/prod/ - music production general

absolutely

Fl studio should be S tier, name one fucking thing it does not as well as ableton

In fact, fuck ableton, garbage ui compared to fl's buttery smoothy candy simple Ui that software is TRASH

seriously, do you know how fucking easy it is to drag a sample in from edison using fl? Do you know how god tier edison is? Fuck ableton's whack ass splicing and sampling system

yikes

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can't think of a good way to end this, so I just faded it out. does it sound ok?
some kind of full-sounding reverb chord section

Just slap on a big fat bright B major.

>no macros
>no max
>sequencer is basically ableton clips but you have to click more to actually alter midi

fl studio has nice shit and has advantages but saying it's anything other than slightly bloated compared to other daw ui's is dumb af man

Ableton can run most of FL Studio's shit but FL can't run any of Ableton's.

Imagine choosing FL in this day and age instead of torrenting the Image Line plugin bundle and having the best of both worlds in Ableton lmao baka senpai.

Hey friends, look what I found on Reddit!
Oh man, the nostalgia...

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>nostalgia
upvote if you remember pre-demarcus /prod/ xD

>no max

You mean a max volume control? Fl has that
>not using the legacy block system
Lel

To the peeps asking about the sophie sounds
youtu.be/jkVTOjNOvxw
I think this is how that family of sounds is made.
Sorry that its a noodling video but the main idea emerges fairly quickly

man i love lfos

futurebass.jpg

if you think about it, everything is an lfo

good sound. that sounds more like the metal stuff but i don't think that's really "rubber," but maybe if you tweaked it a bit more

>You mean a max volume control? Fl has that
u trollin doggo

Can you timestamp me from a tune? I'm willing to try now that the other guy flaked out. Just not enough of a sophie expert and figured this was the one they were after.

FrOm LaSt ThReAd

youtube.com/watch?v=RBGYQnjxMmI
the timbre is kinda??? on youtube.com/watch?v=WyX-PRqzV78

it's more about the timbre

STOP GIVING AWAY MY SECRETS WHAT THE FUCK

(copypasted from an archived post)
Listen to the Product album. It's full of those rubbing sounds.
Basically all the songs on the album have a bit of that sound (like in some of Lemonade's fast bubbles you can hear it works similarly but with a different timbre).
Like the intro of this:
youtube.com/watch?v=WyX-PRqzV78
Or the sounds throughout this (that some times sound kinda like brass and some times like rubber):
youtube.com/watch?v=KXdRl6Ml37I

Or from her newer stuff:
youtube.com/watch?v=uERIXLWeik0
(you can hear a similar sound at 0:30 after the voice says "face" or whatever, and it appears again later).

youtube.com/watch?v=lZ6ppVyWgCI
(you can hear that type of sound at 3:31 but it's not really morphing independently so the timbre only changes with its normal envelopes and it's not as apparent)

good quality content. thanks for sharing m8

Depeche Mode Trap

serumfags on suicide watch

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>that damn DAW

PH released a thing late last year that generates notes to key randomly based on some selectable parameters.
So I got a preset from Grain, randomized 8 bars of melody and made it take up more space with a nice reverb and a rhythm chopping thing (I don't have Grossbeat).
The only notes I wrote were for the drum machine pattern changes and the obligatory Boomer Bass preset (the 808 in the intro/break).

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I wrote another song.

I was listening to the gospel station on Sunday and I noticed they just repeated shit forever.
Needs some improve over the rests.

instaud.io/3JSE

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I wrote an optional B section so it wouldn't be so repetitive.

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great now i cant stop listening to ponyboy

not clicking because southpark

hot video too ;))))

>not whole new world
I jerked off to those vocals once. Better than the rubber sounds (which only give me a chub).

I've never listened to this guy before -- is this for real? Just throw samples of juicy farts into a wavtable synth.

>the month is closing and i'm coming up short on my song per month quota
I'M A FAILURE EVERYTHING I'VE DONE THIS MONTH HAS BEEN SHIT FUCK

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>LOL 4 realz rubber is easy just ....
>ends up not being able to do it or post their success

every time

I honestly don't know what South Park reference is. Sorry I offended you.

I listened to the top track and that did not sound like rubber at all. It sounded like straight up farts.

>Sorry I offended you.
FOOKIN STAHP

the joke of the epsisode was that christrian rock was just a shittier version of generic love songs with all the "you" and (girls names) changed to Jesus

Dude, that's not a joke, that's just real life.

okay so do it

I wasn't even thinking about writing a romance song, I just wanted to write a repetitive generic gospel song.
Sorry I'm double post lol I'm not 100% sober.

Is this track chill without being boring? I didn't want to get into full ambient-wankery, but I wanted something really chill and mellow. Something for godless potheads to listen to as they enjoy their jazz cabbage, I guess.

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If I use FL Studio to write my patterns, but arrange, mix, and master in REAPER, does that make me somewhere in the low-B, high-C tiers? Or am I just an irredeemable mongoloid who doesn't deserve a spot on the chart?

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The synth around the halfway mark is kind of cheesy.
It's a little noodly. Try repeating small chunks but changing them in some way like transposing them or only keeping the rhythm.
Maybe try adding expressive dynamics.

