Tell me why you hate this album without using buzzwords like "it sounds like demos!!!!!!" or "lars doesn't play the...

I don't. It's a good album on it's own. I feel like it would faired much better if some other band than Metallica would have released it. Frantic, Unnamed Feeling, and Invisible Kid are stellar tracks.

Reload yes, Load not even close.

It has no guitar solos

formulaic, poppy, no grit

it doesn't need any flashy guitar solos, it is what it is
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You have no taste if you honestly think MOP is their best album and Black isn't a huge piece of shit. I agree with Load but no one should ever rate Reload above a 6.

>poppy
>metal
listen to hair metal than faggit

every song is about 4 minutes too long

I was saying that's a bad aspect of it you actual retard

Hair metal is far better than St. Anger you douches.

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what about Lulu?

Lulu is a 9.

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When St. Anger came out it was at the end of Metallica's "soft" period of Load and Reload and their other stuff in the 90s that moved even further away from the thrash metal sound that many people know and love them for. They'd also made a lot more enemies by leading the vanguard of millionaire artists lashing out at Napster. There's something about seeing a metal band that got big through tape trading testifying before Congress to protest illegal music sharing that rubbed people up the wrong way. Jason Newstead had also recently left the band, allegedly because of health issues but as it turns out the rest of Metallica were getting pissy about him jamming with some local musicians - nobody in Metallica is allowed to have side projects. So basically, it was widely accepted that Metallica were jerks.

So St. Anger came out and promised to return Metallica to their roots. Most people were skeptical, but I was young and optimistic. It turns out, though, that what Metallica defined as "roots" music was simplistic songs with meandering structures and pathetic "angsty" lyrics that seem more like an alcoholic's CBT notes than metal lyrics. "My lifestyle determines my deathstyle", "Frantic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tock" (sung in the style of a clock - how clever), "I'm madly in anger with you" (get it - cos it's not love?) etc. Then filming their video in San Quentin prison gave off this attempt at being tough that just implied a midlife crisis.

The album was a horribly written and terribly produced attempt to cash in on nu-metal. They used drop tunings, eschewed guitar solos, wrote trashy and unreflective lyrics about how life is so mean. Lars' snare was just a vignette of the gap between what the album intended to do and what it actually did. The purpose was to make the album sound moody, abrasive and aggressive, but it was just overbearing, clangy and irritating. St. Anger was meant to sound like a garage band, but instead it sounded like a garage band with paint tins. None of the album works.

So yeah, that turned out to be a review of St. Anger basically, but I think the context of its release goes some way to explaining why it's held up as the gold standard of awful metal albums from established bands. It's up there with garbage like Celtic Frost's Cold Lake and Cryptopsy's The Unspoken King. People care slightly less about Lulu, which is arguably even worse than St. Anger, and I'd argue that the reason is because of the context of its release.

>Frantic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tock
is legitimately one of the most laughable lyrics I've ever heard

Thr songs are way too fucking long for them

>>or "lars doesn't play the drums, he plays the garbage can lid!!!!!"
the snare was simply just avant-garde that you got pleb filtered by, see >> People care slightly less about Lulu, which is arguably even worse than St. Anger
i could go on and on about how st anger is actually good

Metallica was trying their best to fit in with the nu-metal flock

That's why it was all angsty introspective trying to be deep and dark lyrics, sounding muddy and dingey, no guitar solos, and banging on trash cans

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>>or "lars doesn't play the drums, he plays the garbage can lid!!!!!"

exceeds ratings.

It was a blatant attempt to copy Slipknot, who literally feature banging on garbage cans in their music

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All within my hands is the heaviest song Metallica has ever put out, and my favorite on St. Anger.

It's next gen as fuck when played at 33rpm.

at least slipknot own that shit, even if it's dumb.

>AJFA: 6,5/10
>Black: 8,5/18
Opinion discarded

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This guy's reaction is appropriate I think

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based youyouyou poster, only critic that matters.

>tfw this nigga a better drummer than Lars

because it's actually fucking good

>sup dudes

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It's extremely boring, the songs are overly long, production is total dogshit and james vocals and lyrics are awful. The only good things I can say about this album are that it has a few good riffs and lars actually did a great job with the drums, definitely second best after Justice when it comes to that part

SUM KINDAAH MONSTERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Songs are too long.

Unreleased songs are way worse.
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>It sounds like demos
As a black metal fan this triggers me

Load/Reload sessions were Metallica aping Grunge.

St.Anger felt like they were taking a page from Trent Reznor's playbook, only no synths and production autism.

St.Anger is criminally underrated

ok
its bad

I don't think Load/Reload was aping "grunge" at all, it was definitely an aping of a 90s mindset, but none of it sounds like any Seattle based music

>Trent Reznor
They were trying to cater to nu metal crowd retardo.

this.

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The songs are too long and the songwriting and lyrics are juvenile at best.
I still fucking love it though. There's something so deeply honest about it that resonates with me.