Whenever a Smiths fan tells you that Morrissey is a genius or whatever shit he's spouting at the moment...

what cure song is that?

This Twilight Garden. One of their best and it's a B-side

The Shit's are shit

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looks like an ancient god

morrissey's a whiny progresist cunt. the adicts told me about a time when they shared a flight with him and the faggot wanted to go back in the middle of the flight because he didn't like the plane

*overweight faggot

morrissey is a pretentious racist oscar wilde larper

Your pic literally makes Morrissey look better

The Cure is far better, Smiths are embarrassing.
Pornography and Disintegration alone outshine Smith.
Faith, Wish, Seventeen Seconds, Head On The Door. Cure were far more adventurous while Smiths stuck to their Jangle Pop.

>I like the pretty boy not the other guy who makes good music

God that's ugly

I like both but slightly prefer The Smiths for that guitar sound and the depressive sexually confused virgin lyrics. The Cure are more adventurous musically though and I like their early stuff in particular a lot.

>mick
>chad

The Cure > JAMC > Morrissey/Smiths

man if only JAMC made more than 1 good album they would be god tier
cure made like 2 or 3 good albums
smiths made 5 good albums

still tho morrisey is a lil bitchboi

no they weren't.
smith has literally 2 songs that even come close to the dozens and dozens of masterpieices morrissey and marr wrote.

the smiths were more versatile, more musically interesting, and better. anything cure fans say are pure lies that are basically massive cope fantasies.

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>Only two good albums
Two master pieces
Four good albums

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smiths >>>> cure
stop being triggered by morrissey to deny basic facts

Nah, Cure have been far more experimental, Smiths is Jangle Pop, well written one, but Cure have objectively delved into more genres

The only good songs by The Smiths are Jeane and Miserable Lie

The Cure had a better run, they still made good albums into the 90s.

>more versatile
are you fucking insane?

The Cure has songs for literally every emotion in the human spectrum. The Smiths is 90% self-deprecating ironic bullshit.

The Smiths fags only know Disintegration and are tourists, never heard other amazing Cure albums

>man if only JAMC made more than 1 good album
Psychocandy and Darklands are both better than anything The Smiths have ever put out except for "How Soon is Now?". Automatic is also severely underrated, so that's 3 good albums.

smiths never made a bad album
cure have made multiple

Cure also made more albums and their highs have been far higher than Smith's so it balances out

this
compare three imaginary boys to pornography to disintegration to wish
meanwhile all smiths albums sound pretty similar

>their highs have been far higher
no

The Smiths never made an album without filler songs, The Cure has Disintegration and Pornography

Let's be honest the only good JAMC song is Head On. It's a banger. Everything else is subpar

Johnny Marr wins it for The Smiths. Straight up.

what would u say their masterpieces are? honestly i havent listened to the cure in a minute and looking back they mightve actually have had some really great albums gonna relisten now
i would say pornography and disintegration

tried to like darklands sm after loving psychocandy but fuck man its not even anywhere near close to the masterpiece thats pyschocandy

>The Head on The Door
>Faith
>Seventeen Seconds
>Wish
are all excellent
Kiss Me also has fantastic songs, but has some filler

For The Cure, listen to Head on The Door. If you liked Psychocandy but not Darklands then try Automatic, it's a lot more similar.

>the smiths were more versatile, more musically interesting, and better
Deaf much? You can clearly trace evolution of The Cure's sound from new wave to post-punk to blend of gothic rock and dream pop, whereas The Smith have always sticked to basic jangle pop making the same track over and over again. Absolutely nothing stands out on The Smiths' records: guitar riffs are forgettable as hell, drumming is nauseatingly generic and the bass doesn't get paid as much attention as it should. Guitar tone is the only thing that makes The Smiths' albums listenable at all desu

Even The Cure's worst albums still have 10/10 songs

Robert Smith is boring, normal guy pretends to be a insane macabre weirdo.

