How do we fix Yea Forums?

Damon Che threads are awesome.

I know how you feel. Why don't you go post something new here then? Alright, let's not try to save this board then, but let's build a small refuge inside where quality posters can talk about music. Does that seem fair to you?

I think we need a new general that encourages people to explore and discuss music. /daily/ was a good idea on paper but it became too focused on the people there it seems. I remember someone tried doing a general called /gotw/ where there was one genre each week that people discuss and listen to, but it died before the first week was finished. I also remember people were trying to make a ton of roll charts to get people to listen to new shit for a while, but most people took more interest in the Yea Forumscore roll chart. Honestly I just don’t think the board wants to discuss music outside of the names everyone knows.

Ban Emily and Emily discussion
Create a separate /kpop/ board
Ban obvious waifu threads
Ban twitter, reddit, and run screencap threads

>/daily/ was a good idea on paper but it became too focused on the people there it seems.
It was too cliquey, but something more open would be great.

Way to ghettoise any decent discussion by moving it all into one gay thread, obviously this is more about you signalling your l33thood

>Ban Emily and Emily discussion
Never ever

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woohoo posting is based

>I think we need a new general that encourages people to explore and discuss music
>something more open would be great
hey, check this out! >ghettoise any decent discussion by moving it all into one gay thread
Something is better than nothing.

Eat shit you stupid fucking faggot

When will you people learn that Yea Forums was always dogshit and was made for shitposting and nothing else? Yea Forums didn't change you grew older and the retarded shit you used to find funny is just dumb and repetitive now. Accept this and move on to something else there's no saving this place and there will never be.

How many times are the mods going to have to delete this thread the board’s fine.

>Yea Forums didn't change
It did change. The average taste changed. The userbase changed. Everything changed. At one point in Yea Forums history HALF of the posts were made by tripfags and namefags, for example. And it was easier to discuss music with them since they had their own cultivated taste and you could talk about music with them at any time. A lot of the "good users" later on moved away from the board because of chat servers (which became more and more accessible as time went by), simply because it was easier than dealing with Yea Forums being flooded by newfags every day.
Now fuck off, newfag.

>Yea Forums was always dogshit and was made for shitposting and nothing else?
There are still good threads all over Yea Forums. Maybe you don't know about them because you are just a stupid shitposter.

Thank you user that was actually interesting.
Have sex you fucking incel.

So what are the opinions regarding this general () then? What are your reasons for not participating in it?

ain't nobody posting on that shit nigga lmao

It sounds like you just want to use Discord honestly. I'm sure there are a bunch of Yea Forums servers out there I don't know why you're hanging on to this website.

so desperate lmao

Because it’s too vague. I’d like discussion of many music traditions, a single general doesn’t carry it

Feel free to start a discussion around a specific tradition over there then.

I did posted there but it seems like it's trying to be like a /daily/ thing and frankly, /daily/ was garbage. You don't need to keep asking people to reply too. Just keep making a thread every once in a while and I'm sure people will come.
This is also true, but even the more specific genre driven generals get ignored usually.

But the general tries to overcome what made /daily/ bad. I already posted the thread regularly a few months ago, but never carried on after I couldn't.

>I already posted the thread regularly a few months ago, but never carried on after I couldn't.
Did you posted it under this name or under some pretentious name? I remember some threads as "advanced music" threads or some bullshit like that. Anyway, this is all there is to it. If people would like to discuss about stuff and giving recs for interesting music, I'm all up for it, but you can't force people to comment and bump this thread.

Yea Forums is unfixable. A general that's been spammed by the same tripfag for a month straight isn't going to fix it. It's just a way for him to get a pseudo-Yea Forumscore chart that he spent a month making to take off (it won't.)
If you're actually interested in "quality discussion" of music, you would go over to certain music forums or musikchan. Or, better yet, you would actually make real life friends who are also interested in music.
Yea Forums is the most baseline website for alt-redditors. The only good discussion happens on dead boards now. Yea Forums is only going to get more and more popular. Yea Forums is unfixable.

Also, I guarantee you don't know what "quality discussion" of music even is. I took a look at that general you've been spamming and it seems to be just "plz give recommendations" mixed with blogposting and shitposting. I understand that you want to "save Yea Forums" but generals as broad as literally /music/ are going to be snoozefests.
If you want to actually encourage discussion, make specific genre generals. Probably the best discussion on the site has happened in the /noise/ and /ambient/ generals. I see zero quality discussion in /music/.

