/prod/ - You'll never blow up

I'm new to this production thing but how do I archive this current pop sound?
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I'm writing a symphony with vintage synths. Two movements are done so far, but I have problems with the mixing

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im so terrible at sampling, it gives me a god damn headache

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>clyp.it/nxeoffeb
nice ! what synth used in calcium?

Not unless you have a plugin after it that reacts to different volume levels differently (like a limiter or distortion or something), or you're clipping.

Meme of the day

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Synth1

vst4free.com/free_vst.php?id=245

>You'll never blow up
Bonus meme for today's theme...

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>oboom working again

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A che ti serve oboom?

GIB PROD DISCORD

remote upload from uploaded and rapidgator, you can bypass all the limits this way

Cool, didn't know about that, thanks.

>tfw getting closer and closer to swallowing both the renoise and the monophonic synth pill

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>monophonic synth
Monophonic as in not stereo, or as in mono midi?

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anything to add?

Truly the elder god of VSTs

it's a typo, meant to say monophobic
multichannel synth for immersive dolby atmos IDM

monophonic synths are so fucking fun to fuck around with in renoise

you can easily make some seriously funky acid IDM basslines

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>clyp.it/5wjqr1ar
this is dreadful and i actually feel like listening to it has damaged my ears

As in one voice

that's the motto here

How do I record from Ableton to a Tascam 424?

sup
do you like this?
if not, why not?
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>instaud.io/3Eva
needs a better kick, something more sharp and clear.

you need to start learning how harmony works

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why do i keep writing such boring shit
i couldn't even use the right notes this time wtf
should i give up on music bros?

Yeah, YOU'LL never blow up. Me on the other hand ...

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give me an example of something with good harmonics and explain the differences, please

let's start with the difference in between harmony and harmonics

>instaud.io/3Eva
poor note choice, quite discordant.

o h
excuse me, im dumb
so, tell me about harmony and how to apply it

Go watch videos about functional harmony and come back when you're serious about music.

i looked at a video and i think theres harmony
im using the minor scale

Playing in the same scale doesn't mean it's pleasant harmony

made a choppy house beat by sampling Rose Royce. Thoughts?

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asio4all is being a bitch on my windows 10 computer, so do i just have to buy a soundcard with asio support? i don't want to pay extra for a usb interface because i'm not going to record anything

the first track here that doesn't have shit drums, the rest is nice too
it's still a good idea to buy one for lower latency and better sound quality

What are you just using headphones or something?

discord.gg/B953bP3

I know prod has a discord but here's one for just shilling and shitposting your stuff and other music production! Hope to see you there!

asio4all is dead FL uses "FL Studio Asio" now. Select that one.

Now for my separate question are there any decent plugins that emulate that old distorted cassette sound of the early memphis hip-hop scene?

vulf compressor

sample roulettte is where?

i use reason and even tho fl studio asio in the driver list, it increases latency a lot for some reason

>for some reason
heh

Rec me a bass amp sim pls

I'm using a vst of sansamp bod and, while it sounds good, it doesnt do that "miked cab" sound

kek

oh great, ANOTHER ONE
if you let people shill it's instant shit mate

graveyard

>old distorted cassette sound of the early memphis hip-hop scene
you gotta mix to that aesthetic man. "tape machine" in reaktor is the best plugin i've found to help for that stuff so far

>it doesnt do that "miked cab" sound
first of all mike is a name
second get a cab sim then lol. nadir is the go to

>second get a cab sim then lol. nadir is the go to
that's what i'm asking, why you're talking like you're correcting me?

this is a shit mix isnt it
youtu.be/CvNf8qMgrQ8

This is the first time I've shilled it here tho

>why you're talking like you're correcting me?
because you put mic'd cab sound in quotes. i didn't realize who i was talking to, i'll ignore you

no, i meant on the discord. it'll just be a dumping ground is what i meant, nobody pays attention to that shit

It may have just been wording but there is banter going on right now its not just a dump

nah you're good i'm just being a skeptical asshole

That's ok, being skeptical is just something we do I'm not in any offense

what's your second favorite besides NadIR

you're being shunned sammy

lol tryhard

fuck anyone, i just want my ampsim and you can have whatever feelings you have about me.

looking for some Kontakt libraries that wont rape the shit out of my storage.
Pirated version didnt come with any libraries but Im looking for orchestral and film scoring type shit.

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does this sound too cheesy?

Going to not recc the ones I normally would because they are enormous. The good shit is all quite large. If you want to minimize your footprint but still get something usable for general scoring, you can look into getting one SINGLE library that covers a lot of instruments. Something like Spitfire Audio Albion series. This is about 60GB. But your alternative is getting several libraries for each section, woodwinds, strings, percussion, brass, etc. That may add up to be more in the long run. For solo strings and such, you can look into Embertone's strings. They are quite good, but they are solo instruments. Building a section out of them will kill your RAM instead, but if solo is something you need, check them out. Sample modeling's brass and horns are quite light weight, and are among the most sophisticated of all kontakt instruments, imo. I build horn sections out of them (so, like 6 instances of the sample modeling french horn, going to reverb busses after positioning etc). You need to supply a dank reverb to put them in a space, and supply a large amount of midi CC# automation to realistically play the horn or brass.

