Seriously you literally cannot be a leftist and like black metal

Satanism is literally a leftist ideology

but why? if you enjoy the music then just listen to it instead of having to listen to artists with same morals as you

i dont like nazis too but if i find one who makes good music then ill listen to it

Hey if someone chooses to not listen to an artist for their politics, so what? Just "Be chill"

>modernist
do you know what that word means cause the way you are using doesnt make any sense...

Honestly I agree. Almost all leftist black metal is a shitty joke while the NSBM stuff is often genuinely great. Getting into the pagan heritage and nationalism is fun, lyrics about protecting the fatherland just feels very black metal.

go back to plebbit you tranny

Lmao, you realize Anti-fascism is just another form of fascism.

...

i like black metal and i'm red/green. i'm not tied to a specific party, i vote whatever's best at the time of voting.

wow that is a scenario I can totally see happening in reality, and did and is real and honest

Why do you think nazis should be denied a platform?

Retard

Fenriz is a liberal

That shitter account is so embarrassing
White tranny kid retweeting malcom x pics daily

t. boomer-tier understanding of politics
Left wing and right wing are purely economic descriptors
Hitler wasn't even comparatively right wing compared to both US political parties today

Power trip isn't black metal but also who cares

Nazbols aren't leftists, they appropriate the language of leftism to appeal to certain elements of the working class but they love imperialism and want to maintain capitalism in poor countries so they can sustain their petty bourgeois lifestyles in Europe and North America

i dont think they should be sensored. i think people who disagree with the principles and tenants of naziism should not support nazi musics.

>if you enjoy the music then just listen to it instead of having to listen to artists with same morals as you
why there is so much music in the world and tons i like and can support morally. why bother listening to music by terrible people?

nazbol is why we need a 3d political compass

>i don't think they should be sensored

then what does
>why give nazis a platform when you could just not?
mean?

my definition of what it means to be left-wing was pretty damn wide though. it is most definitely modernist and striving for progress. it's what sets it apart from the right-wing which is either reactionary or advocates the status quo. his whole ideology is by definitoin reactionary since he's not just anti-progressive but also anti-modernist. he is only anti-capitalist because he basically wants to return to a pre-capitalist kind of society. which still has classes. he's not left-wing just because he calls himself that.

well yeah i guess. thats cool

You are objectively wrong. Nazbol are on the left end. Militancy is in no way exclusively right or center

Not really desu they're just social democrats with the racism cranked way up

communism and anarchism cannot exist with social hierarchies of gender and race. they are tools of fascism and capitalism to create exploited classes.

good. people who like politics aren't able to appreciate art anyway

the political compass is a shit way of charting ideology though

>my definition of what it means to be left-wing
It's your definition. Not the definition. That's why it's wrong.

>they appropriate the language of leftism to appeal to certain elements of the working class but they love imperialism and want to maintain capitalism in poor countries so they can sustain their petty bourgeois lifestyles in Europe and North America
that's what social democrats did in Europe after the war

Time for another 8values thread
8values.github.io

Let's go lads

even if you see left-wing and right-wing as purely economic (which i do too for the most part), my argument didn't contradict that at all. varg is right-wing because he's a reactionary. he's a reactionary because he wants to move back in history to a pre-capitalist class society instead of progressing to a post-capitalist society without classes.
no it's right actually

you're right, but hitler was still very much pro-capitalism. i think having companies like bayer building factories in concentration camps is evidence enough of his pro-capitalist nature, any socialistic side of the nazis died with strasser

>mean?
that if you are anti-nazi why actively promote someone whose ideology is harmful. im not advocating government sensorship or corporatist sensorship. im advocating ppl not allowing ideologies they disagree with and are harmful by promoting them as musicians and shit

reminder that listening to someone's music =/= supporting them

>he's a reactionary because he wants to move back in history to a pre-capitalist class society instead of progressing to a post-capitalist society without classes.
hes an anarcho-primitivist-capitalist from my understanding which is a far right system. im anarcho-primitivist communist

Imperialism isn't militancy it's the control and exploitation of poor/developing nations by rich nations and it takes the form of military interventions, wars, and coups as well as predatory lending, monopolization, and seizure of public goods by corporations

Yeah this is true

Correct and that's why social democrats aren't leftists either. Nazbols are just social democrats who are also explicitly racist and ethnonationalist and usually with some other conservative values/bigotries

nah i'm pretty sure varg explicity said that he hates capitalism. he's just a weird primitivist who wants to live in a village with only white people and strict gender hierarchies. a pretty useless ideology that will never lead to anything. he's a joke.

Watch me bitch

already took it

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Aren't even they becoming poz'd these days?

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Varg and the Black Circle were not actual satanists. watch Until the Light Takes Us.