>idm
>techno interests me

tracks over a year old but dug it up to do the mix over because i kinda like it IDK pls critique or just insult me. gonna add more drum variation for sure and maybe macro the synths to morph subtly :^)

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Also I feel like you're making a reference to my gospel song. I'm a godless pothead too, I just like gospel music.

how is my harsh noise joint doing?
(added some creepy voices)

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>instaud.io/3JSE
Makes me want to siing. Why didn't you sing?
>use FL Studio to write my patterns, but arrange, mix, and master in REAPER
Why?
t. person who writes in Reason, reworks in Schism, and finally mixes and masters in REAPER

instaud.io/3JT9

I'm not sure what to do with this. I've only had Ableton 2 weeks and I feel ready to give up.

>instaud.io/3JSZ
This sounds like background music from an old online flash game. I like it, but it doesn't really sound chill. Maybe slow it down some?

>instaud.io/3JT5
this is really good stuff. I don't know if i liked it when the arpeggio started deviating from the original root note along with the pads changing up, but liked what it resolves to around 2m in.

>Why didn't you sing?
No microphone. Also I don't think I can sing that top line even in falsetto.

>instaud.io/3JT9
That's kawaii as heck. I unironically love it.

>Also I don't think I can sing that top line even in falsetto.
I would be in my falsetto voice an octave below that part ;_;
>No mic
Don't you have a phone?

>instaud.io/3JSZ
really good. love the electric piano.
the pads are too loud and up front, try running those through a big reverb at 100%. also there is a very unpleasant note at 1:49.
please fix and repost.

Actually I do have a Zoom H4, but I how to set it up as a mic in Ableton

I don't know how to*

Ah, it isn't sounding good. Maybe I'm doing it wrong haha
Might go for a more tradional sqaure wave pluck synth as the lead, but that might be the easy route

>a very unpleasant note at 1:49.

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Thanks for the tips. I had worried that it meandered a bit too much.

When I first started making music, I was too scared to pirate anything other than music. I had the demo of FL Studio and it wouldn't save projects. So I would export patterns as .wav files then do everything else in REAPER. It just kind of stuck and I still do that despite having the full FL Studio.

What kind of flash game we talking, user? Point and click? Kitten Cannon? Stick RPG? I need visuals, man.

I can definitely do that. Thanks for the tips.

>I would be in my falsetto voice an octave below that part ;_;
It's the Octave down version of the treble clef, note the little 8 hanging off.
Probably could made the parts SATB really.

808s or 909s?

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If this was an intro track, what genre of music do you think it's leading into?

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both

bof

For me, it's the 707.

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909 is more versatile cause it sounds like a real kick

coldwave

>brought a mc 808 second hand
>the sd card slot is literally yanked out

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voila
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How do I make music like Toby Fox

web.archive.org/web/20121126213016/http://tobyfox.net/Tutorials/FLBasicTutorial.html

help
I've become so desensitized to dissonance and chaotic, insane drums that I can't tell when my own stuff sounds wack anymore

...

im rly sad anons if anyone of u would b so kind as to help me out w this id give u a hug

breakcore/darkstep/industrial drum and bass doodle from tonight

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textbook "absolutely god awful mixing/mastering"

you are a faggot and you would need to give more information for anyone to help you

Post it
Unless you did already

...

I'd rather listen to Skinny Puppy

clyp.it/pjnzdvai

posted this is the last thread, got some advice, made some changes. I think it sounds a lot better now.

What do you think?

Why don't you use the Dark Mode, user?

>yes, I don't synthesize or sample my own drums

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>Know it all faggots; except it's the blind leading the blind

Is there potential?

clyp.it/jatexfau

>enlightened user points out /prod/ is the same as every other online community
wow, thanks

low ends outta control and the whole distortion thing is kinda 2 much 4 me, just sounds blurry

>clyp.it/jatexfau
I feel like you either need to lean more into the experimental/industrial sound or the trap sound but right now it's too middle of the road. While I may not like how it sounds now, it's the first step towards something really good.

song about masculinity in 2019

clyp.it/o4z5kvie

>clyp.it/o4z5kvie
>the system that you built
not you amigo, lol. Other than that it sounds like bad, slightly homo Smashmouth. neat attempt.

stop taking your vibe so seriously and just try to compose something compelling

It's good. Just stop burying your drums under everything else.

>dark industrial library music, $20 per licensed work
Whoever said coldwave is fucking retarded.

im german i built ur world anglo scum.

how often do you get a new pair of headphones for monitoring?

You use speakers for monitoring and headphones don't just break so basically never

every 3-4 months
Just when I get used to one pair I get rid of them to keep my mixing fresh and unbiased

I want to buy a simple midi controller like the akai apk mini. I'm scared I'm going to have latency problems because my PC is trash tier. How do I know whether or not I'll have issues with it?

Midi itself has close to no latency, no matter the way it's interfaced to the computer. All the latency you get in production is on the audio i/o side of things, means the asio buffer size is the main part contributing to that
If you trigger samples/synths with your computer keyboard you'll see what that delay is like and if you can tweak the buffer size to a better latency/performance trade-off
A midi keyboard will have the same latency

Oh shit that's a good idea, thanks

the whole point is to get used to them, you're retarded m8

ditto

>instaud.io/3JTT
Unreal Tournament 2004 soundtrack

>no u

clyp.it/wbvj4jey

lol

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Somebody rate this short loop for piano and violin I made.
No hate only like pls
clyp.it/g5szliur

godly-tier
youtube.com/watch?v=FhwmT0G5EwM

enlightened buddha tier
youtube.com/watch?v=CuKANcedh_8

Is my audio interface fucked or is this some kind of settings mistake?
It's just my guitar -> zoom H4 -> ableton
I swear I played the rhythm right.
instaud.io/3K0f

Sounds great. I think 0:48 feels too resolved. Maybe put something other than the root in the bass or make it move through a tension. Or make the violin part land on a different note idk.