You CAN look at the native instruments factory session strings, session woodwinds, session horns. I think they are shitty though compared to what else is out there.

My big boy string library is Orchestral Tools Berlin strings, but if storage is an issue, that's not going to work for you.

Does it make sense to jump straight into serum for electronic stuff, or am i better off practicing with some other softsynth first? Already know theory basics, and took a semester learning stuff in Logic fwiw.

Sure, the language of serum (modulation, oscillators, filters, etc) is just about the same as any other synth. The wavetable stuff is a bit novel (increasingly less so because its a fad now).

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How's the production on this?
(Posted it before, but have made tweaks based on suggestions)

i just want to dabble with kontakt for now. ill probably order some on sale usb drive later on if i want to go deeper into it.
i dont mind downloading a 60gb library to fuck with and then nuking it later if i dont like it but my peasant internet connection is only 25mb/s so ill be waiting a while.

know any good stuff in the 5 to 10GB range?

if anything serum might be a good start because the UI really helps you identify whats going on in your synth.

performance samples has decent stuff that isn't too heavy, hephaestus is also very lightweight but I don't think they have orchestral libraries

What would you recommend for people who don't find storage an issue?

It seems like every single artist I find on Soundcloud makes the same generic bullshit, and there's thousands of people doing it. The market just feels so saturated, and it seems that it's saturated by the same low-effort bullshit. People make uninteresting trap beats with mumbled lyrics or the same rehashed lofi hip hop. These threads have more interesting shit for the most part.

Has music become stagnant lately?

>mfw I listen to the 100th "lil RAPPERNAME" in a row

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Your drums pattern is pretty cool. It's too stretched out, though. Unless you're Daft Punk or Benny Benassi, you really can't loop the same shit for 16 bars with no variation. Have you ever looked at chord progressions? Basic theory helps a lot. You don't need to know about the Tierce de Picardie or four voice choral writing, but look at chord building, chord progressions, key signatures, and modes. Dave Conservatoire is my favorite of the music theory videos on YouTube. I learned a lot and reinforced other stuff. The videos are pretty short.

Don't get discouraged. You have strong rhythm, we just need to get you to a level where your melodies and such are strong too.

It's a cool start, but it feels kind of sparse. Some chords and drums would be cool, even if it was just a four on the floor kick. It has the early makings of some retrofuturistic song, like I see neon lights and Ferraris.

Sample Modeling Brass and Horns (as stated previously, I like to build my brass and horn sections out of individual solo instruments and these are the most flexible being dry out of the box)
Orchestral Tools berlin strings (the most articulations of any lib ive compared, and you can dynamically xfade between articulations- rare feature, also has a decent selection of mics)
Orchestral Tools berlin woodwinds (same as above just the woodwind version)
Spitfire Audio Orchestral Percussion
Orchestral Tools Timpani or Orchestral Tools percussion
Nine Volt Audio Taiko 2
Imperfect Samples Fazioli Ebony Concert Grand (pianos are a pretty personal taste area, but I like this one)
Neo Soul Suitcase Vibraphone
Spitfire Audio Organ
Impact Soundworks Shreddage 3 for guitar
Embertone for solo strings
Cinesamples Cinebrass if you just want "good brass patches out of the box" instead of desinging ur own DIY section autism like sample modeling requires.
Spitfire Audio Orchestral Brass as alternative to above
Nine Volt Audio Taiko 2, or Orchestral Tools Metropolis ark 3 for taikos and gigantor ethnic hits
Evolution Series World Percussion 2.0 (The only ethnic perc library you will ever need)
Plectra Series Turkish Oud for more ethnic Flavor
LA Scoring Strings 2 (OLD library, but if you are into micro-tonal middle eastern strings for some reason, this is the way to do that- unlike the aforementioned string libraries, the legato transitions will accommodate microtunings like the maqam arab scales)
That's a start.

One critical thing I left out. REVERB.
United libraries recorded in different spaces can be a challenge, and if you want it to be remotely convincing, you probably want to introduce some reverb. One common technique is to use a master tail reverb (sometimes on the master stereo bus- blasphemy in any other genre). Another, more rigorous (but potentially rewarding option) is to ONLY use the close mics from the various libraries, and build the reverb and room sound entirely from scratch. I take this approach. It never matches the tree mic sound of a real recording but i think the ability to unite different libraries in the space makes it a worthy trade off. For that I use:

Altiverb (CONVOLUTION REVERB) (the convolution route- whats good about it is, they record the same room from various distances. You can feed teh distant percussion or brass your 13 meter reflections, and the close strings your 3 meter reflections) This is a relatively organic way to achieve depth in your orchestral template.

and / or

2c Audio B2 (ALGORITHMIC REVERB). Ive been trying to move to this, its an algorithmic reverb. Designing a patch to compete with the real sampled orchestral halls of Altiverb is rather challenging. But B2 is a deep enough plugin that you can get close.

If you just want to use the room mics from various libraries and treat them a bit with a master shared tail, then the reverb can really be whatever you like the sound of. Lots of people use Valhalla for this, Altiverb, 2Caudio B2, or lexicon. The old timers use Bricasti reverbs or bricasti impulses.

