Albini on Zappa

>"The bulk of his music is neither good enough nor bad enough to warrant all this discussion. It's nerdy and self-conscious but hardly highbrow. He's a competent guitarist who typically had an atrocious sound and didn't play a single memorable lick. His band didn't make mistakes but were similarly insipid in tone and have no moments of genuine power."

>"It's like rock music devoid of rock, plus a few pages of music school exercises in odd-meter timekeeping. I can't understand how anybody could either like it or dislike it."

>"I mean, it's not as bad as the Eagles, but also not as good as the Eagles.''

Was he right?

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holy fuck steve is based

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literally who

No, he was wrong.

Actually 100% correct. Only naïve, beginner musicians are impressed by his antics.

albini is a faggot nerd and was probably bullied by chads like zappa

Sheik Yerbouti [Zappa, 1979]
If this be social "satire," how come its sole targets are ordinary citizens whose weirdnesses happen to diverge from those of the retentive gent at the control board? Or are we to read his new fixation on buggery as an indication of approval? Makes you wonder whether his primo guitar solo on "Yo' Mama" and those as-unique-as-they-used-to-be rhythms and textures are as arid spiritually as he is. As if there were any question after all these years. C

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seething because Uncle Meat is better than any album he ever made

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>scaruffi

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based scaruffi drone

cringe christgau drone

No.

once a nonce always a nonce

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extremely based

I like Albini's music, but he should not try so hard to sound intelligent.

lol I bet he thinks the beatles were better than the shaggs too

>punk musician talking about what is and isn't highbrow

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Alright, now add in all the albums Albini has produced as well.

>produced

>"""""produced"""""

he's right

Even then Uncle Meat is more highly rated by Scaruffo than all of them.

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what the fuck I'm dressed just like Scaruffi in this picture
did I stole his clothes

Are you Peter Griffin?

peter wears GREEN pants dude

No, Peter's pants are green, and I don't own green pants.

Steve albini fucked my gf

how many times?

>implying Albini produced a 9/10 album

>implying Albini produced

2 times then quit it

Ys is a near perfect album.

"produced by Newsom and Van Dyke Parks, recorded by Steve Albini"
Oh well.

Surfer Rosa

Yes

>highbrow
>Albini
wtf, he literally was in a band called "Rapeman" and "Run Nigger Run"
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what is this meme?

>meme

he has a point for some periods of Zappa's career (see below), but Zappa had a great guitar sound in the early 70's and many memorable licks - even if he would recycle the same licks


this is good commentary. Sheik Yerbouti is clearly a point where the quality of Zappa's album is already plummeting and instead of being funny or clever, he basically became a mean asshole

>In 2010, he revealed that he is not an avid consumer of media and watches a lot of cat videos on YouTube, while avoiding feature films.[18]
holy kek, he's the gusic poster

very based
gun gigger gun

He didn't say anything. Love this shit, Steve truly knows how to waste people's time.

I like zappa but he spent too much time on the peepee poopoo comedy music

same except for the cat videos, even tho I do have cats
now I will forever fear about getting married

Don't really get these kinds of threads

Of COURSE Steve Albini wouldn't like Zappa, you've heard his music right? And all his favorite bands are punk or punk adjacent too.

toasted

That rambling can be summarized with:
>I can't understand how anybody could either like it or dislike it.
Seems like he got asked about it and just wanted to waste the time of whoever asked that question. Because he could easily have replied with "I don't mind him".

He's just obviously a punk orientated person

All of his records can have the punk tag on them

If he was a musician with a super varied output then I could see him being more into Zappa. Like Mark Kozelek for example, he has a very varied output and even parodies Zappa briefly on one of his songs to a good comedic effect.

Zappa has released a lot of stuff that was neither here nor there, and his writing in jazz fusion suffered from alot of bloat.

But Albini is the rick rubin of indeh so he has no right to speak

The "niggering everything in sight" pasta is better than any of the music's he's had a hand in creating/producing/recording

Probably because its true

>>In 2010, he revealed that he is not an avid consumer of media
redpilled and based.
>and watches a lot of cat videos on YouTube
to each its own but based anyways.
>while avoiding feature films.[18]
redpilled about °°°hollywood°°°

incredible human bean.

>"I think fashion is repulsive. The whole idea that someone else can make clothing that is supposed to be in style and make other people look good is ridiculous. It sickens me to think that there is an industry that plays to the low self-esteem of the general public. I would like the fashion industry to collapse. I think it plays to the most superficial, most insecure parts of human nature. I hope GQ as a magazine fails. I hope that all of these people who make a living by looking pretty are eventually made destitute or forced to do something of substance. At least pornography has a function."

/fa/ btfo

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absolutely based if true
sauce?

Some interview he did with GQ lol

He's right

the picture proves him wrong, but at least he's got a good grasp of the kind of people his fans are

out

post that pasta pls

/fa/ utterly bodied.

good songs but sounds like shit tbqh
seems like Albini just hanged a couple of malfunctioning mics above the room

Albini is the single most based guy on this planet, even more so than Scaruffi

and created the sound of a whole generation, and the decades that would come.