Check out this Somei Satoh piece for minimalist piano and violin for more ideas for this texture.
youtube.com/watch?v=nCZ-uUn-Wsw

Thanks for the feedback m8
>I think 0:48 feels too resolved
I changed it to a deceptive cadence, I think it makes for a nice two-bar pedal point
instaud.io/3K1x

>youtube.com/watch?v=nCZ-uUn-Wsw
That is one beautiful piece. Sound libraries may have come a long way but they still can't compare to actual performers

>instaud.io/3K0f
Sounds like your cable might be busted, maybe your PC is too slow (those nasty clicks/artifacts sound kinda sound like your CPU gasping for air).
Check your latency setting and compensate with offset if necessary.
Just some ideas

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drum and mix feedback pls. trash kick, hats or everything?

>..K21/delete/dc..
I'm not sure if that's how that works

>instaud.io/3K21/delete/dc5a72b967607e6939421e47c8bd5a2ca04de78b

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Is the new wavetable synth in Ableton actually useful for anything?

I threw a sample in there and it just sounded shit. I'm probably using it wrong because I'm not used to wavetable synths.

Ok thanks
I tried working with quantizing it and work with it and it's kinda neat. Couldn't actually fix the rhythm, but it's close enough.
I tried to emphasize the glitches with a compressor, but it didn't really do much.
instaud.io/3K2U

youtu.be/wUHDz9icgWo?t=266

what the heck is this voice effect called? is it some kind of vst?

Could be a chain of different effects

Easiest would be to resample a vocal, make a midi pattern, use dub delay or ableton's grain delay, add some reverb, and then layer the vocal since there is more than one vocal being played there

There is probably a VST that can do all sorts of weird effects like that but I mostly work with stock plugins

youtube.com/watch?v=BVdwCivZmDA

How do I make a track like this

>he doesn't even know how to make run-of-the-mill tech-house
Get a few good drum packs, a bread-and-butter synth like massive or sylenth1 and sample some vocals. Fuck composition, just stay on the root note for the entire song (synth chords on top are optional). Make an 8- or 16-bar loop and arrange until you like it, make sure to start your track with a solid minute of nothing but drums, adding a new element every 8 bars. After the drums are all assembled, start adding instruments every 16 bars (breakdown in the middle optional).
Fuck mastering, just throw an Ozone preset on it and tada, you can shit out song after song using this formular.

It's literally the most basic gerne ever.

Maybe I'm overthinking things too much because I really struggle to make tracks like the one I posted.

>I changed it to a deceptive cadence
? Sounds the same there. Did you upload the wrong file?

>Easiest would be to resample a vocal, make a midi pattern, use dub delay or ableton's grain delay, add some reverb, and then layer the vocal since there is more than one vocal being played there

sounds like the most logical way to reproduce this, thanks!

>make sure to start your track with a solid minute of nothing but drums
It’s not 1998 anymore, people stopped using vinyl a while ago, there is literally no reason to do this today

Also
>suggesting to make non linear music in a daw with linear arrangement
I cringed a bit

youtube.com/watch?v=ybxzoL2aaRs
who LTSC chad here?

Alright, give me the truth, can I make this equipment setup work?
H4 and upright piano.
I just put it on my bed and pointed at the piano like 5 feet behind.

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>It’s not 1998 anymore, people stopped using vinyl a while ago, there is literally no reason to do this today
Pretty much every song in this style still does this, including the one he posted. Makes it easier for DJs to beat-match and mix it in with another track to just have drums for a while without tonal elements.
Not saying that I like it, it's just a convention

>suggesting to make non linear music in a daw with linear arrangement
Fuck you, the vast majority of modern house/dance music is created inside linear DAWs

>instaud.io/3K1x
Oops, changed it in the wrong part of the arrangement.
The cadence occurs at 1:18, it's essentially the same as 0:48 with a different note in the violin

never gave it a real chance because of the bugs but I'm sure you can make nice stuff with it

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Did you make the video?
Is your CPU Intel?
Because 3 new vulnerabilities have been found recently and the security patch results in a performance reduction, so it might be that.

why do you write in such horrendous keys?

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Wow, Keyist. I don't discriminate.

can you actually play that second intervall in the left hand?

Also for this it's specifically because I started from that last chord, which I took from like chapter 2 or 3 of Vincent Persichetti's 20th Century Harmony book. It's resonant because it's the 4th overtone of E, which is built on the overtone of 3. Also the 2nd overtone of E. I didn't actually play the G notated though.

if you just drag a sample into wavetable it will automatically normalize each cycle - there's a option to revert to the "raw" sample which might sound nicer. however just throwing a random sample into any wavetable synth will sound like shit 95% of the time. but yeah wavetable is great for a stock plugin.

