Brain police besieged @MerzbowOfficial

Okay, Merzcast. Hopefully last time.

1) My only real concern is how the Merzcast debacle has been spun here, in the fourchan forum. And nowhere else. The responses I've garnered have ranged from "shut up" to "kill yourself" to "It's no one's business". To the first two, thank you for your contribution. To the third, anything that transpires in a public forum is anyone who says its their business's business. Just because information can be erased from a public forum doesn't mean it can't be talked about. Make no mistake, people will be talking about this for a long time to come.

Some of the persons whose business this may be could include: fans (former, current, future), business partners, promoters, subscribers, customers. And pretty much anyone interested in the human condition.

My complaint is simple, and unintentionally ironic: that certain persons on this forum have piled on trying to censor a thread that is complaining about how other threads in the same forum have represented an issue that, for me, comes down to censorship. In the process, I have observed incomplete truths (lies), misquotations (lies), misrepresentations of events (lies).

2) will continue with a reply to this

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>ah bloo bloo bloo I tried to sell someone else’s art and they asked me nicely to stop! this is a scandal!

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The first victim of incomplete truth was the man himself: Masami Akita. It seems he "heard" that people were making money off of his name. It seems he also "heard" that someone was unearthing mud on his good name. My read: someone misrepresented the facts to Akita, and Akita lashed out in a way that appeared childish, but in a way that is consistent with persons of a certain age who have been fed half-truths about "them crazy kids". Language barrier did not help.

Second victim of the incomplete truth: GX. Long time noise person almost as storied as Merzbow. GX would have been revealing little that would not have been in the public realm. Akita staked twenty-five years of his career connecting noise and porn. His legacy is this: noise and porn. These three words are inextricably linked, forever: Merzow, Noise, Porn. There is nothing anyone can do to erase that. My read: Akita, having been fed half-truths, threatened to unplug a business venture between the two over GX sharing fond memories. GX called that childish. So a forty year relationship potentially destroyed over half-truths.

The third victim was the Merzcast. Which was unplugged (horrific), then renamed (hoorah). I'm not in possession of all the facts here but from my perspective it looks like the people behind Merzcast pulled the offending work off-line to help salvage the GX-Merz relationship (business or otherwise). Extremely cool response, I think. If it were me, I could see myself suggesting that Akita kindly get stuffed until such a time as he is willing to behave like an adult. That is, until he is willing to attempt dialog. From my no doubt incomplete view, Akita used his not inconsiderable leverage as an object of extreme fandom to force fans to accede to his demands. "The issue is resolved" because he got his way: his way or no way. No room. No quarter. Total tantrum of epic childish dimensions. Or crazy old guy dimensions. Or just marginally kooky old guy not in possession of all the facts.

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See folks, this is what half-truths, misquotations, and misrepresentations of events breed: unnecessary drama. To suggest that this is no one's business is to suggest a dangerously naive understanding of how things work. Or a dangerously sinister understanding of how things work. My hope is the former.

Correction: Someone erroneously informed someone else that I was trying to sell said someone else's art and they asked me nicely to stop. This isn't a scandal, but it's sad.

Some interesting comments from a noise forum

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discussing his work but is not fine with them discussing his private life. which is fair enough.

but how are people to know what is fine and what is private, or what he's going to be embarrassed about? Merzbow has famously made the analogy of his music being pornography, packaged his early tapes with pornography, made soundtracks for bondage performances, written for/edited an S&M magazine, recently re-released an album called 'Pornoise' with pornography on the cover... so how was GX to know it was off-limits to tell an anecdote about how, when Merzbow was in the USA around the time when he was still using pornographic images in his work, he bought a load of pornography?
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on the other hand it's nice to hear that maurizo bianchi loves counting garbage cans but like, be tactful, be respectful of the person your discussing

C'mon man, this kind of information is what separates podcasts from most written interviews, where a lot of artist try to be the best of them self or their image but end up being interchangeable to the next guy that is being interviewed. It's the humanity shining through through what makes it so great, the details, the life stories, the little man drama - not the hard guy talk, mr. knowitall or the standard obligatory fare.

Nothing I say will change anything to the podcast, but bits from the spice of life here and there, getting the life stories, what's the problem? It's not like he sacrificed babies and as long as they approach it with respect, I think they shouldn't back out (but expanding to other artist is a great move).

Last thing, some of those pictures on the Merzbow Twitter account are great, he sure loves his chicken and chicks.
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Odd how people are going to lock onto him being vegan or into metalcore or whatever. You really think that is what caused him to react and behave like this? We're all whackadoos. Don't bother assigning reasons why.

