Ironic lolicons delusional behavior and mental gymnastics can be explained by POCD, pedophile obsessive compulsive disorder, in which one experiences constant and reoccurring thoughts that they may potentially be a pedophile
Sufferers need constant "reassurance" to confirm or deny their obsession, of course masturbting to cartoons of children could cause quite a bit of cognitive dissonance, which is why they feel the need to circlejerk with each other in lolicon "spaces" and incessantly sperg out about "muh pedos" in every thread, its a way for them to not only have a superiority complex, but to distance themselves from their fear
This is a common occurrence among lolicons, and may explain their erratic behaviour
So if you see a lolicon coping, don't reply to them, they are suffering from a disease and you'll only exacerbate their symptoms
Ironic lolicons delusional behavior and mental gymnastics can be explained by POCD...
Wow, imagine being such a faggot that you can't admit little girls are desirable.
What happens when an adult woman doesn't really develop breasts? A significant minority of women have A cup breasts too which are smaller than even the stage 4 on the picture. For me breast size doesn't have any impact on a woman's overall attraction, I prefer ass and hips. Although I do like big tits and paizuri as well.
Thats beside the point, flat chest are one of many characteristics present in both children and depictions of them
How do you explain oppai loli then?
That's irrelevant
Plenty of female humans can reproduce before their breasts are fully developed.
How is it irrelevant? The OP is implying that pedophiles are attracted to specific traits. If someone gets off to loli and then jerks off to MILF next, there's no clear specific trait. There's even a genre that includes both MILF and loli together called Oyakodon.
Lolis are depictions of children, the image demonstrates a similarity in body type
Oppai is irrelevant here
Except not all lolis have the same characteristics. Some are drawn with realistic proportions while many others are drawn with exaggerated hips that children don't have, or in the case of oppai loli they have large breasts. It's completely relevant to the point you're making. It also doesn't explain those who like both loli and normal proportions.
Explain how it isn't relevant instead of just saying it isn't.
>Some are drawn with realistic proportions
Which is what the image is referring to
And some are not. That's the bit he's saying is relevant and you're disregarding it entirely because it doesn't fit your little spiel.
Except not all or even most of them are, so why would you try to put everyone under an umbrella? It also doesn't explain those who like loli but prefer normal proportions. One step into the JP art community and you will see artists who draw massive tits one day and then loli the next.
>And some are not
Then they are not the ones being referred to
>so why would you try to put everyone under an umbrella
I never did that
Your entire OP is attacking "ironic lolicons" for distancing themselves from true pedos who only find child-like proportions attractive. What is that other than trying to jam them into the same category?
So you're saying none of the ironic mental gymnastics folks find oppai or birthin' hips lolis attractive?
>true pedos who only find child-like proportions attractive
The image implies said ironic lolicons find such proportions attractive as well but as it clashes with their preconceived notions of themselves they must find an excuse around it
I said nothing of the sort
Can't speak for others but I'm a hip/ass man, I don't feel anything from breasts whether it's loli or not, although I do like tits and stuff like paizuri. It just isn't as important as ass or especially hips. And you still haven't explained those lolicons who like oppai loli.
>And you still haven't explained those lolicons who like oppai loli.
My point didn't adress anything of the sort
Then I guess I just don't understand what point you're trying to make or we have different criteria for what makes someone an actual pedophile.
>chooses to focus on only the features thar support my argument
we're done here lmao. I guess all the lolis with developed hips, or even fantasy featurea just don't count, either?
My point has nothing to do with oppai loli or exaggerated hips, you're deflecting
The argument is referring to ironic lolicons in regards to "realistic" child proportions, im not adressing anything else because it is irrelevant
>lolis with developed hips
then it's not loli you fucking idiot
Oppai loli completely go against your argument because they are features that no child has. You're the one deflecting by completely dismissing everything that doesn't fit into your box.
I'm not referring to oppai loli nor its fans, because you're right, no child has tits therefore its irrelevant to my point
nice deflection
You're not the one who defines what a loli is or isn't bozo.
because "no its not pedophilia because muh big tits" makes sense, but "its not pedophilia even though it's an accurate depiction of child proportions" is retard cope
>ironic lolicons who cope about true loli are retards
>b-BUT WHAT ABOUT MUH LOLIS WITH TITS AND DICKS AND HORNS
disingenuous whataboutism, kill yourself
But oppai loli...are just lolis with boobs. And again a lot of the people who draw/like it also like loli and normal stuff too. That's very different than someone who literally cannot get off unless they look like a real child. In the same way a gay man cannot get aroused by women.
Your point?
The entire argument is disingenuous then since it's an argument about what constitutes loli or pedophilia.
>this fucking moron
Ok autist, then lolis with muh accurate child anatomy
Everything else is irrelevant since it diverges from pedophilia, obviously liking double DDs isn't pedophilia you coping nigger
literally all of splatoon is squid lolis with hips you goober fuck
Irrelevant whataboutism
Then I'm not referring to them you deflecting retard
That's putting everything under the same umbrella then. It's like furries who are actual zoophiles and like "feral" shit and then using that as an example to call all furries zoophiles when most only like more anthropomorphic types. There's clearly a difference of opinion and preferences within communities.
>I said nothing of the sort
Then why do you disregard them from the argument? Is it because it clearly ruins your thesis?
>That's putting everything under the same umbrella then
I'm literally doing the opposite you fucking idiot
True loli is the "feral", anything else is not what I'm addressing
Because I'm specifically referring to CHILD lolis, which leaves a lot less room for cope as other things, you dense fucking idiot
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Except you're assuming that the "ironic lolicons" distancing themselves from pedos are the ones looking at realistic stuff and not the plethora of other loli shit that exaggerates proportions for some reason. Hence you're putting them under an umbrella.
