THE GREAT DEBATE: is it genetic or cultural?

THE GREAT DEBATE: is it genetic or cultural?

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Probably both ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Why not both?

Black populations have an increase in estrogen relative to white, which is absolutely genetic. Also possible explains their inability to hold their emotional shit together. Aggression was a very useful trait in sub-saharan africa, and was emphasized in sexual selection, and therefore ingrained genetically and culturally.

Aggression wasn't so useful in the white parts of the world. Intelligence was. Innovation came almost entirely from traditionally white nations.

Cultural / socioeconomic status absolutely explain a large portion of the black problem, but the comparisons between black/white violence in same the socioeconomic brackets CLEARLY tell us it's not the whole story.

Are leapords and cheetas exactly the same?
If the answer is no then why are we humans saying niggers and whites are the same?!
Niggers are unevolved humans, they're still in the monkey stage of evolution.

>the comparisons between black/white violence in same the socioeconomic brackets CLEARLY tell us it's not the whole story.
the Egalitarians NEVER have an answer for this

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Egalitarians are idiots. Anyone with an above average IQ has lived life looking at the general population with a "wow you're fucking stupid" mindset. We are NOT all equal.

Mostly genetic but the culture isn't helping.

Both. Read Rushton&Jensen's "30 Years of Research on Race Differences in Cognitive Ability" (free pdf on the internet). The 50% hereditary 50% environmental model is undisputably true.

> is it genetic or cultural?

Culture is a direct result of a collectives genetic predispositions.

The more advanced the people, the more advanced the culture.

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its the emotional propaganda that gets them. they see any admission of, say, african intellectual inferiority as tantamount to stringing them up from trees. they are so manipulated by the myopic view of history they're taught, reinforced by jewish 'news' and 'entertainment,' that evidence for any differences in abilities immediately brings up red flags and sirens, visions of the klan and swastikas. they're intellectual children.

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100%.

Now IQ and SAT scores are actually really only a small part of the story. We don't have a great way to measure creative/innovative thinking unfortunately. But if you look at the last 200 years, the vast majority of major innovations are from white people. Asian cultures score better on tests, and they're really good at refining an idea into the most efficient version, but they really suck at inventing full on new things.

Black people should seriously just be our military forces. Point their aggression somewhere external. Conscript em all - south park style.

>Asian cultures score better on tests, and they're really good at refining an idea into the most efficient version, but they really suck at inventing full on new things.
yessir. look at how well asians have adapted to white technology brought to them by the europeans: they hit the ground running, and the east asian tigers are some of the most technologically sophisticated in the world. but they don't invent all too much on their own. very smart, not quite as creative as whites.
however, they're also not as gullible as we are. notice how kikes aren't running their media institutions and convincing the foolish natives how evil they are and how replacement immigration is a good thing.
the story of Faust is a great metaphor for our race: reaching untold heights with our unprecedented ability to think abstractly, but brought low by that self-same ability (that the jew exploits masterfully) when it turns to objective and neutral application of the moral values that brought us cooperation and trust.

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Maybe? It's not like chinese media is any more "true" than our media. I'm unfamiliar with Japanese or Korean media. I do know Japan is so fucking racist against outsiders it would be impossible for foreign ownership to take over their media. I believe it's the same for a lot of asian cultures.

Only whites really think racism is bad. White Man's Burden is really here all over again, just in a different way.

>Only whites really think racism is bad.
yup. other racial groups exhibit not just higher ingroup preference than we do, but they also show higher distrust of outsiders. again, with our ability to think more abstractly comes our downfall: we are taught "universal values" of freedom, equality, certain rights of man, etc, and apply these to all races, holding ourselves accountable when we "fail" to uphold these values (slavery, segregation, etc). but these are white values, and very few other peoples share them. and the ones that do, certainly don't go out of their way to apply them to others. that's why you'll never see an african or a mexican standing up for anyone besides himself.

