Only facists ban books

Only facists ban books

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Only conservitard brains can contain such massive dissonance as "we're the free speech party" and "burn all the books I don't like!".

they really are absolute garbage people

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Texas republicans are literally burning books.

God how I wish that Zio-cuck were actually a real fascist.....

He didn't ban anything. You can still get them. But if you start bringing up social justice or fag/tranny bullshit in the middle of a math book, then it's not going to be used in school. If mom and dad want to teach that bullshit to the kids, their shitty parents can fork over the cash to buy the book/spend the time to teach them that stupidity.

Stick with "train left st. louis going east at 150 mph, an hour later, a train left Albuquerque going 120 miles per hour. How long will it take.." story problems.

Christ, the left keeps saying that the right lies, but the left just paints their subjective opinions as immutable truth.

Implying fascism doesn't exist in both major parties.

only morons can't spell fascist

What about Marx' book Capital?

you should look at the examples that actually got banned. it's really fucking lunatic, even for triggered incels like you.

Eh, the books they are banning were using critical race applied practice and that is technically government indoctrination of a specific ideology.
By the same token I wouldn't want far right applied practice in school books and would support banning that.

and yet another. Social and emotional agency? that sounds just like what every kid should be taught by the hippy dippy teacher. Collaborative, Academic, Social and Emotional Leaning? Maybe stick to fucking Academic and leave the rest for parents and just growing up instead. ffs how long do you have to stretch every day to twist your arguments to suit your fucking agenda?

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Ur behind the times. Shamefur dispray.

Real Authoritarians don't ban books, they rewrite and subvert them.

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OH MY GOD EMPATHY!
THEY ARE BRAINWASHING OUR YOUTH TO BE DECENT HUMANS

this is how conservatives apparently actually think

Show a quote from any politician on the right saying "rape victims must give birth", and maybe I'd believe you. The right is fucking retarded for wanting to ban abortion considering the bible is pro choice, but the left is equally retarded for trying to shoehorn in racial lessons into a math textbook. You're both mirrored versions of each other, just your religions are different. The end result of all your policies are the same.

>Anyone who plays the "my side gud urs bad" game is a fucking brainlet

Empathy is fine, but if you teach kids that some of them are inherently oppressed the others and that those others have to accept that designation and empathize with their "victims", you've just created a power differential where one group can dominate the other with accusations of racism.

So, they are teaching kids not to be assholes? That actually caring about people is ok?
Yes, I can see why you desperate incels are SO triggered

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Uh huh. So it should only be things that YOU approve of? Your message? So empathy, love, social agency, etc? The lefts message?

But fuck the right, yeah? I mean, mention it, but say "oh it's wrong". 'Their ideals aren't correct."? Or would you let them put, in that same book, some math concepts such as the predominant amount of thefts, murders and violent crimes being performed by minorities?

Or would that get in the way of YOUR message? YOU get the floor, and anyone who disagrees can fuck off It's YOUR way or nothing else.

Now who sounds like a fucking fascist?

>considering the bible is pro choice
Not a christian, but source?

The agents are out in full force today I see.

Fun fact: the only people that are enraged by the discussion of racism are racists

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>What? You want a math book to teach math and leave politics to parents? Wow you have no empathy"

Not that user, and actually I lean left most times, but you're a fucking retard. I fucking hate brainwashing retards of all stripes. Religious schools should be illegal, and pushing political rhetoric on CHILDREN should also be illegal. Fuck people like you for being so fucking dense and stuck so far up your own asses that you do the exact same thing as the other side and then point the finger and howl that they're the real bad guys, while thinking you have any moral high ground. You partisan fucks have no morals except for "fuck you got mine"

Are facists people who are bigoted against faces?

Amen. Forever and ever.

We're all part of the same hypocrisy it would seem.

>pushing political rhetoric on CHILDREN should also be illegal.
Fun fact: "don't be a racist asshole" is NOT political rethoric but common human decency

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Is that some attempt at an own or gotcha?
I'm not a racist, nor am I enraged by the discussion about racism.
What I don't like is racist ideologies like critical race theory. All humans are capable of racism and they're all equally wrong if they act on it.

