What does Yea Forums think of the most legendary Glastonbury performance of this generation?

Moved pass? Grime is all I see on social media, TV and the radio?

>Glastonbury

I'm guessing you're not British but here in the UK it's not a thing anymore, the teenage girls have thrown their Adidas sweaters in the bin and are back to wearing normal clothes again, Stormzy can't even fall back on meme status anymore, he's effectively cancelled, this Glasto pyramid stage headline slot is essentially a farewell

>implying people care about any of these anymore

how can anyone take this shit seriously lol

No.

youtu.be/8jl_mRqs6a0

Based and redpilled

SHUT TUP

Litrilly 'oo?

This is why Britain fell behind in the world

IDLES were the best I've seen so far

why is this nigger wearing UK shirt

Grime is definitely dead but UK hip-hop is bigger than its ever been with guys like Dave and the Afrobeats guys like J Hus, they're getting actual top 10 hits which never happened when grime was a thing. Even drill songs which are literally entirely about killing people get into the top 20.

Stormzy moved past grime a long time ago and is definitely still extremely relevant in the mainstream, Vossi Bop did really fucking well in the charts. Not saying he's good because he's not but to act like he's some nobody now and no one listens to him anymore is just plain wrong.

I can't understand Stormzy at all. Like why the fuck are people listening to him of all people? I think he's fucking shit. I'm not a Skepta fan either but I think he's pretty similar but miles better at the same time. My favourite popular British rapper is probably Wretch 32.

Is there a way to watch Glasto? Is it on TV or Youtube or something?

>Is it on TV
What do you think

sons of kemet did a stellar performance earlier today

He's just extremely accessible.
Got a tiny bit of edge to please the kids while still carrying himself in a pretty respectable manner so the white mums like him too.
Can rap about hood shit and then appear on the Graham Norton Show and come across as quite intelligent, well spoken, humble, friendly, funny, etc.
Very attractive public figure as a girlfriend, their relationship is quite public and comes across as quite nice so the media big them up as a big power couple.
The UK isn't ready for a proper rapper type character to be popular in the mainstream, hence why you won't see the likes of Skepta at these kinds of things because he doesn't care about that shit.
In other words, he's just gritty enough for middle class white kids to think he's hard, he's relatable to black kids from inner city London, while still having nice cute little pop/gospel tunes for the mums.
His music may be shite but he's literally everything the British media would want in a mainstream rap star.

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>why the fuck are people listening to him of all people?
It started off as a 'Greaser Sandy' moment when girls across the country (mostly young teenagers still in school) started pretending to like grime music and Stormzy and Skepta and all this utter garbage in order to impress likeminded boys, and then all the young people started wearing Adidas sweatshirts and Nike trainers, and gradually over the course of several years it went from a perfectly innocent if stupid meme to people actively unironically listening to that sort of music, like when you say a meme or joke phrase over and over again and soon it becomes absorbed into your everyday vocabulary and it stops being a meme but you don't even realise it's happening

He's also a politically charged rapper so there's that going on

>Is there a way to watch Glasto?
bbc.co.uk/iplayer

>First black British Glastonbury headliner
skunk anansi headlined in 99

>earlier today
>""""sons of kermit""""
>literally who??
They put the shit acts on in the day time, I watched 20 minutes of their set and it was pure trash, try again kiddo

People forget the "solo" part. It's one of those things where the list goes on for a day to make him the first to do it. Becuase if you are a black group, who the fuck are you?

I am British. I'm fact I live in London. So what has replaced grime? Slowthai is the one to watch, isn't he basically grime?

Unpopular opinion: Stormzy's music may be awful but he unironically seems like a really good lad and I'm happy for his success. Just seems like a normal bloke doing the best he can and enjoying himself

I agree, he's pretty sound but a little cringey. this Anons hit it on the head

Nah it's just inevitable to empires in the modern age

Slowthai is great in terms of talent but in terms of actual mainstream popularity he's really not that well known.
Grime has been replaced by just more standard hip-hop.
youtube.com/watch?v=Pxns_n9q0f4
youtube.com/watch?v=0074W0ghhNM

and also by the new Afrobeats/Afroswing genre or whatever they're calling it, that's getting quite popular in the mainstream as it sounds quite poppy and summery and is pretty uncontroversial and standard lyrics-wise
youtube.com/watch?v=3rk6_Ax0mQo
youtube.com/watch?v=uuf1DnA2vsU

To a lesser extent, UK Drill is also quite popular and a few drill rappers are actually starting to come out with mainstream hits.
youtube.com/watch?v=o1TJE5b2Lys
youtube.com/watch?v=UrnACpUhe98
youtube.com/watch?v=x4jpQMUScUk

I've met Slowthai. I think his stuff is pretty shit but he's a well nice guy

This shit is on radio 1 at work all day and I don't think anyone in the office likes it. 3 out of 4 of us spend most of the day with headphones on and the other one completely phases out and doesn't listen to anything.

