Stop killing babies

Also that looks like an 8 month old fetus, it ain't getting aborted unless it's going to kill itself or the mother. You take that right away then ur not pro life

rape is a thing

>This is your body
>this is the body of someone else

Irrelevant.

Its illegal to forcibly take blood from someone - Even if someone is dying from blood loss right there beside them. Its illegal to take a kidney from someone. or bone marrow. and so on.In fact, its illegal to use any part of another person's body AFTER DEATH, without their written consent. It is illegal to coerce someone to do any action for "the body of someone else" without their consent.

forcing a woman to carry a baby they do not consent to have means that a literal corpse would have more rights than the living woman.

If you think that a government should have the right to mandate that you get picked up off the street and a kidney and a pint of blood pulled out of you, because you're a match for someone who requires one, go right ahead and support that view, and be anti-abortion too. but may I suggest converting to islam and moving to china and becoming one of the Uighurs, as you'll get to live out that reality there.

If you think "fuck no, they're not taking MY kidney" then perhaps you should get the fuck out of telling women what they should do with their uterus, without consent.

Notice I said willingly retard read the fucking post first

k, seems fair. enjoy your time in prison being Jeromes ass bitch I guess

Oh boo fucking hoo. I know you jerk off to tranny porn at leat 5 times a day, in total you waste around 1 billion + potential lives. If the woman has an abortion she can get pregnant again after 2 weeks on average. The fetus has no say in it and canæt decide, it has no personhood so it never had a "life"

Shut up Ivan. At least it is in her body and not in the middle of the street where you kill them.

the someone else does not have a right to the mothers body, except by the mothers consent.
you cannot be forced to give blood for another, even your own children
you cannot be forced to give organs for another, even your own children
you cannot be forced to do these things even in death, as your will overrides the need for your blood or organs, even for your own children.
this is no different. I do not deny that a fetus is a potential life, but I do deny its rights abridge that of the mother.
are you faggots that can't shoot nut straight going to stop getting in-vitro, as they toss a bunch of extra fetuses each time the plant one?
>but but but it doesn't count for us
the only consistent republican philosophy is being angry that anyone else exists

Let nature run its course.

for a supposedly secular nation, you guys sure do like mixing your religion with your politics

>Develops tanks to the mother

eh? not even sure what thats meant to be.

>Has to be separeted with tools after birth

not really, you could bite it off

>If my gf got an abortion
/pol/tard schizos don't have girlfriends.

Nice job slinking your way past the argument faggot. It’s not “potential” lives that are lost in an abortion. It is a life. The second that neurons in their brain start going, they’re alive. How fast a woman can get pregnant again has nothing to do with it.

"but MY religion doesn't count..."

I mean in each case you presented it was about taking away a physical part of someone without their consent, if you want to peddle your cause at least keep it straight

Legalizing abortion reduces abortion rates, schizo

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“Pro-life” fags havin a normal one

You seem confused. This is not Facebook or Twitter. You should go back there.

>Republican want America to be like Africa

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That is pro life. Killing a murderous whore saves lives

when did Yea Forums become infested with christfags? surely you guys are damned just by visiting this shithole?

babies are kinda lame

Correlation is not causation, retard.

how very sharia of you

Thanks?

A fetus is as alive as a skin cell. Simply being alive doen't give someone the right to use someone esle's body without permission, you need to also consider personhood and ,legally, personhood starts after birth

Lord Jesus forgive him because he’s just trying to be edgy

>Attached to central banks
>Feeds off the common man
>Has to be seperated with ghettos and camps
>Not even human
It's not her body. It's a fucking parasite!

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I understand this argument but I find it unpersuasive, considering that the analogy to abortion for a child who needs an organ or blood would be to kill the child actively.

Or conversely, women would be in their rights to withhold nutrients to the fetus without explicitly taking action to kill it, which is of course not actually possible.

nbcnews.com/health/health-care/abortion-rates-go-down-when-countries-make-it-legal-report-n858476
amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/sexual-and-reproductive-rights/abortion-facts/
guttmacher.org/perspectives50/abortion-and-after-legalization
But you guys have been trained to reject fact, science and logic, do you?

