I have been wondering this for a while... How would you Rap poly-rhythmically? When I say "poly-rhythmically" I'm not talking about rapping by subdividing the beat into even numbers(everyone does this, see Migos rapping triplets over four). I'm talking about the Rap vocals being polyrhythmic by themselves.
You could layer Rap vocals together, but it would be weird and difficult to understand, it would be unpractical to be honest.
How would you not immediately think of the obvious solutions: to coordinate two different rhyme schemes in a polyrhythm. Oh shit this is exactly what i was trying to suggest. Yes do this
Tyler Hughes
... accents
Sebastian Price
>coordinate two different rhyme schemes in a polyrhythm. Exactly this, two rhyme schemes in your sentences
Elijah Gonzalez
That's nice in theory but do you have working examples? How would you made one?
Luis Miller
>How or*
David Nelson
It’s experimental music youre talking about user you are gonna have to experiment with it
Jonathan Peterson
White people got no rhythm and can't understand things like this. This is the wrong place to ask
Levi Young
Not OP, I just found this thread and wanted to see for myself
Adrian Turner
Isn’t it already polyrhythmic because the rhymes make one rhythm while the cadence of speech make another?
John Jackson
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Aiden Myers
Raps not about nerd shirt like that. Just catch the beat and ride it.
Joseph Campbell
I believe Riff Raff accomplishes this on the track Orion's Belt
Lucas Garcia
Polyrhythm aren't "nerd shits", if anything they are more "folk shit".
Brandon Gomez
Well whatever maybe you're right in that context. I mean that when you rap, it's gotta be like jazz or something, that's how you flow from the soul. Like a bebop solo. Don't think to hard just flow how the beat makes you feel. It's not meant for everyone.
Luke Ward
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Jack Jones
>it's gotta be like jazz or something And Jazz is full of polyrhythms...
>Like a bebop solo. Don't think to hard just flow how the beat makes you feel. It's not meant for everyone. Just a question, have you ever done a bebop solo or Jazz improvisation? If no, then try right now, just do as you "feel". If it sounds like shit, then don't be surprised, it's because you don't get the technique.
Making music is not just about "doing as you feel". You think a bit about the concepts and tools that you are going to use to express those "feelings" in a way that sounds good. Even in Rap people think about concepts like "delivery", "rhyme schemes", "flow", "bars", "16-bar", "syllables", "stress", "accent" etc...
You don't just wake up and go on the piano and then randomly touch the keys. Why the fuck do you think that Coltrane practiced the C major scale for 11 HOURS STRAIGHT on the piano?
Adrian Garcia
>Making music is not just about "doing as you feel". You think a bit about the concepts and tools that you are going to use to express those "feelings" in a way that sounds good. Even in Rap people think about concepts like "delivery", "rhyme schemes", "flow", "bars", "16-bar", "syllables", "stress", "accent" etc... cringe and bluepilled
Andrew Anderson
And you are talking about Jazz and Bebop as if you ever even tried to practice any of those. "It'S gOttA Be LIkE JaZz" . Good players have to learn and practice a dozen of scales in all 12 keys before being able to improvise well and spontaneously. And Bebop??? Hahaha. Try to make Bebop right now. It'a full of rapid chord & key changes with complex chord progressions and improvisitions on harmonic structures and shit... all in a fast tempo.
Isaac Thompson
Expressing feelings doesn't mean that you can't(or don't) think about the tools and techniques you use to express them, especially not when talking about Jazz or Bebop. When you do A LOT of trainings and become very experienced it starts to become natural but you will have to learn your concepts and train yourself before reaching this point.