I’m like UH-UUUUGGGGG

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OOOOOHHHHHHHHHH
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDD
YESSSSS
Also tell ‘‘em it’s okay to be gay with special teachers who use they/them

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Hey little guy.
My pronouns are they/them.
You like wrestling?

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Good to know the new conservative meme is even more retarded than all the old ones like crt, and muh migrant caravan. kek.

What is grooming? Why is it wrong to tell kids
>some boys like girls, some girls like boys, some boys like boys, some girls like girls, some kids like everyone, some kids don't like anyone
>some boys grow up being boys, some girls grow up being girls, some boys grow up being girls, some girls grow up being boys
>whatever you are, you are normal and fine and there's nothing wrong with you

Looks like the thread is devolving into spamming and circle jerking. But I'll still wait and see if any of you can engage honestly.

Because you can’t change your gender and homosexuality is contemptible and degenerate.

OP here. I’m just ducking with conservatards.
I’m posting the groomer pics

>you can’t change your gender
Wrong. Read effort post explanation honestly and I'll clear any additional questions you have.

Sex is a collection of various attributes determined moments after conception. Your chromosomes, sex organs, hormones, etc are seen together and you're placed into a sex based on what they are. But you can be born with female sex organs and male chromosomes and vice versa, without knowing at all, until you get a blood test. Because these various attributes that contribute to sex are only largely correlated, not intrinsically tied to each other. This is why biologists say sex is bimodal, not binary.

Gender is also correlated to sex, but not intrinsically linked. Gender is a collection of social attributes, like sex is physical/genetic attributes. Gender includes what clothes you wear, what professions you do, how you style your hair, your intonation when you speak, etc. In the past, certain collections of clothes, professions, hairstyles, intonations, etc were seen as female, and certain were seen as male. Therefore, you could say a woman is anyone who dresses like this, just like you could say, a female is anyone with a vagina. You can't do that anymore because the gender roles for both men and women have expanded so much that they include all social roles for all humans. Men can present masculine (chads) or feminine (femboys) and same with women. Therefore, since there is no social distinction between man attributes and woman attributes, all that differentiates them is identification.

We can't say a woman is anyone who wears a skirt, just like we can't say a female is anyone with a vagina. Because women can wear pants and people with vaginas can have xy chromosomes. All that seperates the genders now is identification.

Therefore, a man is anyone who identifies as one, and a woman is anyone who identifies as one.

to be cont.

cont.

cont.

Being a trans woman, doesn't change your sex, just your gender... which is just your social role... similar to a profession. You can change certain attributes of your sex, like sex organs, to align more with the sex that's more correlated with your gender, but you can't change your whole sex, you can't change chromosomes. No one says trans people are changing chromosomes. They are fully in line with scientific consensus and conservatives who say trans people reject biology don't know what they're talking about.

>homosexuality is contemptible and degenerate.
Why?

Fair enough.

Sex and gender are the same, anyone who says otherwise is a delusional homosexual or a satanic liar. Both of those groups groom kids and should be exterminated.

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If you have no arguments, don't post. Don't shit up the thread for everyone just because you want to ree.

If they're the same thing why do we have two different words for it?

Because a Jewish pedophile named John Money (lol) needed to find a way to create more confused children vulnerable to grooming by adult homosexuals.

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All that text to say
>sex is not gender
Yes, absolutely correct. It's why we seperate bathrooms and sports and changing rooms by SEX NOT GENDER.
srsly thanks science!

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>muh john money
John money is proof that if you force kids to not adhere to their gender identity (whether cis or trans gender) they will be depressed and suicidal.

Also every single reputed scientific, biological, medical, psychiatric and psychological organization discredits john money, and don't even come close to using his work. Yet their study affirms what trans people say about themselves"

Why do you resort to dismissing decades of peer reviewed research by reputed institutions and individuals, which have been shown to reflect reality, to focus on one crackpot, who noone else even bothers to cite/respect/whatever, to discredit multiple fields of research?

>SEX NOT GENDER
Nope, we don't. Trans people have had the ability to enter whatever restrooms they want for literal decades. No issues. Trans women were able to compete with cis women based on requirements and regulations set by medical professionals for literal decades. No issues. Trans women have been able to enter women's gyms and locker rooms for literal decades. No issues.

