What are some "over-produced" albums?

still bretty gud though

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Tweez. Albini done goofed

Most of kanyes

The only correct answer so far.

u both are dumb retards :)

Leonard Cohen- Death of a Ladies’ Man

Production is way too heavy for her wispy little voice on some tracks. Felt like the blasted bass was only added on the tracks 2, 3, and 12 to make it sound more "SoundCloud".

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This.

All early Oasis albums have shit production, but this takes the cake.

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This. Tyler is great and all but he really needs to let someone else produce

No such thing friend.

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I find it ridiculous when she tried to make this professionally recorded and mastered album sound lofi

It's all part of the marketing. Her whole appeal is the illusion that it's just her and her brother making music in their bedroom on their own.

he be on his Prince shit

A lot of the tracks could be cut down by 5-10 minutes or so

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there's just 3 tracks tho

brainlet that’s not what overproduced means

No surprise that Kurt hated its production so much, it sounds like Pop Punk. That's why I prefer Bleach and In Utero.

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Will we ever get another album like Deconstruction?

the best version of every song on nevermind is whichever live version is the latest/unplugged

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Blink 182's last album California was over produced garbage. Sounded so clean and sterile.

It's not overproduced. It's just a bit radio friendly.

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Never Let me Down by David Bowie

the 2018 remix album is better, but the mixing is still shit

Shit I had this CD I was like 8 or 9

This

wew

not mine its smooth and creamy but rough round the edges at the same time. its literally a more exciting album than anything ive heard thats come out in the last two years

Loveless is the obvious choice

This thing is brickwalled to shit and back and it sounds terrible

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Explain over produced to a pleb, please.
i always thought it was when an album sounded too "digital" or something

It's a meme buzzword used by hipsters who think everything should sound "raw" so they hate actually skilled producers like Devin Townsend and Steven Wilson.

it means that it sounds too good and it's a stupid concept imo

Digital production techniques allow producers to make music sound louder at the expense of dynamic range and natural sounding instruments and voices. A lot of people don't like this trend in modern music and complain about it.

Here's a good video if you want a deeper explanation:
youtube.com/watch?v=u9Fb3rWNWDA

cool, thanks

Nerd faggots

that's not what overproduction is
an ""overproduced"" track is more likely to have a good dynamic range

Based

>Track 2
Xanny is a jam though.

>I don't know what over produced means

It's okay. Nobody really does.

Siamese Dream. Billy's millions of guitars drown out Jimmy's drumming a bit. Still one of the best of all time though

Just listen to the demos and you'll see why.

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Any kind of serious music those DMU shills hates. Just any kind of music doesn't sound "hurr durr necro" e.g. Burzum or any other shit recorded or produced by a potato.

Found the retarded

Demos sound awful. The production on this is perfect.

>old good
>new bad

(s)oy.

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>clean and sterile
Clean and sterile is how I would describe 'overproduced', yes. Albums that intentionally have lots of layers like can't be overproduced because the production still meets the intent.

I'm not saying it's bad, it could just use a bit more grittiness.

Why? it's fine

>because the production still meets the intent.
What if the intent was to be clean and sterile? Thus that is not overproduced

everything from the 60s and 70s

Like Creedence Clearwater Revival?

No you're a fucking idiot

imagine an acoustic guitar song that has a developed chord progression

now take that and add drums, bass, and vocals

now take that and multi-track the vocals, add additional guitar, accessory effects. now multi-track the guitars. now add a string orchestra. now add a choir.

this is production

>now take that and add drums, bass, and vocals
>now take that and multi-track the vocals, add additional guitar, accessory effects. now multi-track the guitars. now add a string orchestra. now add a choir.
Then it's not an :acoustic guitar song", is it?

Hence it's not over produced

Especially that one album "Trout Replica mask" that is the msot over produced album i ever heard.