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Nice strawman, faggot.

>republicans are the africans of the american race
that should go over well

if you ban it, you force it underground. more women will die from complications from the dr.deletus wannabes that spring up, more women will an hero

God approved of abortion and often suggested or demanded it. Why do White flabby old Christian men hate women? Is it a Gay thing?

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How can pro-choice people say so assuredly that unborn fetuses don't *want* to be killed, hmm?

the bible also forbids wanking but you all do it

>Killing a murderous whore saves lives

Killing anybody that holds this view WOULD save lives.

And, why would we want to "save lives" anyway, there are already to many whack jobs and retards in the world already - just look at you for example.

America is way worse than Africa

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yeah, we're rebels - suck it church boi

Better post this.

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because god says so

Having functioning brain cells and neurons is what differentiates it. A skin fell, or any other cell, doesn’t have that. Want to end it before the 5th week before it can think? Go for it, I don’t care. It can’t think it isn’t alive.

But past that, it’s alive. If you have sex willingly, and you get pregnant, you give the child the right to use your body. Say I accidentally stab someone in the chest. Complete accident, didn’t mean to. But I was playing around with a knife. I’m still responsible for that person being stabbed, aren’t I? If I don’t render aid to that person, and I just say “fuck it”, and walk off, should I not be held accountable? I knowingly put another living, thinking human being in a position where they cannot maintain their life without me and my physical assistance. The same applies to a pregnancy once it is able to think.

It actually does not for gentiles

>Republicans wants a thing that will be useless, will hurt people AND make America worse to get more votes
Well, news at eleven, I guess

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Its not a view its reality

Imagine joining a movement meant to slaughter low income black people just because you're too stupid to know what tf you're doing and just trust whoever tf tells you they're the "good guys" without a second thought.

Like literally every other movement the left has. Honest to god, I used to think rednecks were retarded but "educated" lefties are definitely the intellectual barrel scrapes of the human race.

The left doesn't actually have any ideas to improve society. they just oppose whatever the right is in favor of

You can see the sufferings in his eyes

think "firearms" is your clue there. If it was "death by flaming tire" or "death by public beating" and "death for being gay" I'm pretty sure central African nations would be leading the world

>I mean in each case you presented it was about taking away a physical part of someone without their consent, i

Each is making a change to the body without consent. You also cant add to a body, by tattooing someone, say, or make a change to a body, like a scar.

and for 9 months, that foetus is taking nutrients, blood and energy from the woman. It is also forcibly changing her body - causing her hips to move apart, making ligaments looser and more prone to damage, making breasts swell, and making her nauseous, blood pressure changes etc which can lead to death.

So yes, they are exactly the same.
The woman who does not consent to that pregnancy is no different to the person who does not consent to having blood taken, or getting a tattoo, or the likes. .

And if you want bodily change that takes absolutely nothing away, It is also illegal to perform a vasectomy on a man without his consent. and lets face it, testicles are the cause of 99.99999999999% of pregnancies outside of Nazareth... should we mandate vasectomies for all males of 16 and over mandatory until such a time as they're capable of supporting a baby with the prospective mother?

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"Its just a clump of cells"

Only thing worse than not knowing, is being adamant about the truth of a lie. Yeah, fuck the left. They are worthless.

every law in the bible is for jews. gentiles don't have to do anything!

What type of abortion is that? Because the two types of abortion, medical and surgical, don't do this, one is with a pill and the other is with a suction tube. This has to be some form of either illegal abortion or the fetus/mother is sick

>t. Never read anything that isn't printed hentai

A mother of a born child is not required to give blood or organs, true.
However, should a mother actively kill that born child, that's a crime

To apply those same rights and constraints for a mother during pregnancy, the mother would be unable to actively kill her child (either through abortion or forced miscarriage) but could will her body to stop providing it nutrients through inaction. Which is pretty much impossible.