Hajime is that you

i'm left (i think) and i like black metal because i listen to black metal for the music and not for the ideologies

the worst part of that image is the godawful band on his shirt, worst metal album(s) i've ever heard hands down

black metal is pretty bluepilled desu

You can appreciate a piece of art which portrays certain values without necessarily agreeing with those values

I hear millions of people being generalized as "leftist" but what does it even mean? Do they all want publicize capital and thats all or what?

When people on here criticize leftism and appear themselves to be right-wing, I just assume they actually mean liberals and not actual leftism.

it means he can't present non-contradictory thoughts

it's because americans fundamentally misunderstand politics and try to impose their misuse of terms as the correct way

I'm left and I think Varg is based as hell
you don't to agree with everything a person says to admire them, that's stupid

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I am (((leftist))), my fav recent band is paste noire.
Op pic faggots are literally to dumb to live and are making me more nazi than the bands i listen to.

lol what a fag

>only economics
>implying left and right don't generally share the same social politics
It's social politics too. What's with all the revisionist meanings coming from the left?

Leftism means trying to make everyone equal even though we are all fundamentally different

duh

some people want to look "woke" by denying themselves the enjoyment of something problematic

"Don't worry guys I'll take one for the team and not enjoy something because I'm insecure about it and am afraid that I'll be judged for it"

I actually remember seeing a friend of a friend being bullied for wearing a Burzum shirt on Facebook and I was too afraid to post anything in the thread to defend her so I just DM'd her and gave her some support which she appreciated. I'm a left person but some leftists are so embarrassing.

You don't have to give them money to listen to their music

>all these leftist posts
sure is summer

it doesn't mean that though or are you memeing because that is a popular meme among leftists

i don't have a problem with bm fans that just listen for the music, i have a problem with fans that just listen for the music and have to inform everyone else && virtue signal with that,
you picked the wrong genre buddy

>guys im one of the GOOD ONES please pay attention to me

The summer meme isn't real and was been debunked a long time ago idiot

also do you really go on Yea Forums? Liberals are always on here

Do any of you even listen to black metal? I swear all you know is Burzum. Black metal threads die within an hour while this pol bait gets so many responses.

What he's saying is that while that's true, it's not necessarily true that someone who believes in socialism will have progressive social views or vice versa.

no i really hate black metal

there are racist and misogynistic socialists and communists for sure. but communism exists without social hierarchies and capitalism thrives and sustains itself through them.

summer became obsolete once all the little shits got smartphones

>t. new as all fuck
Imagine not having heard anything worse than inoffensive re-thrash band #3826

Then they're economically left, and who knows what socially. It's total bullshit to say that it is only in regards to economics. The retard claims it's an American misrepresentation of the true meaning while saying conservative and liberal are the true meaning of social politics(even though we often use those descriptors for economics too), and those meanings change around the world. Left and right doesn't.

reminder all SJWs, Clinton/Obama voters etc. are right wing

I'm not a nazi, therefore I'm leftist

You're retarded OP

The fact you use words badly doesn't change what they mean

>SJWs
not really some are some arent
>Clinton/Obama voters etc. are right wing
well yes obviously supporting the american capitalist system is problematic but voting to prevent a worse outcome is ok. we still live in an imperialist, corporatist, nation regardless if its a republican or democrat

this kid is a tool but this thread is even more gay somehow

Go back to chapotrapshithouse

you're making me blush
i listen to burzum, also other bm

especially you

>listening to music that presents an ideology means you agree with that ideology

>you aren't a burger so you must be left-wing

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Because you're supposed to believe the personal is the political and everything you do must be done with consideration of the politics. Otherwise you're supporting the status quo. Anybody who says they can enjoy art for arts sake or beauty for beauty s sake is already a Nazi.

sure, but “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day. — 'Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.' — Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.”

in any case, there is no true meaning outside of context and one is a fool when not realising this simple truth

>muh burg

yikes

is it not a good look chief?

>leftism
I'm sick of this left-right shit. It doesn't work even as a generalisation.

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Too much tryhardism ITT to be h

tryhardism is only an insult for 11yolds, literally all value in the world is a consequence of tryhardisms

You're not as deep as you think, Fletcher. None of this is that deep.