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>Except you're assuming that the "ironic lolicons" distancing themselves from pedos are the ones looking at realistic stuff
I'm referring to the ones that DO do that
>and not the plethora of other loli shit that exaggerates proportions for some reason
I'm not addressing them, as their arguments are actually fair and not complete cope, obviously liking double DDs is not pedophilia
Are you retarded on purpose?
>everything else is irrelevant
No it isn't, because it all falls under lolicon. Most lolis have some form of exaggerated features whether it's hips, ass or breasts. You're literally just pretending it doesn't exist because it doesn't fit your narrative.
>muh semantics
Again, I'm not referring to "unrealistic" lolicons, the argument is addressing ironic lolicons into "realistic" stuff
You whataboutism has nothing to do with my point
>hips, ass or breasts
lolis don't have breasts at all you complete fucking retard
They often do though, unless you're some kind of cunny purist who wants to define loli as only those with realistic proportions when that's not what anyone does.
>They often do though
Then you're talking about hebeshit you dumb tourist
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>liking yaoi is gay
>BUT WHAT ABOUT YAOI WITH TITS AND PUSSY
Now do you see how fucking stupid you sound
literal false equivalnce
Cartoons are and will always be inherently different from a subjective depiction. Regardless of why one person might consume it, the ambiguity of appreciation will always be more of a factor of consumption than any single reason. Kids and reproduction go hand in hand, and being that reproduction is one our most core functions, it's likely the ambiguity in lolicon art consumption comes from more than just the urge to fuck kids. Many people have 0 urge to have sex with kids, but did stuff when they were little and want to work that out. You can't exactly tell people they should feel bad about how they felt when they were little.
No Japanese uses the fucking term "hebe" retard. I'm going by what any reasonable person in the actual Eastern community defines as a loli, not some autist on Yea Forums.
Cope retard
Yeah, they use JC newfag
Come back to me when men are known to naturally grow vaginas and breasts.
Cartoons can't grow anything so stfu
>see loli thread
>post "hebe" with barely perking tits
>banned for posting off-topic
I want to see this happen lmao
A JC can still be a loli retard. In fact you'll find doujin that use both words together.
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Faggots who cope about non oppai non hebe prepubescent lolis are retards
There, is that better faggot?
>alien scifi is dumb
>BUT NOT ALL SCIFI HAS ALIENS I BET YOU FEEL STUPID NOW
In the context of Yea Forums loli threads, where realistic loli is often the bulk of posts, im referring to ironic lolicons coping in that regard, "muh oppai loli" is rarely posted
Dumb false equivalence. It would be more like someone who likes a certain brand of sci-fi but hates sci-fi with aliens and refuses to watch alien sci-fi.
Loli in this argument refers to true loli, not the dozens of other variations
You're intentionally being disingenuous and bringing up irrelevant examples
That's because only the purist lolicons come to Yea Forums and usually specifically so that they can post cunny. Of course cunny purists get mad because "ironic lolicons" prefer lolis with hips and ass.
no off topic threads on Yea Forums newfag
>Of course cunny purists get mad because "ironic lolicons" prefer lolis with hips and ass.
Then why do they stick around and defend "purist" loli as if they're not pedos for enjoying it?
How do you know the ones bitching about pedos are the one who like true loli or exaggerate shit?
I'm not, I'm talking about the ones who specifically enjoy depictions of children and then cope about it
if yaoi enjoyers liked yaois with horns and tits then they wouldn't go to the "true yaoi" thread and bitch
I never defended that, though. I just pointed out that there's no strict definition of loli and that people have different preferences while OP implies the ones complaining about pedos are the ones also consuming realistic proportions.
>the ones complaining about pedos are the ones also consuming realistic proportions
I'm specifically referring to them, yes
So what you're saying is you're ignoring a huge chunk of the people you're attempting call out. I don't know if you've noticed this or not, but a whole lot of the lolis posted here have pretty womanly curves. These are not child like asses, but they're pretty typical of what get posted.
Except breasts aren't something that's associated with men, it doesn't make any sense. Drawing some loli with a cute anime face but exaggerated proportions to make her attractive can appeal to some people. Not much different to short stack to be honest.
>Not much different to short stack to be honest.
Exactly you fucking idiot
>ignoring a huge chunk of the people you're attempting call out
Again, not calling out those who like "muh loli with tits and ass", you're being disingenuous
>These are not child like asses
Right, which is why I'm not referring to that
Then I don't understand what point you're making, most of the "ironic lolicons" who complain about pedos are the ones who like lolis with slightly exaggerated features. The ones who only jerk off to realistic looking shit but complain about muh pedos are such a small group of people that it's not worth talking about.
But I already know you're just trying to group all of those people together and call them hypocrites, there would be no point in making this thread otherwise. You might as well make a thread attacking furries and trying to claim they're all zoophiles.
Again, I'm not referring to those retard
I'm talking about the ones who jerk off to depictions of children then cope about muh pedos
You've clearly not lurked enough, you'll see shit like this all the time on places like ATF
I don't see ironic lolicons deflecting about muh oppai lolis, they talk about realistic lolis and nitpick to cope
>But I already know you're just trying to group all of those people together
In specifically saying that I'm NOT referring to those people you fucking idiot
*anime characters with wide hips, curves, an age which doesn't mean shit in fiction, big eyes, wild hair colors, and small tits*
"look like real children"
gtfo.
You are the one being disingenuous. A fault in your argument was pointed out and instead of actually addressing it you said it was irrelevant. Then you changed your argument to one that does not actually fully reflect reality. The umbrella of what is loli is larger than you are allowing and you're being called out on that bullshit.
This is the exact opposite of what I'm referring to though, you're arguing with yourself