Why is it that very few if ANY black musicians understand melody or harmony? Whites however intimately understand rhythm and apply it. It baffles me, they can make much better music if they put an ear to it, is it seen as effeminate to be melodic? That's my theory.
Why is it that very few if ANY black musicians understand melody or harmony...
Owen Barnes
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Isaiah Williams
>black musicians
Gabriel Walker
Bad thread!
Jeremiah Scott
im not racist like you asshole but im OP
k..
John Jenkins
It's just that black people are in a all-time low point culturally. If what you say were to be true we wouldn't have such brilliant harmony players like Monk or McCoy Tyner. The 60's had a lot of great, educated and deep black musicians.
snake benis plz
Charles Phillips
Fuck shit, I got the worst of them all
Joseph Harris
yes maybe playing in harmony but not memorable melodies
Camden Carter
Perhaps memorability is not their forte, vut I've found early blues to be full of complex small variations and subtleties in vocal melodies. Quarter tone glissandos before some specific notes and a great control of dynamics.
Now, soul to me, specially Motown, has a lot of memorable and spectacular melodies, most written by black songwriters.
Mason Bennett
>but
I'm writting in the dark
Jayden Wright
Yet rap is the most popular genre since 2017 while anything rock related has been dying out because it doesnt change, just conforms.
Why are white ppl so dumb?
Jack Ross
take your bullshit /pol/ ideology elsewhere
Anthony Flores
The bassline for I Want You Back, written by James Jamerson, is one of the most iconic melodies of all time. Or the bassline to Billie Jean, written by Michael Jackson. Despite fulfilling the "harmonic role" of bass, they employ memorable, melodic devices, i.e., riffs and ostinatos, to do so.
Christopher Peterson
The people are not in control of what's popular.
Ayden Carter
then why did anything related to white people ever get popular. since its always shit
Ryder Morales
They do, you're just listening to the wrong music.
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Lincoln Cooper
billie jean bassline is a straight rip of vangelis you pleb, not sure about james jamerson yet
i do miss old black artists dearly but i know they worked with alot of writers that are white too, like michael for example, its hard to know who wrote what, whenever i find a great song by a black artist i found out a white guy wrote it or it is a cover of another white artitst
Daniel Williams
because its muuuch more commercial in that it is not music but a lifestyle, bitches, drugs, cash, what you expect? its the devils world more than ever and blacks are the poster children at the moment
Matthew Peterson
behold, the unironically greatest vocal melodies of this decade
Tyler Perry
Ah I see it's one of "them". Not an actual black person, mind you, or if it is, someone that probably consumes too much pop culture and is embracing the shit thought processes and ideals therein. BUT I think this person is actually just a member of "them" trying to shitstir
Carson Williams
>If what you say were to be true we wouldn't have such brilliant harmony players like Monk or McCoy Tyner. The 60's had a lot of great, educated and deep black musicians.
This isn't actually true, most of them just played nonsense and then white intellectuals tried to reframe it as some sort of Wagnerian tendency. Just compare actually sensitive, contrapuntal players like Bill Evans or Lennie Tristano to a blockhead like McCoy Tyner.
Jaxson Brown
Racists are so fucking stupid.
Tyler Howard
well good job making this world
oh wait no it was the jews wasnt it, guess it sucks being too smart to enjoy life and too dumb to exploit it eh?
>too dumb?! my ancestors-
are not you
rollin
Kayden Howard
Really stupid post. Here's your (you).
Blake Martinez
>Imagine thinking Charles Mingus didn't understand melody
>Imagine thinking Billy Strayhorn didn't understand melody
>Imagine thinking Thelonious Monk didn't understand melody
>Imagine thinking Samuel Coleridge-Taylor didn't understand melody
>Imagine thinking Scott Joplin didn't understand melody
>Imagine thinking Herbie Hancock doesn't understand melody
>Imagine thinking Stevie Wonder doesn't understand melody
>Imagine thinking Quincy Jones doesn't understand melody
Gabriel Phillips
>actually written by white guy
Any examples?
Bentley Morris
have you never listened to jazz
Owen James
I agree with blacks being in an all time low point.
No one thought like OP until the mid 80s.
Some of the most talented pop/rock musicians before rap became a big thing were black, like Stevie Wonder or Prince.
And Motown musicians, and disco musicians, certainly understood melody and harmony very well. Blacks were making great music before rap ruinned them.
this was late 70s black music
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Stevie Wonder released 5 masterpieces in the 70s, every album from Music of My Mind to Songs in the Key of Life, you should give them a chance
Asher Thompson
>but not memorable melodies
You're retarded. Funk music has produced some of the most addicting earworms of the past century.
Nathaniel Cox
You are absolutely correct. This is the stupidest thread I've seen in ages.
Carson Lee
^This.
James Anderson
^This. You're kidding me if you say funk cannot into killer hooks.
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Jeremiah Rivera
>And Motown musicians, and disco musicians, certainly understood melody and harmony very well. Blacks were making great music before rap ruinned them.
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