>rock and roll is supposed to be the music of the people
>the pioneers of rock in the 50s were all hicks from the South and Midwest
>the rock that gets applause from critics is all made by upper middle class soi hipsters and genres like metal with an actual working class following are shit on
Intriguing.
Rock and roll is supposed to be the music of the people
well duh, critics are usually upper/middle class hipsters so they like artsier music made by upper class people
"Music critics like Elvis Costello because music critics look like Elvis Costello." - David Lee Roth
It goes back to the 60s. The American rock groups from that time were all from wealthy backgrounds. The Doors, the Dead, Airplane, David Crosby. None of these guys were working class, they were effete yuppies from California. The first such band to have a real working class background was Grand Funk Railroad and you can see what was said about them.
>genres like metal
>an actual working class following
lmao what
metal is for middle class white kids
Today metalfags are mostly nerds though, they're not 80s metalheads who were biker/leather jacket types.
Also gay
Poor people are poor because they are stupid
Naturally stupid people like things that aren't good
Punk and even some(emphasis on the some) of indie rock is definitely from a working class background with a working class following. And any rock genre that Borrows from folk, country and blues heavily like southern rock usually has working class fan base. OP does make an interesting point though. Most critics definitely have a bias towards music from upper class shit that’s Vaguely “artistic”. I would guess it has something to do with cultural hegemony.
>pic related
In Britain maybe that was true. The '77 punks were working class but punk in the US has always been the music of postmodernist art majors.
In my experience(the American south but not the Deep South) these are both true to some extent. There’s definitely noticeable differences in who likes what band though. The middle class nerd probably listens to tech-death while learning to code and the redneck is probably listening to pantera while tailgating.
The critics loathed, loathed, loathed Grand Funk Railroad back in the day.
It's all so tiresome
>biker leather jacket = white working class
peak söy
postmodernism is the ultimate bourgeoisie art form
Of say hardcore punk in the US stayed true to its roots but everything else got recuperated to hell
The critics not wrong but there has to be a way of saying that, that isn’t incredibly pretentious. You could just say “Kurt Cobain was aware that his protests against the music industry were becoming marketing for that industry”. Less is more
>In Britain maybe that was true
partially true, I'd say UK punk started out working class with bands like Sex Pistols and Buzzcocks but the movement dissipated by the end of the 70s and all the working class punks turned to stuff like Oi! while middle class artsy types turned to post-punk/new wave
>but punk in the US has always been the music of postmodernist art majors
also partially true, US punk kinda started out with art majors like Pere Ubu, Television, Talking Heads, No Wave (exceptions being bands like Ramones) but you're forgetting later developments like hardcore punk which was definitely American working class punk
what's wrong with costello ?
This. If I had to explain the concept of “recuperation” I’d just talk about the history of punk.
For a lot of rock critics (the first generation guys like Christgau, maybe less so younger ones), rock was tied to rebellion and revolution, and that rebellion was also closely tied to black music.
Brevity is the unsoulness of wit
Can anyone recommend some lower class indie?
It’s not exactly indie but southern sludge metal is definitely working class
unless they're from atlanta
simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication.
it is brevity without substance that is the true bane of wit.
ITT: Boomer idiots think AC/DC and KISS were real rawk not like that pussy hipster crap like MBV and the Pixies
that's because poorfags aren't people