Yeah but its still extremely popular.
This shit is miles more popular than grime was during its little revival a couple years ago.
Even Stormzy himself doesn't make grime anymore, he makes hip-hop and pop, the British media just calls any music made by a black man grime.

youtube.com/watch?v=9ClYy0MxsU0

I'm not into the kind of music he makes but I can respect the cultural intertextuality, multimedia elements and collaboration that his performance involved. Wasn't one of my favourite Glastonbury performances ever but the ballet segment was a nice, sincere touch. It's not like Foals or any number of derivative indie bands playing the festival did anything new or interesting with their sets that him headlining as a rap artist detracted attention from.

>obsessing over Glastonbury, which is literally just part of the musical establishment now, when guitar music is comparatively booming in the northeast

youtube.com/watch?v=Ewrg5yyPa9o

If you're complaining about the state of music in the UK and only looking in one or two large events or cities other than London for acts to vote with your wallet with, then you've got nothing to blame but yourselves. Fuck the gentrified south and fuck London.

London has a great guitar band scene, bet you haven't even bothered looking.

Among:
Hotel Lux
Shame
Italia 90

This is a symptom not the problem.
Yeah it'd be nice for the rest of the country to get its credit but this has been a problem here for fucking decades. It seems like things are kind of getting better though? Cities like Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds, etc appear to be quite a bit nicer than they were a few years ago.
To be fair, the UK rap scene is definitely branching out of London. We're currently in a timeline where a funny looking chavvy white lad from Manneh can be respected in hip-hop.

youtube.com/watch?v=gB7SvMdxVmU

I don't know a single person mentioned in this thread why is british music so irrelevant

>i am British
>i live in London
so you're a foreigner then

I can confirm that I am a white English male. That what you're looking for?

ye he tried to put on a good performance and succeeded.

now lets over-praise him just because he is a black artist doing something all artists should do by entertaining their fans.

>white english male
if i even believed you, why stay there? come home to the countryside white man

>Vest designed by Banksy.

it's literally just a gray union jack, any 8 year old could have done that

I've lived here all my life, same for generations of my family and I like it here. Also I'm not scared of people who don't look like me

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>I'm not scared of people who don't look like me

Imagine being this deluded.

Banksy is literally the summit of western art and Stormzy is the most influential artist since Mozart.......goy.

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Go on then, lecture me on why London is so bad then, feels like you're itching to do so

Banksy can take a dump and people will praise it for some reason. He gets a comission, does a half arsed, obvious piece and gets headlines time and time again.

based finally a person with normal sense

Manchester is producing some solid acts, their best since the 1990s, but I think it's a shame Sunderland and Newcastle are still so ridiculously underrated. The Brewis brothers alone are practically a two-man music scene with their prolific output and collaborations.

You just haven't been stabbed yet.

Even Ireland is making good guitar music, FONTAINES DC, Murder Capital are my favourites from eire

>Fontaines D.C.
good taste, hope they get staying power beyond the recent buzz

Me too, hope whatever they follow up with is equally as great

The knife thing in London isn't that mad unless you're involved/not stupid.
It's just like any other major city, you're not gonna walk around southside Chicago or the Bronx at night.
Just don't go to a dodgy estate in south London, there aren't even that many rough areas anymore most of London is gentrified to fuck.

Very original lad

Irish drill is the best musical export from Ireland.

youtube.com/watch?v=NpBnT391UxQ

What's shit, the audio setup, the BBC or Janet Jackson?

im taking ur mrs
na brudda im jokin

going from bowie to this. are you proud britain?

It's not that, this is easily the biggest look UK hip-hop/grime/whatever you want to call it has ever seen.
Its a very monumental moment for that scene which is why its being talked about.

London user confirming this. It is literally all gang related. No one is getting randomly stabbed, and if the media is reporting so its PURELY the media jungle politicising and trying to help oust Khan from office (though he is a terrible mayor).

The violence is contained and the killings are all based on grudges

oi rudeboi shut up

>gentrification
This, we've lost more than half our small music venues in the past decade alone, that's gutted our music culture more than any amount of immigration or muh black people.

