So was vaporwave the peak of post-modernism in music?
So was vaporwave the peak of post-modernism in music?
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It was the peak of civilization
Yeah
closer to the bottom
Like the art - would be fine with the music if the songs weren’t so damn long
Not sure if it was the peak of post modernism but it has always been an interesting genre to follow. not the first music genre to be born and raised far outside the control of the music industry but it's maybe the first within the context of the internet both in medium and subject
ITT
nobody on Yea Forums knows what postmodernism is thanks to kermit
it was the peak of gay sex
Audio fedora
vaporwave is megalopolitan rootlessness the art form, nothing could be more degenerate than uglifying classical art out of context and hedonistically dosing up on opiates or other narcotics while you sit in your shipping crate cuck apt with your two faggot xanax addicted roommates listening to macintosh plus. /pol/ is enamored with it for the same reason they love robocop and 80s bully movies, they’re vapid fantasia obsessed niggers of the Kwa like every other insect that crawls across the rotting Irminsul trunk of the ancient world. Everything about /pol/ is decadent, the manic thread speed, the indiscriminate propagandizing with no standards for recruitment, the massive number of pedophiles and moe anime fans brought into their fold, the opportunistic prison sexuality which encourages homosexuality and traps, the tribal coalescing around RNC and Fox news totally memory holing Murdoch and the Adelson-Bechtel-Koch-Coors controlled RNC leadership. fucking animals is all they’ll ever be and vaporwave is the schizogenic nigger ensemble of the pre-death vision stream our culture is facing. its the dreg heap, the great garvage patch at the end of the subconscious, nothing pure, nothing holy, nothing that transcends itself, there is no natural innocence (in the most violent sense of that word) in remixing dead aesthetics with stillborn art (corporate). Its fascist because fascists are debased husks. People who listen to vaporwave are addicts, they are emulsified in Soma, in narcissistic social media experiences. they are blurry eyed barely sentient pussy entrained, brain entrained, totally submissive zoo animals. Chad is just another color to fly when you’re hiding in the rubble of your bombed out necropolis, Berlin is YouTube is Twitter is the election and we’re all crawling across the rubble, little beetles and cockroaches come to devour lichen, the bacterial colonies that spring up after calamities. 2012 really did happen and Trump is the beginning of the End.
*tips vaporwave song* LMAO (Laughs my freaking ass offf)
(Captcha: Bicycle's and fire hydrants)
vaporwave is a juicey cheese burger topped with lettuce mayo tomats egg bacon more bacon more bacon more bacon more bacon more bacon more bacon more bacon more bacon more bacon more bacon more bacon more bacon more bacon more bacon more bacon more bacon more bacon more bacon more bacon more bacon !!!!!!!!!!
As a Polish person, I can honestly say, myself and my country love treasure and honor this genre and style of music. Dziękuję Ci.
you go to meet one of their "guests" of a musical event and they tell you that their name is "cuck". the cuck is literally your uncle. he has the balls and the talent of your parents. you go in to that club and immediately feel your ass being licked like it is on a fucking stripper pole. it makes you feel like a sicko. he starts talking ass shit about you like you are a loser, that you haven't been out all night and that you are just being a faggot who only listens to bad music. you're the only one who's listening. the cuck goes through a period of deep introspection about your life and his relationship to women and you realize that your own father had similar things happen to him and that the cuck was going through his own shit. at first you're pissed about it, but when you realize the cuck didn't care or he couldn't see it coming you realise that he was fucking you. you realize he doesn't care that you're gay and all of a sudden you're going to be the next victim of being faggotized and faggotized into a person with no life experience and you go to him and tell him you don't love him or your mom. the cuck goes mad at you. he tries to kill himself but eventually decides to take that step himself when he has no other option.
In the present world of cultural nostalgia, idealised consumerism and online immediacy, the internet has self-represented itself in the dualism between being both catalyser and disparager of capitalism. Whilst on one hand offering a platform for the business expansion of multinational enterprises, through the creation of new sales and marketing channels that allow industries to massify the scope of their activities, online media has on the other hand, provided an incubator for cultural and artistic activism that criticises the aesthetics and obsessions of contemporary capitalistic society.
