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Soler Edition
youtube.com/watch?v=SguYeOy-R_M

>General Folder #1. Renaissance up to 20th century/modern classical. Also contains a folder of live recordings/recitals by some outstanding performers.
mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
>General Folder #2. Mostly 20th century/modern with other assorted bits and pieces
mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
>General Folder #3. Renaissance up to early/mid-20th century. Also contains a folder of Scarlatti sonate and another live recording/recital folder.
mega.co.nz/#F!kMpkFSzL!diCUavpSn9B-pr-MfKnKdA
>General Folder #4. Renaissance up to late 19th century
mega.co.nz/#F!ekBFiCLD!spgz8Ij5G0SRH2JjXpnjLg
>General Folder #5. Very eclectic mix
mega.co.nz/#F!O8pj1ZiL!mAfQOneAAMlDlrgkqvzfEg
>General Folder #6. Deutsche Grammophon stuff. Also there's some other stuff in here.
mega.nz/#F!DlRSjQaS!SzxR-CUyK4AYPknI1LYgdg
>Renaissance Folder #1. Mass settings
mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA
>Renaissance Folder #2. Motets and madrigals (plus Leiden choirbooks)
mega.co.nz/#F!il5yBShJ!WPT0v8GwCAFdOaTYOLDA1g
>Debussy Folder.
mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
>Jewish Folder
mega.nz/#F!lk0lGSTQ!SAIvBwgyVF1EGEMUjranEw
>Opera Folder. Contains recorded video productions of about 10 well-known operas, with a bias towards late Romantic
mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw
>Book Folder #1. Random assortment of books on music theory and composition, music history etc.
mega.nz/#F!HsAVXT5C!AoFKwCXr4PJnrNg5KzDJjw
>Book Folder #2. Comprehensive list of the most important harpsichord and piano pieces through history
mega.nz/#F!1xJgVSLA!i2eLakjehx5DY8qYUzS0Zg

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Rameau
youtube.com/watch?v=kggtaWWs67A

Beethoven

youtube.com/watch?v=ZD1fTHDlvI4

>Teutonic-sounding

based and mozartpilled
twitter.com/995WCRB/status/1125847597271453696

I never really listened to my local classical radio. I wonder if I'm missing out

youtube.com/watch?v=90A8n1mDJSU
panufnik 2bh

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Classical radio stations are great for live and recorded concerts and operas and you don't have to pay anything. The rest of the program is rather meh, maybe one interesting feature about a composer and you might discover something new from time to time.

Not sure where else to ask this question.

I am trying to understand modes as applied to scales.

For example I am playing an "a harmonic minor" scale on piano which follows the notes: A B C D E F G#. There would be 7 modes of this scale, which use the same notes however START on a different note than the tonic.

The 7th note of the a harmonic scale is a G#, and the 7th mode is called Superlocrian or "altered" right? So the 7th mode of a harmonic minor would follow the notes G# A B C D E F

However when I look up "a harmonic minor Superlocrian" or "a harmonic minor altered" I am presented with a different scale. What am I missing here?

Buxtehude

youtube.com/watch?v=LvDfFcR5izY

Bach

youtube.com/watch?v=lMrvALtmMNY

Are Suzuki's Bach harpsichord works good?

yeah

give me a Spotify playlist that contains all the pieces i need to listen to to catch up with you pros. i have no experience listening to classical music outside of what i heard on tom and jerry

Scale nomenclature isn't nearly universal as of yet so just use whatever names you want. As musicians we use sounds, not mere words or names so what you call the scales is pretty much irrelevant as long as you know how to use them,

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There's literally tons of music in OP's post. Just give a listen to the various time periods and composers till you start to find out your tastes are. There's nothing to 'catch up' just music to listen to and enjoy.

Thoughts?

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youtube.com/watch?v=Qyx8NAbTD2M&t=1118s

Daily reminder that pre 20th century classical music is gay

as far as I can tell a lot of modern mode terminology is mostly invented by retarded guitarists. there's no formal system outside of the 7 main modes, so follow whatever naming convention you like. as an aside modes are worthless to study and do not aid in the understanding of harmony whatsoever unless you're studying medieval music or something.

