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Matthew Anderson
cutest girl in the galaxy~
Landon Myers
fuck Produce 101
fuck IOI
fuck IZ*ONE
fuck fromis_9
fuck Pledis
fuck Nu'est
fuck Seventeen especially
i'm so fucking fuming
Joseph Nelson
This is my daughter
Christian Lopez
Christian Gomez
We Like is a garbage song all because Pledis wanted to push the self composed members meme
Luis Wright
at least gugudan is still alive bros
Joshua Davis
For you mouthbreathers who need to be told for the umpteenth time:
Mnet created OTR, a shell company, solely to house and manage IZ*ONE and Fromis_9 because Pledis can't be trusted. As soon as IZ*ONE was finalized Pledis had to give control over to Mnet completely.
Pledis has 0 control over comebacks
0 control over song selection
0 control over scheduling
The only thing Pledis does for either group is give them facilities to practice in. Neither IZ*ONE nor Fromis are in the shit show that is Pledis ent.
Charles Flores
No offense but your daughter can go fuck herself, this is Pristin's time of mourning and the best you can do is post flopis9
Jaxon Perry
Hunter Bennett
how is it seventeen's fault
Nicholas Wilson
all things considered, pristin is the biggest failure in kpop history
at least until loona disbands
Levi Lee
Imagine being the princess of pledis and ending like this
Isaac Peterson
Blake Reyes
they got the two best ones
Brayden Gutierrez
when will LOONA disband?
Cameron Lewis
why is she doing this with her tongue?
it's lead
Josiah Walker
I don't like how close Pristin and Seventeen was pre-debut
I don't even want to fucking think if they did anything but it makes me sick just stop fucking talking about this please
Oliver Young
they got popular and got attention from pledis?
Grayson Hall
tomorrow
Jayden Fisher
Happy birthday Yves!
Carson Garcia
Loona is an occult propaganda group funded by military hardware exporter company and (((foreign investors))). They're not going anywhere.
Jack Flores
midget uprising soon
Kevin Turner
youtube.com
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
Brayden Watson
Jonathan Sanchez
Cooper Williams
OTR are doing fine with Fromis. They will probably only get 2 comebacks instead of 3 this year but that's mainly because OTR has to juggle them and Izone. Promoting them opposite of each other is self-defeating.
Easton Reyes
I want to kiss your daughter.
Would that be okay with you Mr user sir?
Eli Richardson
If I wanted to see some asían with her legs open I'd go to xvideos and type korean hardcore, whats this kpop soft porn omg.
Robert Cook
sup memer
Eli Long
Which one?
Kayden Young
Happy birthday to my wife Ha 'Yves' Baasedoung
Chase Roberts
>omg
based miracle
Christopher Nelson
if you wanna know how fucked the market is for kpop girl groups in the US. Just go check how many tickets are left for momoland and apink there are.
the rise of sales in the US market is gonna put an end to cutie pop which is already experiencing a slowdown. And korea's continued expansion of vietnam's infrastructure means that there's very little chance that china's blockade will open back up to korean pop and that the chinese will rescue us.
pretty soon this industry is gonna be all girl crush and boy groups because that's all that girls in Korea SEA and the US will buy into.
Japs are the only thing keeping cutie pop alive right now. Start learning japanese now if you like groups like gfriend fromis and izone, because they'll be gone in a few years. it's gonna be all everglows blackpinks etc
Owen White
she's pretty
Zachary Johnson
can you link some videos?
Jose Phillips
loona are making their japan debut soon. they will go head to head with izone and show everyone which group is best!
Parker Martinez
They could always do what they did in november and overlap them
IZ*ONE's next comeback is slated for August and they probably won't release anything else after that (except maybe a repackage if they want to gamble for the disk bonsang at end year awards) so it's probably not necessary and fromis will have the entire back end of the year to release somethign else
Dylan Kelly
so close damn
Sebastian Martinez
John Hughes
izone is rumored to have a summer comeback too
David Collins
she is pure tho
Noah King
look at how beta gooks act whenever big white shows up
Elijah Rivera
i haven't felt like this since bob girls disbanded
life sucks
Asher Barnes
Heart*IZ wasn't a cutepop album, and neither was Sukito
Buenos Aires won't be a cutepop album either.
