Mahler is pretty awful. I listened to all his symphonies but they're all unremarkable except the 5th.
Beethoven is much superior.
Thomas Taylor
Congratulations, you listened to all his symphonies once and you didn't get it.
Luis Phillips
I listened to them several times actually. A few times on drugs.
Mason Stewart
Fine. They're anything but unremarkable though.
Daniel Edwards
which instrument has the most flexibility in terms of pieces to learn: clarinet, oboe, or english horn?
Brandon Carter
Clarinet, by a wide margin. Largest range, lots of difference in color according to register, most popular woodwind for chamber music since Mozart and widely utilized in contemporary classical.
B-flat. But every professional is expected to play both B-flat and A.
Isaiah Rivera
Any recommendation for picrel's music? I heard a few pieces on yt and I it felt fresh, so I will need more! If anyone's into Martinu, then please give me your piece/recording recs, because he wrote so much it's """problematic""".
>decide to look for some contemporary classical >"Beat Furrer" >sounds interesting >watch interview >"I asked the librettist to base the opera on Tarkovsky's movie Solaris" >also full of inarticulate mumble Can have only contempt for these contemporary composers, but basing an opera and libretto on a movie which is already based on a great novel is some next fucking level of degeneracy, the video confirms the absolute state of this guy, and likely others like him.
Also looks a bit like Beethoven, which only adds to the wound.
Jose Morgan
Beethoven wants his 16th quartet back.
Luis Gomez
Post the music, brainlet
Samuel Gray
Im Moscheles, ask me anything
Charles Lopez
petzold?
Jack Torres
It's not worth it.
Adam Hernandez
I enjoy the music of Philip Glass and I don't care what you think about that
Matthew Evans
>Martinu 2nd violin concerto orchestral parts remind me of his symphonies, solo parts are a bit more interesting, I'd say it's closer to late romantic than modern from what it sounds like. youtube.com/watch?v=TrHyQ-Ym-2s knowing his opera Julietta, I expected a bit more adventurous compositions from Martinu in general. It's worth to listen at least to the prelude of his opera. youtube.com/watch?v=uqKzBHsf6Co
Liam Martinez
I enjoy the music of john cage and I don't care what you think about that
Leo Clark
What's some ambient classical? I was listening to Cantus in memoriam Benjamin Britten by Arvo Part and really liked it. Is there any more like that?
Shostakovich's first symphony feels pretty weird; like divided in two completely different parts. The first two movements sound pretty much like Stravinsky and sounds like from a modern ballet. The two other movements are a Mahler pastiche
>I’m becoming daily more and more misanthropic and misogynous…nothing worthwhile, good or useful to do… no one to devote myself to. My situation makes me horridly sad and wretched. Even musical production has lost its attraction for me for I can’t see the point or goal.
I have same problems. the solution is to pursue health and find an environment where you can belong to a community where your contributions to that community matter and so people respect you because they need you. God speed
Thoughts on Edward Elgar's Cello Concerto in E Minor?
Nicholas Ortiz
It it's not Baroque, it's not worth listening to.
Joshua Miller
Wrong, the solution is the pursue a higher ideal as human beings alienate themselves by living only for themselves
Lincoln Evans
Every porn game I have played I did with Wagner's name
Nathaniel Nelson
its no worse to base an opera on Stalker than it is to base one on a shitty stage version of a fairy tale like half of the classics are
Blake Davis
if its not baroque dont fix it mirite my dude
Oliver Campbell
anyone know a way to get the stuff on Met Opera on Demand for free?
James Bennett
The wokest thing to do is to base it on a newspaper cartoon featuring anthropomorphic animals
Aiden Myers
*ahmem* Actually it is to base it on the atichrist or other satanic figures, as Langaard did with his only opera
Aaron Bailey
Someone asked for underrated Bach pieces in the other "russian composers" thread that died Here you go fren youtu.be/XFW9wU8Ht3U The German Organ Mass, literally one of his best works and nobody gives a flying fuck about this work Fuck, i even heard people criticizing this because its too ""wanky"" i mean wtf
>Another Organ mass underrater AAAAAAAHHHHRG But i must agree that some parts are kinda fuzzy is not as clear and compact as the WTC II lets say This is Bach basically not giving a fuck, he was the best organist and the best composer and the Organ mass is him his instrument and God
What isn’t too wanky by Bach? He’s wank incarnate.