Again, the core argument of OP is that books are being banned. They're not. Books with social justice messages are simply not being allowed in taxpayer funded public schools, the same way we wouldn't allow religious doctrine to be taught.

Separation between Church and State. Separation between Social Justice and State. Save it for the protest, hippy.

Fun fact: teaching children that one group of people is responsible for all of society’s ails because of the color of their skin is racist.

>don't be a racist asshole
Sure that isn't political rhetoric.
>don't be a racist asshole like those white people
Now that is political rhetoric and it is what critical race theory does.

The Bible gives directions on how to perform abortions and gives cases of when a mother or father should induce one. At work right now so I don't have the quote on me

Huh neat, I wonder what the practicing Christian reply to it is.

Woah wtf guys I just learned that Mein Kampf isn’t being taught in kindergarten classes??! Why are the heckin’ liberinos banning books???

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Yeah, only that's not what happens. Teaching kids some of thrm have inherited wealth and some does not because an history of slavery, jim crow laws and deliberate political decisions is history and not racism, Billybob

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Mein Kampf was rewritten where jew was replaced with men and got accepted as good feminist science in a science journal.

>Teaching kids some of thrm have inherited wealth and some does not because an history of slavery, jim crow laws and deliberate political decisions is history and not racism, Billybob
Sure it is, you're telling some kids that they are better off than other kids and share blame in a past they didn't take part in.
That's racist.

>Teaching kids we can and should be decent humans and improve society by acknowledging its faults IS BAD AND SHOULD BE BANNED
This is your brain on Trump

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Irreparable damage, mein kampf
My book "throw gays in the ocean so sharks get aids" has been banned

Say gays are bad or something and lose your job (you are)

user, that is you saying a specific racial group is uniformly to blame for racism.
That is wrong.

But that's not what happens because
A- CRT is a university-degree topic
B- at best you are teaching kids that some of them are born better off because of historical facts that are unjust, and that we should act to adress that injustice

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Again, hyperbole. Nobody is banning it. It should be taught by parents/peer groups. It's not up to the school, any more than it's up to the public school to teach christian/jewish/islamic/hindu principles.

Anything short of compliance with the adherence to "The Message" is the lefts definition of Banning, the same as christians saying that not allowing prayer in school is them being oppressed. In both cases it isn't the case.

But because it's something YOU believe in, it seems totally reasonable to you, the same way it that lunacy seems reasonable to a christian.

In the end, you're both really awful fucking people.

You're such a fucking simpleton it's painful. You're just like a fucking religious nutjob saying "teaching kids morality through the Bible is not political or religious rhetoric. We're just teaching common decency" you fucking imbecile.

> a specific racial group is uniformly to blame for racism
Yeph. Racists. That are bad. Look, it's THAT simple :
- Racist = bad
- Non-racist = ok

CRT asserts that the racists are white people though, all of them.

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>CRT is a university-degree topic
Which is why they do it through critical race applied practice, where examples in the curriculum just assumes that CRT is correct in its assertions.
> at best you are teaching kids that some of them are born better off because of historical facts that are unjust, and that we should act to adress that injustice
Those historical facts are being used to claim that current day people are still to blame for said facts instead of relegating the blame to the historical people who did them.

Speaking honestly, it's not that anyones denying there's racism or that america had slavery in its past, or that the civil war was about slavery, etc. The major issue is that nobody worth a damn gives a shit.

I mean, look at John Olivers end piece from yesterday about environmental racism. Nobody is denying it, really. It's just pure economics. People are going to dump trash and other toxic shit where black people live, and they're not going to use good land to build an economically advantaged community. But it has to go SOMEWHERE, so go to the people who have less power. The poor. The blacks. Mexicans etc. They can have a big protest and black momma can wail and cry about how her bebby gots da cancer, but in the end, nobody cares. Not even the lefties. You look at environmental groups and they'll fight tooth and nail for global warming, saving the whales, oil spills etc. But nobody even knows or care's about black people living in areas with 2500% more lead than is generally humanly acceptable.

And they're not going to ever do it. To give them a good area would be like putting pearls on a swine. The place would be a graffiti/crime filled wasteland in less than a year. It would be a waste.

