Just listened to this. My soul left my body and flew into outer space

I will be checking these out.

I don't even understand jazz but I listened to this out of curiosity last week and it blew me away. I found it more engaging than Kind of Blue

The musical equivalent of walking into a room and forgetting what you went in there to do.
Good as background noise while reading or doing chores, not for active listening.

This may sound silly, but you won't 'get' jazz until you do.

yeah I only really got Kind of Blue after I listened to more jazz, not sure why it's recommended to newbies, it's just too mellow and restrained to make a big impression unless you can already recognise masterful playing and composition

A Love Supreme, on the other hand, is very passionate and full of intense emotion but not too out there, perfect for getting into jazz

Jazz does make for good background music, there's no denying that. But A Love Supreme is absolutely built for active listening. This is an album to get completely sucked into.

spiritual but not psychadelic in the way that mingus' more orchestral cluttered work is. more on the meditation side rather than the trip itself. certainly gets me closer to god. also it's catchy. melodies that aren't improvised stick out and everything has an air of gravitas to them. it never doubts itself.

A Love Supreme > Kind of Blue

>everything has an air of gravitas to them

That's a good way to put it. This album feels important when I'm listening to it. Very powerful.

Coltrane is a god.
All that era of cool jazz and hard bop is still underrated as fuck. Hard bop was doing drum and bass before samplers existed.

Check out that insightful and true post

Checked and Based.

I disagree. It just felt sort of meandering and aimless to me. I always end up spacing out when I try to listen to Coltrane.

good quads
that's called improvisation, user
maybe jazz just isn't for you

Soultrane is almost a hidden gem, little talked about.
Beware of late period ‘trane - it’s dense, complex, and in my opinion, he disappears up his own fundament.

late trane is mostly noisy free jazz, so that's bad if you dislike noisy free jazz

not the writer of that post and also a fan of this album, good improvisation goes somewhere and it's phrased like written music, its just made up on the spot. most improvisation however fails at this and ends up being aimless meandering. (king crimson - itcotck)

King Crimson's improvisations were honestly brutal. Maybe there are a few decent ones, but I haven't heard them.

i meant theyre bad. specifically the guitar

can you recommend me drum and bass hard bop?

I like jazz, I just prefer it when songs aren't more than 5 minutes long tops, preferably have some vocals throughout, and I can actually tell when one track ends and another begins. None of those things apply to Love Supreme.

Big jazz fan, dabble in jazzier dnb (Roni Size, etc.)
Would be interested in recs too - I feel it’s an untapped musical area for me

Amon Tobin for modern drum and bass with a jazz bop sound.
Charlie Parker is always the big one for speedy hard bop. The recordings are shocking quality given the great performances.
youtube.com/watch?v=AMuItUv9xZc
Can barely even hear the drums and bass on that one.
I think that was related to this from memory:
youtube.com/watch?v=fsAMAIaas94

I think I also meant bebop, though I really don't distinguish hard bop from it (HB is heavier on groove and funk compared to Bebop's insanity).
A lot of this shit was played for the first time live by rhythm musicians using sheet music. That's nuts to me. They had the theory so tight back then, very much unlike now.
And some on major labels too. Unthinkable today.

then I guess avant-garde jazz isn't for you, especially not in suite form
no need to criticise Coltrane in particular when his whole subgenre is so far from what you like