>or the fetus/mother is sick
I think that might be it. Also, a suction tube might be the thing that they use at the end of the video.

Look at the flick of the wrist

A fetus does not become human, it either is human (because it was formed by a human egg cell and human sperm cell), or it isn’t.

The only reason there is some limited confusion about this is because anti-choice people pretend that pro-choice people believe a fetus isn’t human, and then attack them over this obviously stupid idea. This is known as a Straw Man argument, where you try to shut up your opponent by creating a false argument, claim that’s what your opponent thinks or means, and attack it. It’s basically cheating because you can’t win the discussion honestly.

The reason anti-choice people need to use such false arguments is because their real argument is that an unborn baby is more important and has more rights than the woman carrying it: they are trying to claim that one type of human is more important than another type of human.

And since they know quite well that argument wouldn’t get them anywhere, they try to cover it up in lies and fake claims about their opponents. Like saying pro-choice people believe a fetus isn’t human.

if you're going to start claiming the rules of the old testament are jew-only, all that gay-hating shit goes out the window, too.
you guys don't have well considered philosophy, just gut feelings of shit you're mad about.

>OMG IT LOOKA LIKE A BABEE
lol don't care

Must be, but it still has to be when the fetus/mother is sick because those tools aren't used in a regular surgical abortion

>they are trying to claim that one type of human is more important than another type of human
that's the core of republican conservatism, though.

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They should have practiced safe sex. Murdering your child just because it's inconvenient for you isn't cool. Accountability is kryptonite to a woman. Close your legs and stay away from the dudes who are gonna pump and dump you.

Africa you say?

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Not a doctor, but I think (from reading about that vid before) that's an ectopic pregnancy, where the foetus is implanted in one of the fallopian tubes, instead of the uterus.
If left there, the fallopian tube would rupture, killing the mother.

But that person didn't consent to you being near them when playing with the knife or being stabbed. This is a complete strawman of what i've been saying. This isn't the equivalent of unwantd pregnancy unless you agree that someone who gets a woman pregnant without consent should take full on responsibility, if not then ur not pro life, ur just anti choice

>an unborn baby is more important and has more rights than the woman carrying it
More accurately their rights stalemate in such a way that require carrying to term, short of medical necessity to abort.

I didn't claim that. I said a claim made was incorrect, then you couldn't comprehend the different and made this post , which has no value.

Ah, so, you want to get laid that's fine. if women get laid, they should be punished.

I guess you're another of the angry incel brigade?

Your image is on point. You shouldnt be required to allow someone else to invade your body.

Killing body, not the spirit, because fetuses don't have spirit.

This such a stupid argument, it's the equivalent of those that say "well she was dressing that way so she was asking for it" none of these arguments address the outrage that such advice sparks in people, including me. If someone gets robbed because he was careless with home security (unlocked door, open window, etc.) he gets sympathy and perhaps mild criticism at his carelessness. But nobody ever says that the guy who forgot to lock his door wanted people to take his belongings. When you tell a woman that closing her legs will help prevent rape you're basically also saying that simply being sexually active invites rape. I didn't use the word "invite" by accident: that's exactly what you're saying. You've gone beyond the abhorrent "blame the victim" mentality (e.g., "it's her fault because she was walking in that alley late at night") and went on to arguing that a sexually active woman wants to be raped and that since rape by definition involves lack of consent that a sexually active woman automatically consents to sexual assault, that she's surrendered her right to say no and and in fact isn't actually a human being, but merely an inanimate fucktoy. You've denied her inherent humanity and that pisses me off big time.

It's 50% her body.

knew it was something similar to that, just had forgotten the word. Thanks user

the bible forbids casting seed upon the ground
where does it say "unless you're a gentile"?

Hmm...
50% of her code (DNA), sure...
100% of her nutrients that she provides.

A mother also provides a child's food post-birth, whether breast milk or formula, and yet we would charge someone with murder who intentionally starved their child.