They're used in modern jazz but even then it's mostly a sidetool

That would be one long fucking playlist

What's the best "Das Lied von der Erde" recording? Is Lenny's the reference?

youtube.com/watch?v=5pHTvK_qFGM

The modes are called by their starting/root pitch. It would have to be called g# superlocrian. Also, I’m not sure what you’re expecting to find by googling around. Nobody really does improvisations or compositions that are explicitly in these modes, and nobody really writes theoretically on them. Once you know what they are, that’s kind of it.

I'm a Haitink fan, so I can't give an unbiased opinion. It's a pure joy for everyone who doesn't like overdone interpretations. It's well balanced and nice music faithful to the score and not some metaphysical loud and slow shitfest.

Does anyone here have a keyboard? Mine is shitty but yesterday I played in one that has key press pressure sensitivity, and I am in love. I noted down its name but Im wondering if I can get even better deals. A synth maybe.

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My God that contralto is amazing ...better than Ferrier in this one

Sounds promising, I'm downloading it, thanks

Yes I have a bunch of keyboards. What was the name? What are you wondering about?

It was a Yamaha PSR E353.
The kind of music I gravitate towards uses a more classical approach to piano, hence the importance of key sensitivity, but I also enjoy oscillator drone and other weird shit of the kind. So Im wondering if there are any relatively affordable synths that would allow me to do both.

petzold

>not some metaphysical loud and slow shitfest.
OH NO NO NONONONONOyesyes

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Bach

youtu.be/-tS92wZMHQ0

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>Soler Edition

Never heard of him but that sounds great. very modern in my opinion.

Though I've been listening to classical for basically all my adult life, and though I always enjoy the dissonance of modernist composers, I don't really agree with its use in this Quartet:

youtu.be/YM9Gk1_ZEMU?t=1310

Maybe dissonance isn't the right term; i'm not all that familiar with music theory. It's just that the chord at 22:00 feels wrong for me, and I don't understand why the composer used it. I can't find the sheet online to take a look at it, but I dislike it, I feel like it would be a lot more beatiful if it was resolved. Am I the only one?

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Corelli

youtube.com/watch?v=3o8xU0uP7Qk

I absolutely love the music of Ralph Vaughan Williams and so should you:

youtu.be/ZR2JlDnT2l8

youtu.be/0U6sWqfrnTs

youtu.be/Ak85S5KZoKE

youtu.be/RQoP9iLwoos

dollar store Ravel

In your opinion, does this piece really sound like something composed by Bach?

youtube.com/watch?v=7yS-Ywu-xZU

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Enjoy

youtube.com/watch?v=WRpEt9FvTbU

Why would I when there's the music of Sibelius?

youtu.be/obcH1wyez-s
Kek

the constant thunder sound in the background is totally necessary

youtube.com/watch?v=VaF9Glf6yzk

yes

How long did it take you guys to stop being tourists? I get dizzy reading this thread, there's so much shit.

pfitzner

youtube.com/watch?v=dhTQHy8HdrQ

based and yoshipilled youtube.com/watch?v=Xp9zhpuRlUw

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Was it autism?

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he was just a seething boomer desu

sounds like an anime OST
shaking my baka desu

you have to be in a certain mood for yoshimatsu. he did start out as a more dissonant composer but later embraced the meme neo romanticism. his style is very recognizable to me at least youtube.com/watch?v=I2aaXK-4bww

I liked this one a lot. I agree that you sometimes have to be in a certain mood to enjoy some pieces/composers. I'll give the Memebird concerto another chance in the near future

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hard to tell with all that piano sustain

youtube.com/watch?v=NGbSnpUDxEQ lads i need more heavenly guitar/voice pieces....

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>early music
based. shall be listening after this holst piece i decided to give a try. thanks user

Zimmer

youtube.com/watch?v=Mk4lW-Mn6J8

Ossia Cadenza or nah

I am personally a proponent

isnt that the hot government girl in new york

I would obliterate her hot puerto rican socialist ass

His music is underrated. I can’t identify with his conservatism and elitism (or maybe I can, on second thought), but the great pieces are just that.