IZ*ONE don't make cute pop
GFriend doesn't make cutepop
Fromis doesn't make cutepop
Cutepop and purepop aren't the same thing
Nathaniel Davis
spoiler: it's twice!
Alexander Scott
horrendous take but thanks
Samuel Martin
thats the upcoming jp one?
Jason Kelly
thank god
fuck cutepop, twice dominated this generation and we had nothing but inane toddler shit for yeas
Jacob Powell
apink is doing a show at a convention run by a shitty person so plenty of people won't go out of protest
Nathan Powell
Love Bomb was cute/colorpop
Ian Ward
based and redpilled
Camden Morales
OTR did steal some of the Pledis support staff though. Nu'est fans were mad as fuck that Izone stole their long time manager for instance.
I sort of wish Stone would just say fuck it and buy Pledis like they were rumored they were going to do. It would give them the number 3 and maybe number 6 boy groups right now which would make them a much stronger agency.
Angel Williams
>they won't release anything in fall
are you dumb or are you dumb?
IZ*ONE is going to release again in fall/winter because they have to. Do you think Mnet has time to let them take an entire quarter of a year off?
Jack Cruz
>wanting western girl crush roastiepop
yikes
Kayden Butler
>"IZ*ONE too has set a goal to prepare for a summer summer comeback. After the 'Violeta' promotions ended in April, these girls will be joining the summer great war after a short recharge."
Jace Wilson
what the fuck are you on about?
Luis Turner
Does this look like cutepop?
Dylan Hughes
name?
Owen Sullivan
huge whore
Jordan Carter
I'm already worried about my daughters future group
Jayden Jenkins
enough with TT every single fucking comeback and other groups copying it because its successful
i prefer literally anything over what we have now
Tyler Scott
i wanna see her a nako side by side. i bet they're the same height
Aiden Powell
well hywon's company stole sadness unnie but i didn't see twice fans get mad
Tyler Davis
December gets eliminated because of the awards shows killing any incentive to release anything, you only have a 3 month turn around to release something after August, it's not impossible but at the same time they might end up going back to Japan instead
Wyatt Williams
SLUTPOP especially YURI THE BUSAN SLUTWHORE
Thomas Adams
is there a big tranny community in japan?
Jonathan Anderson
izone basically having 2 kids won't allow them to do anything but cutepop/purepop
James Green
>Japs are the only thing keeping cutie pop alive right now. Start learning japanese now if you like groups like gfriend fromis and izone, because they'll be gone in a few years.
those groups aren't even cutepop
Jason Johnson
gaypop soty
youtu.be
Jaxson Young
Izone is going to come back in late october or early november
They don't have the luxury of time to just skip 6 months of promoting what about this don't you understand
Charles Campbell
fromis' seoyeon
Grayson Davis
They have a concert tour until mid July and they will do a few more Japanese shows in July, and I think they just pre-recorded for Japanese shows already
it's probably early August in between the final concert date and the Osaka handshake
Chase Nelson
Gabriel Moore
I really can't wait for december to roll around so you tards stop bitching about some produce group
Charles Miller
Again, Heart*IZ wasn't cutepop and it barely qualifies as purepop outside of I wanna be a cat and Hey bae like it
Sukito isn't cutepop
Buenos Aires isn't going to be cutepop either
Jordan Bennett
Nu'est did nothing wrong. Nothing short of a divine miracle that they didn't actually die.
Christian Ramirez
ohh if only it was jisun it will be a full moon
Adrian Powell
post little W*ny
Christopher Lewis
HANTEO: #CherryBullet - Love Adventure
190522: 587 copies (1st day sales)
unfuckingbelievable, you people are letting this group die
Brayden Myers
How come Yea Forumstts are still seething after all these years?
Brayden Murphy
Love this group youtube.com
Gabriel Cox
youtube.com
didn't expect solar to even read the english comments
Lucas Butler
misspelled Wonho
Cooper Murphy
this midget has the potential to get it
Tyler Davis
Lincoln Watson
they have a 2 1/2 years contract
Asher Martin
group has ZERO (0) qts
Nolan Taylor
what do you consider heart*iz then?
i hate buying single albums
Wyatt Kelly
They'll disband in december hopefully
Christian Hill
word
Jose Kelly
They have 1 year and 11 months left on their contract
Brayden Murphy
Fromis will drop cutepop/purepop in a heartbeat once Jiheon is no longer underage. OTR aren't idiots. They'll have to ride out Izone as cutepop unless they break them into 2 subunits and promote a Rumor style unnie line unit. Plus they already have Japan to leech money from like Twice do.