Simple creatures and the newest blink 182 song

it started as acoustic guitar, and then it was produced into something more.

production is like adding fluff. you might have a song which contains only a basic chord progression played on a solo instrument, and then you might add vocals, additional melody, instruments, and effects on top of that. the degree to which that song has too much production is entirely subjective.

here's a good example of a minimally produced song (solo guitar with vocal)

youtube.com/watch?v=49M10VIXPk4

And here is an example of a very produced song (multi-tracked guitars, choir, string orchestra, gradual ascent as it builds and builds and adds more layers)

youtube.com/watch?v=bdT8ixdxPX4

Everyone is too fond of it to be honest with themselves. The fact that SLTS is constructed from a repetitive sample (the chorused two note guitar riff during the verses) and uses a drum machine, on top of excessive vocal overdubs during the pre-chorus (the chorus isn't TOO bad) is proof that Butch Vig was too fond of his toys to have restraint. Compare it to Siamese Dream, Fantastic Planet, or Downward is Heavenward for alternative '90s albums with radically more involved production without being overproduced.

Eh, it's just a matter of preference really. I think a more gritty sound fits the angsty vocals a lot better.

>it started as acoustic guitar
Irrelevant. Most music can. It's what the end result is that matters
>And here is an example of a very produced song
Except the product fits the intent of the song, and is thus not overproduced
>weezer
>angsty
No

>The fact that SLTS is constructed from a repetitive sample
[citation needed]

Also
>and uses a drum machine
Are you a tard?

i'm not arguing about what overproduction is. i'm explaining what production is, because there seems to be a lot of confusion about that. after establishing what production even is, then we can have a better discussion about what OVERproduction is (which is entirely subjective)

Fair enough

Bad Guy is track 2, Xanny is track 3. I agree Xanny is the much better track.

based and nuanced

this is the answer

>it started as acoustic guitar, and then it was produced into something more.
lol m8 that's how songs/arrangements are made . . .

tweez

based
cringe

But in a good way

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any 90s band. their latest album

this. I love devin but holy fuck he overproduces

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youtube.com/watch?v=G0gedCoT430
The verses
0:25-0:50
I can't find the documentation for this part in writing, but it is well documented that Butch Vig bought an Akai sampler prior to the Sound City recording sessions for Nevermind after hearing about hip hop artists using sampling (Public Enemy and Beastie Boys, IIRC, were the ones cited). And anyone familiar with Butch Vig's work (e.g. Garbage) will know he likes his studio magic.
I'm using hyperbole, but the mixing engineer used samples of drums on top of Grohl's drumming.
From a Q&A with Butch Vig
gearslutz.com/board/q-a-with-butch-vig/398321-how-did-you-get-neverminds-drum-sound.html
Q:
>Also, was there any sampling that you added to the snare or any other drums. If so, can you elaborate on the ratio of sampling to real drum sound?
A:
>Andy Wallace added a bit of his custom samples as ambience, they get a bit of the "gunshot" effect
>Re: samples, I'm pretty sure Andy had a bit of them mixed in the background on kick and snare. He would load them into an AMS, and trigger them from the sync head with a delay.

There you go, next time please come into the thread informed before you post, to make a better posting experience for everyone involved :^))) thanks and have a nice day

>I can't find the documentation for this part in writing
Well try harder, because that's what a citation is.
>but it is well documented that Butch Vig bought an Akai sampler prior to the Sound City recording sessions for Nevermind
Nope. Never heard that one. Gonna need a [citation]
>And anyone familiar with Butch Vig's work (e.g. Garbage) will know he likes his studio magic.
Garbage and Nirvana are completely different projects
>but the mixing engineer used samples of drums on top of Grohl's drumming.
So you misspoke

Next time please come into the thread informed before you post

The new Imagine Dragons album.

>over-produced
Meaningless hipster term.

incubus - science

Any red hot chillis album, californication being the very obvious example

No it means nerds who spend more time tinkering with computers and soundboards than they do actually playing music.

op asked for overproduction not bad production

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>one of the songs has like 30 guitar overdubs
what the fuck were they thinking

What? This album's production is mostly minimal.

How does lo-fi correlate with over-produced?

im sorry that you’re retarded.

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