What does she listen to?

>Friedman
>Ancap
Epic retard moment

This. Wonen only copy what others do.

right wingers can't have sincere music taste so it doesn't matter

the fuck does “sincere music taste” even mean

Actual appreciation for the art instead of just liking shit because whatever artistic authorities tell them it's good.

you retarded son?

> women have no individuality
fixed.
Hence, women can't be right-wing either. Political convictions, like any other convictions, are exclusive to males. If it were to be otherwise, females would simply cease to exist - their flexibility is simply an evolutionary mechanism.

lostprophets or that pedo album

Kanye but the music is interrupted by an advertisement every 20 seconds.

>DEEEEEEESPITE ALL MY RAGE I'M STILL JUST A RAT IN A CAAAAAGE

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TINDER
WINE
BIRTH CONTROL
REPEAT

Based and redpilled.

Read 'em and weep.

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there’s a lot of overlap there

There are no right wing "art authorities". Critics are overwhelmingly left wing and despise bands/musicians who are right wing. See: Rush

I mean most of the american right is pretty incapable of critical thought in general so it makes sense

these threads are always terrible

That's totally not true. I'm very left wing, I'm into the Murray Bookchin types, but the most important living philosopher of aesthetics is Roger Scruton, who's also one of the most prominent intellectuals of traditionalist conservatism.

You're delusional and ideologically addled.

Ayn Rand lectures

BASED AND MENTORS PILLED

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>Make america great again by oppressing freedoms of american people, cutting consumer and environmental protections, denying american workers a living wage, denying americans healthcare, dehumanizing immigrants which if you go back a couple generations is what all of us are, all on a foundation of white christian fear

Lol yeah ok

Not here to have this conversation though, you can believe whatever you want, it's all good

critics are all failed somethings so it makes sense. when people say that right wingers aren’t artists, i tend to agree. they usually end up becoming engineers, businessmen, and other careers with actual importance. its mainly just self obsessed leftists making >art

>the pilgrims were immigrants!

the pilgrims were settlers, there was no concept of immigration back then because there was no nation and no laws.

He is an important philosopher on aesthetics. But he isn't even close to representing "the art establishment" nor what I am referring to. Music critics and the music art establishment are definitively left wing. Rush openly admired Ayn Rand - Music Journalists smeared them and called them fascists. Just look at how the music establishment treats other openly right wing musicians.

>Scruton
Please off yourself. No honest to god leftist movement needs someone like you.

Really proving you're not ideologically addled by spouting out a checklist of a completely false ideological statements. Very good job.

>thinking America is a nation
Laughing merrily

I mean yeah, that's definitely true, you could argue that it's different, personally from a moral perspective I don't think it's that different, if anything immigrants today are coming here hoping to be co-opted into a better, safer society while the pilgrims were coming to settle and replace native people which they were barely even aware of.

Drastically different times, but the pilgrims were trying to get away from a shitty situation just like any other immigrant really.

There were lots of other European immigrants coming later, too

Uhh these things are all happening and are pretty utilitarian issues that would simply improve quality of life for the American people but OK keep getting republicucked into voting against your own interests buddy I'm sure you'll be a millionaire CEO yourself soon enough.

No, you fucking kill yourself. Scruton wrote some good stuff on aesthetics. I'm strongly opposed to his political views, especially on immigration, and I recognize he's a shill for everything from neoconservatism to big tobacco, which is reprehensible. But your purity bullshit is reprehensible, and I doubt you even know who Murray Bookchin and Élisée Reclus are. Blow your brains out.

right, and again those pilgrims and Europeans were settling a land without laws or borders. but you’ll get what you want, the younger generation is all about open borders and soon the flood will come. and your kids will inherit the hell

Brown people = hell

Lol ok little snowflake I know it's scary but you'll be ok, don't cry

The difference is all in who they get opinons from. Leftist get them from the media, Rightist get it from the media and any masculine figures in their life. Basically, no women have originality at all.

>Leftist get them from the media, Rightist get it from the media and any masculine figures in their life
this is the most retarded thing I've ever read

Yeah you're such an individual with your incel rhetoric, that's so original, truly only you have the power to crawl up your own butthole and let us all know that you, you are ideologically correct because the women are bad and mean and dumb and they hurt you

>tfw no sam hyde memegirlfriend
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

it’s gonna rule bro, they’re exactly like us in every way. it’ll be great

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Wow that picture convinced me that you were right all along, I guess I have to concede this argument since not only were you racist but you posted that picture- clearly you're very intelligent

This except it applies to the right wing in general.

plug your ears. repeat “we are all the same we are all the same”. we’re all gonna be ok

Another sound logical argument from the mind of a genius

No, they are not all happening. I never said anything about supporting republicans either. I don't see how either party is completely supportive of freedoms. At least the republicans care more about the 2nd amendment. Republicans are not denying anybody a "living wage" or "healthcare". Republicans don't want to increase the minimum wage across the when country to $15 dollars an hour. Anybody with even a cursory knowledge of economics will tell you the many issues with raising the minimum wage so quickly. I guess your idea of a living wage really means increased prices and unemployment for teenagers and other low skilled workers. Republicans don't want to adopt a new system of healthcare when our current governmental system is already bloated and poorly functioning. I guess they just hate poor people or something. You (like most left wingers) don't look at policy decisions rationally. You blindly believe your idea is going to be the solution and anybody who doesn't want to implement your idea is repugnant and immoral.

you’re right, I honesty have no argument against the countless points you’ve brought up. i concede

These statements are just wrong.

Min.wage was increased to $15 in my city of Seattle and we are doing fine, all the horrible effects you hear about have not happened. It is still barely enough money for people to live.

