At what age did you grow out of genre tourism?

>He doesn't listen to a variety of genres on top of his own favorite to expand his tastes and truly enjoy music
Elitism and gatekeeping is cancer anyway. Nobody gives a fuck how autistically loyal you are to your genre.

you can't really talk about shoegaze without talking about MBV

they basically ARE shoegaze

I'm sorry that's it's too difficult to veer out of your lane.

you don't know what genre tourism means

Shouldn't have to. It's a retarded concept that should be forgotten.

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not being a genre tourist has nothing to do with loyalty to a genre or only listening to a small amount of genres

What does it means?

only listening to the most famous albums of many different genres without any further exploration and never developing your own taste of self curated favorites

And this is a problem because...?

>Ride
>Slowdive
>Lush
>Cocteau Twins
>Jesus & Mary Chain
>Black Tambourine
>Candy Claws
>Stella Luna
>Ringo Deathstarr
>Catherine Wheel
>Chapterhouse
>Telescopes
>Swervedriver
There is plenty of shoegaze to talk about, but people only want to talk about Loveless. It's not even the best My Bloody Valentine album.

because that means you obviously arent fucking interested enough in music to even delve into the genres you claim you enjoy and act like this is a hobby like collecting stamps you dense redditor

it discourages original taste. it’s hard to have a real discussion if I ask “what’s the best hip hop album” and everyone gives me the same shit ive heard 100s of times

There is literally nothing wrong with genre tourism
99% of any genre is just trash, cream rises to the top

I'm not denying there aren't other shoegaze bands to talk about but if you don't think that MBV were ahead of everyone else in terms of actually shaping the genre then you're simply delusional
>not even the best MBV album
please

On its face this is untrue. I'll put souls of mischief against migos any ol day, and that's the top of the top as far as consumption

we're not talking consumption we're talking legacy
don't confuse them

So you've never listened an album that wasnt vastly popular/praised and finding yourself enjoying it a lot?

>gatekeeping
>elitism
feeling a little.... insecure?

all redditors are like this
It's their coping mechanism for listening to the plebest shit
Their whole mantra is "who cares dude just listen what you enjoy haha" but anyone who dislikes what they like is an elitist poseur

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>Swervediver
based

Listen to Isn't Anything, You Made Me Realise, and Sunny Sundae Smile.
80s MBV > 90s MBV

Isn't Anything and You Made Me Realise are great, but they will never have the influence nor legacy of Loveless (because it's the better, more groundbreaking album) and there is not a single thing you can do about it

I don't care what's more popular. That's a tourist thing to care about. As a fan of My Bloody Valentine, I think Loveless is supremely overrated. It's a good album, but I prefer Isn't Anything and their EPs.
Loveless barely even sounds like My Bloody Valentine. It's missing their post-punk edge.

>album is made by My Bloody Valentine
>barely even sounds like My Bloody Valentine
>literally the album they are most known for
look mate, you're just a contrarian little shit. Your opinion is utterly fucking awful, and I think you're also probably a little bit retarded.
MBV are a shoegaze band mate - that's what everybody knows them for

THIS.

too many reddit types i come across covertly believe that listening to more obscure albums does somehow make you "cooler", but they have good enough sense not to fake their entire taste. so, they flaunt every album they even remotely like that has even a smidge below 1k rates and compulsively attempt to orient their mostly-sincere likes towards an image of loving more avant-garde and experimental music than they actually do. they are jealous of anyone who acts non-chalantly towards music off of mainstream, and project their insecurity onto them. it's remarkably pathetic and way too common.

>elitism is bad!

same with much of this board though. if you listen to post-rock but happen to dislike godspeed you black emperor you immediately get accused of being a disingenuous contrarian

wrong, but hilarious 'opinion'

why do people keep making these memes? Will every new meme be a variation of pepe or wojak?

>original taste
>listening to music is srs bzns
bet neither of you faggots can play a single instrument

not an argument

I haven't and I won't because there's a lot of good music that I've been listening to for over 2 decades that's considered "tourism"

>the album they're most known for sounds the least like them
>people ignore the rest of their catalog
You're a fucking tourist and you'll never understand. The reason a lot of people ONLY listen to Loveless is because it stands out in their discography. It sounds different from the vast majority of their work. True My Bloody Valentine fans know this. I'll take You Made Me Realise, Tremolo, Isn't Anything, and Sunny Sundae Smile over Loveless. You can't change my mind. Loveless is a good album, but it's not my favorite from them and sounds distinctly different from their previous releases.

did you just make that image for this thread?

At what age did you grow out of wojak edits?

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I remember someone posting that pic back in 2016 so he probably didn't. No one even listens indie on Yea Forums anymore scene kids are all about hiphop now.

seething tourist

Are we Yea Forums now

since discogs

get in line, faggot ebin...and pic relat ed....

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What age did you grow out of caring about genre tourists?

