Why didn’t they just use bullet-proof shields?

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only captain america got to have one.

Bullet proof shields are too heavy for boats.

The MG 42 fired 7.92mm ammo, which would destroy any sort of light weight shield. They'd need to be carrying around a massive like 80lb shield to live. Not only that it wouldn't protect against mortar and artillery fire which was a worse issue. Not worth it.

did anyone else find it a little jarring when they all yelled "for drag queen story hour" before storming the beach?

Why didnt they just nuke the beach?

>t. budget guy

Why didn't they just stay in the boats and used them as cover?

Too smart for americans

Has nothing to do with budget. How can you be an effective soldier when you're carrying around a massive 80 lb shield? How could you fire your own weapon?

>Were they retarded?
No, they were American. Good goyim sent to be canon fodder while the brits flanked around lol.

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They carry it on their back, not with their arms. They'd also move much more slowly and be vulnerable to artillery and mortar, like I said.

They were under the (mistaken) impression that bombardment from offshore ships had taken out a lot of the defences that turned out to be intact when they got there.

How about they just let Hitler do his thing and not ruin the world?

Omaha was only an issue because the bombers missed literally all of their targets and the germans sank all of their tanks before they reached shore.

Russians weren't the ones embargoing their oil imports.

>germans sank all of their tanks
poseidon did that to protect EVROPA

>be nip
>invade Russia from the east
>march into millions of square miles of wilderness
>nowwhat.wav

they had just finished a war with Russia and didn't want to do it again

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yup. I've noticed how boomers who saw it when it first came out legitimately think it's the most horrific piece of media ever. meanwhile millennials who've seen it just go "oh yeah it's pretty violent."

IRL most of the machine gun emplacements also had side facing sections from their pillboxes so they would have overlapping fields of fire with each other. They weren’t just facing out to sea as that would leave too great a blind spot for anyone who got close the cliffs. Also means anyone trying to use a shield like the riot shield from MW2, would get shot in their flanks.

It is violent, by video game standards or even gore standards. People's arms getting blown off and people being disemboweled. Or there's the scene at the end of the movie where the dude is rigging an explosive to a tank and takes too long and is blown to smitherines.

I think you're downplaying the horrifying violence in this movie. It's hard to think of a more violent piece of media.

Holy checked. They expect one in the wreckage brother

This, also to hide the muzzle flash of the MGs and artillery from the ships
t. been to the beach

You want to equip an entire assault wave with bullet proof sheilds and have them advance up a beach that historically was deadly mainly because of artillery fire, not mg bullets, so all these guys are carrying a sheild, a gun some ammo, and thats it? That is incredibly expensive folly, hahahaha. And i bet there were ideas just like the shield idea thay were discarded because they are not logical or possible.

Too heavy for water.

Why not just wait until winter and the ocean is frozen then?

not if its a battleship

Where was friggin' CAPTAIN AMERICA??

They had floating tanks

They were transphobic.

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Seriously, why weren't there 3 or 4 shield guys in the front line of every boat? Because it seems as soon as the ramp went down (which protected them from gunfire until that point) they got slain in a few seconds. You can say them acting as meat shield for the rest is business as usual in such situations, but giving them such 80lb shields and ordering them to push as far as they can would've been beneficial for the other soldiers too. I don't see how this wouldn't have saved plenty of extra lives.

Soldiers do not bunch up in battles like this, they spread out. Having 20 soldiers all bunched up is ASKING for a mortar shell to be dropped on them. You're asking why specifically they didn't have them in the front of the landing boats? Because boats HAD shields on the front. They got shot when the door opened up. They were not expecting any machine guns to be operational, let alone pointed at the doors waiting for them to open. They were expecting them to be completely destroyed by the navy bombing the living fuck out of the beach. Omaha was a fucking disaster because pretty much everything that could have gone wrong, went wrong. The bombings were completely ineffective, the tanks didn't make it to shore. That beach was won with blood and blood alone, which is why it's one of the most talked about moments in World War 2 (at least on the western front).

You can't plan for shit you don't know about, and shields have proven time and time again to not be very effective in combat.

>hollywood still hasn't made this into a movie
why? to sympathetic?

i really like this post.

>They were not expecting any machine guns to be operational (...) They were expecting them to be completely destroyed by the navy bombing
This answers my original question, thanks, user! Otherwise I still don't see how letting dozens (if not hundreds) of soldiers mowed down right as they step on the land makes any sense. How would have the US Army adjusted if they knew about the upcoming machine gun fire? Let's try to focus on the landing boats and soldiers in them, if possible.

Why didn't they drive the boats backwards so the door opens to the ocean and they have cover?

desu it looks more like the US units were the ones flanking. All the commonwealth forces were concentrated together

bulletproof water

I feel like they got what they fucking deserved in the end

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They simply wouldn't send the soldiers in if they knew the machine guns were pointed straight at them without cover. They would have the soldiers remain under cover and a safe distance from artillery until the tanks, bombers, or flanking troops took out a majority of resistance like this. They certainly wouldn't pretend that shields, a 10,000 year old technology would do jack shit against an MG42. It's unironically easier to dodge a bullet than it is to predict where it's going to land and put up a shield to block it.