I do have some question marks about Gfriend since they should be stronger in Japan than they really are and the clock is running out on them being able to promote Purepop style music. Yuju and SinB in particular. However Buddies got mad as fuck about Pingotip so they weren't able to drop the purepop sound.
Apink dropped cutepop last year, it's not really their fault that they have a completely awful promoter for their US appearance.
Bentley Gutierrez
Wave all the way
Jordan Harris
it's pretty believable, they're ugly and have bad music
Jayden Perry
Sebastian Rivera
Good news. There's gonna be another one.
Blake Miller
i don't care about arbitrary audiologist dumbass meme definitions. they're all cuties and sing pop.
And they all have cutiepop songs on their albums, while everglow and blackpink don't.
Camden Ward
...
Michael Bailey
It's a regular pop album
why do you want to autistically sub categorize everything
Violeta, Up, Highlight, Airplane, and Gokigen Sayonara are all regular pop songs.
Andrew Long
ew
William Moore
They disband late April 2021.
Including concerts, probably an extra month or two.
Parker Ortiz
>Fromis will drop cutepop/purepop in a heartbeat once Jiheon is no longer underage.
shut up shut up shut up THEY'RE PURE JIHEON WOULDN'T DO THAT SHIT
Daniel Miller
Isaiah Fisher
hellsp
Brandon Lee
Jose Wilson
and?
all groups don't have to make the same music
Xavier Mitchell
Samuel Sanchez
>why do you want to autistically sub categorize everything
korea started it
Lucas King
how come SEA countries like indonesia are so obsessed with girl crush kpop?
is it because it acts as a counterweight to their oppressive culture and restricted lifestyle?
Easton Torres
Luke Peterson
cute Kim Lip
Owen Evans
Carson Lewis
IOI did Whatta Man with underage members
Benjamin Ross
this slut can get it
Nathan Jenkins
Violeta - house
Up & Airplane - cutepop
Highlight - whatever peekaboo is
Gokigen - synth/electro pop
Ryder Baker
JIHEON IS PURE FOR FUCKS SAKES
James White
quite a bit of hand-holding there bros...
Eli Gonzalez
James Price
>pit teasing
she is going all-in
Blake Rivera
Cubuggo...
Andrew Price
this and haggy
Owen Howard
Nicholas Hernandez
Nathan Rodriguez
we got too cocky nayoungbros
Cameron Hernandez
Joshua Phillips
shut
the
fuck
UP
Jaxon Rogers
this is why I hate Seventeen, fucking cunts should stay away from my nunu
Josiah Williams
somi and who else because somi had already shown she was willing to slut it up a while ago
Samuel Moore
remove those shoes
Henry Miller
Liam Rivera
finally the loona fanbase is expanding beyond the trannys thank fucking god
Jacob Cox
Izone will only get one more Korean comeback in this year because they'll need to get out the summer Japanese album and tour and they will probably want to get out a winter japanese albums so they have something to do for the year end Japanese music shows. That gives Fromis a comeback now (really they should've had one prior to Kcon Japan but Izone I guess got in the way) and one more in the late fall especially if they'll get pushed by Mnet onto the year end shows.
The biggest problem for most girl group agencies right now is that they have to schedule around the big ass gaypop group comebacks and Twice/BP/RV because getting show wins opposite those groups is nearly impossible.
Charles Phillips
post a TRUE VISUAL
Logan Roberts
YURI THE BLOWJOB WHORE SLUT
Caleb Torres
finally an attractive girl
Leo Lopez
Chase Cox
slut
pure
Levi Sullivan
the busanese are the purest girls in kpop
Liam Martinez
Why did the bully look at her with such disgust...