>Schoenberg would regularly shit himself
sometimes reality really is stranger than fiction...

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Ravel

youtube.com/watch?v=x1aYApmGCtk

Locatelli

youtube.com/watch?v=wsVowEZpQdg

Why yes I do exclusively listen to medieval music that Dante directly alluded to in his Divine Comedy, why do you ask?
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What are some other technical composers like him? In the sense of putting great emphasis on structure instead of focusing on expression.

Mozart

Saint-Saens' music is very expressive. The dichotomy between technique and expression is a false one.

youtube.com/watch?v=I50-fqV2WKo
bros how can memes sound so beautiful sometimes

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Who /Adès/ here?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=CANS1uiQCtg

Lol seriously ?
Sauce ?

Lots of composers use chords from alternate modes from the key they're in though
In fact people like Debussy wrote entire pieces in different modes than major/minor

Where does Dante mention these Litanies ?

Thank you OP.
Im loving that Fandando from Soler. Even got the partiture to play it a bit on the piano.

HERR
HERR
HERR
HERR
UNSER HERRSCHER

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>mfw I just downloaded 3 gb of .APE files from OP's links

nigga wtf

Lets play a game
Post your holy Trinities and we guess your IQ
I'll start

>Gesualdo
>Petzold
>Stravinsky

120-140 IQ probably

Strauss II
Korngold
Reich

Based Gesualdo poster.
Never heard of petzold though...

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Bartok
Mozart
Rameau

Mozart
Haydn
Vivaldi

Bach, J.S.
Bach, C.P.E.
Bach, J.C.

Josquin
Monteverdi
Beethoven

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Caring about your IQ knocks you down at least 30 points.

this would mean i have 0

Bach
Reger
Sorabji

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Paganini

youtube.com/watch?v=AbV3CxPpBkI

Chadanini

122

125

149

150

128

203

136

holy shit Schönberg's Pelleas and Melisande is really good, imagine he would stayed a Romantic baby during this whole career.

pet
zol
d

Wagner

youtube.com/watch?v=5HX_QcCwO-o

Handel
Haydn
Ives

Bull
Bull
Bruckner

Petzold
Pfitzner
______?

Cobra

bump

W*gner

Maximilian Cobra
Wim Winters
___________?

>Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata - Adagio Sostenuto - Historical Tempo Reconstruction - Wim Winters
I just forgot about him, I didn't need to be reminded about this youtube shitposter.

Byrd

youtube.com/watch?v=e6S73C_g_mg

Bach
Mozart
Beethoven

Monteverdi
Bach
Handel

Bach/Rilling

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Music exactly like this, but also good. The rest of the Jenkins' Requiem seems like garbage, but this piece is the best Dies Irae, third only to Mozart's and Verdi's, and really, the only Dies Iraes I know aside from those others that actually reflects the character of the lyrics.

wtf is that shit

youtu.be/4nAdVnAQ8n0

>MIIIIIIIIIIIISEEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEREEe

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no cursing please

It's great. Fuck you. I challenge you to find a better Dies Irae that isn't by Mozart or Verdi.

Purgatorio - 13.51
>In Purg. 13.50-51 Dante describes a group of "shades" crying "'Mary, pray for us!' then 'Michael' and 'Peter' and 'All the saints.'" This is the Litany of All Saints, perhaps the simplest bit of chanting in the entire Gregorian corpus, found in the Liber on pp. 1882-1884.
More here if you're interested
worldofdante.org/music.html

The first one
youtube.com/watch?v=Dlr90NLDp-0
Also this is cheating because it's the gregorian chant's tune, not the text but youtube.com/watch?v=7nVmFlSV1ok

Robert Schumann
youtube.com/watch?v=s_3A6Iu4ASk
youtube.com/watch?v=dp8KQCnOwcU

Dvorak's and Berlioz'
this whatever the fuck it's from youtube.com/watch?v=3Gx2cC19at8

Liszt
youtube.com/watch?v=TSpsgV7knHo

Schumman's

youtube.com/watch?v=ggxisPk1pf0

Oh, I meant part of the Requiem mass.

youtube.com/watch?v=noTNy2Lrs8U

Consider this one. It's a few steps above mediocrity, and completely fails to capture the style of the lyrics.