Yeah they're just 10ths. I'm playing 10ths in too

Wavetable synthesis is all about waveform cycles that match as closely as possible, and if you import non-wavetable samples, the detection algorithm won't necessarily create the best possible wavetable out of it.
If you have Serum, my suggestion is to load up your samples there and use its wavetable editor to make a nice wavetable (try the different import modes, as well as selecting the nicer portion/s and deleting the bad ones, then do things like normalizing, zeroing the edges, morphing to create intermediate waveforms, etc.) then export it and drag that into Wavetable.
It will give you much better results for a number of reasons, and it'll be more fun.

no I didn't, I'm on LTSC

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>just throwing a random sample into any wavetable synth will sound like shit 95% of the time

what? you can throw in literally fucking anything into serum and get something usable out of it lol

>wavetable editor
is there one available separate from serum?

Favourite synths?
My go to are Monark, OBXD, and TAL-U-NO-LX
I'm really liking Oberhiem right now
youtube.com/watch?v=NbzfDWm26Dw

10th are too difficult for me when they go from black key to white key

Massive and Absynth 5 :^)

ObXd is nice... could never find a use for monark honesty.
I hate u-no-lx tbqhwyanon i have no idea why people use that thing

I haven't been using U-NO all that often recently. I remember it being on sale and wanting to screw around with something else besides Synth1.
I find it's an all purpose synth, even though it's pretty simple.

>all purpose synth
oh god no i would die

i'd also throw synth1 in that category lol, although it's more capable of some weird sounds and niceish pads IME

Not that user, but synthesis technologies has a free one for Mac/win/Linux

>is there one available separate from serum?
Not really, unless you want to use a regular audio editor like Audacity (which is a bad idea).
Just get Serum like everybody else. It's well worth it.
You can find it on rutracker.org

Meme of the day

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that monkey stole my pizza

>"Not really"
>one post above
lol

I've got serum and i've made a fuck load of wavetables with it, i just want something where I can get more control. Also bugs

stop

Ah fuck I forgot about that lol

I also forgot about this:
glowshrimpsoftware.com/sfmwts.html
And found out just now about this:
glowshrimpsoftware.com/swtm2.html

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>glowshrimpsoftware.com/sfmwts.html
saw this a while ago but something about it kept me from downloading but I can't remember what

The glowshrimp one is a simple fm synth that exports into serum-friendly wavetables.
The other one is more like Serum's editor, but with some features missing, and I think some that Serum doesn't have (maybe I'm imagining things but I remember a 2D wavetable scrolling feature).
I remember using it for 30 minutes and never touching it again. Maybe you'll find some use for it.

>a simple fm synth that exports into serum-friendly wavetables
okay i finally looked at it and that must have been it, because that's fucking useless lol
like anybody wanting to do fm is going to use a more serious fm synth and export themselves man wtf

yeh i'll check it out thanks mang

gatesoflove.bandcamp.com/album/show

bruh stop shitposting wtf

I thought it was a bold move to start with an ironically shitty part, then I kept listening.

Eh kinda.
I find that using software with a different interface can lead to different results than usual, so even if it lacks many of the features you'd find in a normal FM synth, it can still make interesting stuff that you wouldn't get with something like FM8 (even if you totally could).
And it was fun playing around with it.

>protools in D because no one can afford it
>reaper in D because it's knock off protools

Dank, I have to work tonight but this might be my project for tomorrow.

this is boring

I like cakewalk.

awesome

>Finish some track
>think to myself this is the first thing ive made i like
>get drunk and listen back to track
>its hot garbage

most linear daw made techno is

>instaud.io/3K1x
oh well that sounds cool too.

i feel like im getting worse :|

what is the difference between “linear daw made techno” and techno made using sequencers (assuming that’s what you’re talking about). Honest question I know nothing about techno production

boo

he's probably some hardware fag that will tell you about he "magic" of performance

when people actually tweak shit live and automate the fuck out of everything techno is generally more interesting and even if it's repetitive it morphs... which you can do in a daw but the argument can be made that hardware is inherently more conducive to that workflow

so what is THE microphone to have currently?

Neuman U87
Sony C-800G for rap vocals so i've heard
SM57 still obviously

>currently
meta hasn't changed mic wise in a long time, unless you meant for the BedRooM ScENe

i think the Shure one is what i've been hearing about. thanks

>being this new
jkidz

yeah that's literally the only mic that 99% of people agree is a must have

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hey, which genre is this and how do i improve it

if i want to make hip-hop adjacent stuff but have no knowledge of theory, should i practice phrygian mode first

This is fucking trash bro.

The mix sonuds really not good (its just a cluster fuck of noises overlapping in freq range seemingly with no regard). I think my favorite part is the middle section (breakdown?) where you introduce the melodic bits. It say, Ok here's where we are developing the theme for this song. Then it drops back into the misc. cluster fuck and that concept is immediately abandoned. So I think the structure and the mixing are the weak points. There's plenty of interesting noises in there, but I think it will be worthwhile to choose to give a few of them priority at any given time. By the time the end section rolls around I have already forgotten what happened before. Its like you are trying to listen to one person talking over 30 others at the same time.

>Yeah they're just 10ths
t. plays on a mini keyboard.
There is a fuck huge difference between white-white black-black and white-black black-white 10ths.

here again.