Jace White
Ryder Jenkins
it's the opposite actually
William Bell
smooth moves swaggy haggy
Jordan Cruz
ssssssssssssssssssssssssss
but can get it
Kayden Lewis
to what? the trannies were always a ridiculous minority of orbits
Logan Cook
Yoojung, Sohye and Pinky
Elijah Bailey
LOL
Nathan Collins
word
Alexander Morales
Fromis is literally only going to get 1 comeback this year
there's no incentive for mnet to have fromis comeback twice and sacrifice an additional izone comeback
do you know how much money izone makes mnet?
by the time buenos aires is released they'll be the 2nd best selling girlgroup of the 3rd gen
the mental gymnastics you do to try and rationalize a shitty business decision because you want fromis to comeback is hilarious. fromis are going to do next to nothing musically until 2021.
Juan Davis
based
Landon Nelson
GO FUCK YOURSELF
Jaxson Phillips
Andrew King
Dylan Cox
OTR seem to think that giving Hayoung bangs will conceal the fact that she's lewd as fuck. But it looks like she'll be going no bangs soon
Jordan Harris
Asher Wood
did big nose brother... you know....
Joseph Wright
Has Jiheon had her first kiss yet?
Christopher Kelly
OH NONONONO
WE GOT TOO COCK SLUTBORS
Ian Brooks
No
Ethan Hughes
both of IZ*ONE's korean releases were in the same period as big 3 groups.
Early november had Twice & EXO.
April had Blackpink and BTS.
Iz*one still did pretty well so it shouldn't effect them too much.
Connor Ramirez
yeah ji suk jin did it impala hyung
Levi Foster
fromis needs to stay relevant though because izone is a temporary group
Lucas Turner
jeon hyosung?
Carter Wright
Nolan Anderson
the b-sides were terrible
Adam Moore
also lol at thinking that RV can block anyone from show wins
Bentley Phillips
she's on her 5th D*CK already
Jeremiah Mitchell
haggy always had bangs though
Leo Barnes
as long as you release before a big 3 group otherwise you're probably not winning anywhere besides the show or something
Oliver Torres
no yeinbros nooooooooooooooo
Nathaniel Campbell
pure busan girl, jiwon
Andrew Richardson
fuck this guy
Adrian Ross
which gg can beat them realistically except bp and twice?
Bentley Lewis
rip
Isaac Morgan
izone
Logan Davis
yes, her boy classmates takes turn kissing her during lunch break
Charles Sanders
yein did that already
Ryan Wright
why do you think they have such strong sns presence?
it's to supplement the lack of music. Mnet promoting IZONE and Fromis at the same time makes literally 0 sense and is counter intuitive because IZONE will keep Fromis in their shadow if they appear on shows together.
Fromis are going to spam post sns and get 1 comeback a year until izone disband.
Nathaniel Green
Aaron Smith
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Parker Williams
Mcountdown will be a safe win because no YG and SM.
Easton Torres
>the rise of sales in the US market is gonna put an end to cutie pop which is already experiencing a slowdown.
based, the cutepop wave has been a fucking cancer
Julian Lee
post more
Charles Mitchell
hahahaha fuck off
Logan Garcia
even on RV's worst day they outchart and outsell them
Jose Rogers
can get it
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Sebastian Jones
IZ*ONE
Gfriend
Mamamoo
RV got 0 wins with rbb when Twice wasn't even on shows or promoting.
Jack Williams
Izone make more money in Japan thus it's more profitable to promote them there and capitalize on all the Sakura fans now. When Izone is in Japan there is zero risk to having Fromis promote in Korea especially since LoveBomb allowed them to move into the middle tier of girl groups already.
The only thing Izone will probably block is a serious Japanese debut for fromis until after they disband. I'm not sure how many Fromis even know Japanese yet so it's no big loss.
Landon James
Christopher Robinson
its 50/50 imo, izone beats them on physicals but rv win on digital.
Jonathan Torres
>nayoung gets together with a handsome guy who shares her interests, is nice and will make a great bf
>nayoung isn't getting whored out to ceo-nims like roa and yuha
>kpg gets ridiculously upset anyway
Austin Davis
i will miss this amazon
we don't have many in kpop
Adam White
The summer albums are stupid popular, it’s what keeps the RV lights on if we’re being honest.
Eli White
>Mcountdown will be a safe win because no YG and SM.
and you know... their company owning and rigging the show itself.
Angel Hall
if a group loses their momentum, they're done. posting on instagram doesn't cut it, they need to have comebacks or OTR will be losing two groups instead of one
Logan Richardson
they're 50/50. if they do rbb 2.0 they aren't winning shit
James Jackson
Fromis can do their comebacks whenever IZ*ONE promotes in Japan.