If you are going the close mics route, using a algorithmic reverb, you can use something like B2 that lets you separately design the early reflections from the tails (not always required). What this buys you: the ability to predelay the early reflections separate from tail . This can help you establish depth. Each distant 'row' of instruments may be given its own ER and Tail.

thanks for the suggestions

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>bladee fronts a nu metal band

the sounds here are really interesting and your vocals are really nice, but it just feels a little too app-comercial-core indie for me
it's just too tinny. there's like no depth at all

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its very nice, but the intro before the vocal scome in is pretty muddy. maybe that's what you were going for though.

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Gib good impulse responses pls

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>Max for Live but usable
This looks cool

did he ask you every libraries you know of? telling a beginner to mindlessly download shit is the worst advice you can give

Have you heard of Reaktor?

I downloaded Ableton and made my first thing ever. It's just a ten second loop made from a sample I chopped up.

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I know it's pretty generic music wise, but I think it could be developed into something nice if I ever git gud.

Would anyone want to listen to this? I've been doing these modular jams lately but it doesn't sound like EDM or hip hop or anything.
m.soundcloud.com/user-469298534/5-7-19a

>can't read
i'm sorry but no. this is the stereotype of people who actually use modular too

well it's good for your first try man

Go watch some old analog era recording process if you are feeling overwhelmed in our digital age and day with all the DAWs, sample libraries, practically anything you can think of. Those guys had it hard.

People who feel overwhelmed are probably not that familiar with their DAW of choice (assuming you are using one)

I personally think the process is extremely similar to computer programming or any other programming language problems or simple sudokus, but with much easier solutions, Provided you are working with high quality tracks.

on ableton? look up smackos tape station

too much on the grid: )

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Its just the ones I use in particular, the best (IMO) if you had no regard for storage space.

I don't know what type of music you're making, maybe it's justified, but personally, I'd get anxious if I had so much shit on my computer.
Back in the day, people would stick to just a few devices and make the most out of them.

The main ones I use would be the Strings, Woodwinds, Brass, Percussion. Genre: Orchestral score / soundtrack stuff. I do agree tho that its probably more listed than applicable to most people. I wanted to give them at least one library per instrument type. I use a template where every instrument I MIGHT use is already added and premixed (like reverb and spatial placement, EQ etc). So that way I can just get in there and write. Just to show that I'm not the worst in this thing, Here's junkie XL discussing his template. youtube.com/watch?v=bB1twfL5b28

Even I think that motherfucker is crazy.

When someone is playing their song live in ableton do they have all the mastering plugins going while the song plays so they can manipulate their track and have it still sound mastered?

This isn't even close to Max for Live though.

That is just... wrong way to do it in my opinion... I mean a really bad solution, like a band-aid fix

Only thing I would use before the actual mastering process is maybe some limiter that starts to take effects past +0db just in case if running lots of vsts some plugin starts to fart all over the place. I'm not professional, so do not take my advice as some truth though, just my opinion.

I agree with ur response, and I think the OP may be overestimating what the mastering phase is going to deliver. Your mix is the main factor. The mastering phase is just getting that last 3% so your mix translates well. All the heavy lifting is done via mixing.

I know some pro musicians I like use a simplified version of their mixing/mastering setting. I guess some of the mixing workload goes to the PA when you play live.

Usually not, as most of them don't even master their songs, and most importantly, the mastering only works on the final song with all the pieces together that way. If you change something (like removing stems or altering them) the mastering will inevitably need to be changed.
So they either alter the stems to sound like the mastered version (I personally don't know how ut I've heard that they do it somehow) or they have some kind of master chain that I guess you could call mastering, but it wouldn't be the same as what's on the release version.

>another day wasted refreshing r9k all day instead of producing

I fucking hate myself

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why would you ever go to that cesspool, you retard

learn how to read retard, it's because I hate myself

>r9k
why?
serious question.
every time i visit that board i leave feeling 10x worse than before.

by habit, and because me being shit at music is a tough reality I'm trying to escape

great but you posted on the wrong board about it faggot.

go find escapism that doesn't rot your brain; i still visit r9k occasionally because i'm a miserable neet loser but that shit only makes it worse man

>smackos tape station
looked it up, demo sounded nice so i just tried some of his other racks, as i'm happy with my own lo-fi erizer ableton rack

.... that guys stuff is messy as fuck honestly, i wouldn't recommend it solely based off how he organizes his racks

that's the worst way to do that

just block the url of that board if you really don't any discipline. literally anything would be better than going there, just play video games or something instead

Melody in the first track feels aimless. It's good though, now, r8 my idm.

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>i wonder how i can take a solid practical form factor and make it worse

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n o t h i m
6/10 on the /prod/ weighted scale

write some new songs and write some shit that isn't just cool sounds and loops strung together

fuck is that real?
the midi keyboard market is such a fucking joke it's sad

God these creative periods are pretty tolling on me. My workload increases, I spend all my free time either equipment building, planning, chiseling songs and huge micromanaging. Watching sound examples of various equipment.. technical details. Building the perfect setup for my home studio for the current needs.

This goes on for few weeks now and I sleep only like 4-5 hours per night during these periods and I literally cannot rest before the first part of the process is over. This is my 5th time in studio working and 2nd time I will be recording all on my own.