I made most of the changes that you guys suggested, including chasing the "cheesy" synth to something that's more subdued and widened the pads with reverb. I didn't really want to change the tempo too much because I really liked this 75 BPM half-time feel.

What do you guys think now?

instaud.io/3Kbi

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A true patrician.

If you’re trying to write an actual classical piece it’s bad practice to have chord spacing larger than a ninth. Honestly even then you’re pushing it.

You mean for Classical? That phrase looks more classical (i.e. Late Romantic) than Classical.

Linear sequencing is based on the idea of composing notation for a song in beginning-end fashion. This a very common way of composing across a lot of music genres, as if you wear writing it down on paper first. This concept is so prevalent in traditional songwriting, in combination with how you’d edit recorded tape, essentially made the idea of your typical daw recording in a linear fashion, Recording begins on the left & finishes on the right.

Loop based sequencing was from a completely unrelated need. Scientists needed a way to make repetitive tasks using computers for their experiments. This created the step sequencer - something that would perform tasks in a defined pattern and then repeat. Nerds took these devices (kraftwerk) and realized if you plug them into speakers you can making musical rhythms and melodies. industry peeps got word of this and made boxes with these looping step sequencers built in for the masses to use. a bunch of these boxes together & changing up all of the settings in real time is how techno was born. So techno has always relied heavily on the performance aspect and working within the limitations of step sequencers. Techno would have never been created without these step sequencers.

Trying to produce a style of music that was birthed from the spontaneity of performance and limitations of step sequencing by using the traditional form of writing will force a formulaic approach (see formulaic advice lol) Often resulting in boring, predictable results.

Instead use something with step sequencers, check out something like ableton or bitwig. Get several looping segments going, change them in real time and record the results - you will find it very difficult to be predictable or formulaic. Get good at managing the loops/settings in real time and you will make good techno. It’s not easy to get this level of rhythmic flow in linear sequencing without lots of programming/fine tuning.

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now, how is my mix

I made better tracks than this everyday and this guy is signed n Kompakt lol

Ive been thinking about the e835/e935
I only have a 58 right now and vocals sound dull

Only a certain type of person wants to get signed. We know what's up :3

>e835/e935
i've got an e609 (comparable i'm guessing? haven't used those but it's in the same price range), as well as a 57, it's definitely brighter by comparison... especially around 4kish iirc.

Might be worth trying if you're finding your vocals aren't popping; doesn't need as much gain either

like people who actually want to be successful or

I'm writing for myself so I'll write 11ths if I want. Actually there is an 11th from the C# to F# on the downbeat of the 2nd measure how I play it on piano, it just doesn't fit on a 4 string bass.
It's bad practice if you're trying to get people to play your piece, but if you know who's playing your piece and what they can do you can pretty much do whatever they're cool with.

>check out something like ableton or bitwig
(as somebody on ableton) reading your post it literally has never occurred to me that users of other daws actually struggle with this lol

while I would certainly prefer ableton (especially because macros) imo fl studios sequencer/pattern thing aids this kind of song writing as well, although a bit more restricted

>aids
I thought you were saying fruity loops is aids. You might want to learn how to properly spell the word you were trying to spell.

are you retarded? merriam-webster.com/dictionary/aid

this isn't reddit faggot, pointing out spelling and grammar mistakes doesn't get you points

It wasn't a mistake

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fucking with syths to try and improve my grasp of theory would ideally diversifyy the melody and bass in the second half but im getting tired. thoughts? clyp.it/wc4ahqp3?token=48581f4d6aed5260f4b5722fa600693e

also anyy tips on learning piano without a teacher, singings my forte and its hard to work it into anything like this

neglected to read op will use instaud next time

I know it wasn't and god damn i miss old south park

>thoughts?
i mean it's on the high end of what anybody is expecting out of somebody who is clearly new

imo the cello should be at the front as opposed to the synth.... the music itself is fairly good but it sounds free-vst-y-preset-core

>actually reading the op
thanks (:
clyp isn't really a problem aside from a few faggots who include all their links and pictures in it, so you're not really fucking up

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Shit, I forgot the link again
instaud.io/3Kc8

>instaud.io/3Kc8
Are you a giant? I can't even stretch those chords on my keystep that has small keys and I'm fucking 6'6".

instaud.io/3Kcf

need feedback on drums. Hat sounds dry ik something i forgot and I can't be bothered to fix its just another shit project to practice on

I'm 6'0", but I think my hands you open wider than most pianists. I'm pretty sure I've run into some Rachmaninoff chords I couldn't play though.

TFW MANLET
PLAYING AN OCTAVE WITH ONE HAND REQUIRES ME TO STRETCH WTF

lmao well played. If you’re writing for yourself you do you brother

soundcloud.com/greenslap/bad-guy-greenslap-remix

>techno
>dark
>remix

Hated how goofy the original was so I decided to take the dark sexy feel of the outro and completely revamp the song. If you dig it give the account a follow. Gonna make more pop remixes.

fuck off this isn't a soundcloud thread

I guess it might have been hard to tell but I was actually playing it in too, I just messed with it in ran it through some low pass filters with some resonance at the harmonics and slowed it down.

Those chords aren't that big though. Even I can play all of them except for that Db F in the left hand.
These are on a whole 'nother level.
>resonance at the harmonics
Would you know how to achieve this sound:
youtube.com/watch?v=de8cE6FBQGY

>Would you know how to achieve this sound:
Sure, I'm new to electronic production.
I guess your referring to how the piano part kind of breaks?

