If you demorats simply understood that a man's allowed to say whatever the fuck he wants, TO whoever the fuck he wants... then we as a nation and its people would be almost infinitely-stronger as a result. Because that's what adversity - "a difficult or unpleasant situation" - builds.
STRENGTH.
Speech shouldn't be legislated however platforms that are owned by private companies should be able to treat its users however they want. If they want to ban you for a retarded reason, that should be their choice since they don't particularly owe you anything and vice versa.
Tell that to all the people freaking out over Twitch going the way of freedom. If companies can do what they want they should shut the fuck up and either deal with it or as they said to the right "build their own platform".
Rightism dies without lies
Jules, you're a faggot cuck, and no amount of posting this shit will ever remove the taste of your father's penis from your mouth.
Your statement is bullshit
I don't know about that fiasco you just mentioned but I've always assumed almost everyone on that platform gains money from it somehow. And basically if something they do gets blocked, their goes their golden goose.
If they don't have a decent education then it's either factory work or welfare time for them I guess.
I would love to see one of those twitch faggots fall to homelessness and taken off their mantle.
>a man's allowed to say whatever the fuck he wants, TO whoever the fuck he wants
Only problem is that none of you fucktards have anything to say, it's all waaaa waaaa waaa
Fucking snowflakes
Twitch taking a bigger portion of e-beggar subfunds. Pretty lulzy. There's already talk of more switching over to YT, but YT is even more heavily content sensitive than Twitch with less monetization revenue which forces you to get sponsored, and mama Susan throws a tizzy when you take sponsor dono's because she can't bleed you for more shekels.
>does anyone else notice when a shitlib talks about *anything*, it's almost never about reality, and almost always lies and strawmanning, and they go literally beserk if they're criticized for it?
FTFY Jules. Now KYS.
triggered and niggered
Fake news
oops
Hard to have anything to say if you get banned immediately for not having the same opinion as everyone else.
Join a different website then if its so unfair to you.
Why do you want to be somewhere where you aren't welcome? I don't get it, stockholm syndrome?
Being a traitor is a little more than an opinion.
Free speech caused 9/11
He can't shill to a big audience on right wing bullshit sites.
4th panel isn't the socialist refusing to redistribute his wealth. 4th panel is the socialist waiting for others to redistribute their wealth towards him.
>that a man's allowed to say
Except he's not. Learn the actual first amendment, not the GOP Cliff's Notes version.
greentext fail
These was the exclusive domain of the right wing not so very long ago.
Joseph McCarthy was a Democrat
What the fuck are you guys on about. I'm talking about getting banned on WoW for making jokes about "The water is making the frogs gay. Aliens are controlled by the Illuminati which is actually lizard jewish people who paid the aliens to distribute covid in order to control the population"
Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech
Sounds like at the very least the government should shut the fuck up when I'm talking. Now as for other people... they're free to tell me to shut the fuck up, just as I am free to tell the to fuck off in response. This is the very basis of polite discourse.
cope
conservatism dies in full truth and open access to factual information. conservatism relies on creating us/them barriers it requires someone to fight to keep its funding and relivence.
It required witches, demons, rapists, monsters, evil people in far off places or even leftwingers to call immoral, corrupt and evil.
If you actually were allowed to open your eyes you would find much more in common with your so called enemy than you would with those telling you to fear them.
conservifags need someone to tell them what to think and what to do.
Or getting banned on New World for saying "lol ok retard" when someone posted a novel about how the word retard should never be used.
>If companies can do what they want, they should shut the fuck up
>I support freedom of speech, so people I disagree with should stop speaking.
Imagine being this retarded.
OP kill yourself.
Sorry, I thought you knew what fucking thread you were in, not that expected everyone else to be telepathic.
He was also a Republican
You cope faggot
Nope. Conservatives want free e hange of ideas which is the foundation of truth seeking. If you want to seek the truth you need to accept that some people will also lie or say mean things.
Toughen up crybaby. It's your job to figure out what you think us true. Silencing people for ideological reasons is not helpful or useful.
Elon showed what the left has become and it's disgusting.
counterpoint: I don't believe in free speech.
That law only applies to americans, Ivan
All speech is protected unless it "is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action". - Brandenburg v. Ohio
Why are ALL 4channers obnoxious twats?
Yeah the Chinese and North Korean laws are so much better.
Conservatism tends to correlate with poorly educated people while liberalism correlates with highly educated people.
