Beginner choice

This. I bought a $450 telecaster from that range and I love it to death. I liked it better than all the MIM Fenders they had in the store.

This one would work fine, but if you're willing to invest a little more money, a $200 to $300 guitar would be good for beginning. Not so shitty that it makes you hate playing, not to fancy that you become a spoiled bitch. Either Squire or Ibanez should do the trick as well.

It's fucking huge. The tolerances involved in guitars are small as all fuck such that even a $1000 guitar can be a piece of shit because the neck is slightly more sensitive to humidity changes and bows just a little too dramatically, or because the headstock was designed by retards and needs a special nut for the strings not to bind and fall out of tune, which does not come with the guitar for some reason (coughgibsoncough).

Itll work but expect chinese QC, meaning you could get a piece of shit.

You could pay 100 for a guitar and 100-200 for a luthier to set it up and level the frets, or buy a 300 foreignerbux guitar, still made in china, and pay a luthier 100-200 foreignerbux anyways

Personally I'd go with something with a multi-piece neck since they're more stable despite the loss of presitge when they aren't made of 11 pieces of distinct species of ebony or somefuck. Save up your cash for a cheap ibanez or schecter. The koreans and indonesians make some good shit, the chinese, well, I played 5 different chinese squier strats in a store and 3 of them had at least one string buzzing in either the nut or the bridge.

who was the band that famously played this guitar with the brit flag

don't cheap out on your amp though

also tubes are a fucking meme, nobody can hear the difference between quality (read: not a shitty practice amp) solid state amplifiers and meme tubes. digital amp modelers prove this by replicating the sound of tube amps so you're not just hearing the difference between two different amp designs.

even speaker cabinets can be accuractely simulated. don't fall for the analog gear meme. it's overpriced shit for vintage electronics nerds, better buy a $200 boss katana than a $1000 EVH 5150.

Noel Gallagher? He had an Epiphone with Union Jack on it, but IIRC he only used it once. Still pretty famous for it though, must have been a big gig.

Fender GT40 or Yamaha THR10?

depends on what you're trying to do but the yamaha at least has a 3 band EQ so you can't be conned into buying an overpriced EQ pedal

>$15 circuit
>yeah that'll be $150 pal

but get the THR10x, you always want more gain

Yamaha amp
Yamaha guitar

youtube.com/watch?v=Vr7NQHrLQxY

Yamaha is the most underrated guitar brand. They're not a household name in guitars so they have to compensate by being good, unlike some companies (coughgibsoncoughfendercough)

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Thanks and mostly lower volume bedroom playing, just looking for the best all rounder I guess. I hear that it's also okay for bass.

Which guitars?
I'm trying to decide if I should learn bass or guitar first.

I was leaning towards just buying a MIM fender strat since everyone says it's a pretty safe buy, also it has the brand allure along with a bunch of spare parts on websites etc and yamaha doesn't really have that.

shittier guitars are literally harder to play.
Typically shitty built, have high action. You'll hate it. The difference between a Walmart skateboard and a real board. Little things are huge in the beginning.

some would say that starting on a shitty guitar tests your drive. If you drop it after getting to barre chords or some of the other early roadblocks, at least you didn't spend a thousand.

EVERYTHING I DON'T LIKE IS A MEME!!!!!!!!

Yamaha amps are terribly overpriced. Seriously $300 USD for a 2x3 little baby amp? For that much I can buy a "real" amp. If you want a cheap practice modelling amp just look on craigslist for a Vox Valvetronix. You can find them ridiculously cheap and it sounds like a "real" amp.

Yamaha guitars on the other hand are pretty good but I personally prefer other brands. Though for a beginner I'd say Pacifica is up there. Along with Ibanez Gio and Epiphone Les Paul.

what makes vox a real amp

It's a regular sized amp that you could gig with if you wanted. And actually sounds good.

