hip-hop-y. I have a difficult time figuring out structure but I've realized that even a lot of Kanye and Tyler's beats mostly loop. Even Madlib loops. I just can't figure out how it's done, or rather how to do it in a DAW. I don't understand how even an album as simplistic as ye can have these super bare songs that repeat yet manage to not sound as repetitive as an average trap beat.

youtube.com/watch?v=TrQ7w1bdNvY
youtube.com/watch?v=DSY7u8Jg9c0
youtube.com/watch?v=qatEUlouf0o

Or how music elements and chords can be present without the song sounding too "full", it sits perfectly beneath the drums, the drums are always in the spotlight. Is it really just the mixing? When I level both in the Mixer and step sequencer I still can't get that sound, the closest is when I keep the instruments in Mono, but they sound like shit in Mono. Even with Tyler's shit with a lot of chords and focus on musical elements the main focus is still on the drums/low end. they stand out more than everything else.

youtube.com/watch?v=-moD04SBtLs
youtube.com/watch?v=xE8ekMTvYMA
youtube.com/watch?v=1yS1ay045B4
youtube.com/watch?v=K0dl_64BxZs

alright, thanks. I'll check it out.
Yeah that snare does sound kinda awful.

>Kanye and Tyler's beats mostly loop. Even Madlib loops
that shit's all hand played by a producer, or sampled from something live- so very good performances that make amazing loops.... also things that are changing may be subtle: obviously different instruments or doubled layers added, but a mic position, reverberated "space" delays etc etc. also mix shit in general like taking away a highpass for a section that sounds bigger.... i mean all of that is really mixing 101 for most genres but it's doubly important when the music itself is being looped and needs to maintain interest

also they're not shitty 4 bar loops, it's more like 16 of something continuously changing, no copy paste bullshit

....good job simplifying your drums though, the synths are actually decent, overall still too repetitive though. how you ended it should have been the way you end a "loop" to break up the structure a bit. i don't think i've responded to you for a few months lol

daily reminder that fruityloops is for faggots.
speaking of faggotry, what is this manual you speak of? will it make me more gay to the point where im making shit like skrillex?

is their any kind of 'chord highlighter' for ableton?

alt-f4

dickhead

i get half lower output latency in reaper than in cubase what gives

is "The Musician's Guide to Theory and Analysis" anywhere on the internet? it's not in libgen, audioz, b-ok nor any torrent site that I know of

>speaking of faggotry, what is this manual you speak of? will it make me more gay to the point where im making shit like skrillex?
Yes, but only new Skrillex.
It won't teach you to make his old dubstep stuff.

Why would you need a manual for a specific genre? Isn't music theory enough to make music in any genre?

Is this a real question you want answered?

Yes

First of all not everyone knows music theory to the point of being able to use it for any style of music they hear, so the dance music manual book also includes a music theory chapter (remember it's aimed at beginners).
And second, knowing music theory only helps with the composition aspect of music, not the production, which is the main part of Dubstep or other production-oriented genres.

Do you really think someone who's a world-leading expert in music theory and composition can easily make a Dubstep song?
Of course not, because they'd need to also learn about all the technology used, the sound design, and the production techniques involved in making a Dubstep song.

what is "music theory"? Production techniques are part of that as well as scales and chords

So when people say music theory you think of everything involved in the production of a record, from composition to recording to sound design, to mixing and mastering?
Do you also consider the album cover music theory?

That doesn't make any sense.
When you asked this >Why would you need a manual for a specific genre? Isn't music theory enough to make music in any genre?
You meant
>Why would you need a manual for a specific genre? Isn't knowing everything about music production enough to make music in any genre?
correct?

>Do you also consider the album cover music theory?
please don't be retarded. Everything that has an influence on how music sounds is part of the field of music theory, of course. Otherwise you have to draw an arbitrary line. Acoustic and construction of music instruments as well as synthesizers and their functions are part of that, too, of course.

Literally nobody intends music theory as everything pertaining music.
It's always intended as everything pertaining the composition, as in the notes you use.