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The thing is do a lot of iq test und you get better at iq test

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This is true. IQ tests are absolutely biased to certain cultures. But there's other measures of behaviour... like crime statistics.

>IQ tests are absolutely biased to certain cultures.
thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/cultural-bias-on-iq-tests/

Interesting. Obviously a biased website, but I'll absolutely pore over their research to see if I can confirm or refute my own beliefs. Thank you fren!

All I know is that of the hundreds of blacks I've met only a handful had enough intelligence to get out of the ghetto, so regardless, the minority of a minority is a rarity making the majority just ignorant niggers.

>Obviously a biased website
keep reading, you'll be surprised. a very impressive collection of research.

Just sterlize all blacks. They can't even contribute in todays society. Imagine the burden they will be in the world of tomorrow.

See now this is dumb. They have as much right to life as you or me. Niggers gonna nig, but removing them from the gene pool would be tragic.

We should just legalize blood sports. Can you imagine the nigger vs nigger TV shows?

livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

All you /pol/ losers read this instead. You're the real idiots for believing anything to blame society's problems on a race.
Racism = low iq

fpbp
obviously its both. one is your capital the other is your ability to spend it

Years old graph, debunked countless times, racist cousin fuckers grab onto it like the holy grail.
Still fatbois being upsetti spaghetti

Admitting you're racist = low IQ.
Obviously races aren't equal. There are huge differences that you would have to be retarded not to notice.

>Racism = low iq
no, niggers=low IQ
see if you have the IQ to work your way through this one, i'm guessing no:
thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/iqs-of-races-in-the-united-states/

Based. Being racist = high IQ. publicly admitting you're racist = low IQ. Think for yourself, but behave like others.

can you debunk this one?
thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/iqs-of-races-in-the-united-states/

Racism is the belief in the existence of races, AND the belief one race is superior, coupled with hatred towards the lesser races.

A man hating someone bc they're black is obv stupid and racist

But a belief in an anthropological taxonomy, the application of Darwinian concepts to the realm if humans, is not only scientific, but if done without an irrational generalized hatred, isn't racist at all, as the word is defined.

To observe obvious biological, morphological differences between humans that evolved in geographically segregated areas, without hatred or the wish to cause harm... Isn't racism. Its biology.

>To observe obvious biological, morphological differences between humans that evolved in geographically segregated areas, without hatred or the wish to cause harm... Isn't racism. Its biology.
i like that, maybe ill make a meme out of it

Alternatively, biology is racist. But I like your way better.

What we need, is a VOLUNTARY ETHICAL EUGENICS.

see some short sighted ppl get all up in arms about nigs cause of high crime rates and low IQ. But there's smart brothas out there. If youre gonna have this utopian ethno state type thing, youre actually going about it inefficiently if all u look at is race. Ur gonna kill smart niggers, and spare retarded whites.

If the whole reason for disliking lesser races is lower avg IQ, high crime rates etc... Then just make it about that to begin with.

Imagine a program, entirely consent based, with informed participants, that financially incentivizes the intelligent to breed, and the non intelligent to be sterilized.

Totally voluntary though

Like a seroes of tests, IQ, sat, etc coupled with a criminal history check, and medical history, could be used to identify the most useful and contributing individuals, and thier undesirable reciprocates.

The offer is made, if u test high, you'll be paid to have a family, the medical costs are covered, maybe some tax breaks and some long term bonds to mitigate the initial cost.

Likewise the sake offer is made to the undesirables, in exchange for thier VOLUNTARY INFORMED CONSENSUAL sterilization.

In a few generations average IQ goes up, crime down, the program thus pays for itself much like public education, as it betters the citizenry, and produces more intelligent, productive citizens capable of more complex work.

And nobody's rights are violated.

Biology is a science. It can't be racist. It doesnt have the capacity to think. That would be like a gun being mean. Are u fucking retarded?

