/prod/ production general

I have no idea dude, otherwise I wouldn't have asked.

how do i make music like mgmt's new album? ive been making decent hip hop/rnb and okay edm for the past couple years but i cant nail down that 80s synth sound?
what kind of equipment do i need? right now im just using a bunch of pirated vsts and fl studio

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on that note, is there some type of online course i can take or watch that explains the ins and outs of music production and synthesizers that isnt geared towards soundcloud rappers

I would be interested in this type of stuff too.. but I guess there really is not so specific guidelines when it comes to production.

I also make synth driven music (even though it is metal), I have a real synth like Deepmind 12, but use a lot of vsts. At the moment I feel like a monkey just turning the knobs to see what happens, no actual deep understanding of waveforms or anything else

At the moment my learning process is extremely chaotic: I get a problem doing song etc and start researching the subject.

Cannot understand how many of my favorites artists managed to make so good sounding records and just perfect sounds using mediocre equipment in mid 90s without any DAWs, I just feel like a stupid monkey

what kind of benefit does having a real synth have compared to vsts for you?

Mid 90s was when MIDI sequencing with computers got big, with Amiga and Atari ST both being widely used platforms, and with a huge range of MIDI synths from the 80s not yet fetishised and available for cheapness. The sequencers allowed for reliable playback and accurate editing, and by using system exclusive (supported in Cubase for the Atari) there was a way to create full recall of synth parameter changes during songs. Add to that the emergence of ADAT and other digital multitrack recorders and you have a massive boost in the potential for better production and recording quality.

At the moment the biggest use of Deepmind 12 has been using it as a midi keyboard for VSTs even though how sad it might sound considering how much you can do with Deepmind if you know how to use it.

I have lots of equipment just laying around my house, I mean lots of hardware... Most of them are also expensive, good stuff. I've been to studio countless times with my old bands and projects, but I've never recorded/produced stuff on my own.

Thought this would be a walk in the park after I started building my home studio few months ago for my album, considering I have all the playback tracks ready, midi tracks to record on etc.. but the reality is that this project will probably take few years considering how beginner I am in terms of mixing, mastering

>couple years
>just now learning synths
bruh

check pastebin and watch that 90s tutorial lol
chances are you don't need any more equipment

80's is just pluck basses and pads.
more subtle pitch drift than "lo-fi" if any
chorus and phaser etc
plate and hall reverbs.... anything digital... valhalla vintage verb is an obvious choice
gated reverb on snare, drum machines of the time obviously
primitive cheesey fm, just spam presets because nobody was making shit then aside from your eno's cause those interfaces were so shit

where's the link to the pastebin?

oh god damnit, fuck op
sticky:

New to production? Read this before asking a question
pastebin.com/p2QUqMzj

GIVE feedback to get feedback.
Post WIP's in; instaud.io
or any other anonymous audio online storage website.
DON'T link to Soundcloud or youtube etc, anything that is not anonymous is considered self promotion and will result in bad feedback.

LAST THREAD

>Cannot understand how many of my favorites artists managed to make so good sounding records and just perfect sounds using mediocre equipment in mid 90s without any DAWs,
a DAW is just an emulation of a mixing board with a reel to reel deck and tape cutting station.

>confusedanimegirl.png

Thoughts
vocaroo.com/i/s17j4GKFtIJg

You going for legit 80s or synthwave 80s?

im gonna go make some music you guys

I might do the same once I'm home from work

yes

Is it necessary to keep a DI track playing along with the amp'd bass sound?

thoughts on this' eq? i'm feeling it needs a multiband comp with tons of thin bands because at each bar there's a different ugly resonant frequency. but im not sure if it's fine and i'm just being picky. it's a di signal with mb comp and a bunch of eqing. on top of that there's heavy compression just so you can hear it better for the purpose of feedbacking on this eq/mbcomp question (which now i'm doubting if it's actually useful - an ugly resonance could be masked by the compression that makes it not so loud)
heres the clip
instaud.io/3M6t

jesus christ fuck off sammy
you're just making it worse
go mix it with a song around it, this is fucking pointless

Yeah deffo a multiband comppressor, you're gonna need like 32 bands minimum.

i'll need the bass with a nice stable spectrum for the mix anyway, so i'm working on it now while the rest of the band doesnt record their parts.

what you want me to do? to cut 300hz on the eq when that freq buzzes for 4 beats and leave the rest of the track sounding lacking in that freq for the rest of the song?

he was making fun of you dude

i know, know all retard

clyp.it/4sherest

are these drums trashy enough?