They lose every culture war. They can’t stop us, only try to hinder progress.
Everyone here is like 12, just look at the drawthreads and waifu threads, its straight ERP. Not the good kind, the Neopets gifted wolf pack rp kind.
What the fuck do you even think you're saying.
The free exchange of ideas you speak of already exists, retard. That's exactly the point. What you are whining about is debunked and disproven ideas. Conservatives talk about space lasers and gay frogs and religion and creationism and anti-vaxxing and other bullshit that has long been established as falsehoods. The fact that smart people don't entertain your ridiculously uninformed and demonstrably false opinions is not a violation of free speech. It's simply the free marketplace of ideas discarding the bad ideas. There's a reason 89% of conservatives are religious and that definitely isn't truth-seeking.
Pic related. Source: Pew Research Center
I'll bet the person who stole it became temporarily happy once he exchanged it for one bicycle worth or crack.
I have yet to meet a conservative that has half the knowledge of a liberal.
please tell us why its conservative states that ban books? liberals didnt do that! now it may be that book sellers stopped selling books that werent popular anymore but that wasnt a ban just in case you were going to use that argument.
liberals share banned books much more often than conservatives do.
the only thing liberals censor is stuff that is proven to be lies.
If your idea of progress matches the Chinese government's you're not one of the good guys. Getting a PhD in gender studies then asking the government to forgive your student debt because you were too dumb to do something useful doesn't make you smart.
Conservatives want equal credence paid to their nonsensical alt-facts. Since conservatives idolize their leaders, the first amendment combined with social media has already created 2 generations of idiots.
Well those who are actually "highly educated" should know that correlation doesn't equal causation. That's basically the same as bias.
You didn't address any of his points and just started crying about some mysterious strawman that is looking to snatch your rights.
Why are all conservatives stuck in a victim mentality? They all act like pussies
that constantly overcompensate for insecurities, nowadays.
Freedom of speech is evil. Liberals and the North Koreans agree. The government should control what everyone says. Now we have a Ministry of Truth and liberals celebrate.
Liberals have gone insane.
blah blah blah im sorry nobody likes your shit-ass anymore. cry about it to your sisterwife.
Yeah and people who believe a man can become a woman solely because he says so are not religious nutbags as well? Your religion is wokism and it's as crazy as any other.
It's like a bingo game arguing with you morons.
>HURR, COMMUNISM, CHINA, GENDER STUDIES, DURR
It's like your brains literally can't think of something else other than the talking points fed to you by Fox News or whatever else the fuck you people watch.
Yeah conservatives ban books. Liberals create a government Ministry of Truth.
Neither is good behavior.
But I do agree children cannot be given free access to info. An adult can look at gore pics on the internet. A child should not be able to.
So conservatives blocking what children are exposed to is consistent with normal behavior.
Liberals blocking what adults fan access is not.
Yes. I agree. Anyone can say anything including nonsense.
Fact checking might be your dystopia. I'm SO cool with that.
>because I say
The government has literally created a Ministry of Truth in America. Trudeau is trying to censor the internet under the guise of hate speech. Europe has done the same. Liberalism is all about government control of what adults can say to one another.
Misinformation and disinformation are words for info gov doesn't like. Otherwise we'd just call them lies.
Read 1984.
>literally
>literally calls it something it isn't
republican shills are on suicide watch
Yes it is dystopia. Like when the fact checkers claimed bidens laptop was a Russian scam and then it turned out they were lying? Or when loads of scientific studies suggested that covid may have come from a lab? Or when it turned out vaccines didn't do half as much as advertised?
Who fact checks the fact checkers?
Ask the Chinese people and they'll tell you no one does.
That little soundbite you memorized doesn't fit this situation, and you'd know that if you weren't some proudly uneducated dumbfuck.
You're suggesting that your opponent was claiming that education CAUSES liberalism, or that being ignorant and easily manipulated CAUSES conservatism.
The fact that people as hopelessly stupid as you are allowed to live comfortable lives is a testament to how excessively forgiving our society is. People as mentally weak as you should be culled from the gene pool, your life isn't worth the risk of contaminating humanity.
>republican shills are on suicide watch
Possibly. On Yea Forums there's no shortage of them for whom this sort of reassurance thread's all there is to live for.
See, this is exactly what that other guy meant when they said that conservatives are simply ignorant.
There's no belief involved in transsexuality whatsoever.