How's this turning out, /prod/? Is the mix too muddy? Does the arrangement make no sense?

instaud.io/3Kcr

>mfw I spend three days editing something only to start to hate it

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Not the breaks but the texture; how it sounds like it has a glowing halo of sound around it. I know he sampled a piano and repeating the samples makes it choppy at times...
youtube.com/watch?v=mNnY4J0-gRQ
This may not be the exact recording, but it's the same piece.

>200+ posts
>People actually talking to each other
>People actually listening and offering critiques

Yeah, I'm thinking /prod/ is back.

it has its ups and downs like anything else
... cherish this time, you know the sites going to tank hard for a while toward the end of the year

major 7ths

>instaud.io/3Kcr
I mean that sustained sound behind it -- it almost sounds like a violin/viola but I'm sure this is purely piano that has been affected as it sounds similar to what was posted here: Similar, but different.

your mix is screaming for more bass

Oh, are you asking me? I bet he was just sampling a much better piano than my upright.
Really nice pianos sound amazing.

sounds like a synth with some attack and a long decay, probably with reverb

instaud.io/3Kcy

General feedback. I don't know a lot about mixing, so this is mostly experimentation. It's pretty shit though.

Sneaky. So he his a synth behind it? I'll experiment with that.
I'm pretty sure he sampled an old record that was professionally recorded on a nice piano. Yeah.
>>instaud.io/3Kcr
Nice track; it reminds me a bit of µ-Ziq

Also, this is still a wip. I haven't really done much with the composition or melody yet.

Is that intro a sample or did you play it yourself and then make it sound like you ripped it from somewhere else? It's weird because it doesn't sound professional, like there is some hesitation to it, but it's a really nice idea.
I would try experimenting with varying the sustain and decay of the percussion hits. It might be nice to have one ring out every once in awhile. Maybe.

idk if this explains it at all, but pianos actually have a very special harmonic series at the low end.
Since there's such an insane amount of tension on the low strings they're very stiff and vibrate differently toward the ends making the upper harmonics a little sharp. Tuners actually tune the low octaves of a piano a little wide.
I've been trying to think of ways to exploit this in production but idk.

I used a VST and the piano roll, though I could probably play it myself if I had a keyboard.

I like how sparse it is with that synth prairie doggin. The snare is a little agressive/bright where it comes in. It makes a good action/reaction moment. Maybe develop more on that idea of them playing with each other.
Not sure about that chromatic note. I'd keep it melodically simple, at least for the early bits. The pace you're increasing the rhythm is good, but the increase in tonal complexity is a little jarring.

he possibly has a synth behind it. i'm specifically talking about the parts at :01-:02 and :03-:04... :11-:12 and :13-:14
instaud.io/3KcI
not really accurate, but more to illustrate what i meant

>instaud.io/3KcI
Dude. That sounds almost exactly like sounds he has used in some of his other tracks. Good ear.
I have to disagree with the other guy; I like the chromaticism and harmonies that you have going on. The intro should keep going up in that last pattern until it resolves to a C or something.

I usually just masturbate

thanks. this is the adsr envelope. i also had a small amount of reverb, and passed the output through a filter.

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my music was shitty and forced today

yeah

tell me all about it

i just sucked a big one today thats the whole story, just sucked a big fat one

Help me out anons. Apparently my broke ass has only around ONE budget for a good headphones or a nice midi keyboard. I mainly produce hiphop beat on fl studio, still a newbie in this stuff though. So which should be my next upgrate? A headphone or a midi keyboard?

headphones. Noodling around on keyboards is a luxury, you can always use the piano roll.

instaud.io/3KeM

why did I spend so much time (or any time) working on this what the fuck is wrong with me

and did you enjoyed that ???
instaud.io/3KeW i feel like my trombone sound is shitty but i also like it don't know what to do

What's your budget?
But generally

I posted this a few weeks ago, new feedback on mix appreciated

instaud.io/3KfL
instaud.io/3KfM
instaud.io/3KfN

i thought we needed to give a least one feedback to recieve one... but the stuff you do is

I gave already feedback several times in this thread... is what?

ok great how could i've known... is fun

>making some awesome music in FL Studio (Demo)
>shit glitches right when you get to exporting and everything is lost forever now
>BUT IN THEEEEEE EEEEEND IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER

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it's still in your heart, user, and that's what REALLY matters :)

also lmao just torrent it

BitWig Need to be here in S tier. Also why reason at F? genuinely curious as I've heard it's used by a lot of professionals.

>why reason at F?
for the meme lol

Meme of the day

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... i always assumed you were the reason fag

No I'm the guy in pink.
Tryna redeem myself y'kno...