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socioeconomic + deliberately bad tests

I've met more whites that fit this category than blacks. I grew up in the rural South where it was looked down upon to have an education or try to better yourself by leaving the rural South -- it still is. At least most blacks know they have to get out of the ghetto to be successful, white trash are proud of being poor white trash and actively encourage others to be white trash too.

i think he's parodying the current "math is racist" shit that's going on in american ed today

Niggers have simply taken a different evolutionary path. One that demanded for a more aggressive and instinctual nature. Whites we're required to be innovative and adapt to a widely changing enviornment, very typical of northern climates.

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That's not actually happening right? I thought it was a joke

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Maybe if the bottom of the barrel didn't shit out kids, and the geniuses multiplied like rabbits, this wouldn't be so much of a problem.

Idiocracy effect at work.

money.cnn.com/2016/09/06/technology/weapons-of-math-destruction/index.html
powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/02/why-math-is-racist.php
washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jun/6/is-mathematics-racist-california-could-blaze-pathw/
nationalreview.com/2017/10/math-racist-university-illinois-professor/
insiderpaper.com/math-is-racist-white-supremacy-bill-gates/
dailycaller.com/2019/10/21/seattle-schools-math-is-racist/
it's very real, user. blue states are changing their curriculum.
racial egalitarianism will destroy the West.

But there isn't that much genetic drift between most populations. That's because we always find and fuck each other. Only exception I can think of is aboriginal Australians. They're actually what would be legit considered a separate race if it was classified the way we do with animals. Everyone else is more closely related than you realize. And I'm not saying they're inferior or whatever. They are just the most genetically distant from everyone else. Still human and deserving of equal respect.

Poorfags are dumb. That means you too OP.

It's nature and the nigger nature is to avoid learning no matter what because they are, well, niggers.

The Negro is a feral, fetid, foul, filthy pack of sub-human savages that if isolated in sub-Saharan Africa would assuredly become extinct via natural selection.

That extinction would be an enormous boon to all of humanity and greatly assist human progress. China is actively seeking a Negro-specific virus with 100% lethality only towards the despicable Negro populace. The Covid virus was a first effort that failed but progress is made daily. The cleansing of the Negro infestation is assured and will occur in the not-too-distant future.

HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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That's not even true. In fact they lack two extinct archaic hominid groups. And that's what makes them slightly different. Not aboriginal Australiann different but still slightly different.

>Everyone else is more closely related than you realize
by any sane and consistent biological classification, the various races of man are different subspecies.

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Lol “debunked”. Sure.
Sorry about your complete lack of potential Jamal

>leapords and cheetas
Neither of these things exists

Cultural. Black children of US parents raised on foreign military bases have the same IQ as white children in the same circumstances. Separate blacks from black culture, and they do fine.

This might be genius.

All that really needs to be done is mandatory sterilization as prerequisite for welfare aid. Problem solved.

>Black children of US parents raised on foreign military bases have the same IQ as white children in the same circumstances.
interesting. source?

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There's enough genetic drift to create enough physical and mental differences, that its reasonable to create further sub categorization beyond species, into variants. That's the biological term for animals that can interbreed, and belong to the same species, but still show enough difference in anatomy/behaviour, that they deserve to be thought of as subtely different versions of the same species. In botany the term is strain. Like different kinds of weed that get u higher? Some are heady... Some grow in two months... So they are subclassified further beyond speciea.

There's absolutely nothing disrespectful about that.

The NLS doesn't measure IQ so the graph is made up. What the NLS does show is that a higher percentage of Blacks and Hispanics are getting post high school education and are working longer than their white counterparts. It also shows that Whites are skipping out on college and taking lower paying jobs that Blacks and Hispanics would have normally taken.

t. NLS data 2021

>independantly
>existance
>causaians
>homosapiens
>commited
>arguement
kek smoothbrain chad can't even spell

I love that idea. Now if only "Muh rayciss literally Hitler" crowd would see the advantage.

We've already got MMA. Might as well just admit humans have a massive capacity for violence that's going to come out somewhere. Let's channel it into entertainment instead of destruction.