Transsexuality is a well-established biological phenomenon. It has been studied by scientists for decades. For example, the a variant of CYP17, a gene that acts on the pregnenolone and progesterone, has been linked to trans women. There are brain studies showing that trans people have literally the brain structure of the gender they identify as. There is literally no scientific study showing any evidence that transsexuality is not a real phenomenon.
So, yeah, it's not about people "believing" things. It's about reality.
Nigger, you said we harvest kids for adrenachrome.
If I could, I would line you all up and shoot you ALL myself.
You've already taken shit too far to act like you have any interest in freedom.
Cool, I'll be sure to keep that in mind next time I see some stupid shitlib REEEEing about how Musk is a fascist dictator who doesn't have the authority to do as he pleases with Twitter.
The government created an agency to monitor what the population sees and says and block access to information it deems "misinformation". Notice it is not about lies or truth.
I was a huge Obama supporter. This is insane no matter who you are. North Korea and China do the same. Liberals cheer.
TLDR. Seethe more and write a novel faggot lol. Get mad that I disproved your shit from like 6 seconds in a college entry class.
So you are accepting transsexuality is a mental disorder?
I agree. Biology has proven this is the case. It does not change one's gender or sexuality.
It causes gender dysphoria and liberals' solutions are to censor anyone who points out a person's biological reality, allow 6'+ men to dominate women in sports, and let guys with dicks into women's only jails.
Oh, so NOW you're threatening to suck MORE oligarch cock?
>I was a huge Obama supporter.
What pandemic?
Obama used to believe in freedom of speech. Now he says he is wrong and the only solution to ideas liberals don't like is to censor anyone who speaks them.
Sure he said all that shit, bud.
Why would I believe it to be a mental disorder? I literally just explained to you that it is a biological phenomenon. It's not unlike being gay or having blond hair. It's just another state of being human.
But even if it was a mental disorder, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Mental disorders are real. A person is not schizophrenic because people "believe" it. Psychiatry is not a religion, Schizophrenia is a real medical phenomenon.
So, your argument is invalid. There is no religion involved here. Only science.
>So conservatives blocking what children are exposed to is consistent with normal behavior.
Except they go way too far. Conservatives see deviance and perversion everywhere they look, and wind up shielding kids from things that are harmless, or even important.
You act like that is a large portion of the population, but you're crying about some 1% of Twitter fags that get their messages amplified because of how absurd and engaging they are. These voices are favored by the algorithms that select for engagement on a platform. I'm probably wasting my time explaining this to someone as disgustingly stupid and gullible as you.
Your entire worldview is warped by what AI shows you because you get upset and emotionally invested and fall for the engagement trap.
Conservatives have no idea how to curate their own media so they fall for the dumbest shit that some obvious AI is feeding them. This is why conservatives are the most vulnerable to blatant propaganda and misinformation...they have been proven to be dumber than the general population, and not just liberals.
>Obama used to believe in freedom of speech.
I can't believe you think the literal marxist trained Obama ever believed in freedom of speech
Haha. Wanting systemic change to systemic problems. Crazy!
bubble wrap kids.
None the less the satanic panic was very very real and unreasonably dismissed
In one breath they shield kids from anything they deem improper, and in the next call kids soft.
All mental disorders are biological phenomena. A mental disorder is something which causes disabling distress psychologically (psychological pain) about one's circumstances.
That is what gender dysphoria is. It is a mental disorder. Same as bipolar or depression or any other.
Wow, look at how quickly you did a complete 180 on your entire perspective on the issue. When it's Alwaleed Talal calling the shots, it's merely a private company rightfully acting within their authority to moderate their """private company""" as they please.
As soon as Musk gets the same opportunity, though...
top kek, user.
You have the freedom to say whatever you want. The First Amendment does not, however, protect you from the consequences of your speech. For example, calling a big black man a nigger to his face is legal but will result in you getting your ass whooped and quite possibly murdered. Doing a nazi salute on Facebook with a nazi flag in the background while where a red armband is totally legal, but it won't stop your employer from firing you if they find it. You can post an ISIS beheading video to YouTube, its legal. Don't be surprised when you get banned because it violates the 'terms of use' that you implicitly agree to by signing up and using the service.
So you don't believe men can be women? You believe I should have the right to say that online?
He was attacked as a muslim foreigner for years and never once called for censorship of his opponents over it that I observed.