No, I want you to automate the threshold and ratio on 32 compressors for the duration of your track.
I'm considering this to be the /prod/ equivalent of the "our fathers" you should do as penance.

Nah, I can still tell the difference between your hat and snare. Also your low end is lacking.

i dont get it

>Also your low end is lacking
the low end in the song comes more from the synths tho i don't want the drums to make shit too muddy, but here's another crack at it (also includes the rest of the song)

clyp.it/obd2df2k

This is pretty good so far isnt it? I'm trying to make it even and with no harsh resonances, before adding more instruments. instaud.io/3M7X

Is this good so far? I'm trying to make it even and with no harsh resonances, before adding more instruments. instaud.io/3M7X

guitar out of tune
nothing is in time lol

bro record it right and don't try to fix it with mixing

>before adding more instruments

...at which point all of your careful EQing will go out of the window, unless you neuter all subsequent instrument recordings so that they don't clash with the guitar and bass.

Stop now, and wait until you have the rest of the stuff recorded before making any more changes. Yes, they're good enough recordings as they are right now, but they *will* have frequencies in there that will clash with other shit so you'll have to change them once everything else is kicking.

of course i'll need to do cuts for the other instruments to fit but i wont have to build the bass tone from scratch.

Fair enough, but I'd argue that you're approaching this like a guitarist and not a producer, which has always been your flaw. You'll have crafted this sound in your bass and because of that you'll try to protect it and instead will make changes to the other instruments to try to get them to fit, without considering the whole mix.

i love showing my music to you guys because i have no music people in my life and nobody can tell me if something is good or not so you guys are very important to me okay no homo

no, i dont do that with just the bass, i do it with all instruments

at least you have a life

you shit sucks, go somewhere else

y-you just hurt m-my f-feelings!

can you guys post more im trying to procrastinate

gimme a sec and i'll post a song just 4 u

... get it together go write music broooo

i can't because it's my singer that played these instruments

youre right ill make something

SO TELL HIM WHAT THE FUCK
if you actually want to sound good you don't just do 1 or 3 takes and be like "well that's close enough!" you sit there until you KNOW what you played sounds right

(:

they're drug addicts and dont like practicing

drop those fuckers

inb4
>i have no friends
>i'm depressed
>there are no other musicians here
etc

do not care
you're full of excuses

we sat for like an hour to get that bass take because the bassist couldnt get it right so the singer/guitarist played it and then when i considered recording it with other gear the singer went oh you wont make me do this again will you lmao

>you're full of excuses
what excuses, it's them not me
when i record my own covers i sit getting each track right for hours and edit it into the grid if necessary

sounds fun

are you ironic
>oh you wont make me do this again will you lmao?!

Does anyone else get partial writer's block? Like, you start a song and get a few tracks laid down, but go blank on the rest, or you write the music, but draw a huge blank on the lyrics? I have been doing that a lot lately as opposed to when I went in big spurts of writing.

Anyone got any advice?

>kys faggot

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i've had it really, really bad for about a month, exactly as you described.
really weird because i'm usually multiple songs a week or day type prolific

just ended yesterday... full song
and resampled it into something else today, completely new :^)

I wish I had advice, shit's a mystery

i don't write lyrics

with a metronome for reference
instaud.io/3M9b

ive been having a hard time this past month or so but im just gonna keep listening to new music and change up my workflow and it should pass

it's ok

how do u start your melody/chord writing? with a scale? how do u jam?

think of a melody then write it down.

Just sit down at the piano or guitar and shit something out without thinking too much.
You'll need to play hundreds of pieces first though. Get going. imslp.org

i choose a mode and then poke around till it sounds good

cant do it bruv, i rarely have a melody in mind. just chords

trying to combine heavier guitar with drum breaks any feedback?

clyp.it/00nhfnj1

>clyp.it/00nhfnj1
Listen to Hella

them and atari teenage riot are my main inspos machine girl too

lol i thought mega drive music was mono

can someone help me come up with an artist name I want something edgy like GHOULCOCK or GHOSTCUNT but less derivative

KA$PUR

Set a scale on my quantizer
Send a bunch of cv to it until it sounds musical
Run the output to 4 different oscillators all into a quad low pass gate being controlled by 4 lfos in different musical timing divisions of the tempo
Sum that into a LPxBP filter
Then put a beat on and turn that filter frequency knob for hours man