>Otherwise you have to draw an arbitrary line.
Lmao

so it's composition theory

You don't actually believe that.
You're just saying it because you realized how stupid your initial question here was, and tried to justify it with an even dumber semantics argument that tries to redefine the words you used to make them make sense.

this has got to be to be the most autistic thing i read all week

>It's always intended as everything pertaining the composition, as in the notes you use.
actually that's your perception. Just look up the curriculum of musicology on any university

I'm not even the guy you argued with, I just saw your statement and thought it was wrong
>this has got to be to be the most autistic thing i read all week
how so? where is the line between music theory and other fields of music 'science' then? If you read books about e.g. temperations and the effect of certain intervals and tunings on the impact of a composition you'll see that it's arbitrary and not practical to restrict 'music theory' to chords and scales (or whatever personal restricition you have in mind, I don't even know how to do that)

What things are called in academia isn't necessarily how things are called colloquially in real life by normal people.

I'm aware that Music Theory CAN encompass a lot of things, but you can't use a relatively obscure use of a word when people will inevitably understand what you said as the more common use. That's how language works.
We can sit here all day arguing "but technically it means this too", but at the end of the day outside of academia music theory is everything pertaining composition, NOT everything pertaining music making in general.
In all my years making music I've only heard music theory used like that in academic settings, and never once outside of it (before today, that is).
Especially in the field of music production where the term "music theory" is used to distinguish the composition side from the production side.

this is the dunning kruger of autism
too autistic to realize that you're autistic

>What things are called in academia isn't necessarily how things are called colloquially in real life by normal people.
now thas is autisitic lmao... If there's any compass on what terminology you should use to be taken serious then it's the common agreement of the academic world. 'Normal people', lmao. The way you and your friends talk about things has no significance in the real world whatsoever.

Ok, you're right user.

>when normal people talk they shouldn't use the words that normal people use, but instead they should use the impractical terminology that normal people won't understand, in order to be technically correct from an academic point of view, even though it makes the conversation impossible to understand

Please respond to this

>they should use the impractical terminology that normal people won't understand
so you're saying just because you don't understand the concept anybody else should take a step down and adjust the terminology to your level? If I use wrong terminology I'm happy if someone points out to me that there is a correct way to say it. Academic terminology has a purpose, namely to be precise and to have a broad consensus.
>even though it makes the conversation impossible to understand
maybe you're just too retarded, and the 'normal people' you're talking to are as well. Should wikipedia adjust it's language to 'normal people', too?

By the way, we were originally talking about what 'music theory' is until you started the stupid argument whether 'normal people' should talk a different language than 'academic people' to be understood. Would you consider these topics part of 'music theory' or not?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_relation
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_temperament
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hindemith#Musical_system

These are all concepts that are primarily of acoustic nature but that have a major impact of composition technique. What I'm trying to show is that any seperation of these topics is arbitrary, not practical and also not done by anyone but you

>missing the point this hard

any tips to trap melodies aside from making more melodies?
pierre's melodies for carti seem so simple but they're engaging as fuck

I wonder what it's like to have this low of an IQ...
Must be a pretty carefree existence I imagine

...

>instaud.io/3TVR
I like the composition, and although i know you're going for a chiptune/retro vibe I don't like the instrumentation. Could go better as a vaporwave style arrangement with higher resolution sounds.

this board have a hardware thread?

There were attempts at establishing a hardware general but the OP of those threads flipped out because two anons argued about something and stopped doing the threads. Now we only get one occasionally and it's usually just some dude spamming modular toy pictures he grabbed off some gear forum, refusing to ever post a clip

So Reaper loses it's audio when i alt tab out. how do get audio back to it

Is it even possible to make vocal chops not sound like shitty future bass?

instaud.io/3UmJ

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What cheap microphones can I use for punk backing vocals?

no

New thread when?

Not really, but if you try really hard to establish you're in another genre before you introduce the chop then at least people will realize you were trying to make different sounding future bass.

NEW THREAD

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this