There is, but I'd still recommend going with the $50 guitar if you're starting out. I still have a shitty Yamaha acoustic that I learned to play on 12 years ago. It's outlasted two other acoustics and sounds fine with decent strings. If you're not a pro, don't waste money of top-class gear.

is it worth getting this for low volume stuff in my first year or two though?

it's loud and only sounds good loud so hearing loss is guaranteed

the popularity of 20w, 15w, 10w, etc amps is because they sound like a cranked amp at 95db instead of 115db.

>y-you can gig with it bro...
you're not playing gigs without 5 years of experience and right now nobody is gigging by cranking up the volume on their amplifier. when you play a gig you either put a microphone in front of the speaker cabinet, or play into an amplifier head which runs into a loadbox/cab sim that then runs into the mixing equipment and PA system. the days of muh cranked marshall half stacks are pretty much gone.

Yes they have a built in attenuator and headphone out sounds about as good as through the speaker. Unlike my Marshall Valvestate which sounds like dog shit through the headphones.

None of this fucking matters. The guitarist in my first band, a shitty metal band, literally played a first act and our drummer had a cheap electronic drum kit. My microphone (I was the vocalist) was a 20 dollar mic from radio shack. None of it mattered because we were all really passionate about heavy music and we just wanted to make something. I have nice equipment now, but none of that mattered in the beginning because we were driven.

Quit going by what YouTubers like CSGuitars say, but anyway my Vox Valvetronix is only 30 watts dipshit. Sounds good too, even when it's quiet. Quit pretending you always know what you're talking about.
Yeah the beginner stuff is good. Tried some of it to see why people praised em so much. Also like those SG looking guitars Yamaha makes but never see em in stores.

Very much agree. People need to quit listening to zoomer guitarists who want you to buy overpriced shit that you can't gig with.

at which point is something overpriced? anything above a squier?

For shit geared towards beginners? Yes.

$1000 and $500 are the price ceilings for guitars and amps respectively

past that it's sharply diminishing returns

as a beginner you should spend no more than $500 for a guitar. $500 for an amp is fine though, your amp has to sound awesome for you to like the sound of your own playing.

I thought you were talking about the valvetronix 100 because "real amp"

What the fuck is the qualifier for sounding like a real amp? They all sound like real amps.

Ignore this guy unless you are willing to lose that sort of money if you find out it's not for you.
I'd suggest dropping 1-200 bucks on an acoustic and learning on that. It'll make you a better player than you would be starting on an electric, and it's a much smaller investment.

>none of it mattered because we were passionate and just wanted to make something
That really is the spirit of extreme/alternative music. Danzig played a piano on the first Misfits release because he couldn't afford a guitar. A bunch of poor kids from New Jersey made a punk record with a piano.

>falling the the acoustic = skill meme

Have fun picking up an electric a year later and having tons of unwanted string noise because lolgain
Also don't tell this guy about having to keep guitars humidified

>Don't invest a lot in case you quit
>Invest some money so you're motivated to stick with it

which meme is more wholesome?

asking for a friend, he has a lot of $100 and less beginner instruments in his closet he can't sell on craigslist and one nice guitar.

I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, I was just giving OP some advice.

i don't know, i have a $100 guitar, a $100 amp, and probably $200 worth of $20 pedals i hate because they sound like trash and a $5000 keyboard i actually use, that was my first and only keyboard.

i'd say OP should buy the cheapest guitar he can just in case he quits.

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Not being a $300 dollar (or $40 dollar) mini amp.

You must be one of those people who is overly sensitive to differences in speaker cabinets then

I'm one of those people who thinks a 1x8 and 2x12 both sound fine.

Beginners should buy expensive guitars to compensate for how much they suck. Advanced players should buy cheap garbage for the sake of challenge.

I wouldn't say overly sensitive. Just anything under 8 inches is ridiculous. Especially for $300 bucks man. Well that and if I'm spending a ton on a speaker cab I don't want it to be under 12. But just my preference.