>"All punks should be apolitical or right wing." - Johnny Ramone
When and why did punk primarily become the refuge of oversensitive, sheltered consumerist weaklings with cookie-cutter college liberal beliefs like Green Day?
Also Johnny stealing Joey's girl is a classic example of conservacock > libcuck
the Ramones were also trash
name one modern punk band
Punk has it's merits but is largely gay, politics don't matter in rock
popular music is made to serve capital, obviously the ramones would be bootlicking scum
>He calls punk gay
>Posts poison
I suppose when the Brooklyn waterfront started being bought out.
Who's Joey?
Joey Ramone, the singer
Well said my fellow magapede. This is the real face of punk, get over it libtards.
kek. That photo pretty sums it up.
Joey is a liberal?
whatever the dominant ideology is of the time, punk will always reflect the underdog one. bc its about rebellion anyway
we're in a weird period post-internet tho where things are more of a mixed bag and the scene is more fractured
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He wrote this as a critique of Reagan
>the only way to be punk in california is to be a republican
it was contrarian and edgy to be a leftist to stick it to your parents/the state in the 80s, 90s and 2000s, however, things have changed but retards keep perpetuating this falsity as if it were absolutely true
The fact that it triggers you only prove them right.
t. leftist
why do people love to act as though the only right-wing ideology is that of boomer neoconservatism as opposed to something like fascism/reactionarism, which is equally if not moreso dissident and edgy than practically any form of leftism, especially today
>When and why did punk primarily become the refuge of oversensitive, sheltered consumerist weaklings with cookie-cutter college liberal beliefs
The Clash.
I guess the point is that the people who say "conservatism is the new punk" are boomer conservatives.
>punks
>punks should
not very punk
Sex Pistols were unironically the most punk band to have ever existed
sure but op never said that and it was attacked as a strawman, as if no one can question the current state of punk without being a jordan peterson/pjw boomer
It's the inability to process criticism from someone who isn't a neoliberal globalist who pays lipservice to Evangelicals.
Punk used to be liberal because it was the minority political stance, now that literally every form of media and the majority of the public and the government is liberal, punk is right wing. At its roots punk was highly individualist, liberalism used to be focused on individual rights in defiance of the government and conservativism. Modern liberalism is highly collectivist, and conservatism has become synonymous with individual liberty in defiance of the government minus maybe abortion.
When corporations like Nike are parroting liberal ideals, agreeing with them is extremely not punk. You can't "fight the man", when you are the man. It's just funny as fuck to see millionaire "punks" telling people what to think. They've become the very thing they hate, and cant cope.
just because capital coopts all things and tries to coopt integrity doesn't mean you throw integrity out the window and doesn't mean you are 'parroting the man'. get out of your non-dialectical orwell think-hole.
I love fascism. Hitler was the second greatest man to ever live.
And even abortion could arguably be seen as an individualistic argument, it's kind of protecting the individual rights of an unborn child, vs the idea that you're protecting the right of the mother to murder it. Considering that 85% of all abortions conducted by planned parenthood are for "lifestyle concerns" and not about the risk of life for the mother or child, it's pretty reasonable to state that the overwhelming majority of abortions are quite literally murdering a healthy child, and I'm not sure if killing children is punk per se.
>b-but my beliefs are genuine and theres aren't! i'm still a punk!
spoken like a true bootlicking conformist faggot
Very punk my guy.
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Killing children is punk af
that makes menstruation a crime.
and all war should stop.
and everyone be vegan.
and stop jerking off.
and no death penalty.
and stop all global inequality and poverty.
"murder" - its not a fucking person til it has brain activity. its a possibility. fuck you and your shit ideological language that you think makes for rational discourse.
go sniff your fingers
nice meme pile you substitute for thought.
>reddit spacing namefag
fuck off already, you annoying low iq faggot
Agreed, everybody else wanted to be Sid so fucking bad.
I bet your whole head smells like the ballsack of the bull that face fucks you and your mother.
This song is too repetitive for me.
That's some really subpar trolling, m8.
NAZI PUNKS FUCK OFF!
Punk rock is about REAL ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT ideas that are endorsed by academia, the entertainment industry, multi-billion dollar corporations like Google and Facebook, and other dominant western power structures!
If you think for yourself, get ready to taste a bike lock in the back of your head!
Well, not really, because you're equating normal biological and unavoidable functions with something that takes deliberate and intentional acts(procreation) to make. Veganism I wont debate as more humane, obviously killing things to eat them is cruel, but there's a purpose behind that as far as survival goes. Unless you're eating the aborted babies like Alex Jones would suggest. I think you need to graduate high school and spend more time on reddit before you try and debate anyone with your lame strawman arguments and banal "gTfO wItH tHaT" facebook-tier political discussion. You still have yet to explain how it could possibly be punk to agree with the majority, to include mega corporations, while also actively attempting to silence the opposition via mob tactics and the labeling of certain idealogies as inherently irrational(see: transphobia. Nobody is scared of trannies lol). Neoliberalism is left wing Mccarthyism, where the right wing strangled the left but labeling them as communists with inherently irrational ideas, so does neoliberalism and it's obvious in the rhetoric that you yourself use. Take a logic course next semester, you'll benefit from it. Maybe.
Only early on, they became consumerist garbage and embraced it pretty quickly.
> Nobody is scared of trannies
Speak for yourself, m8. Vid related.
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Going the way of Sid, Darby Crash or GG Allin makes for cool adolescent mythology, but at the end of the day you're living for nothing, you're dead from a drug overdone, and it sucks.
in secular society we try to fill the hole where religion used to be, so we can avoid being like that. punk rock does it with politics (utopian anarcho-communism usually, white nationalism in the case of RAC).
>politics don't matter in rock
You too can be punk, for a small fee of 20 to 22 burgers.
your stank face doesn't need trolling.
You're mistaking revulsion for fear. I'm disgusted by vomit, I am not afraid of it.
integrity is earning your own money, not using the government to steal it from others at gunpoint because you're jealous of people who have more stuff than you.
Solid dubs, but they're mostly underground, in my town we have Barette, Mercy, Girl Pusher, NeoCortex, Mind Funeral, there's more and better ones but these are all I can think of, and they each broke up five times already
Punk is a dead clown, its corpse paraded through the streets
It's barely a crutch to stand on
fucking lol. talk about insufferable idiocy.
get out of grade school so I can kick your ass without feeling bad.
im sorry, what argument with whom are you participating?
Check, and, mate.
I'm actually talking about being afraid of getting beat up by a 6 foot Chad tranny. Maybe it's just my country being a shithole, but trannies are well known for stabbing people for little to no reason here.
If you're going to have an autistic stick up your ass your whole life you might as well have fun while you're at it
Kek now that's funny. People in my country are only afraid insofar as interacting with them and mistakenly committing some micro aggression that will get them labelled as a nazi on social media and fired from their jobs, like not letting one into a bathroom with their daughter or whatever. Desu we are just waiting for them to kill themselves
>mindless profanity
yup that's an autistic leftist alright