Morrissey is an insane macabre weirdo who pretends to be a normal guy.

Pornography > Faith > 17 Seconds > Disintegration > Bloodflowers > Head Door = Wish > everything else

based

>You can clearly trace evolution of The Cure's sound from shitty rock to shitty rock to blend of shitty rock and shitty rock

>from new wave to post-punk to blend of gothic rock and dream pop,
namedropping genres isn't impressive. these were all so close to each other stylistically, it's not much "progression" from one to the other.

Yes, those two albums are masterpieces
Other amazing albums
>Three Imaginary Boys
>Seventeen Seconds
>Faith
>Wish
>Kiss Me Kiss Me
>The Head On The Door
>Bloodflowers

How are post punk and dream pop similar

why would i listen to the cure when i could listen to echo and the bunnymen

as you can see right away, pure fucking cope by O B S E S S E D cure fans. throwing out the same braindead view that the smiths are somehow not musically versatile or that they're generic. proving that they're not just eternally bitter to the point of being deaf, but also musically illiterate. i won't even get into how fucking hilarious it is to say that the smiths had filler songs but the cure never did. get a fucking grip.

youtube.com/watch?v=__PblMAprcA

youtube.com/watch?v=gemNU9mTsig

youtube.com/watch?v=GeG-7MYaqA8

youtube.com/watch?v=jXRVc-ott4A

youtube.com/watch?v=1nPT64U6X40

youtube.com/watch?v=cJRP3LRcUFg

everything from 2 minute pop perfection to near-prog virtuosity within the context of brilliantly lucid, but complex, vivid, but subdued songwriting.
keep coping. it should tell you all you need to know that these kinds of threads are never made by smiths or morrissey fans. it's always these bitter old fuck cure fans trying to push their meme opinions on everybody.

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You are honestly fucking deaf if you think that the transition from The Smiths to Strangeways shows more musical versatility than the transition from 3 Imaginary Boys to Pornography to Kiss Me to Disintegration to Wish.

It's fine if you like The Smiths better, but it's literally impossible to argue in good faith that their discography has more musical versatility

i would put the smiths in some teenage gay film or something

youtube.com/watch?v=Wdf1EE_KuSo this track alone is more worthy than anything from the smiths or morrisson

The only good song the smithers ever made:
youtube.com/watch?v=OztC_7nkAd8

that song sucks dick

>why listen to good music when I can listen to bad music

>Just post random singles/songs from compilations
Nah, just a few little oddities don't mean shit, Cure sound different on every single album, I could puke a million of links of different sounding Cure songs just from studio albums alone.

plebbiest of opinions

meat is murder is so good desu

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Marr's guitarwork is on another level compared to The Cure. It blurs the line between rhythm and lead guitar and gives the music a sense of life and elasticity The Cure completely lacked, with their shitty club oriented gated drums, clumsy root note plucking guitarwork and dated synth.

but the cure is bad music

at least mozzer changes up his sound here or there. robert smith is a one trick pony. it gets tiring sometimes- and full disclosure I love both bands/people but morrissey forever

>shitty club orientated gate drums
that's because Cure fans grind on big titty girls at goth clubs, while Smiths virgins wank into a napkin at home

@87833202
>at least mozzer changes up his sound here or there. robert smith is a one trick pony.
This doesn't even deserve a (You).

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The Cure's complaints were far more expensive larger and more daring, Smiths might have had a better guitarists but all they did was Jangle Pop with it

The Bunnymen are about 6 billion times better than the Cure.

youtube.com/watch?v=H4oGKOFYhwo

youtube.com/watch?v=_ByT3_1_KGA

youtube.com/watch?v=olNQWNrKxn8

youtube.com/watch?v=lFCNikO5TmA

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imagine thinking either of these two are the best british band of the 80s when Iron Maiden exists

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"Compositions" kek fuck me I'm tired

>they did more genres so they better!

