Well?

Well?

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metal killed itself

The Strokes

It didn't have geek fanbase. Everyone listened to 5-10 bands, but when genre freaks follow at least 50 bands.

Big media propelled it into mainstream, but no grassroots label infrastructure run by 30-somethings existed

No it didn't, nobody who liked metal or nu metal ever would like The Strokes or vice versa, and The Strokes were big with a different crowd of yuppies at the literal same time nu-metal was blowing up in the hard rock/metal world.

Also fuck this fag, he just put out a death metal vid but knows nothing about that either.

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Based SargentD playing a straight-normie youtuber and doing well.
Zoomers will never experience the glory days of HRO, SYWH and MI
Too bad Carles doesn't seem to care about the internet anymore, I miss him...

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Nu-males

Metalsucks is a poseur site, and this guy is major proof of that

What the fuck are "punks" who are poseur punks doing talking about metal they don't understand in the first place, fuck this kike

I get it

He was guest in a few articles but nothing else, metalsuck is shit and has always been.
Metal Inquisition was his main blog, it was like the metal version of HRO and the staff was SgtD and 2 more dudes who's name I can't remember. When it died (or they just handed it over to new kids, last time I checked it was a different site) a few wrote some articles for MetalSucks and that was it.
MI biggest memes where the Nocturnus Time Machine and Wigger Slam, but I'm shure I'm forgetting some better ones. SargentD/Finn live blog of a Brokencyde concert was epic.
Cant believe it's been already 10 years since the peak blog era

I mean it's fine enough and I try to not be a complete cunt when it comes to differences in musical opinion but the mere fact that guys like this are literally posing as authorities on metal despite not being metalheads is sickening to me.

People like this guy are not metalheads and are not plugged into the same world actual metal fans are, and view metal as being completely irrelevant yet thing their scenecore shit is what is the future even though it's already fucking dead. It's revisionist history, it's hackery, and it's cringe.

I think it's a good point that the garage rock revival was popular with a different crowd than the nu metal kids.

I think the real answer might be pop punk. Nu Metal was treated like a joke from the beginning, but that whole wave of pop punk bands like blink-182, Sum 41, etc. seems to have usurped nu metal's space among kids pretty quickly. It obviously wasn't nearly as aggressive or heavy as nu metal, but it did set the stage for those awful melodic metalcore bands like Killswitch Engage and edgy emo-pop groups like MCR.

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But even MCR denies being emo.

literally doesn't matter. What I'm referring to is the scene kid movement, more than the actual genre emo. Bands like Rites of Spring and Sunny Day Real Estate have nothing to do with the movement I'm referring to there (they're also infinitely better than MCR).

Not true either though, I remember the war between pop punk fans and nu-metal fans....pop punk was more it's equal than garage rock revival shit which was a minority. Pop punk and nu-metal was like the original punk scene vs the original metal scene, it was two sides of the same coin and neither one cared for the other, but there were about as many on both sides and both felt threatened by and hated the other

Us nu-metal kids called them faggots and sissies, they called us white trash (despite being so too) and made fun of our edginess....it wasn't the same crowd even still, though closer than the likes of The Strokes, it was still a different crowd...and one that tended to be more "normie", pop punk was more for people who shopped at Pacsun and Aeropostal rather than Hot Topic for the most part, there was some crossover of course but we're generalizing here.

And more importantly, just like garage rock revival, pop punk got big at the exact same time as nu-metal, it didn't take anything over, by the time nu-metal was uncool...so was pop punk, bands like MCR and Fallout Boy took their place just like bands like As I Lay Dying and A7X took the nu-metal place.

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I disagree. It sounds like you might be a little older than me - I just turned 30. Nu Metal and Pop Punk were getting big around the same time, but Nu Metal fell off way before Pop Punk. Nu Metal pretty much ran out of steam by 2002 (when the garage rock revival got big), but Pop Punk kept going strong for the entire 00s.

Maybe among teenagers in lame parts of middle America there was a rivalry, but for middle school kids like me we liked all of it. Korn and blink-182 were both fun and cool. And frankly, I get the feeling us 12 year olds were a major chunk of their buying audience. By the time we were teens, you couldn't admit to liking any of that stuff - pop punk was "fake" and you had to listen to The Stooges, Minor Threat, etc. and nu metal like Disturbed was lame, so you were supposed to listen to Mayhem, Vader, etc.

>Nu Metal pretty much ran out of steam by 2002 (when the garage rock revival got big), but Pop Punk kept going strong for the entire 00s.