All the raw tracks are ready to be re-recorded with proper instruments/analog sound and better mics, laid down, midi files, equipment. I only need to place in some orders and I am good to go for my recording process. Should only take this day and maybe tomorrow to finish all the orders and I can finally put things to rest and take a 2 week break.

Maybe start recording next month. This is such a time consuming hobby. Days are literally too short to produce if you are not professional.

That's not a midi keyboard, it's a synth with an integrated keyboard in the worst possible place.

What kind of music do you make?

why do you think so many people are quite skilled and knowlegeable but have nothing to show creation-wise?

my statement still stands :^)
yeah it might as well just not be there honestly, the "user assignable" macros above just makes it worse lmao

i am so confused at this post
... like i can realistically see a lot of prep for what i have in mind but what you're describing sounds excessive.

>my statement still stands :^)
>yeah it might as well just not be there honestly, the "user assignable" macros above just makes it worse lmao
Yeah.
At least they still have the normal version without the keyboard, so it's not too much of a big deal.

hello prod do you think either of these have potential? or should I scrap them completely and just try something else

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What are some affordable monitors for a bedroom producer?
I had some written down somewhere but I forgot. I think they were Yamaha something?

>having the same bug in fl studio where changing the tempo doesnt resize the waveform automatically
IT JUST WENT AWAY A FEW DAYS AGO WHY IS IT BACK FUCK YOU IMAGELINE YOU SHITTY DEVS

how the FUCK do I mix drum toms

Because they're not inspired?

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Is my sub bass fitting well? I often struggle with them being overpowered in the mix

It's a bit too much

Is there any way to make the metronome in Ableton even louder? The preview/cue volume in the master is already at max

Go in the folder where the metronome sounds are, drag them into Ableton, clip the fuck out of them, export them, and put them in place of the old ones.

Because they waste their fucking time worrying about gear instead of doing the work. Pulling out your wallet is the easiest things you can do and people do it telling themselves they take a step in the right direction, when it's just avoidance and they're too scared to be creative.
Sites like KVR or Gearslutz are truly loser centrals.

Thanks

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I was joking but hey, you do you my man.

A serious response would be to lower the master and increase the speaker/system volume.

Did changing DAW improve anyones workflow or production?

I know it sounds like such a beginner question, but I've only used Ableton for 4 years and to this day I still feel like my workflow is all over the place. It almost feels like Ableton is too easy or has too many options.

yamaha hs aren't bad but currently the real contest is in between:
jbl lsr series
adam t
these really shit on everything else in the entry level segment
but I'd say you should listen at a store and take the ones you like best in the size you can fit at your workstation, maybe you like some yamahas or rokits better, no one cares if you can get good results

For me it was the opposite.
I used to use FL and having everything as a separate (often floating) window made everything feel like a chore, and when I moved to Ableton, having everything one or two clicks away made me so much faster and working on music started to feel natural like doing something IRL with my hands.

Everyone has a different brain, so it's all about choosing what works for you because you may get advice by someone who swears by their workflow but might not work for you personally, so if you don't like Ableton's workflow all I can advise is to try changing it up within Ableton (since it allows for many different workflows) and to try other DAWs.

If you have the money maybe consider getting into hardware. For a lot of people it makes a huge difference.
Perhaps if you know someone with a hardware setup you could go and try theirs before spending the money on a workflow that might not even work for you.

>has too many options
Relative to the other top DAWs Ableton has the least amount of features (if you don't cound stuff like third party M4L devices and scripts).

fluid audio and swissonic if you're in europe

ive been on ableton for 5 and my workflow still makes significant leaps every few months after learning or realizing something about it

... I mean it really depends. If you just suck and you're looking for excuses then you're sol, a legitimate reason like you'd prefer pro tools style tracking (or it's take selecting or comping features idfk ghe specifics) because you make rock is another matter.

I always heard lsr vs the hs was roughly even? I have the hs50s and agree with what most people say about them being mid forward and fatiguing.... and well 5s lack bass

>Man the music industry is rigged, its all nepotism, connections and industry plants. Independent artists literally cannot make it on their own
>links their music
>its fucking garbage

why is this true literally every time

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Swissonic ASM7 seems within my price range and have pretty good reviews. I'll look a bit more but these seem good.

How is the bass on these? I'm used to having a sub below my table, never had monitors before.

I don't have them but they should be similar to yamaha so don't expect lot of bass

clyp.it/frpip0vy

A mate and I banged this out.
Thoughts?

I'm using FL right now and I'm realizing how bad it is for recording instruments. Is Ableton any better for tracking some DI guitars and putting vocals over them?

I'd even say on-axis most of these speakers have a very similar performance (with their own signature of course), but the lsr and adams have the huge benefit of controlled directivity by the waveguide used. a good polar plot is something you until recently only found with more expensive stuff (neumann kh for example), but the lsr pretty much introduced it to the super cheapo segment.
the waveguide makes sure the diffuse field isn't super colored as you'd have with "bare" or only slightly waveguided tweeters, especially in the crossover area. this is a big deal because most amateurs don't have a perfectly treated room so taking early reflections into account as much as possible in speaker design is a big deal at this price point

People who spend their time complaining about things that are holding them back end up not working as hard as people who think they can achieve anything with work.

