Why are they called transgenders if they want to change their sex organs, features, and hormones?

Why are they called transgenders if they want to change their sex organs, features, and hormones?

Why don't they use transsexual anymore?

Why are they trying to remove it from being a mental disorder? If it causes you mental stress and impairment, and there is nothing wrong with your body aside from your dysphoria, why wouldn't it be diagnosed as a disorder?


Looking for genuine arguments and reasons here

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because theres an agenda to be run.

What do they gain, other than outrage?

Trannies are just incels in dresses and makeup.
The can't get women to touch their peepees, so they try to fool other men into doing it.
Same rage, same need to be the center of attention, same unjustifiably high opinion of themselves, etc.
It all makes sense in context.

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You go back to your place after a date.
Date gets naked.
See this.
What do?

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What about the kids that do it?

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acceptance in the form of shoving down peoples throats. just like the 80's popper patrol groups

They've been groomed.

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Brainwashed by groomers

Promising chart

America has had enough of the groomers' horse shit.
We're putting faggots back into their closets, where they belong.
Never to be released again.

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Nice stomachdick

It would sure be cool if it passed, but I doubt that. Taking rights away isn't really a US' thing.

We're coming for you faggot pedos.
You had equal rights (which is fair), but you also wanted to have everyone's attention.
Now you have it.
Enjoy :)

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kill yourselves, attention-seeking, grooming tranny fucking faggots. we aren't stupid we know it's you trannies making these fucking threads, no one would ever organically talk about trannies. ywnbaw kys immediately

God I love laughing at these retarded abominations.

DESANTIS 2024
Trump was amusing, but DeSantis gets stuff done.

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Proper based

schools are full of dirty old groomers

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Manlet

Didn't Trump do somthing like that federally if not he definitely should in 2024 and didn't he ban troons from the military

Disney shareholder value down $50 billion, and dropping.
America has spoken.

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LETS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>arts teacher
that makes sense

Back in the closet, faggots.

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It's not just art teachers.

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Genuinely shuddered from that, thanks

Now how many of there are faggots, pretty sure the ratio of grooming per person would be way above that of a straight person.

All of them should face the wall and have their skulls crack open just like an egg

>Why are they called transgenders if they want to change their sex organs, features, and hormones?
Because all trans people change their gender. Only some go on to change their sex organs so they look more like the sex usually correlated with their gender. There are also cis people who change their sex organs to look like the other sex, without changing their gender (femboys on estrogen with butt implants, and women with breast reduction surgery) Are these people trans sexuals too?

>Why don't they use transsexual anymore?
Because that would also include the cis people mentioned above

>If it causes you mental stress and impairment,
Being trans doesn't cause mental stress. Social isolation, rejection, etc etc does. Some trans people have gender dysphoria, which by itself does cause mental stress, but most trans people don't have dysphoria. Dysphoria is classified as a mental disorder, being trans isn't.

>Looking for genuine arguments and reasons here
Hope you found them here. I can try to clarify any other questions regarding trans people you have as well.

Really really helpful man. Thanks a million

Read
I'll take facts don't over your feelings.

>surgery is icky
>therefore anyone who gets surgery is icky
Absolute state of conservatives. If they're still fucking healing from their surgery, why the fuck would they let themselves be invited to fuck. I wouldn't let someone peg me if I'm recovering from hernia surgery.

Kids can be trans too, just like kids can be gay. Social transition has been unanimously accepted as the way to reduce depression and suicide rates among trans kids by all reputed scientific, biological, psychological, psychiatric and medical institutions and professionals. Puberty blockers, which have been used to treat certain conditions in both cis and trans kids for decades, and are understood to be easily reversible and with 0 negative effects, are also unanimously accepted as the way to reduce suicide rates and depression in trans kids (And adults if they got them when they were kids).

Why are conservatives obsessed with the idea of people shoving things down their throats without their consent?

Thanks for diluting the word "groomer" making it easier for real groomers to get away with it retards. You're doing the same thing you were reeing about when in 2016
>hurrr muh leftists call everyone nazis
>hurrr let's call everyone we disagree with (including every reputed scientific, psychological, psychiatric, medical and biological institution and professional) groomers!!!

they get legal humans to work on like dr frankstein

No, the teacher shit is absolutely grooming

>I'll take facts don't over your feelings.
Shows me for changing my mind on what type half way through typing "facts don't care about your feelings"

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True and whoever that is is reprehensible and should be put in prison for life at the very least.

Checked. No problem user. I actually do think it's a good idea to use transexual for people who change their sex organs to look like another sex, for both cis people and trans people who do this. The venn diagram of transexuals and transgenders will then be intersecting but not overlapping circles.

So you're saying 60% of child predators are straight? Sounds like straight people are the problem then

>he took indigenous anti-racist calculus instead of the real thing

They are sick, demented disgusting fucking creatures. We must exterminate them, to the last. Give them a slow, painful death like they deserve and send them to the depths of hell, where they belong.
If killing trannies is god's work
And Hating them a religion - call me pope fucking Francis.