Still all better than fucking jangle pop lmao
youtube.com/watch?v=PDVzELTbHPg
youtube.com/watch?v=oA4Zdpw5MN0
youtube.com/watch?v=YSaNXpD49Qw
Although all these genres are indeed connected with each other, it's still unfair to bond them as just 'alike' without being more specific on their differences, because they do sound quite diverse on their own and certainly far more diverse than anything that The Smiths were playing

exactly, who cares if Marr is technically more talented, he's not better at writing music.

But of course Smiths fans are autists who think that technical wankery is more important than soulful songwriting

Based, Smiths fags never actually heard The Cure

>strawman
We're objecting to the idiotic user who said that The Smiths are more versatile. The Cure happens to be better, but no one has said that the *reason* they are better is because they did more genres.

39's guitar at the end fucks me up everytime

I'm going to throw in Cocteau Twins as lowkey the best indie band of the 80s. Better than Smiths, Cure, and JAMC.

>But of course Smiths fans are autists who think that technical wankery is more important than soulful songwriting
now THAT'S a strawman

this is by far the worst post i've seen on Yea Forums.
how long have you been listening to music?
marr isn't just technical wankery, are you fucking brain-damaged perhaps? he's one of the most soulful guitar songwriters in history.
probably the best with his track record.
the only thing robert ever did close was in between days and just like heaven.

>they did more genres and did each of them very well so they're better!
ftfy

This comparison is retarded
You're all dumb
These two bands have nothing to do with one another, only connection they have is that the front men hate each other.
This is like that dumb war of The Stones vs Beatles, it comes down to preference
They aren't even in the same genre

>Marr's guitarwork is on another level compared to The Cure. It blurs the line between rhythm and lead guitar and gives the music a sense of life and elasticity The Cure completely lacked, with their shitty club oriented gated drums, clumsy root note plucking guitarwork and dated synth.

not as good as the bunnymen though

no, echo and the bunnymen actually were straight wank-fests. JMAC, cure, smiths, cocteau twins, all light years ahead of them.

>he mentioned one aspect so that's the only thing he likes about the band

in what way

this
all of those bands are great. fuck bunnymen. some of the most boring, uninteresting music ive ever heard. so overrated

i could say the same about the cure

youtube.com/watch?v=D9hnYF6g4A0

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youtube.com/watch?v=n8-hbS4CSoQ

the studio albums being aside the smiths and morrisson were and are shit live, i've witnessed it myself multiple times. morrisson gets even worse while the cure gives 3 hour long shows with variety of songs.

also, there's no fucking point in comparing those bands. they have a repertoire nothing alike.

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>random
it seems you missed the point, but i know cure cope has reached critical mass in this thread so i forgive you.

>zero arguments

based and mozpilled.

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u would b wrong tho

honestly this the only reason ppl always compare them is cuz of the beef they had back then

another reason they're compared is because they're two sides of the same uber depressed post punk coin.

It just comes down to whether you like Goth hos or Art Hos

>u would b wrong tho
epic argument

depressed, sure. but i wouldnt say that the smiths are post punk, theyre purely jangle pop
even just looking at the audience is just so different. smiths fans looked legit like the most pretentious, annoying people on earth. that stupid ass haircut, jean jackets, white as fuck and posh. i would honestly not admit to being a smiths fan back in the day (modern times is way different tho)

coming from someone who prefers smiths btw

goth hoes are peak

fuck up bunnyboy

The Cure's more manic depressive. Robert can write a diabetes inducing pop tune, just look at Friday I'm In Love or Mint Car.

>white as fuck

wow, excellent argument when the genre's 99% white guys.
really insightful. and they're not purely jangle-pop. they have dozens of songs that don't even use that template. listen to the fucking music before posting about it for epic replies, holy shit.

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go back to your containment board

not an argument, but thanks for conceding that you don't actually listen to the music.