Isaiah Kelly
>The summer albums are stupid popular, it’s what keeps the RV lights on if we’re being honest.
This is correct, people keep saying "if RV flops again" but Power Up was their last summer hit and it basically re-cemented them on the map as a top 3 when they hit their highest UL peak ever
Austin Lee
sssssssssssssssssssssssssssso pure
Luke Rivera
nah not mamamoo, their physicals are pretty bad.
Grayson Baker
In some hentai circles, maybe
Dylan Barnes
>no YG
winner just won and didn't even show up
Christopher Howard
Andrew Thompson
youtube.com
Mijoo is the only pure girl in Lovelyz
Oliver Evans
Is that why RV is about to be outsold by IZ*ONE next month?
RV have barely over 1 million albums sold in their 4 year careers.
IZ*ONE have 780,xxx thousand albums sold as of today.
You think they won't pass them with Buenos Aires? lmao
Is that also why RBB was stuck at 50 on the charts and sold 50k copies first week?
IZONE would never have first week sales of 50k lmfao
Dominic Howard
Which is why Fromis fans haven't realized she's Seoyeon-Saerom-Nakyung level lewd yet.
Connor Kelly
the most they've ever sold is 160k but they do chart better
Logan Long
hard to say, but red velvet has been losing momentum over the past year. their last few singles have been turbo flops. wouldn't be surprised at all if izone would kick their ass head to head
Cameron Phillips
sales from Japan barely count
Connor Morgan
maybe gfriend? they're even on terms of music show wins
Aaron Diaz
finally a pure lovelyz member
Lucas Perry
100% agreed.
But they still won Music Bank that time so at least there's some form of "receipts"
Jaxson Reed
fromis has no momentum to lose
Mason Edwards
Kayden Davis
amazingly rbb peaked at 10 on gaon while izone hasn't gone higher than 14 so far
Justin Powell
everybody knows that
Liam Ramirez
you izoneshitters are so insecure that you need to shit on fromis to get ahead, pathetic
Owen Martin
Dominic Wood
its possible, but unlikely.
Jaxson Jenkins
izone just need to let off some fireworks to end rv
Daniel Cruz
don't mind me just posting my waifu
Thomas Anderson
kpg talks a lot about izone, but every article talking about izone's popularity has a lot of gooks confused and even doubtful
what's going on?
Jason Martinez
Charles Moore
Matthew Edwards
Stop false flagging all the time you attention whoring cripple
Blake Green
Why?
Why don't count?
Julian Adams
>but every article talking about izone's popularity has a lot of gooks confused and even doubtful
nervous big3shitters
David Reed
solar's chat is moving so damn fast
Julian Carter
Word, everyone has been trying to follow the Twice Cheer Up path to success without realizing that Twice managed to breakthrough at exactly the right point in time and has a fairly unique group composition which makes it easy mode to rake in the Japanese album sales.
Stone has the resources to force a cutepop group into the spotlight but other non Big 3 don't. Look at FNC they debuted a fuckhuge cutepop girl group this year and they are going nowhere.
The only girl groups that have broken through into any level of success in the last year or so are the girlcrush groups like Itzy, Gidle, and potentially Everglow and even then girlcrush isn't a guarantee because Gugudan and WeMe keep trying it but keep failing to break through
Bentley Edwards
this is correct
most articles on Naver usually say something subtle about it being sajaegi
Nathan Cooper
>coping
IZ*ONE outsold RV last year by a hilarious margin.
RV sold a total of 399,642 albums last year, and I even included US sales
IZONE sold 480,266 albums last year.
Their highest selling album last year sold 160k copies
Color*IZ sold 237k copies.
RV can't outsell IZ*ONE, don't even think about it.
Owen Miller
yum
Bentley Young
now post their Gaon digital gap you retard
Hunter Hill
>everything needs to be about twice
Camden Robinson
Gonna play Dwarf Fortress soon
Ayden Ortiz
Sakura's power
Robert Sullivan
fucking nerd
Kayden Price
post sana
Luis Morgan
not to mention the fact that red velvet is on a clear decline
Lucas Robinson
Color*IZ peaked at 2 and Heart*IZ peaked at 1
Josiah Russell
D I G I T A L
David Hernandez
itzy unironically
they release summer album on july too. they have the biggest gg hit right now, the first comeback will be at cheer up level.