Until black and hispanic people start getting their shit together? Until trannies start getting psychological help? Until the fags start becoming less whiney and preachy? Until women stop being nagging, lecturing cunts? Nobody is going to give a single fuck about any of them.

Go read up on it, it claims that all white people gained from racist laws and from slavery, even the ones who didn't have slaver ancestors.

"don't be racist", "don't threat others like they are inferior", "threat others with respect" are not religious priciples, kid

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It would be far more sustainable to wipe your arse with them...

Burning stuff isn't good for the climate and BLM/Antifa used up all the setting fire to shit allowance

current day people aren't exactly blameless

No. It’s the most bland and easy to understand concept in the world but conservative voices have seized on it and distorted what it is in order to stir up anger.

The left lied about this, got obliterated, and now doubles down on the lies
More people driven to the right
A win for the people

Which ones of them though?
How do you ascertain which people are still to blame?

You can still buy and read them. You just can't read your gay erotica to children without their parents knowing

I mean, I'm an atheist through and through, but at least in the book of john, those are religious principles. Not so much in Paul, but that's old testament jewish shit. Jesus was the hippy that taught love respect and equality.

its math not empathy, nigger

>It’s the most bland and easy to understand concept in the world
Give me your take on it then.

Fake and gay. Typical lefty

You've heard it on Fox news so you know it's true, right?
>poor people shouldn't be born poor!

Except CRT and it's adherents assert that only white people can be racists and that all white people are racist. They are putting guilt on children who had no say in the race they were born into. And even if they weren't doing it deliberately (which they are) the children being taught this do not have the intelligence/emotional intelligence to not internalize that shit. Fuck, kids blame themselves when their parents get a divorce even though they had nothing to do with it. You think kids won't grow up feeling guilty that they're white?

Plus, that whole idea is fucking racist anyway. I don't want people who are born japanese to feel guilt over the massacres of Chinese people from 100 years ago, it's not fucking fair to blame someone for being born.

Your example is nothing like reality.
Meanwhile, a gay male teacher cannot even say “my husband and I” in class anymore.

No it's not empathy. It's your leftist view of the world

I don’t want the public school system to teach about trains or Albuquerque. Obey my demand to change the book to suit me!

Of course they don’t literally say “rape victims must give birth” but their actions have exactly that effect. They don’t need to explicitly say it and nobody claimed they did….

Again, hyperbole. They're teaching left-leaning values. Those are best taught by family or peer groups, not by a taxpayer funded public schools. They should stick to the facts. Who, what, why, when, where. Leave the moralizing out of it.

so can I teach about how women have smaller brains and that black people have lower IQs or no since you're suddenly pro free speech?

Yeah except they are religious principals, in almost all of them. So clearly right wing nutjobs should be able to put Bible stories in fucking math books.
>" If Noah has 2 of every animal to put in the ark to save them from gods wrath, and 40 years to do it, how many animals per day will he have to load into the ark?"

>people are still to blame
This is where conservatives keep falling down - it's not about blame, but your ideology is ALL about blame - blame women, blame immigrants, blame socialists, blame taxes...blame anyone and anything except your own dumb ass for your miserable failure of a life.

The point is that the effects of the racism that was explicit in law and culture and is today still implicit have a measurable, quiantifiable effect. Ignoring that people today are still impacted by the systemic racism that was legalized within living memory is FUCKING RACISM.

Anyway, whatever. It's like arguing with pigeons, etc etc. Go watch nascar and blame the jewish space laser or whatever, you turnip.

Good

You don’t know what critical race theory is. It’s a series of academic papers taught at the college level. The content of those papers has never been taught in grade school. The right is using that term to now refer to all discussions about race in order to rile people up and it’s a categorically incorrect usage of the term.

It's worse. Since DeadSantis banned all discussions of "sexual orientation", straight people can't talk about being straight, since that too is a sexual orientation.
It's retarded, yes, but that's republicans for you

Yeah that's not true though. He can say "my husband and I" he just can't say "have you ever thought about sucking dick Timmy?"

Lol what a whiney ass retard

That’s a dumb person’s idea of a smart thing to say.

Sharing blame is where you’re wrong, that’s not being taught. They’re privileged, they’re not at fault. They should understand how history has privileged some groups and not others since it’s literally true. White people getting upset about this is absurd. You won’t even be able to teach about slavery in Florida in 10 years at this rate.

