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George Russell - Electronic Sonata for Souls Loved by Nature

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this i guess

been meaning to listen to this as olatunji's a favorite of mine; how'd you get a hold of it and how's the album?
nice

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I see this user has great taste in guitar players.

I probably got it on slsk, it's great

thanks, been trying to build a jazz guitarist repertoire lately. pic is some good shit.
nice to hear I'll have to listen to it

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Great album, ask the ages too

space ghost tho

youtube.com/watch?v=76LorzoK834

on my list, also i just found out about last exit which seems pretty exciting

they are very exciting

yo anyone else ruin their underwear when they heard John Mclauglin on this album?

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is clean feed the best current jazz label

daaamn how fast he tootin in that picture?

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remember when this cover art was a meme in like 2014?

Probably

what comes to mind if I said "classic album with the loudest cymbals"?

It's really comfy and cloudy today, so I'll be starting Mal Waldron's discography

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I will continue to shill this album until it catches on.

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Maybe if you’re gay

so cool that the thread still survives. I won't be able to post much till later tonight cause I have to go get a haircut and birthday gift for my mom, then do dinner/cake/presents, then go to NA. We are celebrating my birthday too so it should be pretty fun. I have a little bit of whiskey left for the end of the day when I get back to the thread, if it survives. My phone isn't working so I won't be able to bump on the go today. Anyway listening to pic related. It's pretty cool. Almost feels like proto-typical of what you think about when you think of a saxophone if that makes any sense. I like it anyway.

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Assuming the guy who was interested in Brecker was still here... Two best albums are definitely the self titled The Beefier Brothers - kills it on both the EWI and sax, and Steps Ahead - Magnetic, features David Brecker for most of it I believe. Really in love with the ewi, fills a niche that I didn't know I needed, and makes me want to go out and buy one myself.

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*The Brecker Brothers. Auto correct because I'm a dumb mobile poster today.

listening to three waves by steve kuhn trio. absolutely love when he plays behind the beat. his playing is so engaging, especially on the tile track youtube.com/watch?v=IzI-gDdJk8Y

I am still here. Just got back from my errands. I love EWIs too and want one. I also want a regular sax but my dream is to program my own synths and play them with an EWI.

My foot is killing me. I burned it making mash potatoes the other day and now the thing is infected and I'm limping around.

Spinning this, but skipping Naima.

It's the best jazz-album of all time imo. I can never get enough of this.

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I'm not sure so I don't wanna say most underrated, but I feel like this is a very underrated Miles Davis album. I always have a good time with it and the drums are bitchen.

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dumb question here but was just generally interested, how do jazz musicians improvise off a melody or whatever in a song when they dont play the actual melody in the start, like they just improvise right off the bat?

an example of this is coltrane in countdown, after the drums finish he just starts freestyling and it sounds actually cohesive, whats the theory behind this?

this album is pretty good seems a bit underrated on RYM

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I'm just as clueless as you, but maybe the "circle of 5ths" has something to do with it. I have no idea of how it works, but it's something like you input a note and the circle shows you what to play after that note and it will sound good.
Again, I'm no expert in this

no expert either but my understanding is that there are different methods of soloing based on choosing notes either from chords being used or scales or modes. I imagine they use the confines of those and then make melodic phrases as they see fit, also they can employ chromatic notes outside the scale in passing to add color.

It's a combination of all of these things. If you have a really good knowledge of music theory you can pretty much improvise entire cohesive songs. Alternatively alot of musicians just practice to the point where they get a sort of intuitive feel for their instrument and what sounds will go nicely together.

listening to the best live jazz album of all time, of course

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first, if you by practice and intuition have a sense of harmony, relations, rhythm, and phrasing, of structure, of beginning, ending, of passage, then you can continuously transform something, maintaining some ideal of the original as you progress and keeping a consistent set of transformations to reinforce your own phrasings and the relationship to the original.

its creativity, experience , technique.
a 'theoretical' underpinning could provide more doors and relations, to set up a possible structure when composing, or help make sense of things after the fact.

but that's just how I roll.
bye.

fuck off jtg

if you're playing a melodic instrument, you can sound cohesive as long as you stay in the same scale and key as the rhythm instruments. let's suppose you composed a song and you want a guitarist to jam a solo over it. you'll tell him "hey, this song is in B myxolidian", so the guy (supposing he knows some basic music theory) will immediately know that playing the notes in pic related is enough to sounding cohesive.

sounding cohesive is not everything though. the best solos of all times didn't get their name thanks to people randomly playing notes inside a scale. some even add extra notes that are outside of the original/intended scale. take this vid for instance youtube.com/watch?v=P8Deg3Nf7y8 he's the perfect example of doing "just enough" to sound cohesive, but the solo is very mediocre. you can find tons of mediocre melodic sections on most jazz.

I'm not expert on this matter though, I still don't know how jam bands get to coordinately change key/modality in the middle of improvisation.

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can't wait to check this out.

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coltrane in particular pioneered a type of "modality" that is being able to choose alternate keys based on each chord being used not just relying on the decided key of the entire section

I don't think he had a name for it but it im pretty sure its the same as this:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydian_Chromatic_Concept_of_Tonal_Organization

I didn't go to school for any of this maybe a smarter more well versed person can explain further

In a half hour I go to my NA meeting and I wont be back till after 9, and even then I might have to do cake and shit with my parents, so it's up to you guys to keep this comfy thread alive unless you want a new thread when I get back. I wanna listen to this and other complete sessions of Miles Davis but I'm having a hard time making myself do it cause part of me want to save it for when I have narcotics, but I probably wont have that for a very long time and I know that that shouldn't matter so I'm trying to do the right thing and listen anyway. I only have a very small amount of whiskey though so I might find something shorter to listen to for that tonight and just listen to the sessions when im straight sober.

the fact that Cartoon netwokr actually got Sharrock to soundtrack their first show is hilarious

dude you should not plan on never using opiates its really not good for your brain, mood, everything really, completely detrimental. I think if anything after you get a few years past it, possibly explore psychedelics they are 100% safe but it may also not be a good idea for an addict to get fast an loose with their frame of mind

yeah I 100% substitute one drug for another. Like when I couldnt get opiates or coke I started doing acid everyday and eventually ketamine. You are right. I sometimes tell myself, "the path to enlightenment is though practice, not drugs, the kingdom of heaven is within."