Jeremiah Watson
nice fuck dwarf
Ethan Perry
who is this pure angel?
Jackson Long
RBB?
Alexander Roberts
o yea forgot about them
Kayden Ortiz
yes
Nolan Long
i meant the song not the album
Hudson Murphy
yuju from cherrybullet
David Bailey
Article: Pristin disbands after two years... "Only Kyulkyung, Ye Hana, and Sungyeon are staying"
Source: SpoTV News via Nat
1. [+594, -8] They should've supported IOI a lot more when Nayoung and Kyulkyung were earning fame through 'Produce 101'. Shouldn't have lumped them in a huge group with others. They could've waited and taken their time with a good group and a good concept.
2. [+582, -20] Just Pledis being Pledis again. They're called the girl group grave for a reason. Im Nayoung is from IOI but she had no presence or fandom... It's probably better for both parties to cut ties early and find other ways to move on.
3. [+506, -10] But Park Shiyeon has been a trainee in Pledis for 9 years... that's so disappointing ㅠㅠ I'm sure she'll find a new agency or a different career path but wishing the best for her ㅠ
4. [+65, -1] Pledis, seriously... they're worse than Kwang Soo ㅡㅡ They really took these young kids and left them unemployed for two years ㅡㅡ at least they're being let go now so that they can move on with their lives.
5. [+55, -0] What a weird agency... I won't say that their songs were good but they had decent sales. Look away for one second and Pledis is already disbanding them.
6. [+46, -0] I knew this was coming. They debuted the group and did nothing for them. I also noticed that their manager took the members to their graduations but Shiyeon went by taxi by herself so I had a feeling she was calling it quits.
7. [+41, -0] I thought Pristin was doing the best out of Weki Meki and Gugudan..... not that the other two are doing any better;; didn't think Pristin would disband though ㅠ
8. [+32, -0] Their debut album was fine but they lost a lot of value over two years... Pledis *shakes head*
Caleb Wright
ERRTHANG ERRTHANG______
Jordan Ramirez
No way RBB did better than LVER or Violetta.
Ayden Mitchell
Hope izone do a jp b-side similar to this
Noah Ramirez
lol
Brayden Young
it did on Gaon
Isaiah Perry
very interesting and talented
Anthony Mitchell
>They're called the girl group grave for a reason
damn
Sebastian Smith
Source: Naver
1. [+2,887, -51] Sung Soo is seriously a ****. Pristin was one of the better groups to come out of IOI but unfortunately had that long hiatus and now a disbandment...... women, please don't join this agency as a trainee.
2. [+2,375, -27] Han Sung Soo should really be responsible for Pristin's future... there was even a trainee who was with them for 9 years;;
3. [+1,128, -20] Can we disband Pledis instead of Pristin please
4. [+1,110, -21] I feel so bad for them ㅠㅠ They went through all those years of training only to debut for a couple months... and then be left on the backburner for two years ㅠㅠ all because they were under a talentless, greedy company ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ sigh, kids ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
5. [+775, -19] Are they serious? They didn't even give the group a chance. The group had a longer period of hiatus than promotion. It's sad to think that their years of hard work is down the drain. Pledis should not be making groups they can't take responsibility for.
Source: Naver
1. [+519, -3] Imagine giving up years of your life to train for them and then your career is over after two albums... Pledis, why?
2. [+332, -5] Why is Pledis being like this?? Why couldn't they disband them earlier if this was the plan all along? I feel so bad for every member... you only live once, guys.
3. [+158, -3] It hurts but I think this is better than just sitting there doing nothing... good job to the unnis who stuck it out, I'm sure better things are waiting for you.
4. [+141, -2] When I saw Pristin on the search rankings, I had a feeling it was about disbanding
5. [+61, -4] I'm really curious about the reason... Pristin did the best out of IOI and it's not like Pledis is poor with how well NU'EST and Seventeen are doing. Why couldn't they give Pristin another album or even a digital single? There are tons of kids who produce in the company, no?
Evan Long
RBB was a rushed album and they chose the wrong song to promote because SM don't give a fuck if an experimental song fails to succeed.
They'll give them another Power Up / Red Flavor summer bop that will do extremely will digitally and likely physicals and then do another fall/winter album that's more experimental.