[spoiler]or maybe i still am the reason guy[/spoiler]

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yeah that was obvious lol, those personas overlap

Guess I can't hide my shitposting talent

It's cool. The drums sound beginnerish to me, because of some of the sounds you picked (especially the high hat in the "verse")
In some parts it seems spastic without actually going anywhere, but that might be a good thing. I don't like the gay vocal thing, but that's just my personal taste

I'm nobody so take my opinions with a grain of salt

nice

I don't even understand this meme, but I'm laughing my ass off anyway!

gatesoflove.bandcamp.com/album/show

>last summer
>demarcus was a noob saying stupid shit
>anons argued with him and what he said became a bit of a joke, which lowered the quality of the general by contributing to the shitposting
>people start saying it as a joke and some people think it's serious and start arguing
>the shitposter starts defending his position and edits the wikipedia page to prove his point
>others join him in a shitposting wave that lasted days and spilled into other threads too
>everyone leaves /prod/ and it hasn't been the same since

[spoiler]I'm the shitposter and I deeply regret what I've done[/spoiler]

I use FL and have an ableton demo I occasionally fuck around with and there is some things ableton does better. Ableton does have a garbage boring UI and the piano roll is complete trash and the drum rack system is retarded but other than that the pitch shifting algorithms seem much better and has a workflow more geared towards "making a song". Anyone who actually knows what they're talking about can see pros and cons to both. That whole thing of loading up different loops into one channel and having them play at random is also really cool on ableton and as far as I know with FL studio that'd take much longer.

My focusrite solo is flashing red lights when plugged in, won’t register on my Mac or pc and phantom power won’t work. Is it kill?

you need to supply more power to it.

nah just an oscillator, not a low frequency one.

I made this the other night after a couple of months producing anything. Is it any good? Also how do I get out of the rut out of just working on songs for one session and never returning to them. I have dozens of these one minute songs

instaud.io/3Kiw

you have to focus on a feature where you always come up with a tool how to improve the sound... if you're good with making interesting structures, focus on that. You just have to set yourself into working mode, it's not important on what feature you work then, music can be interesting in a lot of different ways. Maybe you focus on an aspect that you don't have control over

I feel like it's almost good.
With a long intro like that I was expecting some real funky groovin melodic bass with a bunch of fast staccatos and I got a flaccid wiener bass instead. Maybe it can switch back to flaccid wiener bass later when you want to pull it back though.
The keys chords are a little dense for how low the are. I'd probably make your voicing a little wider. Remember wide intervals on the bottom and tighter intervals up top.
That synth lead you add toward the end makes a nice texture, but I would leave it as background texture and keep it subtle rather than put it up front.

Thanks for the advice. I'm pretty tired and going to bed so can't reply much but I'll save this.

rate my trap loop

yes

is ath-m40x a good headphone or is it a meme? also anyone tried superlux/samson headphones? im really broke as fuck and i'd really wanna save as much money as i can

4/10

ath-m40x are colored as fuck, great for listening, not for monitoring.

mdr7506 are cheap, built like a brick shithouse, and are literal studio monitors

dumb question. but could my laptop alone power up sony to its full capability?

yeah, the mdr7506 are low impedance so anything can power them

drum sounds of ass

Honestly it feels like you put more effort into the title than the track.

It's OK, I'm the reasonfag (one of them anyway) and I've learned to like nu-prod.

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My first try at an orchestral production inspired by vidya and film scores.
I liked it when I first made it, now I'm not so sure
Opinions?
instaud.io/3KlU

>instaud.io/3Kiw
Not diggin that bass sound and the lead at 1:02, my dude
The mix sounds good though

strawpoll.me/18080855

>how do I get out of the rut out of just working on songs for one session and never returning to them. I have dozens of these one minute songs

Try a different method of writing. Pen and Paper. Record gibberish into a microphone and produce it until it works. It doesn't have to be good, you just have to do it.

also agree on the Sony 7606. I've been using these for 10 years now.

are you the same guy?
I like the sound, the voiceleading is a bit off sometimes

>are you the same guy?
define "same guy"

are you the same guy like the other post that I linked....what's not to understand there?

I'm doing a lyric writing exercise, rate my lyrics.

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Ah, I misunderstood
No, I'm not

>the voiceleading is a bit off sometimes
Where for example?

>No, I'm not
the second link sounds a bit like yours

>Where for example?
not really bad stuff, I heard some open parallels and empty octaves. Upon second listening it sounds less obnoxious desu

>I heard some open parallels and empty octaves
Honestly, when I'm writing in a more modern style like this, I don't really pay attention to parallels tbqh, I tend to write more in a horizontal manner

>Upon second listening it sounds less obnoxious desu
thanks I guess?

>instaud.io/3JSZ
you like metriod?

make a song about not having made a song

>I don't really pay attention to parallels tbqh, I tend to write more in a horizontal manner
well if you like it then it's fine, I just think your music evoces the aesthetic feel of common period music.
>thanks I guess?
probably if you were fishing for compliments. You obviously know how to arrange instruments. Next step is coming up with nice melodies, but that's just a learn process like anything else

or the SM-7... the most versatile mic all around.

IS THIS MUSIC?

instaud.io/3Kn4

>Next step is coming up with nice melodies
Yep, I couldn't write a good melody to save my life.
>I just think your music evoces the aesthetic feel of common period music
Dang, I was going for a more modern style.

Thanks for the feedback buddy.