I'm not him, I'm just amused by you getting triggered because he mentioned "white"

posh bothered me more because it's fucking england, what do you expect, but i knew there'd be someone that tried to spin it the other way. god forbid i expect something more than just "oh my god they're posh".

how out of touch do you have to be to not know that me saying "being white" refers to how they act and dress rather than being only about their race

some kid named Cornelius who dresses like he goes to a rich private school with like boat shoes and talking about how mommy and daddy pay for his frat fees, thats an example of being white as fuck

god you morons complain so much about how everyone is such a snowflake yet you'll be so quick to be triggered about that. fragile wh*teboy lol

and the smiths are almost entirely jangle pop lmaoo. they have a handful of songs that deviate from being that but even those arent post punk. stop telling toher people to listen to the music when either you clearly havent, or you have no idea how genres work

like the other guy said, go back to your containment board. havent visited here in a bit but this has been a pretty good thread for recs and theres been a decent amount of discussion. leave

bunnymen had five great albums in a row
cure only had 4

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>say something completely irrelevant to their music, and even more irrelevant to the context of the discussion
>get mad when people point out how dumb it
is

seriously, when did this board have such a huge influx of completely sensitive hormonal people? it was never this bad.
>using the * meme on anything
back to /pol/ with you.

>they're not post-punk
what the fuck does that have to do with anything. do you even know what post-punk means? way to out yourself again as not knowing enough about the music you're talking about.

>leave
yikes and oof.

>back to /pol/ with you.
You can go back to www.reddit.com

lmaoo youre the one who got your little feelings hurt when i mentioned that their fans are wh*te as fuck cuz it struck a chord with your little cracker ass

>what the fuck does that have to do with anything
not surprised your dumb ass doesnt know how to read bc thats clearly what i was talking about when i was replying to the other user

god i hate people like you lol once again please just leave

Lol stfu /pol/

I am a Cure fan and you're a gigantic retard

>what i was talking about with the other user
you mean when you said that they were purely jangle-pop and got proven completely wrong?
try to keep up.
>"cracker ass, white boi, dumbass leave REEEEEEEE"

you sound a lot more upset than i am.
i thought you were just from /pol/ but you have some other weird issues. don't get so worked up, you'll burn a calorie.

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Can't stand Morrissey, both vocally and lyrically. So Cure all the way for me.

Should mention Marr is great though, particularly when he gets away from Morrissey, like in pic related.

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Who the fuck cares?

give or take 30 people apparently

>posts anime garbage
AHAHAHAHAHAH
ofc this wh*te boy fetishizes japanese shit

i literally said that they had a handful of songs not jangle pop but other than that theyre entirely jangle pop and you go

>u got proven completely wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!
lmao what you just spewed that im a retard when clearly you dont know how to read

never really got the crazy praise about morrisey's lyricism desu, i understand a lot of it is sarcastic but i dont think its as amazing as people
marr is a goat tho, arguably carried the smiths on his shoulders singlehandedly

What the fuck is up with this weird feud? Can't you like both bands?

The Smiths fans - Intelligent unloved quiet straight white men who are cuter than they think, obese hispanic/mestizo women, and white gay/lesbian/bi men and women. Dress nicely, and have high paying jobs or "worthy" type work, like librarians. For the most part aloof, but have a strong sense of yearning, and becoming something better.

Cure fans - All races, morbidly obese or morbidly skinny, wear lots of makeup and sloppy black clothes. Transgenders make up the majority of their LGBTQ fans. Most are autistic. Work low skilled, low paying jobs. Very emotional. Complete nihilists.

>more REEEEEING
>getting this upset about japanese shit on a japanese inspired website.

what a lame fuck you've outed yourself as.
illiterate too it seems.
i'm not white btw, and just LOL @ not even understanding morrissey's lyricism either, man you just keep digging yourself into a bigger hole.