They literally cannot reference their gay relationship.

>You've heard it on Fox news so you know it's true, right?
I don't watch fox news.

>are still to blame for said facts instead of relegating the blame to the historical people who did them.
You mean the historical people of the '60s? Like, your dad?

How is it unlike reality? I mean, you're saying it and not providing any useful examples of a contrary opinion. And frankly, they shouldn't talk about his husband. And a female teacher shouldn't talk about their husband, or a male teacher talking about their wife.

Teachers have become far too chummy with their students. They become like surrogate parents. I know several teachers and many of them continue to have relationships online with their students long after they have grown up. Call it impersonal, but there should be a bit of separation between a student and a teacher. Almost like a boss and an employee. They're being paid to teach them and get them ready for higher education, not to outline morality or ethics. If they want to do that at a private school, where the parents are paying to be taught certain principles along with the curriculum, that's another issue entirely. But for a publicly funded public school, there needs to be certain separations, the same as we do with religious separations.

You saw that on CNN and tiktok so you assume it's true
>Pro tip, it's not. Go ahead, show documentation from the bill that say that. I'll wait
>Fuck I am embarrassed I voted on the same side as these retards.

Why'd they ban Genderqueer, then? Was it really because it had a censored cartoon sex image? The book was not assigned, and just existed at the school's library.

Again this is just your left leaning view of the world. Its reasonable for people to not want their kids taught that especially in a country that skews more right than most other western developed countries

My dad wasn't part of American culture in the 60's, he was growing up here in Denmark.

Tell it to The Ministry of Truth.

This

Find me any example of “fag/tranny shit” in a math book. That’s what’s unlike reality. You’re stoking fears of an exaggerated issue that doesn’t exist.

>they really are absolute garbage people
They are the true niggers of western society.

Classroom instruction by school personnel or third97
parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur98
in kindergarten through grade 3

Not that user but every time someone does post that same proof you claim it's not real, despite being backed up. So forgive me for not giving enough of a shit to do it again today for you.

>poor people shouldn't be born poor

That's their issue. Not everyone else. If you want to help them, then that's up to you as well. Nobody is under any obligations to assist.

Poverty has existed since the existence of money. It's not going to go away. Your star trek utopia isn't going to manifest. Unfairness, poverty, inequity, war, racism, etc? It's not going to ever go away. You can wish upon a star and blow on eyelashes and toss pennies into fountains all day, but it's not going to disappear. And even if it did, it would appear again eventually, because if there is one single immutable truth, it's that people are bastards, and it's easy to discount others. It would be a great thing if we didn't. But we do. And life goes on.

1/10 trolling, do better.
I mean, there are kids in school whose parents/grandpsrents weren't allowed to vote or buy an house because they were black

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So basically they’re being banned?

"Classroom instruction" you fucking retard. They can't TEACH about it. There's nothing preventing them from saying "my husband had to drop me off at work today" or some innocuous shit.

Different user here. I'm lazy, point out which of the blurry text images in the thread have been actually sourced for me, thanks

"Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

This means you can infringe based on the interpretation of the kids and parents by simply saying “I have a husband”, as a man.

>They become like surrogate parents
Kids spend 35 hours a week with them during their formative years.
>They're being paid to teach them and get them ready for higher education
A child's socialization is integral to their early education. They're not grinding math problems all day.

>I mean, there are kids in school whose parents/grandpsrents weren't allowed to vote or buy an house because they were black

good.

>We should NEVER try to improve society

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its a bit silly really. Books have nowhere near the cultural impact that they once had. People are far more influenced by youtoobers and podcasters.

If marks was alive today he'd be making histrionic youtobe videos, not writing fucking manifestos that nobody will read,

The obvious conclusion to this is to burn yootoobers to death in a primal public spectacle.

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>I mean, there are kids in school whose parents/grandpsrents weren't allowed to vote or buy an house because they were black
Yeah and some other kids in that class had white parents/grandparents who stood side by side with the black people, trying get them the rights they deserved.
Look I can agree that institutional and legislative racism should be dealt with, but then focus on that instead of giving people shit for benefiting from it because they lucked into being born a specific race.