Great point. I am guilty of bring up the vegan and straightedge. But didn't assume that's what made him a whacko, I always figured he was wacked out and as he gets older it's just going to get worse. Plus he pushes the fact he is vegan and its always brought up in interviews anymore too.
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it might not have caused him to react like he did. but how do you take his response (before he deleted most of the tweets during his tweet storm about the Merzcast) "because vegan straight edge or Merzbow is vegan straight edge", he said that on more than one tweet to someone, especially whenever the porn discussion was brought up.

if anything he is locking himself into that box and pushing out that agenda. if people start to lock onto it, it's his only doing

I hadn't seen those. Interesting. Nothing like a little doctrine to fuck up us all.
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I need some background on this first. What is happening?

can i get the tl;dr quick rundown of this?

After looking through rbt, it seems like there was a podcast, called merzcast that was selling merzbow scans and art from the 80's on patreon. Merzbow found out about it, called the podcast "Merzbow Disapproved," and asked them to stop selling his shit, the people running the podcast sperged, and Merzbow went on an autistic tweet storm. Seems like retarded bullshit.

Is this Greh?

A legendary noise artist long associated with porn threatened to kill a planned reissue project because another legendary noise artist revealed in a podcast that, gasp, the legendary noise artist long associated with porn was once into porn. It is probable that this threat was based on incomplete information. Before that happened the artist learned, erroneously, probably from the same shit-starter, that the creators of the podcast were profiting from his work... er, not his work with porn, his collage artwork. Due to this misunderstanding based on misinformation, the artist's twitter manner became rather hostile at one point. The podcast creators responded in turn.

Since then, the issue has been "resolved" because the podcast creators gave up trying to negotiate.

Hard feelings no doubt remain but with luck they'll all get over it.

Noise folk are scum. All of them.

Mostly correct except as far as I understand, no scans of original artwork were being sold. However, that unfortunately seems to have been the creator's understanding. Very likely, the creator, Masami Akita AKA Merzbow, is surrounded by clueless retards. I bet those clueless tards are still giggling about the shitstorm they started.

merzbow was in porn?

meant for

People are scum. All of them. Except me.

Nah. He only wrote extensively about it, made soundtracks for it, help produce it, and hung out with people involved in it. That penis in that one scene could've been anyone's.

requesting sauce on porn with merzbow on the soundtrack

None of the people posting here is involved in the Merzcast. I think. But the OP (me) is a long-time Merzfan. And hopefully will remain so.

Why continue beating this dead Merzhorse? Why not move on and use your podcast to discuss noise/PE/experimental in general? You've got more attention since this whole issue, why not present something more to your new audience?

Merzbow is an idiot and deserves to have his chickens taken away.

His rotten eggs are finally coming home to roost!

I miss the days when noise was obscure and the average idiot on Yea Forums didn't know about Merzbow

Correction: Merzbow is a merzidiot who merdeserves to have his merzchickens merztaken away.

>somebody tries to make money off of your brand/music
>rightfully defend your IP
>retards on Yea Forums think you're in the wrong

The absolute state of music

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>some jerk erroneously informs you that somebody tries to make money off of your brand/music
>rightfully defend your IP
>retards on Yea Forums think you got duped

The absolute state of internets

Defend? By preventing it from being preserved by people who have every right to do so?

>muh artists rights

Why is Merzbow burying his own content into obscurity? Why is that something worth defending?

Good question. Not my domain. You'd have to ask N Seneda

It's his IP.
Regardless of how you feel, it's wrong to assume you have the right to manage someone else's work.

It's a conceptual gig for my next installation. At the end, the Merzhorse starts flogging me. A new shitstorm develops over alleged exploitation of Merhorses for profit. Akita, with ungodly huge bulge in trousers, denies he was ever a horse. Etc.

Communication could definitely have been better agreed. Can we at least agree that twitter is a curse and should be Merzflogged into oblivion?

Yes. Large, centralized social media in general needs to die.

"manage someone's work" seems a bit of an exaggeration if we are referring to a single image already freely available, or scans of images from one of the guest's collaborations and released on said guest's label.

The OP has clearly stated as having no relationship with the podcast. Just a person who is disappointed by how things panned out for them, but genuinely irritated by how the story has been repped by some posters on this forum.

I understand that Merzcast will reboot as Noise World, a reference I'd suppose to the late legendary Iwasaki aka Monde Bruits.

Merzbow has a pretty good gig going right now. Multiple appearances. Globe-trotting. Way beyond the scope of the average noise person. Now he's paranoid that his dodgy past, two decades worth, and not so long ago, is catching up. I don't blame him in the least for wanting to shut it down. Honestly, I'd do the same. But then, I'm not an artist, and I freely admit I have zero integrity and am in it for the money. Maybe if Merzbow came out and admitted the same, people would respect that. Who knows? Personally, as long as he keeps posting those cute duck videos, I'm in.

Hee hee hee! Obese gaijin. Hee hee hee!

Correction: a rude fuckwad was informed by his rude fuckwad friends that I was promoting his shit without his "permission" and the rude fuckwad just did as he does and has always done. This is not sad, it's pathetic.

I thought it was funny

Mind you, that might curtail the daily pron haul. Fucking dilemma.

Kill yourself