Why doesn't Jpop have nearly as strong following on Yea Forums as Kpop? Are all the fans stuck on /jp/?

Why doesn't Jpop have nearly as strong following on Yea Forums as Kpop? Are all the fans stuck on /jp/?

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Jpop's sound and aesthetics only have niche appeal in the West. Kpop is much more Americanized, and apparently is also pushed more aggressively overseas than Jpop is.

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I don't Yea Forums in general cares much for kpop. It's just that there's no other appropriate board for k-pop fans to make k-pop generals. J-pop fans have /jp/

Japan does rock, mostly.
jpop is stuck in idol waifu ballad hell, while kpop has gone full edm and tropical house to bait SEA and latinos.

I think anime jpop is better than the "real" thing. Most recent Oricon chart video on youtube has Love Live at #4 and #3.

It's because whenever anyone makes a J-pop general or whatever, they're told to go to /jp/ and the few J-pop connoisseurs on this board will get their panties in a twist over "idolshit" and might even insist that J-pop is dead because there isn't a new generation of stars who parallel the previous generations, when literally the "idolshit" really IS the new generation, and if you post any "real J-pop" it's still "idolshit" if it's made by anyone born after 1980 or whatever. They want individual singers rather than groups and their music to have that oldschool sound and aesthetic, which just isn't done anymore nearly as much to begin with and the only reason is nostalgia. Nostalgia sells but not to "dude my waifu is the sexiest" kids, who spend the most money, so of course no record label is going to stake everything on nostalgia value. And new nostalgic J-pop is still made, it's literally still being made by both the old-timers and some new ones, but mention any new ones and you're told "REEE IT'S ALL IDOLSHIT". The new ones are just not becoming massive stars with huge influence on every single thing in the world, and they think that's a bad thing because apparently it means the old-timers who're still going are not going to be "replaced" by them when they retire, and will claim old-timers are still peaking in popularity and don't even want a new generation until it's too late. Basically Yea Forums is full of autists who use the continued popularity of some from the previous generation as proof that there is a current for it, but also justify their shitting on "idolshit" by it, which is the replacement that ALREADY HAPPENED. They just refuse to see it, they go "WELL LOOK AT MADONNA IN AMERICA" and close their eyes and ears while keeping their mouths so open that all the bullshit in the world can just stream in freely and they swallow it happily. Anyone born after 1980 is "idolshit", any groups are "idolshit", etc. to them. They're just idiots.

It's because whenever anyone makes a J-pop general or whatever, they're told to go to /jp/ and the few J-pop connoisseurs on this board will get their panties in a twist over "idolshit" and might even insist that J-pop is dead because there isn't a new generation of stars who parallel the previous generations, when literally the "idolshit" really IS the new generation, and if you post any "real J-pop" it's still "idolshit" if it's made by anyone born after 1980 or whatever. They want individual singers rather than groups and their music to have that oldschool sound and aesthetic, which just isn't done anymore nearly as much to begin with and the only reason is nostalgia. Nostalgia sells but not to "dude my waifu is the sexiest" kids, who spend the most money, so of course no record label is going to stake everything on nostalgia value. And new nostalgic J-pop is still made, it's literally still being made by both the old-timers and some new ones, but mention any new ones and you're told "REEE IT'S ALL IDOLSHIT". The new ones are just not becoming massive stars with huge influence on every single thing in the world, and they think that's a bad thing because apparently it means the old-timers who're still going are not going to be "replaced" by them when they retire, and will claim old-timers are still peaking in popularity and don't even want a new generation until it's too late. Basically Yea Forums is full of autists who use the continued popularity of some from the previous generation as proof that there is a current for it, but also justify their shitting on "idolshit" by it, which is the replacement that ALREADY HAPPENED. They just refuse to see it, they go "WELL LOOK AT MADONNA IN AMERICA" and close their eyes and ears while keeping their mouths so open that all the bullshit in the world can just stream in freely and they swallow it happily. Anyone born after 1980 is "idolshit", any groups are "idolshit", etc. to them. They're just idiots.

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No, don't make this into a pasta. I know saying that will only make you want to pasta it even more but it's not even a funny or autistic post so if it becomes pasta, it reduces the quality of all the other pastas in the pot. But why do people always try to make my non-autistic posts into pastas here and /jp/ when they're just statement of facts or opinions? I've made autistic posts and no one tries to make them into pastas, so what is it with my non-autistic posts that makes you guys want to pasta them? I just don't get it. One time I autistically spent hours analysing pics to determine if two girls were the same (the proof was inconclusive but I lean towards them being the same OR there being three girls in the pics of supposedly two girls, as equally likely, but of them being just two girls I'm not convinced) and made a chart detailing my findings, yet no one tried to make that into a pasta or ever reposted the pic that I know of. But I don't know, I don't go on /jp/ anymore because it's been infested by idiots who think flawed capitalism is better than either functional capitalism or non-capitalism systems just because of "muh virtue" and it's retarded and delusional. Capitalism whose chain of supply and demand rests on "higher virtue" for the "product", in this case idols, is inherently flawed as it milks incels who will take any excuse to drop a group or their oshi, and therefore they directly contribute to the market of "virtuous idols" negatively even if it's profitable at first. This is the paradox of virtue capitalism, it's bait after bait. With time it no longer works and eventually Japanese economy may collapse entirely if some "enlightened" capitalist incel will resort to pulling the apocalypse on the world stage, that idols are not inherently "pure" and that even the old J-pop stars may have been getting gangbanged but no one will ever know, and the mystery will drive both incels and teen girls to mass suicide out of despair.
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