Death to all trannies!

Of course I give it the slow painful death it deserve.
These disgusting creatures belong in hell burning for all eternity, not here among us.

Death to all trannies!

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Facts don't care about your feelings.

>source
>family research institute
>The Family Research Institute (FRI), originally known as the Institute for the Scientific Investigation of Sexuality (ISIS), is an American socially conservative non-profit organization based in Colorado Springs, Colorado which states that it has "...one overriding mission: to generate empirical research on issues that threaten the traditional family, particularly homosexuality, AIDS, sexual social policy, and drug abuse".[2]
Kek.

Also, i haven't read this particular study (I will when I have time) but pretty much every study until the 80s at least (and maybe even in the 90s, and this study references several 80s and 90s studies, which are considered outdated at the point) classified pedophiles into their sexual orientations on the basis of the gender of the child they abused. If a pedo abused a girl and they were a man, they were heterosexual. The reason why there seem to be a disproportionate number of pedo homosexuals compared to pedo heterosexuals, is because, pedophilia seems to only concern itself with the age of the who you are attracted to, not the gender, which makes sense, because boys and girls are not very different from each other appearance wise, when they're young. It would therefore be perfectly plausible that the proportions was evenly split between people who abused same gender kids and those to who abused opposite gender kids and those who abused both.

If you haven't seen cis women who look like that, stop jerking off to pornstars 24/7, go down to your local walmart, and buy your frozen tendies yourself for once. Some people just look ugly.

because you can change your gender but not your sex

I haven't seen walmarts in this country and I have no idea what "tendies" are
anyway ywnbaw

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nope, they are synonymous (unless you favor the definitions coined by the sadistic pedophile John Money)

>I haven't seen walmarts in this country and I have no idea what "tendies" are
Makes sense that you'd be culturally illiterate.

>anyway ywnbaw
And they say the left can't meme. Kek.

What do you call what your chromosomes determine then?

>nope, they are synonymous
Effort post explanation pasta, made by myself a few weeks ago:

Sex is a collection of various attributes determined moments after conception. Your chromosomes, sex organs, hormones, etc are seen together and you're placed into a sex based on what they are. But you can be born with female sex organs and male chromosomes and vice versa, without knowing at all, until you get a blood test. Because these various attributes that contribute to sex are only largely correlated, not intrinsically tied to each other. This is why biologists say sex is bimodal, not binary.

Gender is also correlated to sex, but not intrinsically linked. Gender is a collection of social attributes, like sex is physical/genetic attributes. Gender includes what clothes you wear, what professions you do, how you style your hair, your intonation when you speak, etc. In the past, certain collections of clothes, professions, hairstyles, intonations, etc were seen as female, and certain were seen as male. Therefore, you could say a woman is anyone who dresses like this, just like you could say, a female is anyone with a vagina. You can't do that anymore because the gender roles for both men and women have expanded so much that they include all social roles for all humans. Men can present masculine (chads) or feminine (femboys) and same with women. Therefore, since there is no social distinction between man attributes and woman attributes, all that differentiates them is identification.

We can't say a woman is anyone who wears a skirt, just like we can't say a female is anyone with a vagina. Because women can wear pants and people with vaginas can have xy chromosomes. All that seperates the genders now is identification.

Therefore, a man is anyone who identifies as one, and a woman is anyone who identifies as one.

to be cont.

your sex chromosomes determine your sex/gender (these terms are synonymous)

didn't read a word of it, ywnbaw

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cont.

Being a trans woman, doesn't change your sex, just your gender... which is just your social role... similar to a profession. You can change certain attributes of your sex, like sex organs, to align more with the sex that's more correlated with your gender, but you can't change your whole sex, you can't change chromosomes. No one says trans people are changing chromosomes. They are fully in line with scientific consensus and conservatives who say trans people reject biology don't know what they're talking about.

>sadistic pedophile John Money)
Give me one trans affirming study that cites money anywhere, or even mentions him. Name one reputed scientific, medical, biological, psychological or psychiatric institution or professional who has not discredited him.

You hide behind money because you can't face the decades of research that affirms trans people, that have nothing to do with him. If you have an issue with a study that has nothing to do with money, you should be able to express it without name dropping money, let alone have name dropping money be your entire argument.

It's your god given right to keep being a retard.

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fuck john money and fuck you too

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there is a difference between full time trans women and part time cross dressers

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the only difference is intention, the outward end result is the same

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crossdressers dont take hormones though

HRT or not it's still always a male in a dress/wig/etc.

>the only difference is intention
Yes, although
>the only difference is identification, would be more accurate.

>the outward end result is the same
No, there is a difference between cis people who crossdress and trans people who do (or don't) cross dress, namely, their gender which is different.
Read
for elaboration.