This whole argument is "not TRVE leftism". Stop. It's not a sacred word or meaning, it's simple.

ah, you misunderstood,
im left, kind but i becaue i am too deep *which should also not be considered an insult for a sapient creature), im a nihilist that considers good what an educated marxist would
without the obvious antiquated flaws like the theory of value and its conseqences

Fuck communism

lmao

Trump supporters are uneducated subhuman shitbags that unironically vote against their own economic interests

yes, also trump-haters

Bernie bros are legit gigachads

bernie bros are retarded

Five more years :)

for sure
people dont get that the good he should stands for is kind of the good of internet culture general, so at least the intentions of a lot of the supporters are a lot better than the opposition's

brave
and powerful

no refunds

>he thinks the working class is left wing

i can tell you have a misunderstanding of leftism and are getting it confused with 21st century liberals. you can be a leftist and like black metal. the feel of black metal can fit with leftism. however, you can't be a liberal or any other bluepilled ideology and enjoy black metal past a surface level feeling of amusement.

calling them thrash is offensive to the genre

you have to have no understanding of politics if you think liberals are somehow ideologically similar to leftists in any way. leftists are literal anarchists/communists while american liberals are pro-capitalism centrists

Naw honey, you're the one who has it wrong. Tell me, why do chapotrapperkeepers love to shit on "liberals". They have the same ideology, they just think liberals are all talk and virtue signaling and no real action.

true,
am marxist, hate libfags

And by ideology, I mean social politics. And leftist economics are very much on the rise among American liberals.

Trump supporters & conservashits are uneducated incels who unironically vote against their own economic interests and conflate far right ideology with masculine virtue

>anarchist and communist at the same time

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But burzum is pretty good. Just pirate his stuff and don't spread the word about him if you don't want to support him. Why deny yourself good music?

>why there is so much music in the world and tons i like and can support morally. why bother listening to music by terrible people?
What if it’s because it’s fucking good? And you listen to music you like because it’s good and not for political reasons?

There’s people on both sides of the aisle who have shit opinions but unless it’s literally in their music I have no problem listening to them. Milo is a douche who is so insecure about his blackness he literally tells white people not to listen to his music. I’d probably fucking hate him if I ever met him, but the dude writes interesting music, so I don’t care.

communism was theorized as a way to get rid of the state and have the people roam free. stop getting bluepilled by your history teachers, user.

>ultimate bluepill ideology calling bluepill

anarchists and commies are literally the same ,
disregarding the methods (anarchists per proudhon dont think violet revolutioins make sense), educate yourself peasant

Stupidity isn't left or right

lol you fags love to be full-on contradictory but you only fool yourselves

ahahahahha
give nazis a platform ahhahha,
how can anyone be literally this stupid at any place & any time to swallow this propaganda bullshit, the whole fuckinf world is laughing at you kid

based

wrong. the ultimate bluepilled ideology is capitalism. you're literally taught in school to follow it. communists and nazis are taught to be evil but capitalist exploitation is "just a thing of the past"

sweaty, you have literal teen girl magazines spewing the same thing on twitter constantly these days but do you

Calling them thrash is also objectively correct, very obviously new if your opinion of thrash as a whole is a good one

>sweaty
>honey
when will all white girls be exterminated for good? no one wants to hear your retarded saying that you stole.

>that you stole
Stole from you fags to make fun of you, that's the entire point lmao

Imagine voting republican in 2019 when you are not wealthy lol

Imagine famesagging this hard
You were already told how brave and powerful you are

absolute retard. what kind of mental gymnastics are you pulling off?

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Thanks for avatarfagging, you're a simp

Trump supporters are uneducated inbreds

>simp
fucking instagramfag

lmao why do you keep disparaging your ilk?

Hitler was a leftist tho

Stop watching Steven Crowder

Why do so many working class whites vote against their own economic interests by voting republican loyalists?

The real question is why the professor would rec burzum based on a power trip shirt. Not very similar styles at all

why do so many "anons" samefag so obviously?

why do you post the same post in every vaguely political thread

>lmao you realize chemo is just another form of cancer

Because it’s important to remind uneducated people that they are voting against their own economic interests

Why is a core tenet of your belief system projection

because it never happened

There’s not even anything wrong with not listening to Burzum because of Varg’s politics as long as you’re not a self righteous dickhead about it. It’s ok to not like things as long as you don’t go around telling others how to feel.
This too

umm sweetie, emerson is cancelled for being a white male

>omg just hitler calls himself a socialist doesn't mean he is!!!1!!
>wow how can you be against a group who calls themselves anti--fascists, you must be a fascist!!!

kick rocks

seriously, you can not be epic and not listen to lounge music

power trip fucking sucks

Yes you can faggot, I'm doing it right now

value system difference
The Righteous Mind, while undoubtedly written by a libshit ~intellectual~, goes into this a fair amount and makes a pretty compelling case. actually brings up your specific non-argument and points to how rooted in hubris / non-empathy it is.
republicans appeal to a broader range of value system than democrats do and this is undeniable unless you're a hardline partisan

this

>republicans appeal to a broader range of values

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not what i said. go again.

>this thread has been x-posted from r/chapotraphouse
xD

>nazi boogeyman
Shut the fuck up homo. Not everyone right of Bernie Sanders is a nazi you insufferable piece of shit.

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