The biggest problem with 2018 was that EXO releasing everything late completely fucked SM's release schedule up so SM was having to release a new song like every week right before the year end shows. It was a fucking mess.
But RV are CF machines so until SMNGG debut in 20Never SM will flog them 2-3 times a year.
Christian Lewis
Got any evidence?
Chase Lee
maybe they should have supported them and bought their shit
Luke Collins
how do we stop the SEA invasion of kpop?
it actually did
Angel Taylor
>3. [+1,128, -20] Can we disband Pledis instead of Pristin please
BAAAAAAAAAAASED
Jayden Scott
Music Bank is heavily weighted toward physicals so as long as there isn't a gaypop heavy weight or Twice promoting at the same time Izone will always do well on that show.
Wyatt Green
twitter.com
Seriously. Hyewon gives 0 fuck about being an idol.
Liam Lee
RV is dead they died during that RBB really shit song
John Nguyen
Itzy would unironically smash RV in a head to head.
RV loses to Iz*one head to head
RV loses to GFriend head to head
RV aren't a top 3 group anymore, revecucks are just delusional.
RBB still hasn't broken 100k copies sold to this date.
Xavier Butler
maybe there's also a natural pendulum swing cause everyone looked at the previous gen's slutpop/girlcrush thing escalating and dying off and decided to try the other way around, now that a lot of the cute groups are kind of faltering too everyone's looking at girlcrush again
wonder if the cute/pure wave was coming anyway because groups like gfriend and lovelyz debuted before twice and even rv's debut was kinda cutesy
Landon Ross
who?
Jackson White
I'd also give Everglow a decent chance of stealing wins from RV
RV got literally no wins for RBB when no other big group was promoting.
Austin Wood
>chewy is still not 20 yet
Noah Myers
Based
Austin Gomez
Article: Bonsang Red Velvet, "The reason we don't settle for average genres is because of our fans"
Source: Newsen via Nate
1. [+342, -48] Settle for what ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ you're just doing what your agency tells you to do. You guys are talking like you actually produce your own concepts ㅋㅋㅋ
2. [+245, -42] Their songs are bad, regardless of genre...
3. [+201, -39] Their problem is that they're all bad except for Seulgi
4. [+26, -7] What a way to glamorize their flop comeback
5. [+19, -9] So is that why your new song flopped? It was #30 in just a day ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
6. [+18, -6] I find it ridiculous that they're acting like they intended for all of this ㅋㅋ like they purposely chose a bad song for their title track
7. [+18, -5] Genres are the least of your problems
8. [+17, -4] Whatever genre your music is, that was decided by your production team, not yourselves. Your concepts and music styles may be unique but I don't know if I'd call it good... Perhaps they would've been better off winning a producer award.
9. [+15, -9] There are tons of songs that are unique but still good, theirs are just weird and bad
10. [+11, -4] I think they're in dire need of dance and singing practice more than worrying about their genres
Landon Perry
based
Brayden Robinson
. [+201, -39] Their problem is that they're all bad except for Seulgi
kek based slug
Easton Morris
PDX101 Episode 4
poooo.ml
GET IN HERE
John Murphy
How many times did she dab by now?
Luke James
yeah rv is so unstable. they dont have monstrous physical like twice and izone. their digital is decreasing too.
Thomas Bennett
STUPID
Justin Rodriguez
2018 Week 49 Gaon Digital
gaonchart.co.kr
RBB peaks at #10 on Gaon Digital
2019 Week 14 Gaon Digital
gaonchart.co.kr
Violeta peaks at #18 on Gaon Digital
RBB did better than IZ*ONE
Jayden Gutierrez
who do you think is the loudest?
Christopher Hughes
Chuu's double-chin...
Jaxson Baker
they've been pretty consistent up til rbb
Nathan Campbell
what about melon?
Gabriel Diaz
i don't think she is a prolific dabber
she just do it for the memes, she loves them
Michael Adams
nobody's watching that dogshit
Andrew Bennett
Right now girlpop revolves around Twice and BP. It's like if the 2nd generation only had SNSD and 2ne1 and Kara, T-ara, etc were never able to compete effectively. SM are big enough that RV can do whatever they want and don't really have to compete directly, GFriend still do solid with their purepop stuff because they built a fanbase early enough and Mamamoo can do the vocal thing they do but virtually every other group seems to be modeled around Twice/BP or some sort of Gfriend style purepop even though they won't succeed.