Also it might just be a cope.

What do you mean exactly? I use Ableton to record my guitars and it's pretty easy, haven't touched FL in like 12 years though

>Is Ableton any better for tracking some DI guitars and putting vocals over them?
Probably better but not good either.
Check out Pro Tools, Logic, Cubase, or even Reaper for that.

Im just about to get my first audio interface for recording electric guitar into FL, whats so bad about it exactly?

I feel like its also always the same people who release music that is unmixed and unfinished, with no clear discerning theme or tone and 0 interesting elements for listeners to latch on to and then complain about how "its all rigged"

shit is really infuriating

>shit is really infuriating
Why?
Would you rather have them make good music and be more competition for you?

Let the retards be retarded and focus on getting ahead of them.

I'm not really sure what to call this really, just electronic I guess. Does it hold interest and justify it's length? Also, is the sound design compelling enough to be enjoyable?

instaud.io/3EFc

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I lost interest after 1:35, the sound design is good but maybe at the very start it sounds too ugly

The sound design is fine but when the bass comes in at the beginning it sounds like a separate song playing on top of the song with the chords.
Also both the chords and the melody seem rather random to me and don't really catch my interest or make me feel anything.

Maybe this was intended but if it wasn't, you should be able to have more cohesion by applying the same effect to everything (like some slight distortion or compression or whatever), and by changing the arrangement so the notes aren't too "random".

Other than that it sounds pretty good.
Maybe I'm just a fuckboy who doesn't understand this sort of music, but if it had normal melodies and chords I'd download it and listen to it for pleasure.

Meme of the day

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>loops an indie song, pitches it down a little and adds shit trap drums i bought from a drumkit online
ah yes, $100 for a beat please

clyp.it/5s5fpoja

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Fair enough, it's noisier than it really needs to be, you know how it is when you find a new thing and you just go overboard. Thanks.

Thanks for the feedback, I'm still not very good at writing melodies yet desu

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How's it feel? Well balanced?
>quick mellow guitar rock

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yeah it's pretty good
some of the voicings on on the saws can be reworked, and a note on that melody synth at 0:51 sounds off.
also mix/master wise you can bring it a bit up in terms of volume.
also i'll have to agree, intro is a bit ugly.
sound design is interesting throughout.
are you british by any chance
ending sounds bit porter-robinson worldsy

because of 30 year anniversary Cubase is half price right now for all upgrades or new licenses im thinking about upgrading to 10 but not activating until I can get 10.5 grace period

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KRKs unironically
post example

Based

Yamaha HS5m

You guys are retarded it’s an homage to the original Monomachine you’ve never used Elektron I can tell

I know about the other Elektron shit.
It being an old idea doesn't make it a good idea.

I have the Analog Keys and it’s honestly not better to have it “on top”. I’ve used the monomachine keys and liked it about as much as the AK.

Just don’t buy it then, but you have no taste

:^)

Nice choice-supportive bias.

>having to move left and right to alternate between playing the keys and looking at the screen isn't worse than being able to do the same thing while sitting still
Do you only play the keyboard with your right hand?

How do I create a good pad sound for pop music? Like, what synth and patch could I use or how I could go about making that kinda sound.

I've tried different but most shit sounds corny and bad.

youtu.be/9Ht5RZpzPqw
Like the one on the interlude of this song or something like that.

>no knowledge of music at all
>still have a decent ability to throw chord progressions together because you're a Brainfeeder/Hiatus Kaiyotefag
>can't figure out fills/runs/other melodic shit
>everything you make sounds like unfinished shit because of that
>your ineptitude at producing melodic bass keeps you up at night

You think YOU'RE not going to make it?

IM BACK BABY

clyp.it/4dkgwd02

guys i know i bought my DAW and gear in 2015 and i still haven't made anything but i swear today i'm gonna make something! later today i mean.

you can do it

>post example
My main problem is that they have too much low end and get buried in the mix. There's not enough snap, I want to something like this where they stand out youtube.com/watch?v=iujzt8AG0zE
I'm using EZDrummer2, I haven't found the right kits, but I haven't installed all of them yet

That's the one. Looking now they're twice as expensive as the Swissonics though

the sound design is cool but I don't think I've ever heard a track that was interesting on sound design alone. the harmonic basis of the track feels completely static - it lacks any sort of tension to push the track forward despite a decent arrangement. also I think you're abusing those bass drops a little bit

instaud.io/3EDg

instaud.io/3Emt

please do you think either of these have potential or interest can I get a response please PLEASE

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Where's the Syntorial magnet link?

Nah
Never play your 808 like that again wtf

There's an archive user

like what? and only one song has an 808, what about the other one?

It's not good dude, don't make me be mean

Is there a way to make Ableton stop recording at the end of the marked area here? I can loop but then it starts over again.

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Should I?

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the punch out button next to the loop button

Why would you need to be mean? I just want honest critical feedback. If I asked anyone outside of here they're just gonna tell me its amazing or some bullshit. I know the mixing on the second beat is bad.