I'm the same age as you, but it seems you just hung out in one crowd as opposed to the other if that's what you think. The crowd I was in was about metal and rap, liking Blink 182 made you one of those "faggots"

People seem to think nu-metal and pop punk, and boy/girl bands too, were 90s things...they weren't, the early 90s was still dominated by glam and grunge was just starting, mid 90s was grunge and the few metal bands still being big like Metallica and Pantera, late 90s was nu-metal and pop punk and bubblegum pop starting to rise with nu-metal being the biggest in the form of Korn and Limp, pop punk probably with Green Day, and the 00s is really when all these things became huge until the mid 00s

If you were buying metal rags in the late 00s even, it was all nu metal and metalcore with some old shit sprinkled in because nu-metal revitalized the metal label and allowed classic bands to be relevant again like Sabbath, Maiden, and Priest. If you were going to tours too you would have seen this, like the most obvious one being Ozzfest which was practically built around nu-metal and later metalcore mixing with classic bands.

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>Nu Metal pretty much ran out of steam by 2002
It didn't dude...Slipknot became the biggest band between 01 and 02, that was like the biggest time for nu-metal, it was also when LP got huge.

Slipknot was a cult band with the s/t, with Iowa they broke through, and with Vol.3 they became mainstream...that was in like what. '05?

Any bongs here remember skaters / moshers / townies? Correct me if I'm wrong (was probably 11) but "moshers" was nu metal fans, skaters were pop punk / Incubus / Linkin Park / Lost Prophets fans with Slipknot type shit strategically mixed in and townies were either "casuals" who played it safe and liked both of the aforementioned plus rnb / pop or chavs who went clubbing. Either way I remember the crossover for nu metal in 2002 compared to even 2003/4 being unparalleled, the most normie football playing kids would enjoy a bit of Slipknot but come 2003 and bands like Evanescence the demarcations came up again and you were either indie or some soppy MCR / AFI fan

korn's music got worse.

slipknot was never that good and the novelty wore off. they're decent.

limpbizkit. pop garbage.

what's weirder is the whole "alternative" scene died. i turn on the alternative radio and it's the same shit from the 90s. everything interesting is going on in electronic genres.

Modern "alternative" aka kids trying to rebel is in rap music, because rappers dye their hair now

Kids got sick of rock being pussy as fuck, nobody wants to be a pussy, they want to feel empowered, "grunge" set the scene for "emo" which ruined everything, now it's just niggermania

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>what's weirder is the whole "alternative" scene died. i turn on the alternative radio and it's the same shit from the 90s.
Space rock was a thing that grew out of math rock and grunge, it just never got much radio play for whatever reason. A lot of those bands are still playing good music in obscurity.

Wes Borland leaving Limp Bizkit at the top of their career
Linkin Park abandoning the genre with their third album

Wes leaving Limp wasn't what killed Limp, and Limp didn't kill nu-metal. When Limp died the rest of the flock was getting famous (LP, SOAD, etc) or still "credible" in the circle (Korn).

Limp became the laughing stock among the braided hair and Tripp pants crowd while it still existed, because Fred Durst's fatass tried to be a popstar, danced with Xtina, cried on MTV about Britney in a documentary, and got dissed by fucking Eminem.

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Well I mean while blink-182's California album wasn't bad imo they are now touring with Lil Wayne.

Pretty sure we're clear who's killing it NOW.

If youre gonna repost this thread at least use a different OP image

I Loved Nu back in the day. I've watched a few of this guys vids. I think he might be onto something with his crab mentality ideas. by mid 2000s every doucher had a slipknot/ korn shirt. I moved onto shit like clutch Blast tyrant, city of evil was a force to be reckoned with. All this ontop on nu generally getting worse= it's death.

Nu metal peak was coincided with a high point of piracy, not that the bands cared so much as theyd usually clean up most on tour and get gouged by the label, hence korns, yall want a single. So from then on i think an overlooked factor as to why there weren't any new nu metal bands was because youth interested in making loud visceral music realized they could do it on a computer with a daw vs learning guitar or drums and joining a band, so dark/hard electro and I hate to say, dubstep, kinda replaced it. Also you might find more answer's if you can explain why emo overcame goth.

Nu Metal died after Jenny Death

Nu metal and pop punk was literally the last time a ridiculous shitload of money was made from selling rock records

awwww,

mu has a kids section . . .

Niggers are the only ones being pushed atm because they are easy to get to sell themselves out cheap. People with actual talent do still have to pander to record labels but agree to contracts that just dont benefit the corporation as much as niggers, so they give niggers all the spotlight.