Jordan Powell
>completely ignores the camera
love this cake
Nicholas Martin
Based, she only cared about food
video.twimg.com
Dylan Campbell
RBB was released during award season when literally no one relevant was releasing music other than twice who didn't even promote year of yes.
Violeta was released simultaneously with Chen and a literal day before Bbol4, a week before KTL and Persona.
These 2 album releases aren't even comparable, RV had no competition and still flopped, while IZ*ONE held their own during a stacked period.
Jeremiah Hughes
pretty sure they factor melon in
Tyler Mitchell
>SM are big enough that RV can do whatever they want and don't really have to compete directly
not really. with exo joining the army sm is fucked if rv and nct don't step it up
Aiden Gray
you still haven't proved why izone numbers
are factually worse according to the links I gave you, you just brought up excuses
Adam Powell
This is why I love Hyewon
Easton Williams
Unabashedly based
Robert Morales
going straight to her hips
Angel Johnson
rv is fine for the most part. nct is the problem
Anthony Rivera
Ehh, Itzy managed to release Dalla Dalla during a dead spot in the calendar sort of like how MMLD released Bboom BBoom during a dead spot last year. Until Itzy proves that they can follow it up with success against a big group I'm going to be doubtful about them.
Benjamin Murphy
I'm not saying it isn't, but Twice's style isn't that distinct that everyone is trying to copy them. Up until recently they have just released regular ass pop music, its not girl crush or purepop.
Gavin Cox
digital score is a meme. it's like youtube videos. most people who stream are roasties, so groups with female fanbases will have inflated scores there. izone fans buy albums but they're not gonna stream the song all day like a bunch of retards
Jack Fisher
loona and dreamcatcher are the exceptions this gen
Connor Reed
jesus christ man I gave you numbers to show you that RBB did factually better than violeta and you keep changing the subject, if you have nothing constructive to say going forward just admit you are trying to white knight them
Zachary Baker
They're worse because they released music during a period where literally everyone who was releasing music has fanbases of incomparable size to theirs, and are much more established than them?
Red Velvet released RBB on November 30th. No one actually relevant is releasing music that late year in the year, and the album still factually flopped.
You're trying to cope by looking at numbers in a vacuum and not realizing that the situations aren't even comparable.
Why don't you talk about RV's poor album sales?
Nicholas Powell
then why don't boy groups dominate digital charts too?
Nicholas Miller
RBB vs Violetta
Elijah Cruz
they are, that's why gooks ignore them
you either copy twice and bp or else gooks will pretend you don't exist
Wyatt White
That still shows a factual higher peak
Cooper Jenkins
i just explained it to you. gaon digital is propped up by streaming. rv fans are more inclined to stream because they're roasties
Jordan Bailey
imagine seriously discussing meaningless shit like this
Brayden Reed
>copying twice
groups are going to release generic pop music regardless
Kayden Hughes
god you're mentally ill, keep spamming your buzzwords
Jacob Stewart
>how do we stop the SEA invasion of kpop?
We import cutie white(y) instead
Wyatt Harris
lmao what a bunch of retarded roasties
Zachary Robinson
Basing a trend line on a single release is pretty dubious. PU was their most successful digital ever. RF had longer legs but PU peaked higher.
Michael Lewis
...
Isaac Turner
Higher peak but faster drop.
RV is technically still bigger than IZ*ONE, it shows how bad RBB really was. It was utter shit.
Carter Wright
like every kpop fans, most kpop fans in indonesia are teenage girls who think girl crush concept is cool
Asher Brooks
isn't monsta x a big group?
Lincoln Gonzalez
eww
Justin Evans
this is real girl crush
Grayson Edwards
even the koreans know that most white girls are roasties.
finding one that doesn't have issues with fat acceptance, dating, etc and actually looks cute is absolutely an abysmal task and it's technically illegal to even find out these things and fire people for it.
that's the whole reason why hapa are so rare in kpop despite being visually more appealing to most koreans. finding one like nancy or somi is one in ten thousand, most are like kyla or shannon williams.
Juan Foster
go get plastic surgery
Camden Lopez
This but unironically