I can't decide if what she did is legal or not. We tell people to kys all the time on here...

considering that suicide is a crime itself for the perpetrator, she would be aiding and abetting that crime AT THE VERY LEAST
fuck this fugly nutty bitch though she got off easy

imagine killing yourself because of anything OP's pic said to you. gene pool = culled

that's the downside here. For example plebbit could probably get all of Yea Forums shut down because of racism for example. They could argue racism is harmful or something and causes death and violence.

that's a valid point. Not sure if it's a constitutional law but apart from the speech issue she aided and abetted a crime.

this kid was clearly weak so imagine if he came on here and someone said kys and he did. or there was a suicide thread on here and the judge ordered Yea Forums to be shut down.

Somehow when someone tells someone else to kill themselves, it's considered a threat in this day and age. It makes no fuckin sense.

She's an alpha female. I fucking love her

If you tell someone to kill himself on /b, the guy suicides and feds find out about the Yea Forums post telling to the victim to kill himself, you can bet your ass it will happen same thing.
You guys forget that what happens here usually doesn t have consequences irl (or they don t find out about here), this is the only reason why you guys don t have the same consequences of the girl in OP.
Also, this only happens if you live in the same State where the crime can be charged.

kill yourself in minecraft my man

When will that be

I hear the "you can't yell fire" argument all the time. It's such a common mistake. Just not true.

The ac/dc guy does this all the time.
youtu.be/8fPf6L0XNvM

kys redditor

So you can't refute the yelling fire in a theater argument?

>what's your opinion on what this bitch did.
I watched the documentary first (really enlightening and made me realise how much more complicated the case is than the media was making out).
I had a real sense of "fuck" after seeing it. On the one hand, the kid was suicidal and put her under a lot of pressure to help him when she herself was a depressed, insecure teenager. And they were both prescribed a medication for their depression with side-effects that caused suicidal thoughts if I remember right (yeah, ironic).
But on the other hand, she clearly used his death to try and increase her social standing. She was an awkward loser and it can be easily shown how she attempted to make his death about her in order to get friends since she basically had none. I felt kind of sorry for her to see all the stuff that came out since I'm sure a lot of us had similar insecurities and fuckups at that age and would be mortified if all the details became public knowledge. But she had the chance to save him and didn't, and encouraged him instead.
The clincher, for me, is the final phone call. Right before the guy did it, he had changed his mind and decided not to and she convinced him that he should actually do it and then had a long phone call reinforcing it. That's the key detail and what makes her guilty in my mind.

The sentencing is the other hard point. It seemed both too harsh and too lenient at the same time. So I decided that it was probably about fair. She's already had her life basically ruined. She'll never come back from this properly. There's no real bonus to keeping her in jail for a long time. But having her in there for a bit sets a precedent and reinforces that her actions are considered wrong.

The US legal system is somehow a massiv joke.
You have DA like the one who tried to fuck up Rittenhouse life just because of politics and also nobody can't explain to me why Alec Baldwin isnt charged with manslaughter... I disregarded every gunsaftey rule

>nobody can't explain to me why Alec Baldwin isnt charged with manslaughter... I disregarded every gunsaftey rule

Well, intent has a part of it but I see with your lack of any logic you probably have no understanding of the word.

he was making a joke

kys you literal autist

not sure what to think. I completely disagree with what she did and this makes what she did even worse since she wanted fame from a death and that last call.
But I am also thinking about how a legal precedent to charge people over speech that is ultimately harmful could be so easily abused by political powers.

She in good part manipulated him into doing it and failed to alert the authorities when he was going to do it. So she was found guilty.

I know that if I tell you to kys you won't because I have no relationship with you. You don't care if I think the world would be a better place for everyone including your parents - if you went into your garage and sucked a tailpipe like it was a big black cock.

>why Alec Baldwin isnt charged with manslaughter
It's still an on-going investigation as far as I'm aware and Baldwin has expensive lawyers. Same reason that Trump hasn't been arrested for the numerous tax issues with the Trump organisation and why he's being monetarily sued for contempt of court, when you or I would've been put in jail ages ago.
The rich and famous have different rules than you or me. When the investigation is finished, they'll decide if they have sufficient evidence to charge Baldwin or not. But from the outset, Baldwin has more than plausible innocence so his lawyers would make a huge stink of it to the judge. And that would hinder the entire case because it would immediately make the judge hostile towards the prosecution.

she def shouldnt be in jail like at all. ive roleplayed with guys killing myself and got off to it and they didnt go to jail. she didnt expect the kid to literally do it lol.

Lol
Meanwhile on the left:
>fiery but mostly peaceful

kek

she was like a reddit nigger, told her boyfriend to kill himself to get sweet karma from simps. o you know how many women go to funerals just to get some sympathy and dick alot.