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>Or, better yet, you would actually make real life friends who are also interested in music
but im socially retarded

make sticky threads for big releases. Also moderate shitposts (i.e. stayposters, billiefags, and shit not related to music).

It got changed from /advanced/, to /discovery/, and then to /music/. Name didn't really matter when it came to activity except for the initial wave of /advanced/ haters.

>you can't force people to comment and bump this thread
I'm well aware of that, I'm just disappointed at all the people who complain about Yea Forums being bad, and when given an alternative, they dismiss it, as if they were only trying to complain for the sake of complaining, and not because they actually care about the board of even talking about music.

>musikchan
As much as I want it to succeed, it's dead as fuck. It barely gets half a dozen replies over the span of months. The /music/ threads have more and better content than musikchan, so that's why I have been putting my efforts in those.

>It's just a way for him to get a pseudo-Yea Forumscore chart that he spent a month making to take off
The general predates the chart. One of the motivations for the chart (among many others) was to help make the general more active.

>Yea Forums is only going to get more and more popular.
It's actually decreasing in popularity now.

>If you want to actually encourage discussion, make specific genre generals
That's what has already been tried. It didn't work. That's why I'm making a looser general.

>I see zero quality discussion in /music/.
There has been some in previous threads. For example: archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/thread/82672891/

I'm just expecting the general to take off eventually. Once it does, discussion can improve and become more than just recommendations.

So what do you think now?

Would it be a good idea if every topic had it's own general thread?

yes
generals are of much better quality than regular threads (which are mostly just shitposting)

how to fix Yea Forums once and for all:

>add poster IDs
>ban politics
>ban fantano
>ban generals
>ban kpop
>ban waifufaggotry
>ban anime
>ban gusic
>bring back visible sage
>add country flags
>add emojis

honestly it's that simple and that easy, hiro is too much of a lazy cunt to do it though

>ban generals
no, those are the last bastions of quality discussion here on Yea Forums

ban people who create new kpop threads when the old ones haven't 404d (seriously, there are at least three threads alive at any given time).

I agree kpg is the pinnacle of this board in terms of quality.

Country flags is a horrid idea it would just make every thread europoors telling burgers they aren't allowed to have opinions on music because their healthcare is bad
emojis are a bad idea too why would you want that
Kpop ban is whatever they really stick to their general 100% of the time if you filter kpop you don't notice they exist because kpop shit never goes into other threads

kpop general rules this board you cannot win

genre specific generals are one of the few threads that actually have any music discussion of value.
country flags and emojis would only add to the shitposting

get rid of kpop

>Country flags is a horrid idea it would just make every thread europoors telling burgers they aren't allowed to have opinions on music because their healthcare is bad

this would be an improvement. americans are the worst shitposters and deserve to be driven off to reddit where they belong (as reddit is an extension of US intelligence and exists to promote amerimutt propaganda)

i tried something similar once. i made a thread with some topic like "just post your favorite thing you're listening to now and talk about why you like it", hoping it would result in more meaningful and enjoyable discussion. it went nowhere and nobody was interested and i can tell the same thing will happen/is happening in that thread. this just isn't the type of community where people will make more useful posts just because they were encouraged to. it's not your fault.

thanks for proving my point yuropoor

Unban bug poster and the quality of this board rises instantly

>As much as I want it to succeed, it's dead as fuck. It barely gets half a dozen replies over the span of months. The /music/ threads have more and better content than musikchan, so that's why I have been putting my efforts in those.
Doesn't look like it. The issue with musikchan is that kids who are used to the speed of Yea Forums go on there and get bored when they don't get (you)s within a day. It's a long haul.
>The general predates the chart. One of the motivations for the chart (among many others) was to help make the general more active.
It doesn't seem to be doing a good job. I remember it used to be a roll chart, but then the thread literally became nothing but rolling.
Discussion based around listening to albums from a chart is far less genuine than actually recommending people stuff. Chart-threads get this right on occasion, because people can post their charts and get recommended albums based on their taste.
I don't think I've seen a single interesting back-and-forth around the Yea Forumscore chart that wasn't about how godawful it was.
>It's actually decreasing in popularity now.
2020 election will bring it back up. And if we're looking at the cumulative amount of traffic sitewide, Yea Forums still has higher traffic than it ever has had before January 2016 (with the exception of Gamergate). Pic related.
>That's what has already been tried. It didn't work. That's why I'm making a looser general.
It has worked and it will work. Perhaps your mistaking a successful general with good discussion as one that hits bump limit. Even if a general gets 80 replies, but those 80 replies are genuinely good posts, it's still far more successful than the cesspool that /kpop/ is.
>There has been some in previous threads. For example: archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/thread/82672891/
It looks like maybe 33% good posts and 66% shitshow because of how awful the name for your general is.
>So what do you think now?
You're doing it wrong.