The whole "our healthcare system is predatory and the worst in the developed world so we SHOULDN'T try to change it" is also just retarded.

I don't have to guess that they hate poor people, they openly do, and employ strawman arguments about how lazy the poor are all the time. (Their supporters do this to justify policy.)

Also fuck the 2nd amendment, the 2nd amendment gives you the right to keep a musket. I'm tired of mass shootings.

Anyway whatever, we can disagree.

No it's ok I've already accepted that all hispanics are devils who come here to leech off of our incredible free healthcare and massive workers protections and that they will destroy our entire society and bring us to our knees.

right you would think they’d stop (or stay) in mexico where they share a language and where there’s universal healthcare. really begs the question why USA is the target destination

They probably have an idealistic view of America, but also Mexico has a lot of poverty / violence

Tbh I'm not sure why you would come right now, either though, I can agree with you on that one

I just don't believe they're going to make anything any worse. People here already suck, shit is already fucked up, most of these immigrants are just hard working people trying to get their families to a better country.

>Min.wage was increased to $15 in my city of Seattle and we are doing fine, all the horrible effects you hear about have not happened. It is still barely enough money for people to live.
Wow! A single city adopted a wage increase. Must mean the entire country needs to adopt the same wage. Because the entire country has the same exact cost of living as fucking Seattle.

>The whole "our healthcare system is predatory and the worst in the developed world so we SHOULDN'T try to change it" is also just retarded.
I did not say "we shouldn't try to change it"
I said that we shouldn't try to fix a problem already caused by an inefficient and bloated government by created an even more bloated government program. Also you pretend as if other systems have no issues and that our system has no merits.

>Also fuck the 2nd amendment, the 2nd amendment gives you the right to keep a musket. I'm tired of mass shootings
Good to see clear evidence that you're completely historically and legally ignorant. You have no grounds to care about the "evil republicans taking away freedom" when you literally want your freedom taken away for the illusion of safety.

i don’t think they have bad intentions, they honestly probably just want better lives. but why should illegals be granted immediate citizenship when thousands of people have waiting to get in legally?

Our healthcare being shitty isn't necessarily about bloated government, it's about a lack of regulation.

I don't hate guns, I think keeping a pistol is cool, I'm just exacerbated about the shootings. Data supports that gun control does seem to HELP a little bit, and I believe we should do something rather than nothing. The 2nd amendment was written in a different time and the constitution is a living document. That's all.

You have valid points about minimum wage, but I also think that $15 minimum is reasonable anywhere in the country- in fact for Seattle that still isn't enough, Seattle is fucked up right now on a level similar to San Francisco. A realistic wage to support someone actually living here would be more like $18-20.

Yeah, this is true. It is a really hard problem and I don't have all the answers. We need to make our process way more efficient and there are a massive number of people coming here.

The dehumanizing rhetoric and shitty conditions in the camps really don't help the whole situation- I feel it could be handled better but admit that I'm not there on the front lines dealing with this and don't know everything. It's a shitty situation.

My ancestors came here from Norway so I do have some sympathy for people trying to come to this country.

Lmao, the fucking posturing. This is not about purity politics, you fucking loser. I don't care if you read texts from conservative, fascist or libertarian brain geniuses - I do as well. No leftist of movement of worth cares that you're into some conservative idiot who wrote some decent texts. It's claiming that Scruton is the "mOsT iMpoRtanT liVinG phiLosOphEr of AesTheticS". There's enough viable leftist philosophers out there for you to champion but you'd rather go for some heinous fucking ghoul. It's the same with all the idiots who keep on working with the likes of Heidegger or Schmitt. Who fucking cares that you're trying to be an academic wunderkind, it's not fucking important to the working class or any other movement that needs support. Surely, since you're such a good leftist, you're supplementing your theoretical endeavors with practical work? Organizing with other people of your couleur? Maybe next time you're gonna decide on which Scruton text you're gonna analyze, since it'll definitely help in building your movement.

Fucking idiot.

*exacerbated

I meant exasperated, sorry, that didn't make sense

Our mass shooting problem is also clearly a cultural and mental illness problem and I think it has many components

>muh guns
Lmao, be honest, you ever stick your dick in one of your guns?

ancaps are actually left wing

Do you consider your mom a gun?

zzzzzzzzzz

>Our healthcare being shitty isn't necessarily about bloated government, it's about a lack of regulation.
How? The healthcare industry is extremely regulated. You realize we already spend more on healthcare than we do on the military right? We do not operate under anything even closely resembling a free market healthcare system.

>I don't hate guns, I think keeping a pistol is cool, I'm just exacerbated about the shootings. Data supports that gun control does seem to HELP a little bit, and I believe we should do something rather than nothing. The 2nd amendment was written in a different time and the constitution is a living document. That's all.
Pistols are the weapon of the vast majority of fun murders. Rifles (all rifles including semi-automatic rifles) kill less than 300 people in a given year). I've researched gun control extensively. The facts almost entire lineup against what the current anti-gun lobby want. Mass shootings are statistically negligible and are often over reported by the media. Stats regarding Mass shootings are often exaggerated or outright lies. The Constitution isn't a living document either. It has a literal meaning with only a small space for interpretation. If you want change that goes against what the Constitution says you shouldn't pretend like the Constitution can mean whatever you want it to mean. You should just try to amend the Constitution. Of course you won't be able to do that because most people aren't going to agree to give up their Constitutional right to own a gun.

Only if you consider your sister to be a gun

she's not contractually allowed to listen to music for enjoyment, the only thing she gets to hear is whatever her husband/supervisor plays while homesteading her uterus, as provisioned in section iv, article 31 of the marriage contract