This was the case for the internet, as expressed through social media like Reddit or Twitter, when it sought to undermine the very basis for the market of the art form that had previously been the product of the intellectual and creative work of a specific and limited number of artists.
The internet, when it comes to the internet culture of art, is a haven for russia-fied Nazi-Soviet hybrid-cuck tribalist politics, the constant fucking with the internet, the pathetic social media adulation, the constant, endless, endless trolling and the ever escalating and escalating wars, the constant fucking with the internet even when no one is responding, and of course, all the shit going on with the Obama administration , with the NSA surveillance scandals, cyber-war hysteria and the fucking with the entire planet like a fucking war zone. That's why if you want anything to be true you have to listen to music. And of course, I've heard too much about all of this to fucking be able to think about anything except how fuck-shit awesome it is to be a dick. It's pretty fucking good.
This is where I think of the future of music and music itself as a fucking game, something to be played, a game which will have some sort of "game play" element to it, but which ultimately cannot be expected to be objectively analysed, understood or judged, because it will not even be possible to try for that. It will be just another fucking genre of music made in a studio, by a bunch of people who have fucked up their fucking life and have not learned any lessons. But, you know: we get that the next great, exciting thing will be so fucking fucking great it might as well be right around the corner and it's still fucked up.
You are fucking screwed.
On the vanguard of such movements one finds vaporwave, an internet-born subcultural music genre, that offers critique and satire to the commodification of modern life and nostalgia, through its appropriation an
d manipulation of 80’s pop
and Muzak music. Canadian producer
Blank Banshee’s
second album
Blank Banshee 1
(2013), while blending sonic elements of hip-hop production, is one of the many examples of
the genre’s creative criticism
of the corporatization of the western world. The aim of this essay is to analyse the emergence of vaporwave and contextualize the genre within postmodernism. It shall firstly provide an overview
of the genre’s characteristics and background, and it will subsequently examine
the political and social messages that the associated artists are trying to convey, relating these to the conceptual framework of postmodern theory. Finally, the essay shall exemplify the relation between vaporwave and postmodernism through an analysis of the sonic and iconographic elements of the hexalogy of films created by Blank Banshee for the promotion of
Blank Banshee 1
(2013).
Due to the internet subcultural origins and anonymity of the genre, it is difficult to assess an accurate starting date for the emergence of vaporwave (Tanner, 2015, p. 12). There is however common consensus in the music press, that Daniel
Lopatin’s
and James Ferraro’s
records
Chuck Person's Eccojams Vol. 1
(2010) and
Far Side Virtual
(2011), are respectively, the first works to display the characteristics that are frequently associated with the genre (Beauchamp, 2016). The former two albums sample iconic
80’s and 90’
s pop songs and Muzak commercial background music, and transform the original tracks through electronic music techniques such as pitch transposition, compression, slowing down the tempo, and looping. Unlike other sample-based electronic music genres however, vaporwave is moreover characterized by abrupt and odd editing, and the display of artificial glitches in the production process.
This entry will, on the other hand, concentrate on the specific cultural effects produced by this musical expression. This essay is also intended to help in
the formation of an alternative perspective and to present the potential of electronic music to challenge and critique contemporary society. A discussion of some of the conceptual issues related to the emergence of vaporwave is presented,
including a discussion of the possible origins of it and its role in an anti-modernist musical genre. Vaporwave is used to demonstrate the extent to which the use of
a form of music can generate a new, experimental or even revolutionary direction for a society based around a sound; this new direction can be used to create something entirely new within
preference-systems-based forms of consumption. It is through the act of experimenting with a form of music, for example, that we create new contexts in which we can enjoy and learn.
Somewhere between this new context that arises from listening to a sound or watching a video, we create a space for a new experience. This space includes things that are unfamiliar, places that are unfamiliar, and things that are seemingly familiar within the context. We can construct new spaces with this experience, new forms of awareness, that are so different from how things are normally seen, heard or processed that we do not even consider what might be new, yet they are.
As we can see through what we learn from hearing and hearing and seeing, that which we would not expect to find within the visual world, in terms of the visual world itself, is new and interesting. We see that the shape of something, what it looks like in some ways, looks different when seen from different angles compared to just seeing from a few hundred feet away, compared to being shown from an absolute height, compared to sitting in front of a TV monitor, compared to virtual reality.