THIS ALL OF THIS.

ik ur trying 2 make the cure fans look bad but desu they sound based

what filler tracks does the debut have

What filler does Faith, Wish Seconds have

The front men disliked each other
That's literally it
It's Oasis vs Blur or Beatles vs Stones all over again

according to average scaruffi scores:
smiths=jamc>cure>bunnymen
if we're just doing 80s albums then:
jamc>smiths>cure>bunnymen

to add to this:
jamc had one 7 and one 7.5 in the 80s
cure had two 7s in the 80s
smiths had two 7s in the 80s
bunnymen had two 7s in the 80s
meat is murder, bunnymen s/t, and head on the door all got 5s

jamc and smiths got one 6 each
cure got 3 6s and one 6.5
bunnymen got 3 6s

Morrissey solo is underrated desu

>everything from 2 minute pop perfection to near-prog virtuosity
jesus man, how can you accuse us cure fans of 'coping' when this whole post is flushed red with "b-b-but morrissey!" if you were musically literate you'd be able to break the examples you've given down (and would also know why its so retarded to call the smiths "prog virtuosos"). but no, its easier to just gesture at them and hope your shit sticks.

>DON'T LET YOUR LIFE BE THE BUTT OF A JOOoooOOOOOOOOKE

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that's the alcohol and drugs fault

who chose to take those drugs? who chose to drink that alcohol?

yer mam after realising her unborn son was going to have severe autism

the correct answer was robert smith actually

Joy Division is better than both /thread

Nah

They had no gimmicks or faggy shit about them. DIY at its core

doesn't mean they're good.

Okay, so which fanbase is worse? Smiths fans or Radiohead fans?

Ian Curtis has one of the worst voices in rock music. The Cure, JAMC and even The Smiths are way better.

nirvana fans

radiohead obviously

Ian Curtis was lyrically superior to any lyricist of his era. He put power behind his voice and while I like every band mentioned in this thread, Joy Division was just more original and more punk/DIY than any other band.

JD and New Order contributed more to the evolution of music moreso than band mentioned (can’t even argue), but The Cure we’re indeed expansive and wide ranged in their overall musical influence as well.

And pay some fucking respect to Curtis on his anniversary suicide day

F

Ian Curtis sounds like a passively aggressive rambling hobo most of the time. It doesn't matter how much "power" he put behind his voice if it still sounds like shit.

Seriously fag? Like all the bands whose dick you suck are such amazing vocalists. That’s just one component of the band anyways and just another instrument to the music. Curtis’s bocal style perfectly suited JD just as Bernard’s perfectly suited New Order.

If you ain’t shilling Karen Carpenter then shut the fuck up cuz everyone’s voice was shit compared to hers.

>There are actually people who argue about anybody being a worse vocalist than Morrissey
The absolute state of Smithstards

>And pay some fucking respect to Curtis on his anniversary suicide day
don't tell me what to do

People talking shit on Ian Curtis are people who are only capable of having an authentic conversation by being contrary to every commonly held opinion. They will argue against anything to get attention.

BOOM!
BOOOOOM!!
BooooOOOOOOM!!!
MOOOOOOORNING STAAAAAAAAAAAAAARSHIP!!!

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>Joy Division was just more original and more punk/DIY than any other band.

lol nah

>If you ain’t shilling Karen Carpenter
Are you a tranny? Honest question.

Based, Curtis was one of a kind.

Hahahah yea cuz liking the Carpenters is more tranny than liking the Smiths or the Cure....yea ok chief

It is, by your own admission of guilt.

>uses the t-slur
>gaslights people
So when are you planning your suicide?

Do you think I'm a tranny?

The Pastels > JAMC

You sure act like a faggot tranny, but are far worse. You give the entire sub human species a bad name. Sad.

>If you ain’t shilling Karen Carpenter then shut the fuck up cuz everyone’s voice was shit compared to hers.
Only a faggot tranny would hold such a shitty opinion like this. Fuck off back to RYM before I rape your boi pucci.

You sure sound mad onions boy. I hope you don’t cry and ruin all that cure makeup you got on. Just remember faggot that “boys don’t cry.”