Are you the reasonfag?

all you had to do was say "scale quantized synth to rhythmic lfos" instead of trying to sound all complicated lol

i spit

TFW I'm self-employed in the music biz and it was my dream, but now I actually just want to be under obligation to nobody and make bloops and garden

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thats not edgy at all and I'm not trying to stick with a ghost theme those are just the two examples I thought of

thoughts on this short loop? trying to work on my mixing skills
instaud.io/3MaF

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>trying to work on my mixing skills
i can tell you panned to cover up what was clashing, don't do that

didn't even realize there was a bass until my third listen lol

make your own name u goober
if anybody makes a good name they keep it

yeah this is complete ass but i would be interested to see what you made in a few years if you continued this sound
good proto-meme sound around 52 seconds in i see you

is the panning too much? how could i go about unclashing in another way?

when people regurgitate to you "MIX IN MONO XD" it's not just about phase, it's about not tricking yourself into thinking your arrangement and mix are well separated when really if you hear it playing out speakers or whatever instead of headphones it still sounds cluttered; so fix that in mono

you can push something up or down an octave, you can eq, you can get rid of, whatever

instaud.io/3MaU

I got u senpai.

genocidal crucifixions

>make your own name u goober
I was gonna go with "CUNTBOY" and then I realized everybody would think I'm a faggot.

niggers are gay and retarded and trap fucking sucks

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How's the production on this?

thanks user, good advice

hey /prod/, suck my dick!

we already think you're a faggot

>clyp.it/ip0xndtw
your vocal tone sounds like a yowling cat, sorry bro. Nailed millennial meme production (kinda)

Reading chapter 1 of Counterpoint in Composition
rate my cantus firmus

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me to

i don't know what's happening, I get really lazy after putting down a few tracks for some reason too

post music

bass too loud and muddy

Lil Auschwitz

instaud.io/3Md1

just steal a short phrase from a song you like and call it a day

good kits for nontrap hip-hop?

find a pack of breaks and download a bunch of old records

SOULSHAFT
PRINCE ALBERT'S GHOST
SPECTRESTIFFY
GEISTGIRTH
PHALLICPHANTASM

clyp.it/0hztfefi

>really helpful user from thread or two ago links you to material that will help you learn how to write melodies
>too much of an adhd brainlet to read informative text and immediately get bored reading it

i feel like i've failed him

*casts resurrect spell*

Just drop some letters and roll with it, like STRFKR.

Teach me counterpoint so I can.

>sometimes dead is better

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business idea: an F1 themed rap album
the plan is to get sued by the FOM for using official graphics and become famous because of that

How do I get a bumping bass sound? Using an actual bass of course. You know what I mean. The type of bass that bumps up on the initial hit? It must be a different instrument thats being layered right? Example: youtube.com/watch?v=pnY7m5CK-as

>ampsim
It's bad

Meme of the day

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pathetic

>real instruments
>on /prod/

Meme aside probably look no further than standard issue bass gear, like amps, eqs, and comps.
I think it's more of a playing style sound but I don't play bass so I couldn't tell you how.

Flatwound strings do that, more click and less sustain.

Isn't that just the difference between a pick and fingered?

bump

jfc somebody please post i've been anxious out of my head just writing this song for the last hour and a half distract me please :(((((((((((((((((

Sorry friend, I'm around but I'm fucking around in my DAW.
So far I made a trap loop then abandoned that to make a meme generative setup.
I do actually plan on working on a full track but I may just get distracted sandboxing again.

Have you guys done your ear training practice today?
You practice every day right?
teoria.com/en/exercises

all good man :S

I feel like shit and my eyes are wet but i've been more productive in the past 3 days than the previous month so lol :(

for wat?

we don't play in bands or need to transcribe notes

Stupid question?
How do you typically EQ an SM58?
It usually sounds dull so I'll add a high shelf at 3k at 6db but it doesn't sound right.
I might invest into a e835 or e935.

So you can understand what other people are doing and incorporate it into your own music.
Also to 'transcribe' the melodies in your own head.

Here's my attempt at fixing the incorrect firmi on page 12 of Counterpoint in composition.
rate my firmi

read the book?

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does anyone else fear the record button?

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These are the original bad CFs if anyone else wants to try improving them.

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no but I mapped my midi controller to session record in ableton (not the timeline) so when i end up hitting record while actually arranging the song i always forget it won't work and about 1/10 times it just straight up records a blank clip for some reason and it's like fffffffffuck man!!