The houses of parliament were found literally this week to be covered in traces of cocaine, so it's not as if the Tories are going to actually do anything that would seriously harm the cocaine trade that produces a lot of the most extreme gang violence in London. Even most acid attacks in my part of the country are by middle-aged white british blokes throwing hissy fits at ex-wives they used to beat up and buying corrosive products at the B&Q, not HURRRR SHARIA LAW NO-GO ZONES.

stomzy is really nothing special and overrated as FUCK by all these journalists and shit, it's weird. the british rap music scene pretty much sucks, slowthai shows some potential imo, I like dave but I feel like he hasnt put anything decent out in a while.

Would you prefer U2 or Gorillaz instead?

what do you find worth defending in this retard mumbling over an mp3?

100% Correct. Most acid attacks in London are by rugged white blokes doing it as revenge on their old misses

Little Simz is really fucking good
youtube.com/watch?v=Qqmv4daiBZg
youtube.com/watch?v=iSSKDIcpdSE

Octavian has potential to be great
youtube.com/watch?v=cFqZ_aOX5zA
youtube.com/watch?v=dz7eyvAMOpA

There's something really likeable about Sam Wise
youtube.com/watch?v=3iJ_geOn58w

Lancey Foux's entire aesthetic is wacky as fuck and miles ahead of its time
youtube.com/watch?v=8A0zsACxrPo

J Hus is elite for a mainstream artist
youtube.com/watch?v=kaO_ZLIeo7M

Overall the UK hip-hop scene isn't anywhere near as good as America's but its getting much better, most of the talent isn't getting recognised by the mainstream.

African Caribbean population in London: 13.3%

African Caribbean acid attack suspects: 38%

Over represented by 285%
White European population in London: 59.8%

White European acid attack suspects: 32%

Under represented by 53.5%
Asian population in London: 18.4%

Asian acid attack suspects: 6%

Under represented by 32.60%

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yeah,no....when ppl immediately declare something "will go down in history" it probably won't. If the performance was great it doesn't need the promotion & folks will talk about it still, this will just be pushed on "top 20 performance" lists for ethnic balance

He is seething so much he actually hassled himself to pull up statistics.

White attackers manage to escape the law a lot easier than minority groups due to institutionalised racism

Lads this really is shite. If it's the BBC I'm not staying up to watch The Killers.

I saw tame impala there in 2016 and it was great

or how about asking Muse back after that incredible 2004 set? Because what they're making right now is so, so much better than the scary black man loud noises
youtube.com/watch?v=azAEHCQgcUI

Since Glasto tickets are impossible to get, what's the second/third/whatever next best UK fest?

His stage presence is undeniably really fucking good.

Boomtown lad

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When I said "my part of the country" I was talking about East Anglia for a start, not London, where we have practically no non-white people and still have plenty of county lines gangs and acid attacks, fuck's sake my local newsagents was a coke front and I knew two years before the police did. All white, all English.

Also that chart charts the number of suspects, not convictions. I would be happy to concede my point in relation to London (which was not what I was talking about) if you can produce a similar set of statistics for convictions but it doesn't take a genius to realise that the police might apprehend a greater number of suspects in an individual case, including suspects released without charge very soon after being arrested, when the parties involved aren't white.

british normies please go away.

You can always spot a guardian reader.

I don't even think it was anything that special apart from the ballet segment but people bitching about muh black man do white man thing when there's been very few genuinely memorable headline performances from white acts in recent years anyway seems like searching for something to upset about. Of course the press will jizz over it, they jizzed over Coldplay headlining less than a decade ago (already entering their pop shit phase) calling it one of the best performances at the festival of all time. Who talks about it now? This hype will last for a few weeks at most and the press might talk about it a bit the next couple of times he headlines a regional festival but outside of that I doubt it will have much more staying power than anything else in this hellhole ADHD news cycle nightmare timeline.

Anyone remember that one time the Notre Dame burnt down and partially collapsed?

fuck no, The Guardian are just as bought out as the rest of them, I get my news from a variety of independent news outlets to cross-reference different points of view

>Stormzy headlined Glastonbury befoe Wiley
The state of this country
youtube.com/watch?v=XAH-EdwS1qs

Sure you do, comrade.

Wiley is a literal nutcase now, no chance he'd ever get a chance like that.
Even if he did he probably wouldn't turn up anyway.

He has always been a literal nutcase but he's the reason this talentless retard (and many like him) is famous in the first place.
youtube.com/watch?v=HRfAdd3GeQk

Should have been Dizzee if anyone, at least he's got the songs to carry a set. Stormzy seems like a decent enough lad, about 80% of his music is instantly forgettable though.