Got it, thanks

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I put alot of effort in this project and I think it's good enough now to send it to a producer. Any tips who I could turn to?

gatesoflove.bandcamp.com/

A producer? Do you mean a record label? If you do mean a record label, I've been wondering who to turn to as well. Seems just like a community/luck thing. Also playing live in a strong music scene seems key.

Online labels are weird, it doesn't seem like there's much money involved, more of just another way to broaden your feelers and audience. Another stepping stone to being a better music maker and making connections.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

Maybe it's me but I've never gotten to know about a band because of their label. Maybe somewhere in the process it happened without me knowing, but for me it's all word of mouth/looking for myself.

There's no live music where I live, and CD stores are dying, so I'm all internet when it comes to music now.

but isn't it good to have professionals to promote you? they know all the channels and radio stations and people who have venues to play your stuff

If you live in an area where that's an option, then sure it might be helpful. You could try reaching out and asking local bands who got a deal how it went for them. I live in nowhere so there wouldn't be any venues or stations to play my stuff, so for me it's pointless. Maybe online radio/streaming is a thing labels help you out with now, I dunno

>I've never gotten to know about a band because of their label

Me either desu but other people have, and that allows it to travel through the grapevine easier.

i've seen you post multiple times, you know this isn't a thread to shill yourself, fuck off

uhm... are you serious? Did you listen to all my albums yet?

>DON'T link to Soundcloud or youtube etc, anything that is not anonymous is considered self promotion and will result in bad feedback.

Literally in the OP. Go to Soundcloud threads to advertise your stuff

chill bro... it's not like /prod/ threads couldn't use some good music... I just haven't it uploaded anywhere else, I don't want to promote myself... why don't you just enjoy it??

how to achieve that snare sound?

youtube.com/watch?v=j1eXPBQYknM

>it's not like /prod/ threads couldn't use some good music
lawl.
dude it's annoying because if everybody acted like you it would literally just be a bandcamp thread, you're being a selfish asshole

very super srs :|
... my point being you *know* you're being a faggot when you post your bandcamp because you've obviously been told before

... i do not want to listen to that shit, i'd rather listen to AnCo or whatever other quirky band.
i mean you're ALRIGHT (good for /prod/ standards obviously) but it sounds like shit and, just personally, i don't care for the songs at all but i'm not youur audience so it doesn't matter.

my advice for people like you is to find somebody who's more technically talented and maybe a bit more conventionally but doesn't write the best songs and collab.

>... i do not want to listen to that shit, i'd rather listen to AnCo or whatever other quirky band.
lots of people said otherwise... don't you think /prod/ threads need a bit of support to live??

I'm making a symphony with vintage synth sounds... I suck at mixing obviously... any tips?

instaud.io/3EMB

So just post your stuff anonymously like everyone else
Here you go: instaud.io

Can't give many mixing tips but I really like it. Sounds like the theme to the starting village in a Super Nintendo RPG

I'd do something about the trumpets or whatever those horns are in the beginning though, they don't sound great.

any stereo MIDI tips?

>I'd do something about the trumpets or whatever those horns are in the beginning though
thanks for feedback... yeah I think so, too... my approach was to sample the sounds I liked from the Arturia synth and then arrange everything with the Ableton simpler and switch back to the original sounds in the end... it turned out that the Arturia trumpet sounded shittier than my sample so I switched back, but now the timestretching sounds like shit... It also seems like some of the Arturia plugins don't support velocity, does someone know how to fix that?

that's the second movement, I'm working on two more
instaud.io/3EMT

i can transition from chest voice to head voice smoothly. fuck yeah, i'm so great!!
vocaroo.com/i/s12svx1C0DKm

clyp.it/dvi2t4yo?token=16925d169eabf0b8941e2245ec2a2072

what causes the sound to just drop like that? third one is with a sustain pedal

bump

this thread deserves to die

why?

jbl's are the new standard. You can get a pair of 8" bstock for less than $300

no one listened to his shit clyp.it

why do /prod/ threads always die when I post my albums? Guys, don't be so ridiculously strict with your 'no promoting policy'... give it a listen

quit begging for people to listen I wont just because this I was actually about to listen until I saw you beg

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wtf are u actually serious? I'm begging nobody, I just think my music can bring enjoyment to your lives... take it or leave it, m8...

maybe if you weren't a desperate self centered faggot

nice ad hominem, thank you
>never gonna make it

>not buying the kali wich are almost exactly the same speaker but cheaper

no I never intended to listen in the first place

why are you in a /prod/ thread then? That's the epitome of being selfish, expecting feedback but not being willing to give any....

desperate because you're begging for plays
self centered because you're not following the *one* rule because you think your own self promotion is more important than not annoying the fuck out of everybody

upload anonymously, are you seriously that fucking retarded that you don't understand why nobody wants to listen now?

>because you think your own self promotion is more important than not annoying the fuck out of everybody
I said this numerous times, it's not about self promotion, I just have an upload already, I'm on the road right now and I don't understand why I should bother to reupload everything just to make it anonymous. I think we could really talk constructively about my music if you weren't so damn focussed on that rule that has its purpose for people who r e a l l y just want to promote themselves. I think we could really all benefit from analysis of my work...

>I think we could really all benefit from analysis of my work...
YOU can, not us, you're not that fucking great. Nobody wants to interview you and nobody gives a fuck about you dude, that's the nature of this website and that's the whole point of the thread.