The major correlation between postmodern theory and vaporwave however, can be traced to Frederic Jameson’s definition of postmodernism as a culture that is determined by “the complacent play of historical allusion”. According to Jameson, postmodernism is marked by the artistic style of pastiche, quotations and “cultural production born out of previous culture production” Consequently, it can be upheld, that vaporwave artists, by sampling, compiling and manipulating original songs, and creating new content through the appropriation of pre-existing commercial music, fully embrace the use
of creative techniques that are predominant in Jameson’s definition of
postmodernism. Nonetheless, what is paradoxical about vaporwave as postmodern art, is that despite using the artistic methods that are criticized by Jameson, the genre aims at producing pastiche that undermines the commodification of culture and the past, elements of contemporaneity that are also disparaged by the cultural theorist. The latter argues that postmodernism is the cultural dominant of multinational capitalism
and his critique of the ‘nostalgia film’
reflects the consequential cultural obsession with reminiscence of the past in present-day artistic productions, a fixation which never translates into a real portrayal, but
instead a stereotyped representation, or a baudrillardian simulation, of the past
actually vaporwave was invented by BoC and DJ screw
Care to define what makes something post-modern?
Based schizo
recontextualizing?
Post-
/pōst/
prefix
prefix: post-
after in time or order.
"postdate"
Origin
from Latin post ‘after, behind’.
Mod·ern
/ˈmädərn/
adjective
adjective: modern
1.
relating to the present or recent times as opposed to the remote past.
"the pace of modern life"
synonyms: present-day, contemporary, present-time, present, current, twenty-first-century, latter-day, recent, latest
"in modern times"
After modern time? I suppose, but Vaporwave seems to primarily focus on the past
That's modernism. "Make it new"
that's not quite right
but it's all semantics anyway
In a 2011 interview, new music was described as “post-internet,” an attempt to put a name on the unique experience of discovering and making music in the digital age. “The music of my childhood was really diverse because I had access to everything,”, putting into words something an entire generation raised on Napster, SoulSeek, LimeWire, and other file-sharing programs was beginning to realize they had in common. To young producers, “everything” quickly proved to be a winning formula as the internet compressed every imaginable genre of music into an easily accessible folder.
Floral Shoppe first surfaced online and everything about it felt utterly incomprehensible. Credited to the mysterious Macintosh Plus, it was festooned in garish Pepto Bismol-pink art with mint green Japanese type, a glossy cityscape, and a marble bust staring vacantly upward —the music inside only made less sense. Cheesy saxophones melted into ooze, easy listening skipped and tripped over itself like a buffering YouTube video, and vaguely human voices were slowed into breathy, bland moans. The first time I hit play in the spring of 2012, it stopped me in my tracks. I stared at my iPhone wondering if it was broken or if the file was corrupted. It sounded like the musical equivalent of a computer virus, as if all the exciting ideas at the time about “post-internet” music had soured and gone flat.
By no conventional logic should Floral Shoppe have made it beyond the deep-internet realms it emerged from. But like candy-colored mold, its power has rapidly spread while its then-teenage creator Ramona Xavier, the Portland artist now known as Vektroid, has remained an elusive figure, simultaneously a pioneer and an outlier. Her album remains one-of-a-kind in its depiction of anxiety and crisis rendered through waves of numbness that range from deeply unsettling to artificially ecstatic. Now approaching its 10th anniversary, Floral Shoppe stands as a touchstone of millennial art. Every year the world slips a little further into chaos, it only seems to make more sense.
Vaporwave, the genre Floral Shoppe came to define, is music designed to be ignored. Often built from corporate Muzak samples, it lingers in your perception, the way something might flicker in the corner of your eye. If Brian Eno conceived ambient music as something one could choose to focus on or comfortably let slide into the background, vaporwave turns that prescriptive power against the listener. It pushes you out with banality only to pull you back in, creating a trancelike state truer to the grind of daily life. As critic and early vaporwave champion Marvin Lin wrote in 2012, “It doesn’t matter whether or not you think you’re heard ‘vaporwave’ before. Trust me, you have—in hotel lobbies, in the opening sequence of a training video, over the phone waiting for a customer service representative.” For a younger generation raised in an increasingly corporatized music culture looking to rebel, creating a self-sustaining, defiantly unmarketable scene of literal Muzak feels like one of the most punk acts of this era, even if the music was anything but.