Download

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And Stormzy is aware of this.
He name dropped 65 artists on the Glastonbury stage, from the old guys like Wiley, Skepta, Kano, etc to the new guys like Slowthai and J Hus.

Dizzee's washed now.

based white Londoner

literally only black guys get stabbed in London you moron. none of my white friends have even seen a knife outside.

grime is shit, drill is better

Dizzee is also long past it now.
youtube.com/watch?v=EXQgLYs9PuE

Which is great but that's his way of trying to appeal to real Grime heads (who I don't think even exist anymore). He's a pop musician, nothing about his music/persona is underground like the 03/04 Grime early days and more power to him for making money and shit but the media's insistence of him being some organically created mainstram musician who came from nothing is bullshit.

Wiley (and to a lesser exten Dizzee) had been MCing for years before he finally "made it." Stprmzy had been latched onto from his first, quite frankly mediocre, popular freestyle.

I like that one song big in the boots :)

God he is awful. Do people that aren't into thug culture actually like this guy? It's like the UK has been made to think he's this amazing artist through the media, but people actually think he's another shit rapper.

He isn't thug culture at all. He's the British media's golden boy and link to the 'youth'

Did a boat load of mdma amongst other things here

This. No matter what Stormzy did, they would have given him headlines praising his performance because it fits their political agenda as well as all the white guilt people praising it so they can show how culturally enriched they are.

sometimes I forget that there are truly based people on Yea Forums and not just mongoloid /pol/tards spamming us
thank you user

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>The Killers
>actually just the drummer and Brandon Flowers because the guitarist and bassist can't be arsed any more

Sure it's anthemic but should Glasto be aiming higher?

based. speaking as a yank my visits to the UK were great. I have never been to a city that was as diverse as London is while being safe and cozy. stayed in north london too.

This is exactly why people complaining about the hype being piled on Stormzy's performance are so daft. It'd be one thing if there was some incredible new acts billed beneath him being pushed under the radar but Glastonbury is mostly chart crap and has been for a long time now. At least he's taking a multimedia approach and taking advantage of the broadcast medium etc. even I'm not into the kind of music he makes. It's better than Ariana Grande pricing actual gay people out of Manchester Pride this year because they basically turned it into a for-profit festival for her. She already had one benefit concert for the bombing, she doesn't need another. These festivals, Leeds, Reading, V Festival etc. are not where you go if you're looking for the cutting edge of British music.

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The main stage lineup this year is basically the sort of the middle of the road radio 2 shit V Festival always used to exist for.

It's basically normie bait so they don't shit up Shangri-La and wherever

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Checked but op’s Bowie comparison makes it obvious that it’s bait

Leeds and Reading are good. Much better than Glastonbury. I think bands like Panic! At The Disco are great and deserve to headline. I just hope they don't bring the pop puppets.

Music for middle class mums.

I've never heard one of his songs, but that chin beard makes me certain I'll never bother to listen to them.

Leeds and Reading are shit, and this year's lineup is utterly appalling.

t. 17 year old

Besides, Glastonbury is so big it isn't about the headliners in the same way other festivals are, though that's who the BBC's coverage focuses on.

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Headlining:

Foo Fighters: Obviously deserve it. Will be good

The 1975: Been on the go for a good few years now and have become really successful even though they're sitll in the alternative scene. I don't listen to them myself. But they deserve it.

Post Malone: I personally don't mind him headlining. He's one of the better ones in that genre.

Twenty One Pilots: Great band that have been at it a good few years and have had great success. Deserve it.

Look at the rest of it though, utter garbage. And Foo Fighters must have played that festival about 5 times now.

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How old are you?

Bowling for Soup playing in front of about 10 people has me pissing

>Headlining:
>Foo Fighters: Obviously deserve it. Will be good

Fucking hell, are people not bored of seeing them, they just rotate round the festivals every year. Having to sit through their increasingly shit newer stuff, just so you can wait to hear their decent songs from the first couple of albums.

28. I'm guessing you think i'm a teenager or something. You need to learn to start showing respect to younger and newer musicians or you will just continue the cycle of hating everything that's new and not the music you grew up listening to.

Chemical Brothers are killing it right now.
Easily the best performance so far.

I'm the guy that posted that. It will be good, but I agree with you. I personally don't listen to them. I used to though.

How the fuck can you be 28 yet have the musical taste of a 14 year old?

>younger artists
>spends his Saturday evenings defending buttrock like the Foo Fighters and Kerrang nonce bands like Panic!

Wew lad.