>IS THIS MUSIC?
Yes, they call it "bad music". Look into it

can you delete this post and post something useful and constructive instead please

instaud.io/3Knf

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that's impossible to play

Lol that's literally a recording of me playing it

if you have tiny hands, yes

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if you have really big hands... if you have normal to bigger than average hands it's impossible, I dare you to try it. Not that I say user is a liar, he may have the biggest hands in the history of Yea Forums

>I dare you to try it.
Bruh, I told you, that's literally a recording of me playing it

huh? tens are super common with all kinds of piano literature so every pianist has to be able to work around them

I don't know very much about DJing. What's going on here? Is he just switching back and forth between songs that are at the same tempo when he grabs the fader? And I guess there are effects in the box?
youtu.be/b7YQk-ieBZU

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there are 11th all over the place and even a 12th in the first chord of the second and third bar... seriously, how are you supposed to play that chord (Db Ab Db Gb) fluidly if you don't have humungous mutant hands lol?

oh, my bad that first chord of the 2nd bar isn't an F, it's an Eb to a Db on the eighth.
I was just trying to compose with only 11ths in the 4 major voices. There is a major 10th though. I'll call it a diminished 11th

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dammit, I forgot to fix an inner voice and make the rhythm match the remix again.

I just drank a couple Hamms.

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maybe try to make something beautiful instead of spreading chords as wide as possible

the a stands for ape-tier
the b stands for based

>imagine a melody for me
faghomo

>record a guitar track
>it sounds bad
>delete it
>record again
>it sounds bad
>repeat
help

I know writing in 11ths isn't a good way to make something beautiful, but I wanted to work within those strict restraints to force some creative solutions out.
If you think you can write in only 11ths better post it and I'll play it.

somebody make a new thread

In what way does it sound bad? If you post a recording we might actually be able to help.

you have to do this at least 1,000 times so that the Gods know you're serious

keep them all
comp the best sections of the best takes, clean it up
play just the few bars, chords and even single notes that you don't have yet, edit them in
then move on to the next track

no one is entirely sure how he does what he does

If you made me guess, he has two songs with no drums going playing at the same tempo, and a third drums-only track.
He keeps the percussion going, but cross fades hard between the instrumental tracks

>Check propellerhead site 2 years later
>Grain Sample Manipulator STILL not available as a VST
WHY!?
AND WHY HAS NOONE ELSE MADE A GOOD GRANULAR SYNTH PLUGIN!?
>inb4 Absynth
horrible fucking user interface that is at least 30 years old and lacking features
Alchemy would be nice to have but whoopsie doopsie it's Logic Pro/Mac exclusive now.

HELP

check out Native Instruments Form

Have you tried Quanta? Has some annoying issues and limitations but it's the best I've tried so far.

padshop pro is pretty good

What's a granular synth?

does anyone use drum racks in ableton? whenever i see a musician on artist's ableton window they always have their samples put on the arrangement view like this

i always used drum racks because it was a lot less cluttered but ive been using the arrangement view for the past few days and it's so much easier to make something sound decent

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love it, makes me hungry
reason isn't that bad
I had a pair of superlux headphones. They're okay, suuuper bright headphones but not bad for the money.
yeah, what's the budget? I love my HD6XX, very nice for $220 shipped new!
--
working on this remix, still a big time wip but what do you think? I need to work on some empty spots and the ending sucks butt. Still need to master too ._. clyp.it/1021sqnz

Yes.

libgen.me/item/detail/id/753059?id=753059

Read this book. If every single sentence in this book isn't obvious to you, read it again.

I'm pretty sure I can stretch that far but my keyboard isn't enough keys wide.
Stay mad.

Bury in distortion and/or reverb dependent on genre.
Problem solved.

>whenever i see a musician on artist's ableton window they always have their samples put on the arrangement view
I've never seen anyone do this... using Ableton's arrangement view for composing ideas is dumb as well, like why even use ableton? imo scrubbing through samples via chain macro on a drum rack is ultimate, never have to file browse for samples again and just go by ear and a knob. I'd expect anyone that is making patterns in arrangement view using one sample per track is a newb and doesn't understand the better sample workflows within ableton

main idea is a bit repetitive, but some nice feel-good vibes in there. I like it

The "F" stands for:

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faggot

basically every time i've seen a producer's (who has been making music for years) ableton window, he's got all his samples on a seperate track, maybe grouped together like the image i posted.

I'm talking about a piano

Can I make an out of tune accordian sound good in Ableton?

Dude. I literally played it on piano in that recording. I notated it a little wrong, but it's mostly 11ths.

and I'll unironically record any short sheet music someone posts in 11ths. as long as it's not really fast and you can do what you want with it to make it sound good.

alright it's you... why do you open the discussion again, you made your point already. congrats to your enormous hands

that's a common thing to do in a program like Protools because Protools is shit at working with tons of samples. Maybe those people have a protools background and never took the time to learn ableton.

I think the Europa thing was more of a proof concept type thing, not a new direction for all PH's releases.
It's quite possible they gave up the idea when it sold 5 VST copies and everyone else pirated it.
The rumor I've heard is it's easier to convert a VST into an RE than the other way around.

A granular synth is kind of like a sampler, it replays sounds loaded into it.
However where it gets special is the way it can manipulate these sounds.
Basic idea is you have your sound loaded in, it gets internally chopped into many many small chunks of wave, and then each chunk can be utilized for sound reproduction.
The chunks don't have to be used in the same order, you don't have to use all the chunks, you can paste them together directly or crossfade between them, etc.

This is the product video for Grain, which also contains a brief description of granular synthesis.
youtube.com/watch?v=Mb4EEWedQKM

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