A very strong showing from Dvorak, at least initially. However, it smacks a bit too much of the opera, and fails to introduce any interesting ideas outside of the first thirty seconds.

>Berlioz
lol, a more overrated hack in romanticism can not be found, (Schumann is a close second, though), and at twelve fucking minutes? Why don't I just listen to a Liszt symphonic poem? First off, I totally fail to get impression that the earth will dissolve into ashes, as good and sweet, but not great as the music is. The trumpet section is impressive, (what Wager should sound like, but almost never does), but it seems like on-the-nose compensation for the third line, ("Tuba mirum spargens sonum," get it), to make up for the total disharmony between the first two stanzas and the music.

While this is very good as far as Berlioz goes, like most of his music, it's a handful of excellent and surprising effects, though with little unity, and far too diffuse for the ideas. Berlioz, however, is far better than Wagner and Liszt at "filler."

It's somewhat difficult to judge the third piece with such poor acoustics. Closely attending to the piece shows the words questionably lengthened to fit the melody, something we hear in Mozart, Verdi, or Jenkins, and I can't help but regard as a fault. The quote of the plainchant is cheap, derivative, and adds little to the piece's unity, (though a clever way to unite the two themes does provide somewhat of a decent climax).

However, I find the piece very promising, and I think more should have built upon the apex at 0:32 to 0:38.

Hans

>a more overrated hack in romanticism can not be found, (Schumann is a close second, though)
officially retarded, opinions discarded, further posts ignored

>Karl Jenkins
utter garbage, below OST levels

youtube.com/watch?v=1zDpIhVM3KY
First one is character of the piece again, doesn't quite fit the theme of the music. It's far more fitting for a Lacrimosa. Really, if Schumman wasn't going to fit the music to the character of the lyrics, he might as well have substitute a different set of lyrics. The work as a result, suffers from a lack of tonal variety, something that is certainly not present in Verdi's of Mozart's work.

Like the finale of Brahms' First Symphony, this piece, while not mediocre, ultimately reminds the listener of the very superior inspiration, (Mozart's Lacrimosa).

Verdi's Dies Irae, Mozart's, Jenkins', Dvorak's, the unknown piece from clearly capture the cataclysmic aspects of the lyrics. Schumann and Berlioz do not. To suggest that music should be independent of lyrics would be like saying that the lyrics in Schubert's songs should be switched around as long as the meter and rhythm were not affected.

However, I would say it's above mediocrity, and one can hear several parts that possibly influenced Brahms, but were put to better use by him.

see

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The only good movement of this otherwise overrated song
youtube.com/watch?v=vY6gKUgwRi0

>Song
OH NO NO NO NO

>strauss II
probably sub 100

Don't be a dork

faganini

Take the diffuse structures of Beethoven, the idiom of Schubert, and totally remove the arresting power and fire of the former, and the succulent tones and the touching, mellifluous of the latter, and you will get the works of Schumann. Really, I challenge anybody to find beauties in that composer that are original to him. He is really just Beethoven and Schubert, but worse. Maybe he occasionally imitates others, but like Agesilaus, I have "heard the nightingale itself."

did you mean bvll?

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Schumann is still aping Mozart's Lacrimosa, and it's obvious. He did little more to hide the clear imitation than change the name and the lyrics, making it less appropriate for the music.

The work has a strong opening, but the texture is quite weak, there is a lack of unity and direction, the imitation of Mozart is obvious, and very ineffective by comparison. The use of the brass is hardly fitting, and clashes with what is otherwise a consistently grave nature.

>song

Hello Hans

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What cannot be overstated is how fitly Jenkins captures the character of the setting, but adapts the melody to the meter of the poem, something Mozart could only partially manage. Other composers hardly make the attempt, and are satisfied with just writing a music which has the character of the poem, (or they don't even do that), and just adapt the lyrics to the melody.