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I became a music tourist in my 20s when I realized the surface level of most genres is where all the good stuff is. I have never found a worthwhile artist that took digging to find, and I spent a lot of time digging.

you reek of reddit

Honestly I may as well be I came to Yea Forums during chanology.
But I think I am still correct in my assessment. Obscure bands are obscure for a reason.

why are you even here? you clearly aren't very interested in music

I listen to a lot of music, I talk about music a lot. I post in the metal thread, the Kpop thread, I did a bunch of Tyler the Creator shitposting recently. I'm the only guy that responds to that weirdo who makes Steven Wilson threads.
Also it's Saturday I'm off work and having a good time, why are you busting my balls like this?

i think ill always be a tourist. i love trying new genres. once i get entrenched and have a broad understanding i move onto another area of music to explore!

Making fun of people for mentioning well known artists is really dumb. Just try having a conversation about music without being able to compare artists to each other. If someone isn't a super fan of a band or musician you like, you're not going to have much of a conversation. People are allowed to like music as a concept without knowing everything about it

It's like you people never socialise ever

What is wrong with exploring genres? Half the fun in music is finding diverse shit, spending a day diving into a niche subgenre.

No Smashing Pumpkins?

>Ride
Ok
>Slowdive
Bad
>Lush
Ok
>Cocteau Twins
Sometimes great, sometimes bad
>Jesus & Mary Chain
Abrasive in a bad way
>Black Tambourine
Who
>Candy Claws
Isn't this more dreampop
>Stella Luna
Who
>Ringo Deathstarr
Bad
>Catherine Wheel
Bad
>Chapterhouse
Ok
>Telescopes
Who
>Swervedriver
Bad

You sound like a genre tourist yourself with those mentions

what you described is not tourism

All those bands are tourist bands. Nice try

all their fucking EPs indicate movements towards that sound you fucking moron

Teen pseuds get the fuck off my board

15 when I found the mu essential chart and started torrenting albums at random and putting them on my zune

lol when people do this and dont say anything they actually like

go back to r/eddit

I like shoegaze and I don't understand people that always list Ride, Slowdive, Chapterhouse etc. It's just MBV but boring.

Honestly I didn't become a genera tourist until I came to Yea Forums. Once I moved past top 40 radio and dad rock I realized that there's just to much music out there to waste time dwelling on a single genera for more than a couple weeks at a time.

im a proud globe trotter tourist. im always exploring music and rarely pigeonhole myself into anything specific. i know a wide variety of music and canonical albums from different scenes, genres, eras, geographical locations and times etc. i prefer hearing something completely new to similar things from more obscure artists within the same genres and scenes im already familiar with

Then ask "What are some great hip hop albums that are lesser known/discussed?". Of course people are going to mention the same few critically albums if you ask what the best ones are

>same few critically albums if you ask what the best ones are
for all the genres i like i would rarely consider the most popular or acclaimed to be the best

you think that 90% of real hip hop fans are going to have the same four artists for answers unless specified against?

Well in the genres I do listen to, my favourites include the most critically acclaimed works and also lesser known stuff. The popularity of it isn't a variable in whether I like it or not. Rather that goes down to the actual music itself like the melody, rhythm, lyrics to a lesser extent, etc. You seem like you actively place higher preference to more obscure works just because they're more obscure when that shouldn't even play a factor

I don't lurk hip hop threads since I don't listen to it but I would bet that every thread is a mix of the critically acclaimed stuff and lesser known stuff that is reflective of the personal tastes of the user that posted it. Because the critically acclaimed artists are constant, but the anons posting in those threads are always different and so are their personal tastes, that means every thread is going to have the same popular artists posted along with different obscure artists

No

You guys talk about not being a tourist yet you guys dont even understand music. You guys probably cant play instruments let alone read sheet music if you cant do these this means you're a music tourist and the standards you place upon others are meaningless.

>You guys probably cant play instruments let alone read sheet music
I can. what now?

RAWWW TEN BILLION REPLIES I LOVE JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE

Then what I said doesn't apply to you

You guys give me reccs regularly so it's hard to be a tourist at times.

All genres have very little quality material within.

How does playing an instrument relate to understanding music? Is this the "You couldn't do any better so don't complain" argument? That's the logic of a defensive crybaby who can't handle criticism.

Usually someone that understands music will have honed that understanding from playing one or more instruments.

You literally just contradicted yourself how can you call other crybsbys by placing your retarded standards onto them and once someone does the same to you you start crying about it.

genre tourism isn't a real thing you fucking retarded cum sucking faggots

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cope harder, tourist

can't be something that isn't real

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Cocteau twins is not shoegaze. Maybe later albums are influenced by it, but something like victoriand could never be confused with shoegaze

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If you’re on this decomposing carcass that claims to be Yea Forums in the year 2019, you’re ultimately the worst kind of tourist that exists- the kinds that hates other tourists while being seemingly oblivious to their own status.

Nothing you’re doing by browsing this board advances yourself as a musician or an appreciator of music. I can guarantee that the majority of you have only interacted with music itself through this board- nothing you’ve done has inspired you to go on and create music of your own, explore your own music scene, and develop your own, individual taste, apart from whatever is considered Yea Forumscore now.

If you truly want to prove yourself as not being a tourist, leave this place. Stop seeking the approval of internet anons in the exact same boat as you. You’ll find yourself better off as a person regardless of what the outcome is.

why are you still here?

He never said Yea Forums was bad just because some parts are bad doesn't mean everything is bad you can still get some good recs in a sea of shit recs.