Kys asshole

this

100%

this
also OP you should kill yourself

Clearly no one here knows anything,
OP, the judge said it wasn’t the texts that got her sentenced at the end of the day. He said it was that when he was trying to kill himself he panicked, called her, and she basically bullied him to go back and finish the job. Judge said something like “the other stuff is free speech but here you were really trying to get a boy killed while he was in an emotional stressed out state” or something. It was her pushing him at the very end, in other words, not all those times she simply tried to convince him to do it. Read up on it for more deet

we're aware.
the DAs literally run for election which seems like a horrible horrible idea to bring politics into it. Although DA appointments could have the same problem.
Really just too many things are political, every god damned thing is turned into a politics weapon in this country.
Judges and a jury might save you from overly shitty DAs but then they erode laws for keeping obvious politics out of juries (like testing for jury impartiality now they want to get rid of that) and a judge is one person and sometimes they run for election and in other cases are appointed.
It's all a house of cards. Better to just find a way to protect yourself from these retards.

Here i did 10 seconds of research for you
abovethelaw.com/2021/10/why-falsely-claiming-its-illegal-to-shout-fire-in-a-crowded-theater-distorts-any-conversation-about-online-speech/

or maybe both of them just got off to suicide play?

yeah but how the fuck is she supposed to know hes literally doing it? for all she knew he was roleplaying

fag?

>or maybe both of them just got off to suicide play?
you need meds

ummm no.

her life might actually improve because a ton of simps are interested in her now because they are into this shit which is kind of fucked up

im on meds lol imagine simping for a stupid moid that was so weak he couldnt enjoy a suicide rp without taking it literal lmao.

which Yea Forums thot are you?

Let's go Brandon!

im into it but im female so not really a simp. i had a fwb that was into it for a while.

The heavily-elected nature of US law terrifies me. I practice in the UK, our system is shitty in so many other ways but whenever I've been offered jobs over the years with international firms the elected element of US judiciary really puts me off

America's laws of free speech are a weird situation of something basic but flawed successfully preventing something complicated but fucked up being passed.
Without the right to free speech, there would undoubtedly be a slippery slope that politicians would use to pass fucked up shit (eg. make it illegal to criticise businesses on their own property, which would quickly spiral out of control).
But at the same time, that right isn't entrenched in other countries and, despite the memes, they don't actually have issues. Like the UK has laws against hate speech but you can still legally tell the government to suck a bag of dicks without consequence.
Non-corrupt politicians could easily pass legislation that details which speech should be banned in which situations in way that was generally considered fair. But that won't happen.

In this case, I believe it wasn't her literal words, but her intent to cause harm and wilful negligence. Like how fraud is illegal in the us but that doesn't affect the right to free speech. Not a lawyer though

this is why femoids are defending her. they don't care about the kid dying they just like to imagine themselves as being so hot they get guys to kill themselves

There's already precedent for speech not being protected in all cases. Inciting a riot for example/

Does she have some condition or something? Her head don't look right to me.

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I miss the good old days when you could tell everyone to kill themselves with impunity.

nah got it backwards u just dont like her bc ur a pathetic simp that would off urself for female attention lmao.

and i dont get off as much to some kid killing himself over me, i get off to the thought of me killing myself for a guy. i also get off to rape fantasies and interracial tho so yeah im kinda fucked in the head. drugs are bad lol

most ppl call me PAanon here.

ya it's insane. The UK system seems less prone to mobs and politics but the downside to me is a situation like what's happening in the US where the law schools have all gone far into political activism so the well is poisoned.
You kind of have a situation where the lawyers could all be in a groupthink contrary to what the people are like. But I don't think it's anywhere as bad as the US.
I just hope I never end up in a court here because it's terrifyingly bad.

no I am a pathetic sperg, not a simp. know the difference.

Coalburner

Women crave attention, she wanted a pitty party for her self, for a dead boyfriend. Honesty she was probably stoked from all the attention she got from killing her boyfriend. She will make a great fuck toy in jail!

So if I put out a hit on someone that should be legal because "it's just speech" right?

Clearly words can be used to commit crimes, as has been legal precedent since the beginning of civilization.

yeah you said it keyword right here "her depressed "boyfriend"", he wasn't normal, he was damaged, that was his own responsibility not hers.
You don't know what you're talking about.
it's holding her to a higher standard.
She doesn't know what exactly is his intent, or what's truly going on in his mind.
We're reaching into thought crime territory, it isn't but it's damn close, fucking words.

Yelling fire isn't what the crime is.. it's the public disturbance, injuries, or (if you can believe) loss of profit/assets of the facility...

the universities courses are much more political than they historically have been in the UK, but the professional qualification courses that I guess you would call the equivalent of US law school programmes are VERY apolitical. recent reform of qualification has stripped back the route to be a series of multiple choice exams based around day-to-day practice and a period of work experience within a firm. professional conduct demands a level of apolitical behaviour so it makes sense