So many of the Dies Iraes posted are clearly, clearly derivative of Mozart's Requiem, (Schumann perhaps thought he was perhaps clever in copying a different piece). Even Verdi's version, as excellent as it it is, it still derivative. Berlioz avoids this fault, but he does so by not even attempting the character which Mozart perfected, (and after perfection, all that is left is servile repetitions, forced conceits, or true innovation). Jekins here is not only excellent, but truly sui generis in his treatment of the setting, (at least in the Dies Irae).

Yes but it's also repetitive as fuck so why bother

True, this is a fault of the work, and it may be better shortened. Still, I find to be excellent, but too monotonous. The ideal Dies Irae would have the character of Janekins' Dies Irae, the variety, direction, and complexity of Mozart's, and effects of Verdi's, but this is perhaps attempting to amalgamate heteogenous qualities.

Weber

youtube.com/watch?v=O4zjOnYgTxQ

How many years roughly could it take to play some of Liszt's pieces? I am interested in learning piano, and do not expect to become a master. But after 5 years or so if I was still nowhere close that would be discouraging.

it would take you as many years as it takes for the average lisztfag to get better taste

>Sibelius
>Bruckner
>Mussorgsky

>*buzz buzz* *buzz buzz*
Uh oh, looks like Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach is calling. Will you pick up?

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Finally, I can ask him where his neck went

Great ! Thanks based user

BASED

> Bach is a bit overrated

I know I'm gonna get some flak for this but I wanna have a discussion about this :

So I think Bach is a bit overrated. Mainly because saying "Bach is the greatest composer" is basically the cheatcode to appear cultured.
Don't get me wrong, Bach was a genius of the highest order and I would definitely pick him as the greatest musical mind of the baroque era.
However, he was kind of a conservative composer, sticking to outdated forms and techniques, while his contemporaries (Haendel, Pergolesi) were evolving towards the simpler, clearer classical style (based on bithematic dialogic homophonic music instead of monothematic polyphony). His genius was to synthesize all of the european styles of his time and blend them into his music.

I'm really glad that Bach is part of the standard graded repertoire for basically any instrument but I also think that he tends to overshadows other great composers like Biber, Zelenka or Frescobaldi.

What's your opinion /classical/ ?

>x is overrated opinions

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Okay now my serious reply to
Bach's greatness is not inventing anything new but taking all these "outdated" forms and techniques to their most distilled form and highest level. Of course he was conservative and he was conservative as fuck and if you compare him to early classical era composers it's a bit pointless. Bach is one of a kind but you should write nice things about the underrated composers rather than diminish what Bach has done. So I'm all for the "Zelenka is underrated" train rather than the "Bach is overrated" camp.

It's mostly just a matter of opinion. There is definitely Bach worship, but it's doesn't seem as monomaniacal as Wagner fanatics and Bruckner cultists.

my wife's Bull

Perle
youtube.com/watch?v=CKaOa5Qzc-Q

Petzold

> You should write nice things about underrated composers

You're absolutely right. But I'm afraid that Zelenka is underrated doesn't produce the same effect as Bach is overrated.

Anyways, here's Biber's Missa Salisburgensis:
youtu.be/-IWpwbw6-So

Are there any classical pieces with this basic pulse (O and X same duration, latter is just emphasised louder/accented/staccato/etc beat)?:
XOOXOOXO

audio example:
youtube.com/watch?v=ur9cZDVLekI

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Terry Riley
youtube.com/watch?v=yNi0bukYRnA

Haha Bruckner cultists ? Is that really a thing ?
(Not dissing Bruckner by any means)

Yes, but they tend to be okay guys desu.

Adés
youtube.com/watch?v=Dupkwrm-ziY

>I'm afraid that Zelenka is underrated doesn't produce the same effect as Bach is overrated.
This is sadly true, negativism is just more effective in general.

Wow. I'm usually not a fan of contemporary classical music but I kinda like this.

