Young millenials and zoomers seem to prioritize atmosphere, above all other elements, in their music...

It started back in the 60s with Wall of Noise production

In popular music, the emphasis has shifted from songwriting to production.
There's a great paper someone wrote about this. I'll see if I can dig it up.

All the bands in the collective made their commercial debuts in the late 2000s and the 2010s.

please, watch your language

this is your last warn

music isn't for the feels, and production is made to manipulate you

break free from the shackles of consumerism fellow zoomer

>what's the cutoff for zoomer?

Do you remember 9/11 or anything prior to it?

I remember being alive at that time but I didn't pay attention to the news

>music isn’t for the feels
what’s it for then?

wow you're a braindead retard

trust the system

i completely agree though i don't think i can contribute anything meaningful to the discussion
i don't see it as being a necessarily negative development though
it seems to be a trend beginning with recorded music and exacerbated by the advent of electronic music in its earliest incarnation - this is also a noteworthy development in this trend
perhaps it's something to do with the diminished role of notation as a method of conceptualising music in favour of composition through recording (particularly in the pop music realm)
others have cited the influence of DAWs
i would imagine notation tends towards a more rigid compositional structure due to it being a written language and not the thing itself whereas the immediacy and ability to hearback a recording with a DAW (or even an eight track and other more modern reocrders/workstations) takes into account more textural, 'atmospheric' elements that notation would struggle to account for

i don't think emphasizing production or a "vibe" over melodies or witty lyricism means that millennials or whatever aren't interested in form though. pop music from (probably) the 50's onward has been all about the artifice of the studio (there's a cool presentation that this guy Albin Zak gave at the RnR Hall of Fame on youtube that talks about this) which means that production and "vibe" becomes a formal quality just as much as melodic/harmonic qualities.

Jesus christ this. It's either the same repetitive chill vibe, or making wacky random noises for the sake of it. The art of composition is really out of style right now, and it fucking sucks.

Explains why zoomers tend to love kid a so much

Daws kill imagination, writing ignites it

based zoomers, words and meaning are unironically overrated

rude

>words and meaning = music

composing a truly Good atmosphere takes as much talent (if not more) than constructing a good melody. in that book the rules have been written for years and years, and each is more derivative than the next. in atmosphere you have melody, but also anything within the possible limit of Sound Itself. being entertained by letters is for the peabrained. but above that.. is true Ascension.

recent pop music sucks dick though

>Young millenials and zoomers seem to prioritize atmosphere, above all other elements, in their music
Wrong. That's just confirmation bias.

based

As a zoomer I can assure you they're really popular amongst other zoomers
AC/DC and Guns n Roses, on the other hand

*sits on the sofa with his arms spread open*
*cracks a cold one*
Yep, kids these days are all about gay shit like the atmosphere and all that frilly additional shit like the mastering and the samples. How did this generation get so lazy that it uses samples? I don't want my son to go around stealin other folks' music like a damn commie. Man, back in the day it was different. The soul was in the chords. We sat around and listened to the licks man. We practiced each day to perfect that damn guitar. We all had a dream. What do these kids dream about? They talk about doin' meth over two computer beats and they get signed up by some big record label. They don't care about the truth anymore. This isn't music. What happened?
*sips*
*Godspeed You! Black Emperor plays in the distance*

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Every new synth video on youtube is just a volca going into a strymon bigsky and they call that 'ambient'. It's so sad also this soi abomination that is blackgaze.

>or making wacky random noises for the sake of it
There's nothing inherently wrong with this.

how is this new to you fags? it's literally what chillwave and witch house were about 10 years ago

Hasn't there been enough music theory through analog for the last couple centuries? There are only so many chords, melodies, etc, why not let the digital age explore itself and let it run its course like analog?

Literally #mood #aesthetic #vibe
Teenagers have always used music to identify themselves with and now they also get to explore themselves while curating their social media presence, so aesthetic and vibe is what's going to stand out and speak to them before anything else

Melody and harmony have been sufficiently explored our time is one of timbre. Not sure how I feel
About it

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anecdotally, i agree but i don't feel as though i can speak for anyone else
i use an 8 track to compose though and find that opens up way more possibilities than writing in a conventional singer-songwriter sense - although i suppose by writing, you mean composing through notation

>music isn't for the feels

For you

ladies and gentlemen, the retardation of the average /classical/ dumbass...

>Metal:
>youtube.com/watch?v=V8ia-nyd_K8
how is that metal

I don't know but it sounds fucking awful.

I'm 22 and only vaguely remember 9/11 because my dad worked as PM for BMS Cat and was in charge of a large portion of the cleanup of not only the 9/11 attacks, but also flight 587 in queens. Every time I meet someone my age who says they remember vividly I get pretty suspicious.

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based

idc say whatever just dont talk shit about die lit

There's nothing inherently good about novelty either.

>production is made to manipulate you
do you have a fucking clue what production even is? you cant have recorded music without some form of production.

bump

Sensory aesthetics over musical substance, yes that is certainly the case and it’s why it’s probably harder than ever to find good music being made.

sensory substance over musical aesthetics,
yep thats probably why zoomer music is so much better

I think andy stott does a good job at mixing the two, at least on songs like Faith in Strangers & New Romantic.

Luxury Problems is wonderful.

you are retarded and throw random words together thinking you are clever

Not my fault your vocabulary is lacking and automatically think anything you don’t understand is random words thrown together. Stay in school

his past 3 albums (and to a lesser degree his 2 LPs before that) are really incredible, wish i could find similar music.

It's all nonsense. I'm 22 in a couple of weeks and consider myself a millennial because I knew a life before smartphones and social media, not because of remembering some terrorist attack that barely affected my country

That doesn't explain why radiohead is so popular amongst zooms and mills.

I was like 4 when 9/11 happened, but i do remember the day saddam hussein was hanged as i was in the same room as my dad when he was watching the news

Quit using "analog" as a synonym for "non electronic" for fucks sake