Post-punk > punk

>no pere ubu, this heat, chrome, swell maps
>first issue above metal box or flowers of romance

The first Siouxsie album is definitely punk, the rest can belong under the post punk umbrella imo. Bauhaus might be too goth to truly be post punk though, even if both genres histories are tied they had definitely crossed the line by then

Like half the tracks on The Scream are straight up glam influenced punk songs with zero experimentation. Real Life is mostly power pop with goofy synths. The entire second half of First Edition sans Fodderstompf is all punk songs too. Most of those albums cross into being straight up punk a lot. Interzone on Unknown Pleasure, I Am The Fly on Chairs Missing, I Found That Essence Rare on Entertainment!

Picking late 70s art punk albums to represent post-punk is retarded because most of those bands still just considered themselves punk. All those albums are still pretty close to the original punk sound. Hell back in the 70s it wasn't too uncommon for punk bands that weren't particularly artsy to include an experimental song or two on a record
youtu.be/ZkraREW3sUM

for me it's these albums

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I don't think you know what post-punk is

Its a retroactive term invented in the late 90s to describe a loose movement of punk and new wave adjacent bands that produced experimental rock music.

>uhh this isn't even punk, it's 50's rock n roll played really fast

kino is slavic boomer music

If you had to use a single genre to categorize them under, wouldn't you still pick post-punk? Most of these albums are artists rooted in punk trying to distance themselves from established genre trappings. They're post-punk because they all split off in their own direction while "real" punk kept following its linear evolution. Also it's never really mattered what genre an artist tells you they are, these things have always been defined by the audience

I like art punk better because post-punk implies it came after as if Pere Ubu didn't release their first single in 1975

genre pedants are honestly awful

Agree. Punk is shit.

I like both i guess post-punk is more artistic

It's the most fun you can have talking about music

that sentence makes no fuckin sense

the entirety of music > punk

Are The Clash punk or post-punk?

Flipper > post-punk
youtube.com/watch?v=iFyOzzlkkqk

>implying that's a bad thing
every modern slavic post-punk album is influenced by Kino, including the Molchat Doma record a lot of people on this board really liked

they’re faux-punk

What’s middle bottom

third wire album

wire - 154

>Picking late 70s art punk albums to represent post-punk is retarded because most of those bands still just considered themselves punk. All those albums are still pretty close to the original punk sound.
Hence why it's called Post-Punk, they were the ones riding on it's first wave of success. Who do suggest represent post-punk? After a certain period it's starts to meld into art rock in the early 80s.

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Nice job repeating basic entry-level Yea Forums opinions.

You'll grow out of it... hopefully.

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Punk

everyone thinks this, OP, it's not news

Proto-punk > punk

Post a chart to prove it

Seventeen seconds was boring. prefer their other works, even tib

Not gonna make a chart but

Velvet Underground - VU&N
Patti Smith - Horses
The Who - The Who Sell Out
The Kinks - Arthur
The Modern Lovers - S/T
The Stooges - I Wanna Be Your Dog
Johnny Thunders - So Alone
Television - Marquee Moon
Suicide - S/T

Not bad

post-hardcore>post-punk

Punk > proto-punk > post-punk >>> post-hardcore

punk > post-punk

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depends whats labeled as post-hardcore

this. a lot of post-hardcore is just thinly veiled metalcore

more like modern post hardcore, i dont really know when the change occured, because i always grew up thinking that post hardcore was sleeping with sirens, a day to remember and all that gay hot topic warped tour edgy teen girl music, but then i found the ReeeEal shit Fugazi, drive like jehu, unwound. Same genre name but the sound is eons apart

The vast majority of it. If someone would call it post-hardcore then it has a high probability of being shit.

Correct opinion

>proceeds to post some of the worst 'post-punk' imaginable

I honestly prefer modern Punk to older stuff, but maybe that's just because it's topical.

I say La Dispute and Petrol Girls supported and the were fucking great. Milk Teeth slayed too.

can someone please give me some recs i'm running dry. dis my last 6 months

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