Rameau
youtube.com/watch?v=_898XBHIJXo

What is the best recording of Beethoven's Symphony no3?

ask rameau anything

what is being dead like

did celibidache had severe autism?

maybe I'm not dead

Mozart

youtube.com/watch?v=W20E_-S6U0c

youtube.com/watch?v=chqTh-ZM8IA

maybe

osborne-conant.org/ladies.htm

youtube.com/watch?v=IOgPV1a0glA&t=680

>dragged along to a party
>music's clipping, far too loud, playlists are terrible indie rock, electronica/hiphop
>everyone's drinking, doing drugs, or having premarital intimacy with each other
>run to the toilet to puke
>tell them i just had too much to drink
>still feel disgusted after puking
>head down to the music room
>glare at one of the guys doing the music
>he moves away
>they're using spotify but it's good enough for my purposes
>queue up one of Jean-Baptiste Lully's ballet suites
>skip to the gigue
>show people how to dance properly and traditionally rather than decadently
>they laugh at me and call me awful names and shove me out the door
>get my headphones out my bag and queue up "Anima" by Sasu Ripatti
>walk home with my head down and tears stinging my eyes in the freezing cold night
>want to die
>...
>eventually reach my apartment entrance
>hear someone following me
>look back
>guy awkwardly comes up and says he followed me back from the party and he enjoys classical too and wants to show me his spotify playlist
>about to scream or run away or do self-defence but then catch sight of the playlist on his phone and stop and think
>smile at him and invite him in for a drink
>let him relax on the couch and bring him a drink
>talk for a bit about the composers' stormy music, eventually he passes out from the tranquillisers i laced the drink with
>undress him and use a trolley to get his body to the bathroom
>use my kit to dismember and sterilise the pieces
>dispose of all evidence carefully besides feeding some of the organ meat to my cats

youtube.com/watch?v=axyBoAFquqQ

That playlist's contents? The complete bog canon: from Bach, to Beethoven, to Brahms, to Schoenberg.

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how would a newbie get into classical? Where would I even start? I feel like I've been indulging in modern rock orchestras and it would be a disservice to myself if I didn't look at real orchestra. please help

What does "bog Canon" mean ?

dont bother

youtube.com/watch?v=Ehbar90jHz8
youtube.com/watch?v=_pPgagYnyxI
youtube.com/watch?v=bg-gLhGxpV8

then listen to bach's cantatas if you like first link, other mozart's piano concertos if you like second, other beethoven symphonies if you like third

imdb.com/title/tt0295884/
>Five young adults venture into a bog to excavate some German music. After a while they find that fugues that have been buried in the bog have risen from the dead and seek to bore them to tears one by one.

Just listen to any pieces by Mozart and find something you like.
youtube.com/channel/UCmeFxYk5BSbJGWN9OgTAIhw

So... Beethoven is boring ?

There's a concert for students in my city and I could get a ticket for 13€.
It's Mahler 2 conducted by Dudamel.
Should I go?

Go

Blessed post

Why do so many people say Beethoven wasn't a good melodist? Just parroting Stravinsky and Bernstein?

What was his fucking problem?

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youtube.com/watch?v=s-jtdKjzQaE

Mozart's melodies are worse to be fair

German music is based on sterile formalism covered in a paper-thin layer of hysterical trinkets: jigging, wailing, banging, etc.

Most German compositions would barely surpass the scope of your average bagatelle if you take away the redundant repetitions and the clamor of the orchestra. Except bagatelles are melodious for better of for worse, whereas tunes/melody are an abstract concept down in the bog. It almost has negative value.

It is a pseud meme
Melody is the most instant quality of music
If Beethoven was a bad melodist then it is pretty bizarre how every soul on this Earth knows at least 3 Beethoven melodies from memory

Well, Beethoven's emphasis was never on melody in itself per say, but what he could do with a theme.
The best example is his 11th piano sonata in which he exposes the most boring of themes and then isolates, transforms, augment, invert the motifs to create a masterpiece.
A motivic tour de force. And one of his most beloved sonatas as he himself acknowledge towards the end of his life (along with the appassionata and the hammerklavier).

of course

whats your fucking problem

> Most German compositions would barely surpass the scope of your average bagatelle if [...] the clamor of the orchestra.

Then how do you explain that beethoven's quartets are so highly regarded ?