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mu can't be fixed because the est. 2000 discord generation are legally allowed to post here now. ipso facto the board is fucked, just move on

You sound like a boomer

The ONLY way to fix Yea Forums is to permaban the sort of retards who regular these shitty whiny meta threads. Just go to (9-1)chan or something faggot, you aren't an oldfag

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here's the thing. there is only so much music discussion that you can do. when new release hits you can talk about it for maybe a few days but then there is nothing else to talk about it anymore, except repeating yourself over and over.

people also constantly shit on kpop general for not having music discussion. but it's the same thing. there is music discussion on release days, but talking about the same thing over and over gets stale.

oh and this board will definitely be dead if you just ban everything like this poster suggested

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It's simple: More /bleep/, /untz/ and /dark/
And since kpop will never be banned can we at least ban lauren and grimes?

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Yes, I get that, which is why I'm trying to turn this into a general with a more active/dedicated community. That's the difference.

>kids who are used to the speed of Yea Forums go on there and get bored when they don't get (you)s within a day
Do you even go to musikchan? Their /music/ board has only received ONE post in the last month (that wasn't complaining about musikchan being dead). ONE. It's a dead end. Just deal with it.

>It doesn't seem to be doing a good job.
I'm doing what I can. See what works, see what doesn't.

>I remember it used to be a roll chart, but then the thread literally became nothing but rolling.
I did that on purpose. First threads were "talk about music" coupled with the chart. Then I turned those into roll charts. The last roll chart is working wonders though.

>Discussion based around listening to albums from a chart is far less genuine than actually recommending people stuff.
It's just there as a reference. The OP doesn't tell you you have to listen to it.

>Yea Forums still has higher traffic than it ever has had before January 2016
Yes, but there is a downwards trend. Maybe that last spike is an upwards trend or just a momentary blip. Who knows.

>Perhaps your mistaking a successful general with good discussion as one that hits bump limit.
I'm not. /groove/ is just always the same guy posting 10 links and some random guy posting Sly and that's about it. No discussion at all. I don't think that counts as a success. Similar case for /trad/. Now, I would love it if both could get more activity, but they haven't, which is why I'm trying alternatives.

>It looks like maybe 33% good posts and 66% shitshow because of how awful the name for your general is.
And the name got changed to /music/, so we are on the right path.

To summarize: musikchan is a dead end, more specific generals, while ideal, rarely work, which is why I'm trying to aim for /music/

Based

>I'm not. /groove/ is just always the same guy posting 10 links and some random guy posting Sly and that's about it. No discussion at all. I don't think that counts as a success. Similar case for /trad/.
Sounds like /music/

This.
Actual discussion of music is extremely dry here, regardless of if there are shitposters or not. No one on Yea Forums has the any sort of skill in making music or knowledge of music history to contribute to discussions outside of "You should listen to this: (bandcamp link)" and "Yeah, that guys album wasn't as good as his last one."
Yea Forums is an underage website. Music requires actual boomers to have good discussion. It just doesn't work out.

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>Sounds like /music/
It depends on the day. We have almost reached the bump limit with quality discussion a few times, so that's good. It still gets more activity anyways.

Feel free to demonstrate your music discussion abilities here then

>Yea Forums didn't change
it absolutely did and you are new as fuck if you don't think Yea Forums has had a huge shift in culture over the past ten years

we need more Damon Che threads and similar threads which espouse the love of music

>Feel free to demonstrate your music discussion abilities here then (Cross-thread)
>it's literally called "/music/ general"
You might as well make a discord server called "music", although i'm sure that would only get 10 posts as well.

A music server would eventually die off as new people stop getting in and it becomes a clique of friends.
So, again, why don't you demonstrate your abilities in that thread over there?

more ladytron posting. this board is unbearably boring.

not him, but he never said that he had great music knowledge

Only way to fix any board is to replace the mod team.