The only way to ensure that the bathrooms are seperated by sex, is to do penis inspection, and a blood test (to make sure the chromosomes match the sex organs) for everyone entering the restroom. Does that happen? No? Then it's divided based on clothing, hairstyle, etc... in other words... gender.

The solution is to kill any troon who is caught in a woman’s bathroom. You don’t need to inspect everyone’s genitals, a few killings and they’ll learn to stay out.

dame

nailed it

If you have nothing to say, don't post. Don't be desperate to get the last word in, it's not a good look. And stop larping and reeing. It's pathetic.

all 5 of them

It’s a reasonable solution. If the next time a man in drag enters the girls bathroom and someone bashed it’s head in with a baseball bat it wouldn’t happen again. Simple as.

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Not a fair comparison, thats an actual woman.
Bad optics.

> If the next time a man in drag
Go back and read
as many times as it takes you to understand that men in drag are different from trans women.

I also want statistics that prove trans women in bathrooms increases rates of violence against women in those places (stats not anecdotes). There are studies showing trans women in men's bathrooms and prisons face significantly more sexual assault than cis women when trans women are allowed... which they've been allowed in for decades, pretty much forever, because again, penis inspections were never a thing.

The only reason you even think of it now is because conservatives have switched to trans people, after realizing they lost the culture war on gay people. The whole "muh grooming" meme, is just what they switched to after muh crt, muh cities getting burned down, muh migrant caravan, have all been thoroughly laughed out of the marketplace of ideas. Next week, when this meme has been thrashed, they, and therefore you, will move on to something else.

Notice this when it happens and it will show you how shallow your beliefs are. I know, because I was a conservative polfag once.

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There’s no need for such details and complexity. The next time a troon is caught in a girls bathroom beat it to death and the others will learn. It’s gonna happen sooner or later anyway.

>I want detailed states on a recent trend

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Take care retards. I can't help you if you refuse to be helped. Go ahead and call for violence. Maybe this one time, your side will win. Or maybe you'll learn from the civil war, ww2, the 60s protests, the 80s protests, blm, and today from ukraine and russia, that your side literally never wins.

I didn't call for violence, don't group me in w him

Kek, are you 12? Do you not know how to source a claim? Did you find this on /pol/? What study is it from?

Yeah my bad.

>cherry picked
>1979
nigga wat

yeah I hated the crt meme. glad those days are behind us.

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Because kids are kids. A 7 year old shouldn't need to worry about if they identify as a boy or girl. They should just be, complicated thoughts and words are being thrown to actual glue eaters and then what? Then you have children who are aware of a plethora of issues who then go into puberty with even MORE complicated thoughts going in. If a child feels a certain way, it will either pass or led on to an age where they are capable of a degree of critical thinking where they can then start making decisions.

> A 7 year old shouldn't need to worry about if they identify as a boy or girl.
A lot of trans people realize very young that they're trans. Telling kids that being trans is possible and normal, helps them be ok with themselves, and that there's nothing wrong with them. It also helps their cis friends relate to them. There is no harm, only benefit.

>complicated thoughts and words
What is complicated about saying
>some boys grow up being boys, some boys grow up being girls

>Then you have children who are aware of a plethora of issues who then go into puberty with even MORE complicated thoughts going in.
That's why kids who express any thoughts about being gay/trans are given years of counselling and therapy before any decisions are made... the flippant ones are weeded out, the serious ones (in case of being trans) are given further counselling and consultations with medical professionals, before being put on hormone blockers (which reduce the rates of suicidality in trans people massively, and has no negative side effects, and can be easily reversed by going off of them if you or your doctor change minds) and no one can get surgery until they are an adult.

The vast vast vast majority of people who are identified as trans at an early age and are put on hormone blockers go on to fully transition in adulthood and have much lower rates of suicide than trans people who didn't get puberty blockers as children. Because the vetting process works.

No, it doesn’t matter, there is no other choice, we can’t tolerate homosexuals molesting and grooming children.

The hubris in this post is hilarious

Yeah, idek why I try. I'm not gonna respond to posts without a point anymore, so go ahead and make non arguments all you want.

>child molesting homosexuals
>image where half of the articles are completely unrelated to topic

Good argument bud

Are you ten? This is an age-restricted board kid. Fuck off.

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Okay, white boy.

(Don't take this seriously, but you niggas talk too much about transfemales who come from NA and western Europe.)

