A well regulated milita, being necessary to the security of a free state...

>necessary
Idgaf, kys

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we don't need malitia's. They're for thrid-world with dubious democratic insitutions.

If someone has been let out of prison, they should be able to excercise all rights including voting and keep/bear arms.

Some states unconstitionally ban felons who aren't on probabtion from owning firearms whilst others don't ban them.

Unconstituonal laws do not have to be followed.

Where does this militia meet? What regulations are they under?

Oh, so you admit you're "weak on crime".

You aren't the authority on nor do you know what everyone objectively needs.

I have the god given right to form and partake in a milita, the 2A protects that right from infringement and so your opinion isn't needed.

I'm simply stating a person has constitutional rights that must not be infringed upon so long as they are no longer on probation or in prison.

This is a simple application of the 13th amendment.

again you're fantasizing about a group of low iq mouth-breathers LARPing as GI Joe standing a chance against a modern, western army.

You just made an objectively wrong claim, you can't claim what I think.

Further, plenty of former and enlisted members of the military are in militas.

>he actually thinks boot ass grunts wouldn't be on the side of the people
Have you never talked to a solider in your life? I've ran into more conspiracy nutts in the army than I have on /pol/.

You gave a fuck enough to reply.

the second amendment doesn't come from god. it was written by men. Rights are not inherent they are entirely contingent.

>"the people"
you don't get to claim that phrase for your fringe beliefs.

God given means natural to all human beings.

It is of the opinion that all humans have inherent rights that should not be infringed upon.

God given does not mean literally given by God, but plenty of people do find their own religion may line up with the concept of uninfringable rights.

Further, the Second Amendment doesn't give me the right to keep and bear arms.

It protects my God given right to keep and bear arms from government infringement.

As if the 1st world "democratic" institutions are any better lol take it from someone who stays in a 1st World nation. Your right to freedom of speech and your right to arm yourself against people who aim to take away your rights is truly an envious thing. Ffs people can get charged and brought to court for being mean on Xbox live.

As a Germanon, I envy your 2nd Amendment.

The German government isn't far from the Nazi government.
Sure, policies have changed but the people taking over in major positions, more often than not, need to know people in power.

Therefore, the attitude of authoritarianism has continued to thrive within the German government.

most of those "larpers" train more often than police or the military

absolutely true.

yeah..... they look really competent

>They're for thrid-world with dubious democratic insitutions.
what do you think america has become?

lol. you aren't at the ranges or training then

rights are contingent and historically situated. they don't come from god and are not "natural". an awful lot of history and development went into the founding fathers being able to proclaim universal rights.

And apparently libshits can not understand that tyrants want to oppress and not kill. If they nuke everyone there will be no one for them to oppress and enslave

That's because you only see the "bad" looking ones you like to make fun of on Reddit by people with a bias against guns.

There are many militas you'll never see.

Even the fat bad looking militas are more capable than plenty of people includinf the police.

As I said, the concept of God given rights is a BELIEF.

The founding fathers believed people had those rights and the METHOD in which they PROTECTED those rights when forming a government was inspired by other laws.

1911's are increadibly comp-licated and have a million parts. Glocks are much simpler having maybe 12

Glocks are too complicated and have maybe 12 parts.

Makarovs are much simpler having maybe 4 parts.

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In all seriousness, I love Glocks.
I own a Glock 17, it was the first gun I bought when I moved to the USA.

I also have a Makarov that I use when I'm wearing a suit.

We're you not paying attention last January when a bunch of UNARMED rednecks almost toppled our government? If even 1/4 of them had been armed that day the God-Emperor would still be in office.

>A well regulated milita, being necessary to the security of a free state
Does this assumption still hold up given that we ignored Washington's advice and set up a standing army?

Also, do overweight gun nuts in red states really qualify as 'a well regulated militia'?

WELL REGULATED - not a bunch of idiots running around with assault rifles.

The abiltiy to form/join a milita as well as keep and bear arms is independent of us having a standing army.

Washington was against it then after the war decided it was necessary.

Learn the basics of Constitutional Law.

The problem is the people that want guns are the ones that shouldn't have them and the people that don't are the ones that should. Regardless its never going to work its the never ending shit show that is life.

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Well regulated means well functioning, well armed, well trained, etc.

Being overweight does not mean you are not well regulated nor does it take away your rights.

Wrong. Ironically the people who are against guns are the ones you need to keep guns away from.

Plenty of people both left and right want and have guns.

Future depotic leaders might have to watch their back, though.

Define "assault rifle".

The "A" in AR stands for Armalite, not "assault" and they're carbines. There is no such thing as "assault rifles" as a class of weapon and the fact that you know this little about firearms means your opinion is entirely uninformed and has no place in an informed discussion on the topic.

It's being infringed and you won't do shit about it

> (,)

The coma is the only thing protecting your gun rights. Let that sink in.

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The letter F is the only thing protecting my right to free speech. Let that sink in.

Which, if you spoke English, you’d know doesn’t give you the right to own any gun you want, as many as you want, to do anything you want with.

Look into the history of the religious wars in England to understand how an obligation to be armed in the event you were conscripted came to a right to remain armed in case you were beset upon.

It has nothing to do with self defense _in general_. Nor does it mean you have the right to actually shoot anyone.

Strawman.

Further, my masters degree thesis was on British and American Constitutional law.

From what I've said, make a coherent argument against me and I'll refute it.

>Look into ... England
We actually had a war about whether or not England mattered to American law. You lost.

God damn, shut him up.

"God" has nothing to do with it, sonnyboy