>>"I mean, it's not as bad as the Eagles, but also not as good as the Eagles.''
bodied tbqh

It’s actually pretty on point

extremely based.

Steve's hot takes are always entertaining regardless if I agree with them or not.

absolute virgin

He's not the producer, user.

Unironically true. Zappa was proto-sporkcore and was jealous of actual avant garde rock.

"The opening night was very crowded and Zappa and members of the Mothers of Invention showed up to show their support. (...) Nico's delivery of her material was very flat, deadpan, and expressionless, and she played as though all of her songs were dirges. She seemed as though she was trying to resurrect the ennui and decadence of Weimar, pre-Hitler Germany. Her icy, Nordic image also added to the detachment of her delivery. (...) The audience was on her side, as she was in her element and the Warhol contingent was very prominent that night. However, what happened next is what sticks in my mind the most from that night. In between sets, Frank Zappa got up from his seat and walked up on the stage and sat behind the keyboard of Nico's B-3 organ. He proceeded to place his hands indiscriminately on the keyboard in a total, atonal fashion and screamed at the top of his lungs, doing a caricature of Nico's set, the one he had just seen. The words to his impromptu song were the names of vegetables like broccolli, cabbage, asparagus... This "song" kept going for about a minute or so and then suddenly stopped. He walked off the stage and the show moved on. It was one of the greatest pieces of rock 'n roll theater that I have ever seen."

based Zappa, shitting on the proto-hipster scene

Totally agree. Humor doesnt belong in music.

kek, what a jealous faggot.

Wow what the fuck albini.

I know this is just a subjective opinion but I almost feel the need to ask for a source because there’s no way Steve is that retarded.

Zappa isn’t for everyone, but his discography warrants a fuckton of discussion and he’s one of the most criminally Underrated, underdiscussed musicians out there.

You can tell how stupid Steve’s statement is because he’s chalking a majority of Zappa’s work up to rock. Which is silly. Zappa detested rock many times. Zappa’s rock work isn’t even 1/4th of his catalogue. And while it’s not conventional, it’s definitely uniquely Zappa’s, and plenty of its hard hitting.

Albini is just a pleb who can’t seem to handle Zappa basically BTFO every single alternative/experimental future artist and did pretty much everything there is to do in music decades before they even thought about it.

>MUH I CAN BE THE ONLY INTERESTING EXPERIMENTAL ARTIST
fuck off steve

T. ZDF

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The instrumentals are the best part of his work though

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zappa only released a handful of albums worth listening to you pleb.

>Humor doesnt belong in music.
Zappa put it in just to piss off people like you.

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>I mean, it's not as bad as the Eagles, but also not as good as the Eagles
Scaruffi wishes he wrote a single sentence like this in all his mountains of shitty reviews

PROVOCATIVE SQUATS

GUM ME LONGUH

are you serious? that sentence sounds like something cuckgau would write

ya but it illustrates his point perfectly while insulting zappa by putting him below a lame band

scaruffi is never that effective, it's always just direct nerd statements where he's trying to convince himself he's talking from a position of superiority.

>OMG I LOVE FRANK ZAPPA

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effective at what? writing snappy one-liners for zoomers to gobble up?

There's a lot of flaws to zappa's music, but don't justify bad writing

>OMG I LOVE BEING CONTRARIAN AND POSTING MSPAINT MEMES

>contrarian
what

Personally it doesn't irritate me I just never inclined to relisten to his comedy albums

Liking Zappa's shitty music is being a contrarian.

>Was he right?

The only Zappa stuff I ever owned was the two Joe's Garage albums and the Valley Girl single. End of story. I LOVED the first Joe's Garage album. It's stellar. But the second one (Acts II & III) was as bad as the first was good. So, I cooled it with continuing to be a fan of his.

Having said all that, I think Albini is a little too hard on Zappa. If nothing else, he was one of the early pioneers in jazz-rock fusion, and he should be remembered positively for that contribution.

It’s more than a one liner, it illustrates perfectly the problem with Zappas music, which is that it thinks it can use careful discrimination and self awareness to compensate for the lack of any real creativeness. Even something as kitsch as the eagles is more transcendent than Zappa

I dont get this meme,whenever Albini is involved with anything some dude comes and said he fucked his gf

no see, what you just wrote, that was a good description
that one liner is just snappy (and that's a good thing) tier trash

poopoo peepee xd

Now she hates me

Shellac couldn't play a Zappa song if their lives depended on it.

This.

wow i had no idea he even had a hand in the album
i bet he did absolutely nothing half the time

Albini turned her out

>He's a competent guitarist who typically had an atrocious sound and didn't play a single memorable lick.
imagine being this mad and wrongabout the guitar on the track Apostraphe

that describes albini himself just as much if not better

I thought you were joking, but GQ still have the article up. It's its closing line. How based do you have to be to talk with an interviewer for half an hour and then casually drop that you hate everything they stand for?

fuck you zhdanov

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