You'e not trying to help anybody just fuck off with that shit; it's really fucking convenient that every time you post it's an album that's done (you're obviously not taking "feedback" back going back to change shit) and you just so happen not to be able to upload anonymously.

i wish there was some sort of sample everyone could work on for these threads so you could learn from and get inspired by how others handle the sample.

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so like....... a CHALLENGE???
nice try kiddo :^)

>YOU can, not us, you're not that fucking great
uhm... did you actually listen to my work?

I bought a Mac Book Pro and Logic back in 2005 and I still haven't made a single piece. Hell, I hardly even used that laptop. I still have it to cook eggs.

that's a great idea and I think we did this already a few times in the past years... can be great fun if the right people are online by accident

yes you stupid faggot, i listened and i don't have any desire to ask you anything based off what i heard.

nice ad hominem there, thank you very much... now I'm convinced that you're just not ready to discuss music seriously... you know you must be 18 to post here, right? do you even know the basics of music theory like harmony?

Because nobody gives real criticism. These threads are a black hole. Just a reskinned version of /r9k/ where we refuse to help each other but tell each other we're never gonna make it.

btw can u link me one SINGLE anonymous audio in this thread that was worth listening let alone discussing? See, I didn't think so...

this guy gets it...

>nice ad hominem
>you know you must be 18 to post here, right?
okay i knew you were stupid but this sounds like a third user entered and is just trying to fan the flames here. you're not worth replying to

kek
I promise I still intend to make a Dreams remix one of these days. Still working 60's though.

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okay now it sounds like YOU are trying to shut down the discussion because you realize that you were nothing but destructive... how is calling out an underage poster an ad hominem? And what flames are to fan?

vocaroo.com/i/s0COZoMpIFA5

bump

it's sammy, saved you a click

thread full of trolls and assholes

nothing new here

instaud.io/3EPf

Kimryd tried doing one and I submitted two tracks. He did nothing with it and went awal.

nothing or barely anything said about

c'mon guys, keep it alive... give feedback and get feedback

Posting some stuff I recorded to test an old Gibson guitar
soundcloud.com/michips/guitar-tone-test-3

instaud.io/3EPF
updated, might have made it more cheesy

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good ambience you have going here. reminds me of the caretaker but less of a hack.

Thanks, making another album in this style. Recently picked up a ton of thrift store records and ripping them.

>the caretaker
Wait. You mean that guy didn't compose and record those little clips on his own? That motherfucker.

I guess your album is a real killer!

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I haven't produced anything since the Dreams contest, doing a remix robbed me of my creativity and now all I can listen to is Fleetwood Mac.

do any of you niggas make hip hop?
like stuff that isnt just trash 808s, sampling vibes
do you ever make you own samples?

Yeah I do all that grandpa, AND I make "trash 808s" too.

I do not make hip hop but I do make breaks that attempt to sound like sampled soul and funk breaks.

Nobody here wants to help anybody else or really get better they just want to stunt on people they're slightly better than and never actually release music.

dang man somebody stunted on you?

lemme hear ur shit whippersnapper
got any uploads

wonder what /prod/ is on these days

>Kimryd
What?

Yes and I'm still salty.

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Holy fuck I found an even worse youtuber than Multiplier.
youtube.com/watch?v=6Q3p-Ex5xxw

I'm mixing bleach and ammonia as I'm writing this post.

>massive envelope morphing
how the fuck did i not take advantage of this sooner???

my drum synthesizing game is about to step up fags, have fun rawdogging the same samples as every other producer! >:)

Here's some of my recent autistic improvisation (WiP's)

instaud.io/3ERh - foley stuff

instaud.io/3ERf - glichy samples

instaud.io/3ERe - light improv beeps

Hey! I think that first one has potential. How long have you been producing? I'll no honest and say I can't give you much practical advice - but I did enjoy what I heard :)

>instaud.io/3EHs
Hey! I find this track too bland, and maybe it's a chorus or phase but the guitar might not be tuned perfectly all the time. My only advice is to keep trying :)

Man I'd love to be able to make this kind of stuff - good work. It could use a bit of mastering for boosting vol and clarity. Composition is a+

This is nice work, but I imagine it didn't take long to make. You could experiment with more layers for interest. Nice vibe tho

I honestly like how tinny the synth sounds. You need a lot of work in the drums/composition, but don't sacrifice your sounds style because of criticism you receive from people here too much :)

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>instaud.io/3ERf
well I don't love these songs in particular but i'm intrigued what you may do in the future mostly from hearing this one

instaud.io/3ERU
Would love feedback on this dungeon synth I wrote. It's not finished. I just overall am not hugely happy with it and I am curious if other anons think it sucks ass. It's meant to be background music with a lot of old-school string synths and have this very mysterious ethereal feel. Any advice you could give, especially if you're familiar with the genre, would be invaluable to me. Thanks in advance.

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i don't dungeon synth so idk what quality this song should be but those drums are absolute ass. rest is okay i think

(instaud.io/3ERe)--> i found this relaxing but i don't understand what you wanted with it hope you'll post angain soon with more

instaud.io/3ES4 - working on this one today i have the idea but stuggle to go farther

Ar non famous musicians poor?

