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funny because john mayer has one called 'room for squares.

Ornette COleman's free jazz one ( i think it's called the shape of jazz to come )
Kind of Blue is a concept album (unpopular opinions)
COltrane's late stuff is conceptual (the one where each song is a different astrological sign), also Love Supreme is a concept album. wayne Shorter had some concept stuff with Speak no Evil.

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I feel that might be stretching it for the term "concept album", if having some stylistic connection or feeling of a suite then a ton of great jazz albums are concept albums :)

still, somewhat curious what you think makes Speak No Evil a concept album besides "it's some great Shorter post-bop"

I think it's interesting to think about - like Brubeck's Time Out has a relatively clear concept with unusual time signatures (especially considering the time it was made), Black Saint and the Sinner Lady was written as a ballet, so conceivably it even has a narrative

generally jazz did conceptual albums earlier and I think a lot better than rock/prog did. comparing stuff like Duke Ellington's Black, Brown and Beige or Max Roach's We Insist! makes rockist claims of "Sgt. Pepper's was the first concept album" or the comeback "oh, surely Mothers of Inventions Freak Out! invented the concept album before the Beatles" seem very silly

The jackie mclean album looks incredible.

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>Kind of Blue is a concept album
please elaborate. I want to hear it

if "modal jazz" is a concept...
but stylistic factors don't make rock albums concept albums, so I guess I don't see it either

concept bump - been listening to quite a bit of George Russell lately

a classic jazz concept album no matter how you think of concept albums, I'd say (ok, no narrative plot)

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Is Cecil the final boss of jazz? I've always liked Avant/Free Jazz but I've had trouble getting into his music until recently, feel like it's clicked with me now.

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It's weird how I started listening to jazz with Cecil Taylor and Andrew Hill.

with free jazz like Cecil you can just get into it and let the piano be 88 small drums

I always thought that free jazz and deep avant-garde were pretty easy ways to jazz because your ear doesn't have to be used to some past convention

bebop and 50's jazz is a lot harder to get into now when the harmonies and chord progressions of the tin pan alley musicals and pop of the 20's-to-40's that that shit built on are even more obscure than early modern jazz

Thoughts on dark jazz?

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the ultimate meme jazz?

I don't mind listening to some of it, but deep in the "I'm looking for some jazz like Cowboy Bebop soundtrack" -territory overall

Bob Belden's Black Magnolia is a jazz project from the early 2000's that has a lot of the same appeal for me, so check that out for slightly dark cinematic jazz

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goddamn it these generals always seem like they have replies to my post when it is thread watched

Does anyone have any Japanese Jazz recommendations?

yeah, i guess I am stretching the meaning of 'concept album' to include musical concepts, but you gotta remember jazz players are like musical autists, they get very autistic about music, so a concept such as 'modern compositon techniques' could very well qualify as a 'concept' for a 'concept album' speak no evil is a stretch, but when you mention stuff liek Time Out, it kind of bolsters my argument, that's kind of where i'm coming from. Shorters new and unique compositional style would be the concept for that album. Also in this vein is:
Birth of the Cool - relaxed with tight arrangements
Steve Coleman Genesis - Orisha music blended with jazz and fusion and odd meter is the concept
Prism(dave holland) - odd and mixed meter with elec. guitar solos is the concept.
Benedikt Jehnel Modular Concepts - the concept is his compositional the bands unique approach to improvisation using plugable modules instead of straight ahead forms or complete anarchy/freedom
Yeah, i see what you mean, i may be stretching this. god cal l ith Black Saint and Black Brown and Beige tho.

the production on that album was unique and it has a very heady/ambient feel to it, i think the concept for that album is just so deep that if u don't hear it then you never will man. it's about something bigger than like 'a concept album about the kentucky derby' or 'a concept album about the stages of grief', it's a concept album about something so deeper than that stuff.

that's because rock music and jazz music are mostly on different planes, unless you consider the early 70s guitar-centric stuff like zeppelin hendrix santana and pink floyd etc.

Oh fuck that album exists???? I gotta download that one, like right now, look at that fucking line up

youtube.com/watch?v=vZLhVLyApNA kinda lame but not terrible if you're ears don't turn their nose up to anything that isn't musical caviar

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this band is pretty sweet but doesn't seem to be well known outside of the local scene as far as i can tell

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I've no clue how MOPDTK aren't praised more.

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highly underrated criss cross

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add maiden Voyage and Cantaloup Island to the list.

My nig. They are easily one of the greatest groups in modern jazz.

Ah. Now I can tell. So cool!

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