Classical vs Jazz

Classical vs Jazz

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Jazz is classical

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If you can’t appreciate both jazz and classical for what they are then I’m going to assume you don’t have very good taste in music.

It's crap. Also trout mask replica is better at capturing a sound like this

jazz is boring shite that all sounds the same

ok nigger

Have you ever thought about how many people say that about classical? You sound as stupid as they do right now.

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Classical is kind of boring. Where is the Free Classic

>Free Classic
It's called modern classical

(and its subgenres)

I guess but I usually take it that people like OP are referring to 18th and 19th century music

well you shouldnt because in most cases theyre not referring to that, theyre referring to all european art music

richard wagner so I vote classical

Why vs?
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>to make it worse the theories behind it are not even explained correctly in videos online

Stochastic music and free improvisatory forms have been around since at least the 50s, and more structured improvisation in Classical music since at least 500AD.

Yea dude kind of blue and unit structures sound so similar it’s ridiculous dude

Different forms with different contexts, not really comparable other than nowadays both are generally seen as too obtuse and intellectual once you get past the basics.

That being said there is a lot to say about how the cross-fertilization of western harmony and African rhythm influenced early jazz and how jazz influenced early 20th century classical composers.

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Why not both?

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get back to Radiohead, stupid pleb

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>>pic somewhat related
Jazz has a non-musical parallel: Christiania, the "free" zone in Copenhagen. In Christiania, like in jazz, there is no law. People are left to their own inventions to create and act as they see fit. In jazz, the musicians are allowed to improvise over and beside structural elements that may themselves be extemporaneous. Sounds good, doesn't it? Freedom—sounds good.

The reality is much bleaker. Christiania is a squalid, trashy string of alleys with rag-and-bone men selling drugs, tie-dye and wretched food. Granted Total Freedom, and this is what they've chosen to do with it, sell hash and lentil soup? Jazz is similar. The results are so far beneath the conception that there is no English word for the disappointment one feels when forced to confront it. Granted Total Freedom, you've chosen to play II V I and blow a goddamn trill on the saxophone? Only by wilfully ignoring its failings can one pretend to appreciate it as an idiom and don the cap.

fpbp

It's somewhat odd to me that jazz is seen as a more creative, exploratory genre when it is really far more conformist, driven by convention and reactionary than art music. In art music, you are in fact allowed to do just about anything you can imagine, it must only be justified artistically and constructed in a comprehensive manner proceeding from rigorously defined axioms.

Absolute retard

As much as I respect Albini as a producer/engineer and guitarist, I've always disagreed with his take on jazz. Rock is about as limiting as jazz nowadays with its vocabulary. But then again Albini probably got mad that some jazz major in college that stole his girl and never got over it.

I choose both at the same time

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