Joseph Bailey
In the midst of Messiaen’s Turangalîla-Symphonie. What the hell is this? The variety in sections is so big that it doesn’t flow at all. Except it kinda does in a weird surreal fever dream way because there’s actually structure and movements call back melodies from other movements that happened before. Even the harmonic/modular aspect of the music’s so weird because it’s atonal but not in the way you think so it’s welcoming but not it’s slightly off. My sentiment towards this work is confused.
You don't have to tell me that, I've been evangelizing all things René for a decade here and I consider it very close to the Schoenberg.
Cooper Martinez
God why do pianists make noises while they play I hate it so much
Xavier Cruz
Sometimes they can't help it. It used to bug me but it doesn't anymore, I kind of find it endearing at times. Celibidache definitely had the most autistic noises though, you can hear him over the orchestra.
>20 minutes I'm hoping for an overly slow attempt at being metaphysical and transcendental user, don't disappoint me
Noah Lee
>an overly slow attempt at being metaphysical and transcendental that's pretty much what it is, plus some lo fi
Luke Rodriguez
What are the best versions of bruckner 9 and mahler 9?
Alexander Fisher
Bruckner 9 is an easy pick, no one comes close to Furtwängler's only recording of it. It's one of the best performances of anything, ever. If you want a stereo version with the reconstructed finale, try Eichhorn. But nothing can replace or even touch Furtwängler. Klemperer 1934 comes close as a performance, but the sound is awful.
Mahler 9 ought to be Walter 1938 first and foremost, with the incredibly intense and caustic Scherchen 1951 as an alternative. If you want stereo, Horenstein/ONF 1967 is great, if slow. Kubelik is also very competitive in the stereo era.
Nolan Green
Bruckner 9 - *Furtwangler*, Schuricht (really great string playing in the first movement especially), Skrowaczewski (one on Reference label; other one is boring), Beinum, Horenstein, Andreae
Mahler 9 - Maderna, Kubelik, Horenstein (take your pick of the recordings, he has a lot and all are worth hearing), Walter (Wiener is better, but Columbia is fine), Kondrashin ('67), Rosbaud, Chailly (Gewandhaus, earlier Decca cycle isn't as interesting nor as well balanced; he uses superior orchestra layout now.)
>If you want a stereo version with the reconstructed finale, try Eichhorn. Isn't the Eichhorn featuring a rather early version of the completion? Then again I'm not really caught up with the scholarship on this; for me Bruckner's 9th ends perfectly fine as it is and I've only given the finale a cursory listen once or twice. >with the incredibly intense and caustic Scherchen 1951 as an alternative It's been years since I've heard it but I remember wishing the orchestra had been more together. I need to relisten to it.
Joseph Lopez
the best version of Mahler 9 is Mahler 2
Nolan Evans
If you want choral Mahler the 8th is the better choice.
Blake Perry
Really dumb post. Mahler 9 is basically the biggest-scored chamber music there is, with the exception of the third movement Mahler 2 is pretty flat symphonic music.
Adam Foster
Here's a solution: an hero now
Gavin Lopez
>his favorite movement of the 2nd is the fucking waltz rather than the opener, the choral, or the closer never before have I seen something this cringe
Bentley Cruz
Uncanny/eerie folk Mahler is the only good early Mahler, keep the fin du siecle religious kitsch, thank you very much. It's a great movement that's actually witty and compositionally economic and unified, heck, it even has that beautiful baroque trio sonata allusion.
And while we're at it: 4 and 1 are much better than 2 and 3 in terms of early Mahler.
Luke Bailey
Fritz >>>>> Hans
Compare the genuine dance rhythm and delicate articulation in this youtu.be/j_OWF_0NRtk
To the Karajan-meme MIDI-rhythm and molto tenuto strings in this youtu.be/kGkI6zjPuB8
Jesus fucking Christ that's jarring and lazy, cutting from the original goal-directed harmony to those simple left hand ostinatos and stereotypical 3 3 2 diatonic rhythms.
Do we have any organists in the house? are there any 'essential' resources recommended for someone interested in learning more about the history of organ construction, or acoustics in general?
Austin Cox
Gave the Scherchen another listen and while I certainly enjoy the - at times very violent - interpretation, I still feel like it's just a bit too scrappy at points to the detriment of my enjoyment. The first movement probably suffers the most - the orchestra can obviously barely keep up with Scherchen. Still, it's an incredibly unique reading.
Jeremiah Collins
What are the classical inspirations for this piece of music? Wagner?