Drums are far too loud

Usually yes, but there are exceptions.
For example DJ D-Sol isn't very famous but he's not doing too bad financially.

music is shit

I have so much I want to express but its fucking meaningless without theory

I'll never be able to reach the level of melancholy Brian Wilson did with Help Me Rhonda or Mac DeMarco with On the Square by "punching in" shit MIDI notes in shit VSTs in shit FL Studio

I want to kill myself violently

>I'll never be able to..."punching in" shit MIDI notes

it's perfectly possible, you just suck at it ADW
learn to play keys and stop bitching

how

Can't Ableton solo play two tracks at the same time? If I want to listen to just two tracks it's very annoying to manually switch every other track/group off.

ctrl+click on the blue solo button (or mute or whatever).

thx, u da best

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I know.

Your snare hit ends much too abruptly and the drums sound a bit dry. Moreover the melodies at around 2:09 clash noticeably both in rhythm and in dissonance. Judging by the rest of the song, I don't think this is intended. It's structured well and the arpeggio from the beginning doesn't overstay its welcome. The dropping in and dropping out of elements is well done and creates a dynamic feeling which avoids some of the repetitive traps dungeon synth can fall into. The timbre choices and song sound a bit vanilla for me all in all, wouldn't be that happy with it either but you got a decent base to work with. Which artists are you inspired by? Reminds me a bit of burzum's earlier stuff. I'm currently working on a dungeon synth idea myself but I haven't found my sound yet. People laugh about casio keyboards but making good (and fresh) dungeon synth isn't that trivial actually.

But it's so fun! Unless the sample has shit timings but that too shouldn't be too hard to fix
What is hard is unquantized drums. I have to rerecord them dozens of times on my mpk mini 2. Frustrating and shitty results. But I guess I will get better

>DISCORD
/prodthread/ on discord.me

bump

random loop that was sitting in my desktop because bumping is sad
instaud.io/3EVq

becomes dissonant at around 2 mins, that crash is terrible and too loud, use a fuckload of reverb or replace it with a gong

that's exactly what causes my headaches

How do you guys stay creative and find inspiration?

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Meme of the day

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>latency issues all of a sudden
it was working fine last week I hate computers

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kinda gay but fun
I remember watching a tutorial which explained how to time a sample in fl. Basically cut every beat, align to the grid, stretch without alterning pitch
Done
Right now in renoise I'm just lucky to not have too big issues, or maybe I'm just ignoring them

What changed in your computer/setup?

weed lamo

gusic

instaud.io/3EZG
how is my loop

I have no idea what's going on with those drums, especially the claps. I sense no groove at all. I think a latin or African rhythm would make a lot more sense.

youtube.com/watch?v=pjME78xpF-M

Either that or put claps on beats 2 and 4.

I wanna buy a synthesizer. How is the microkorg? I'm a synth noob but have been playing music for years.

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Really more of a second synth; sounds nice but you can't see everything on that interface, you want something knob per function in general, but especially so if it's your first so you can learn everything with it right there

Are mobile apps acceptable here? I tried Rolling Tones for a while to jot down some tunes or draw simple beats based on visual inspiration, but my crap phone can't open the menu to save them. I've switched to nanoloop, but still like the format of Rolling Tones and would like to be able to copy some of the things I make in it if anyone knows a similarly designed program for pc.

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Thanks user. Yeah I fucking hate that cymbal, too. I can't get it to sustain cause it's a shitty short sample. Gonna fix up those drums too. Part of the "point" of dungeon synth is the kind of old-sounding synths, it's supposed to emulate old sword and sorcery kind of music, but it's not supposed to sound like total garbage and I agree that it does. I'll also fix the part around 2:09 cause that was part of what frustrated me. Using a normal sequencer instead of Finale like I usually use is annoying cause it's hard to look at the notes all in one view to harmonize them well.

Anyway glad it's not total arse. My inspiration was.... somewhere on YouTube. One of the first results if you search dungeon synth. Pic related is my current collection but I think I listened to some before that and just didn't save them. Would love to support these artists but a lot of them don't seem to have CDs.

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Favorite free distortions?

As for first synth microkorg is good choice. But it is an analog-modeling machine, so you can't do much with patches installed (just like on fully digital ones).If you concider making your own sounds and experimenting it's better to start eith something analogue. For instance Korg Monologue/Minilogue.

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camel crusher is god tier

the other day i plugged my bass into the interface and the interface monitoring into my 2.1 logitechs and dimed the interface channel so it distorted and it sounded cool.

He's the owner of a prod discord group that fell apart a few years ago.

>tfw too terrible and/or self-critical to come up with shit myself
>too disinterested in emulating someone elses sound for practice
what do i do bros?

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>what do i do bros?
stop being a raging fucking faggot
you learn by emulating other people, and "YoUrE OwN spEsHAl SoUNd" doesn't happen in a vacuum, it's the result of gathering multiple influences and assembling bits from everywhere in your own way

thanks user that was exactly what i needed (:

well in case that's not sarcasm, you're welcome

it's not. I lack the discipline to not be a raging fucking faggot

The Caretaker continues. As I were.

instaud.io/3F3x

...

Really harsh sound at times, I've got one myself and wouldn't get it again.