It all stands as a reminder that for the tremendous power Floral Shoppe commands, it was the work of a very talented young producer finding her voice and at times its reception threatened to overwhelm that voice. Though Vektroid has reimagined and fleshed out some of her early work, Floral Shoppe remains untouched and the Macintosh Plus moniker hangs on the shelf for good reason. Nothing could change or improve its sound which, even after thousands of soundalikes, has lost none of its perception-shattering power. Its ability to channel personal ennui, despair, isolation, hope, and stupefying overstimulation into a new musical language once felt like looking at a funhouse mirror, but years later feels as crisp as an iPhone selfie. The thing about growing up in the heyday of internet file-sharing is that for all the isolation it instilled, it was easy to forget that there really was a person on the other end of the screen. We were separated, but connected, in the same paradoxical way that makes Vektroid’s masterpiece as personal as a diary and as universal as a meme. Floral Shoppe is no longer just hers, it belongs to an entire generation.
Yea, somewhat sums up my feelings about it too.A Shallow fad for talentless attention lacking mind-children.
You don’t even know what post-modernism is, you fucking mongoloid.
You probably fantano, too . . .
Don’t you?
spot on analysis of today's condition
This is the flat earth theory of vaporwave.
Most humans on Earth, 92% to be exact, are not even aware vaporwave exists.
of the other 8% who do, only 0.007% belong to a small group still holding on to the notion that "vaporwave is a shallow fad", "lacks merit" and or otherwise is "only enjoyed ironically"
Looking back...
personally I think it was the peak of ALL music
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kermit?
Truly a fool hardy notion peddled by pea brained imbeciles
>implying
wash your penis
>imp
>lying
i dont have one
as a 93 year old man I am on here tonight as luck would have it, coming by to give my praises to: James faro! ONe trick ! Vektron! blake blake! drip 200148, king coke and so many many more who have shaped and molded this brilliant use of my invention (digital synth interface)
People need to understand
Vaporwave is a way of life for some of us
some of us eat silicon chip
this shit sucks but I'm gonna try to make some money off of it
that brief window of time where tumblr girls, weebs, and soundcloud rap normies got into vaporwave aesthetics was crazy
the time when people were calling shit like mac demarco vaporwave, drake flirts with the aesthetic in hotline bling video, yung lean plays with it, that simpsonswave bullshit happens, mtv does vaporwave bumpers, anime geeks and gamers get real into it, youtube middle school comedy channels like h3h3 promote it. like 2015-17. weird time.
>was
It's changing and is still going strong, don't listen to the niggers and boomers it's not dead it's just finding it's footing.
>finding it's footing.
I don't think it ever will but that's what I like about it, people are always trying new things and trying to push the genre in new directions
it won't stop. but continue to evolve and branch out as some of the mainstays grow and other new artists enter the scene. The old tropes may die off because vaporwave never had a definition to begin with but the unsigned unfettered underground will always exist, even if we stop calling it vaporwave. Where else will mainstream pop get it's ideas?
resurgence of white culture
I always thought post-modernism meant pulling old art shit out of context and recontextualizing it. if not old shit than just the shit that is around you. it is an amalgam of ideas but hardly an idea itself.
aight bet u right but what else you wanna *do*
it feels good to have hoes it's true
drugs is just another way to try something new
some take it too far and never land but shit come to think of noone ever even had a pad to dip in anyway
>mtv does vaporwave bumpers
huh?
who are some current new vaporwave artists? or just artists contributing to the genre in general?
I say that because future funk is finally doing more with the genre, and it's night and day. It went from 4 second loops of a 80's jap pop song to Unibeat's origins which sounds like funky soul music with glitchy vibes.