What about Schubert ?

it's a meme you dip

Mozart

youtube.com/watch?v=G01r84qB2js

So Schubert's string quartet 14 and string quintet have been a meme for 200 years ?
Sure buddy

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i'm saying the guy you are responding to is making a meme, and you shouldn't take him seriously

Ah ok, sorry

Antonio Vivaldi
Bach
Tchaikovsky

sub 60 IQ

Mozart
Chopin
Bizet

sub 20 IQ

How come the *nglos produced this musical genius?

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purely by chance

Shit happens

Dudameme lol, of course go and get the tickets asap
>Munich Philharmonic Orchestra
oh fuck, run, run away as fast as you can or the ghost of Celibidache will haunt you

Rossini

youtube.com/watch?v=5lZWy_yxw4M

This dude.
what was his fucking problem

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110 - 120 for you.

>J.S. Bach
>Webern
>Beethoven

That's not really a bad thing

>what was his fucking problem
His only problem was not writing more works like Kya, Hurqualia, Aion, Khoom, Chukrum, Uaxuctum and Konx-Om-Pax

For what you seem to be looking for, unironically the Dies Irae from Death Note
youtube.com/watch?v=Cx5rsqfJ1-w

>annie may OST
even lower than movie AND videogame OSTs (somehow still better than that embarrassing piece of shit by Jenkins)

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Rank the Mahler symphonies
My opinion:
2>1>6>9>5>8>4>7>3

Is Albert Dietrich worth it or is he just a NPC in the background of the Schumann-Brahms era

3=6=7>8=9>4=5>2=1

Reddit: the post

Reddit: the reply

youtube.com/watch?v=C78HBp-Youk
based

9>2>8.5(Lied von der Erde)>3>1>4>10>7>6>5>8

cringe(this means downvote)

>10
come on, now you're just dunking on 5 through 8.

I agree with the first three though for sure

Mahler dabbed on his own 1st symphony by including that sarcastic passage in the last few minutes of the finale. Would've been a perfect ending without those trumpet trills.

Someone please recommend me music by living composers. It's hard to find good stuff

How anyone can imply that Mahler's sixth is not his best is beyond me

>living composers

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Would you agree that single women who listen to classical music would be more likely to make better wives than those that listen to nigger music?

whoaaa
johhny sins can do that?

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nice grammer

REX
REX
REX
REX TREMENDAE MAJESTATIS

also that's one too many Herrs

no, otherwise nigger music lovers wouldn't breed so many sadly healthy children who even more sadly reach adulthood

Oh shit no it's not.
Don't I look stupid now

I sometimes get depressed listening to stuff by people who have been dead for centuries or at least decades, don't judge.

And then I get even more depressed because I just saw a Matthias Pintscher performance that crirics liked but sucked ass

Yeah. That doesn't mean that I think every woman that listens to classical music would be a good wife, just that I think every woman who listens to nigger music would be a bad one.

>don't judge.
Sorry, I already had by the time I read this. My judgement is that it's a really stupid thing to get depressed about, and that all of the best, great, good and above-mediocre composers of all time had already been dead by the time you were born, so either suck it up or listen to pop music.

I heard a snippet of The Exterminating Angel like 1-2 years ago and have been waiting for a fucking release of it ever since. I kind of enjoy that violin piece he did (was it a concerto?) but don't don't especially care for much else he's done

Do you avoid jerking off to dead pornstars too?

Chriiiiiiiiiste, Christe - eleieeeeeson eleieeeeeeson,

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The only pornstar I jerk off to is the one that killer herself a few years ago, otherwise it's all retro funky bushy nightmares littered with sudden closeups of the men's faces as they cum and I'm really not into that

I got into it with Schostakovich and Beethoven symphonies and string quartets. And after seeing a Wagner opera live (it was Lohengrin) it just developed on its own.

There's a lot of stuff that's basically "canon" now where you can't really go wrong. Just go to concerts if you can and listen to anything you can get a hold of.