Glastonbury has more interesting young artists playing on its dozens of stages than the Vevo-core belched up on

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kek, the guy has a point. maybe you need the brain of at least a 14 year old to get it, but you're not there yet

I knew you would think this. You people that have never picked up an instrument in their life need use your brain for once. You need to understand that music is music. Twenty One Pilots are a great band. If an older band that you like came out with a Twenty One Pilots song, you wouldn't bat an eyelid and wouldn't even think it sounds like a Twenty One Pilots song. You need to read what I said in my first reply to you. Do you understand that there will have been idiots saying the same thing about the new musicians you were listening to at 14? There has always been idiots like yourself that think this way. You are just continuing the cycle. How sad and braindead.

I think Stormzy is shit and I couldn't give a fuck about this.

Brendon Urie of Panic! At The Disco is excellent. He's one of the best 'rock' stars out there today. He has the songs and swagger about him. He's great. Really enjoyed the last album 'Death of a Bachelor' in particular.

Grime is dead as fuck.
Dubstep is dead as fuck.
Drum and bass still going fucking strong.

lmao whites are suck unbelievable cucks, they instinctively assume a prostrated position in the presence of any black

> Twenty One Pilots are a great band. If an older band that you like came out with a Twenty One Pilots song, you wouldn't bat an eyelid and wouldn't even think it sounds like a Twenty One Pilots song.
I would because Twenty One Pilots are absolute shite. Post-Ryan Ross Panic! are also appalling.

You genuinely sound like someone with only the most minimal of interest in music who never branched out or discovered anything new.

>you won't see the likes of Skepta
who is just as bad lmao. Most British rap, especially the "hard' type, will always be embarrassing because American rap exists. Skepta sounds like a sheltered nerd who wants to be taken seriously

The state of this comment

kek

>North Korean, Kim Jong-Un when I spray the machine
>You're on the other side if you ain't on my team
What machine is he spraying? Nerf gun? Water squirter? Kitchen knife propulsor? Not to mention the corny Eminem tier lyrics. UK rap more like nursery rhymes lmao

There are great young and new musicians. The ones you mentioned aren't them. 1975's last album was decent the rest are shit.

They're not. I'm not even a proper fan. I've heard their singles and think they're good. I know the main guy does pretty much everything, so as a musician myself, I think he is talented. Let me guess, if you're British.. you probably think 'Biffy Clyro' and 'Royal Blood' (only if you're younger than them, because if you're older, then you can't respect them) are the shit because they sound 'heavy' and like "real music". If a band you liked turned the distortion up and bashed out the exact same composition of a Twenty One Pilots song and sung in their own vocal style, you'd love it. You're just going to say you wouldn't though because you can't even comprehend it. You can't actually imagine what it would sound like. You're probably one of these cringy idiots in the youtube comments that leaves a comment under a 'metal' or 'rock' cover of a 'lighter' sounding song saying something like, "holy shit this is way better than that original piece of crap!" just because it sounds 'heavier'.

I'm constantly listening to music. Old and new. You said i have the musical taste of a 14 year old regarding Twenty One Pilots and The 1975 I presume. So your last comment about me not branching out and discovering anything new doesn't make sense because I've actually taken the time to listen some newer musicians instead of writing them off as shit because they're young and new. If I never branched out and discovered anything new, i'd still be listening to nothing but Green Day. I understand my comments must be shocking to you, because you don't hear many people speak this way because they just continue the cycle of hating everything new and thinking the music they grew up with is the best.

Being a musician that wants to fill his brain with as much music as possible so I can create better. I guarantee I listen to a lot more than you. You probably only think rock music is 'real music'.

>muh slavery
>muh kids dun do nuffin
idk what the crime rate in shit hole UK is but in america 50% violent crimes are nigs. Black people are insufferable from every country except the nigs in Netherlands i swear

Holy shit, you've had a massive temper tantrum there son. Absolutely huge. You're nearly 30? You must have the mental age of a 14 year old with the way you've been crying there.

>I'm not even a proper fan. I've heard their singles and think they're good.
Absolute liar. You wouldn't be having this breakdown if you were just a casual fan of them.

Twenty One Pilots and The 1975 are the most mainstream and basic shit possible. You haven't developed your musical taste at all from when you were listening to Green Day in 2005. You've just stagnated and gone with whatever shit is popular nowadays. If you're a musician then your work must be incredibly boring and not creative in the slightest.

I sincerely hope this is some dedicated trolling

Ya seethe?

Wotsits

Jon fucking Hopkins of all people has been my set so far. To be fair it was an absolute belter.

>vest designed by banksy

gayest sentence of the year

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Jon Hopkins is fine, he's just repetitive

Jesus Christ this is awful.