I don't think it's really that postmodern. There's nothing about it that's really relativistic or anti-axiom. It's just music that takes advantage of nostalgia. Honestly I think people kinda narrativized it later as a critique of capitalism, when really it celebrates capitalism.
this is nothing new you absolute troglodyte try-hard - vaporwave is the idealization of the past, re-contextualized for the present. the baroque artists did this, the renaissance artists did this, the classicists most certainly did this, you are speaking absolute hogshit
also, i know it's bait, but it must be said
You mean people still slowing down 80s music like Mac Plus? well nobody really, It's a virtual zeitgeist it's a got no identifiable form, hence the name, vaporwave
Was this a big money move on Arizona™s part?
positive electrons
unibe@t
light bending in
sangam
just to name the ones I personally like,
youtube.com
Vapor Memory's youtube channel is the biggest so it gets releases first, they are probably a more accurate representation of what's new and who's new to the scene.
It was a big power move since they finally identified their audience; poor college age kids who like vapor wave.
and need water to live
The thing they love + The thing they need =
Vapor Water
Yea Forums had a vaporwave collab once
My parents are asleep, I've been awake for 42 hours, i'm about to install this. So long cruel 3.1.
honestly after hip hop conquered the music industry vaporwave felt like the first white genre in a long time
LMAO I've swam in the Neptune pool before
Awesome post
go to sleep pad
pretty sure that Julia Morgan's san simeon . .
its just bad music dude
Hearst Castle foo
by 'foo' do you mean OH SHIT I GOOGLED HOW WRONG I WAS BUT NOT IN TIME TO STOP POSTING LIKE A LITTLE BITCH?
just curious
This is butt. Bigger butt. Yeah this is the best place for a great nice breakfast and a good way to get to know your friends
Back to the usual except starting tomorrow I’m down at the Boston terminals. Yeah that’s pretty awesome I wanna live in a big city and a great place to be
cool.
soundcloud.com
You're in a room with dirty mid-century wallpaper, tearing in every direction. Dimly lit in the center a lone phonoplayer sits. No doors. The walls are moving as if they're breathing in and out. With each breath sound reflects more and more. Scribbles that resemble foreign text float around like dust.
One of the many rooms to explore within Nethernet Hotel, enjoy your stay!
A shart so unexpected it rattled the world the very foundation we have built our lives on
Spicy food wave LMAOOOOOOOOooOoOoOOooooooO
Vaporwave built its foundation in the early parts of the 21st century
"No."
Oh I see you're fagging out
should I post 'seething' or do you want to?
Nethernet Hotel is a skyscraper that hangs in the heavens of the internet. All websites that die are reserved a room, an explorable embodiment of that site. Top floors are reserved for the innocent sites, the early establishment of the internet itself. The lower you go you witness the most sadistic acts of human and the internet has to offer. At the very bottom is a door that displays endless fields of borken CRT monitors. Everywhere is a purple cloudy haze. Nethernet Hotel is ran by both Vapor Dave and Dark Nasty. Vapor Dave upkeeps the hotel while Dark Nasty the psychopomp governs who and what is allowed within the hotel.
A few pea minded mug heads may disagree but the genre itself has been the most influential genre of the last 200 years in terms of sheer man power driving the momentum forward and ever onward and upward to such great unimaginable heights we dreamed of a utopia in the cloud that we could all build together and now that we have finally made peace with our demons we find ourselves locked in a dance of contradiction and lies thinly veiled in tar and
>vaporwave
>
Lmao, awesome meme my dude, some people actually think vaporwave is like... not good or something. It's hilarious. fucking nerds.
You should put your mouse in your ass to say hi to it's flesh and bone cousins and then use your sphincter muscles to navigate to goatse cx
I had a similar experience when my friend had showed me the same album, with it also being my first experience with vaporwave, I found it very repetitive and otherwise boring/annoying as a result. The rather haunting "chorus" of the first track stuck with me though, and I found myself enjoying it more and more as it replayed in my head.
It did everything it was supposed to in the sense of "vaporwave" being a marketing term for advertisements, and as such advertisements have a way of sticking with you and giving you an acquired taste for them.
Just think of how many company jingles you can recite, just off the top of your head.
it's all very poignant
So what we get drunk
So what we smoke weed
We're just having fun
We don't care who sees
So what we go out
That's how it's supposed to be
Living young and wild and free
completely reddit opinion my good sir
there's somethin brewin.
and i've been saying it for years god damn it
SOMETHIN'S BREWIN!!!!!
i prefer hypnagogic pop
No. Bubblegum Bass is.