>The only dead* pornstar
I meant

>I sometimes get depressed listening to stuff by people who have been dead for centuries or at least decades
I can relate to this feel, maybe it is a zoomer thing?
Sometimes i just need to listen to the music of someone who is alive
But i dont really listen to Contemporary Classical when this happens

youtube.com/watch?v=X21CZn5ywyM
10/10

>maybe it is a zoomer thing?
No, it's a retard thing

youtube.com/watch?v=kL9WRv75qpM

Sorry for being young

>Sorry for being retarded
not your fault

Boomer """''''''''humor"""''"''"

>he actually thinks this is an age thing
what a fucking retard you are, thank fuck you're a namefag

So what you're saying is classical music is basically dead and it's just about preserving the classics, until the geriatrics who comprise 80% of the audience die out. And then we'll still have Furtwängler recordings, aren't we lucky? Because what can we hope to expect from the future anyway?

I love and cherish a lot of music that was created by people who are long dead, trust me. Otherwise I wouldn't be here. But those composers were great because they actually MADE music instead of just preserving older stuff. I don't expect to find another Beethoven, but I actually want to know what people I could theoretically talk to or punch in the face can come up with. I'm convinced there's good stuff, but critics are just so garbage that they hail every guy farting into a trombone a "deconstructive genius using timbre to create haptic soundscapes" or some shit, which of course means 90% of the contemporary music that has visibility is just trash.

/rant over, go fuck yourself

Chill bro

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see

Mozart

youtu.be/3d07r_E_8Pc

Yep the classic fantasia in Re menor

Paganini

youtube.com/watch?v=OKNXIL56dV0

please respond

What the fuck was his problem?

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you

>With the exception of his Smetana journal, [Nejedlý] turned away from mainstream journal publications, focusing on [...] his own political journal, Var [...]; the last issue of Var was taken up with a detailed defense of Alban Berg's opera Wozzeck
He's alright by me

>the last issue of Var was taken up with a detailed defense of Alban Berg's opera Wozzeck
So based.

I didn't know the modes had their own tribes
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locrians
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorians
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolians
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionians

I hate Dudamel his whole schtick is infuriating. Oh so trendy millennial look at me and my afro and monkey face oh I help underprivileged children oh God I'm a saint and a classical music superstar with a cute waifu.
Fuck. Him. Karajan no.2

he's divorced

Good.

He upgraded. That manlet hack is fucking Maria Valverde.

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Basado Dudamel

Good headphones for classical? I am no audiophile but I was thinking perhaps some mid range studio monitors? I probably should have asked this on /hpg/ but those guys are fags.

I use some open back Sennheisers and I enjoy the veil and subdued highs

I had the opportunity to see the Exterminating Angel as a broadcast just last year. It was excellent. The third act is truly brilliant.

Bruckner

youtube.com/watch?v=fqr9WTChUvk

hd600 are the gold standard

It’s not really a great thing. The only real differentiating factor is the influence of the British naturalist composers.

...

Lets be honest he is good conductor

Even more important in the landscape off contemporary classical music, he’s fun to watch and he’s a name that can move tickets.

he was in love with the biggest art whore that ever lived

How horrifying

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this is what women do to music/art in general

I haven't been in this and the last two threads, can someone update me?

Glen Ghoul confessed to having sex with his own mother. It was decided again, after arduous debate, Corelli is the greatest composer who ever lived.

Ok, nothing surprising to me. There is something more I should know?

youtube.com/watch?v=nAmX15ZyOn0&t=1410s

Petzold

"You have one second to rank Brahms' symphonies!"

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3>4>1>2

>3>4

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4>3>2>1

petzold

German Requiem > symphonies

SATANA
SATANA
SATANA
SATANA

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KREUZIGE
KREUZIGE
KREUZIGE

JESUM
JESUM
JESUM VON NAAZARETH
JESUM VON NAAAZARETH
JESUM VON NAAZARETH

Is this record a metaphysical loud and slow shitfest? Love that shit.

It is a Zenpilled record

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cuck philosophy

Glen Ghoul confessed to being a zoomer and I suspect he's underage

>Stravinsky
>Debussy
>Shostakovich

lame and bluepilled

Shut the fuck up weeaboo

youtube.com/watch?v=ApdYpaPamMs
here you go senpai

Sub 5 IQ
Likes catchy pretty melodies and loud dramatic brass

:(

Handel
Bach
Schubert

..said a person from a country that had no composers ever

Ross dressed like a gang biker from the 70s

:/

:)

:3

Any recommended affordable digital pianos?

New edition