There really isn’t anything to argue about. We despise sodomy, you love it. We’re never gonna agree.

At least you're admitting it's got nothing to do with kids and everything to do with you thinking anal is icky kek.

imagine being against a blowjob.. red fags are worse than muslims

It’s got everything to do with kids. Tolerating sodomy is bad enough but I suppose it’s bearable, asking us to tolerate sodomites having their way with children is several steps too far.

I mean homosexuality and related disorders. You can have whatever kind of sex you want idc.

>asking us to tolerate sodomites having their way with children
It would be nice if conservatives could stop getting frightened by their own imagination for once.

then dont say sodomy, words mean stuff. also will you notice how sheep like and arbitrary your moralistic lines are? maybe dont be such an absolutist when you dont even know meanings properly yet

gender was first differentiated from sex my margaret mead in 1949

transphobes need to lie because their ideology is driven by disgust, not facts

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Finally a decent discussion that doesn't involve throwing shit around because 'reasons'. Bare with me phoneposting in bed.
>A lot of trans people realize very young that they're trans. Telling kids that being trans is possible and normal, helps them be ok with themselves, and that there's nothing wrong with them. It also helps their cis friends relate to them. There is no harm, only benefit.
Again worded as such I can't say that as a whole it is negative, but again saying a lot of trans is still a tiny tiny portion of the population and it opens up to bad interpretation by both teachers and students which can and has been seen as manipulating. Why is it the detransitioning group has fairly recently come around in the last 5 odd years? Because someone, somewhere has been given information and it turned out wrong for whatever reasons may be in that situation.
>Complicated thoughts and words
>What is complicated about saying
>some boys grow up being boys, some boys grow up being girls
Because it opens up interpretation which can be harmful to children which can be used by a malicious teacher, which has been seen.
In regards to the whole last part I agree, by all means if someone truly feels like they will be happier transitioning go ahead. BUT in that same light it is a journey of the individual, not something that should be 'taught' in a classroom so to speak.

>has no statistics, just a random screenshot of a schizo's blog

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ill just say, you cannot use a tiny fraction of mutated outliers as a source to justify that people with a female body can be born with a Y chromosome, that is not normal, usually people like that also have XXY, which again, is not normal, you have special treated for special cases but when you are born with a normal genetic chromosome, that is what we base things off of, i get you guys over there want to focus on the minority all the time but the needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few, we should just go by sex and abolish gender as a whole, he for males, she for females, you can be a male who dresses and tries to act as a woman but you would still be male.

>Bare with me phoneposting in bed.
no problem.

>a lot of trans is still a tiny tiny portion of the population
Just because they're a minority, doesn't mean they should be otherized. Telling kids that girls are girls, boys are boys, otherizes trans kids who experience depression as a result, because they think there's something wrong with them. The same thing happened with gay people when sex ed just told kids that girls like boys and boys like girls. It also makes it harder for them to make friends because all the other kids think they're weird.

>opens up to bad interpretation by both teachers and students
Yeah but that's true with anything that teachers teach no? It's up to the school board to maintain teaching standards.

>BUT in that same light it is a journey of the individual, not something that should be 'taught' in a classroom so to speak.
Yeah, but no one is telling kids about transitioning, just that trans people exist, what they are, and that they're ok. transition is not being recommended to any kid until the kid themselves brings up that they feel like a different gender and goes through years of consultation and therapy.

>you're not a woman BECAUSE of your chromosomes!
>sure there are cis women who don't have those chromosomes, how is that relevant?

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>you cannot use a tiny fraction of mutated outliers as a source to justify
Science seeks to understand exceptions, not dismiss them.

> that is not normal,
Irrelevant. Read above.

>the needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few
What needs of the many are getting attacked by what I said?

> we should just go by sex and abolish gender as a whole
Based gender abolitionist comrade. That will happen one day in the future. Gender will become irrelevant. Pronouns will change to reflect other aspects of identity, other than gender. But gender matters to people today, so we're talking about it now.

>you can be a male who dresses and tries to act as a woman but you would still be male.
Yes, trans people aren't changing their sex. Trans people themselves agree with this.

those cis women you talk about are almost on every single case, you are able to be see something is wrong with them, when your chromosomes are not correct you can usually tell something is up, genetics is a REAL thing as much as you dont like it, find a counter argument instead of embarrassing your self with green text and pictures of your self

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