Again, the MG42s weren't even the real issue. There were thousands of troops on the beach, MG42 could maybe take out 10-15 soldiers a minute if they were bunched up. The real issue was the artillery that was bombing the ever living fuck out of the beach. In which case your only strat is to spread out, run for cover and try to flank. Which is what they did. The German's had a fuckton of bombs themselves and they used them.

apparently they didnt float

And who would a thunk they were responsible for the jewish communist NWO

Why did they cut out the scene when they all kneel for BLM on the shore?

t. shieldlet

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theres no such thing as bullet proof

Uhm, then what is this retard?
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Why didn't they just fly the eagles to Mordor and throw Hitler into Mount Doom?

Why not put tanks on those boats as well?

They did. Almost all of them sank.

mom can I borrow your oven mitts for the renfair?

Why didn't they have a large bulletproof board that was held by 3 men in the front and everyone moved wherever the board moved?

Why didn't they just paratroop into Berlin?

nets

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Why didn't they simply wear German uniforms and walk backwards up the beach?

yes

this but my ww2 vet grandpappy was black

The fuck? The internet existed before this movie poorfag

germans know how to spycheck

>Utah
Americans were so dumb they attacked their own state.
Fucking idiots.

nukes aren't real

Why didn't they invade from the North Sea near Bremen?

>the germans sank all of their tanks
The Americans sank their own tanks because they launched them way too far out so they just got swamped with water

ywnbaw

I considered laughing at this post

the beach landing were supposed to be a cake walk. The airforce fucked it up with their bombing runs and we got the worst of it.

>we
what's it like being a centenarian?

Well, to be fair Utah is pretty shit, fuck mormons

They did. They're called Goyim

This basically.

Why didn't they just fly the eagles into Germany?

>it's a foolish ancestor throws his progeny into a hellish future episode

Why didn’t they
>drive the boats up to the beach
>pretend like they were going to open the doors
>while Germans are all focused on boats, stealth in and kill then from behind

Nothing is bulletproof, only bullet resistant. And nothing will withstand dozens of shots from a high powered rifle, let alone a mounted gun placement.

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>Nothing is bulletproof
Your virginity is

Do you think that works? It reveals your age and lack of maturity, that you think I could reach my age and still be a virgin. And since you're wrong, what good is the attack?

*Schießt dich ab*
Nichts Persönliches, Kleiner

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Why didn't they just use the testudo formation?

Why were the goyim so desperate to die for Jewish causes? I really dont understand

>Why were the goyim so desperate to die for Jewish causes?
They trusted their leaders, who were owned by the Jews.

Why didn't they morph into cybernetic lions with the power to shatter their enemies with a supersonic roar, then morph into petrol to burn the survivors, then morph back into people again to win the war?

kek

I remember getting PTSD trying to raid one of those fucking things in MoH Airborne back in the day. US History 1 didn't prepare me for the armored minigun Nazi's.

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America wasn't going to just stand by while that little manlet took over our pet welfare colonies.

Honest question. Why not have battleships off the shore laying down a godly fucking storm of artillery suppression? Telling me they couldn't hit those bunkers?

They did. They missed, and then after the invasion started they didn't want to hit their own troops. This was before satellites and shit to confirm hits.

Got it. It's just a shame the only way the beaches were taken was by zerging them at the cost of so many men.

Bullshit, bullet sponge enemy

>no mr. president, I ASSURE you, the ONLY way to win this war is to send all of our troops up one uphill beach that the enemy is expecting us at with machine gun emplacements with their only protection being the dead bodies of their friends

Lueger machine pistol with infinite ammo is your friend

>they can't shoot us if they don't have any bullets.
>how do we use up their bullets?
>I know!

No wonder Hitler was so crazy.

Why didn’t they have iron man suits?

Why didn’t they fight for the right side?

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why did you never grow out of capeshit after highschool

it’s a joke you sperg

Why did people believe the spanish flu and corona were real?

yeah I agree your life is a joke

What bothered me most about the opening to Saving Private Ryan was the lack of quips. Arn't they supposed to be friends? Was the Red Skull there so they were too scared?

>phoneposting
off

If Hitler was such a great orator, why didn't he just ask the allies to leave?

Aside from the landings and the battle in the hedges, much of the fighting in France was a cakewalk for the Allies. The combination of air superiority, the French rebelling everywhere, the Axis troops being dudes from other countries including conscripted prisoners of war from the Eastern Front, there was no doubt that the Allies will win in France

I loved the end of World War 2 when Stalin, Churchill, Charles de Gaulle, and Obama came out of big portals for the final fight with Thanos

Why didn't they just fight along side the Germans?

I feel like this was the first mainstream blockbuster type film to show how horrible war could be. Up until SPR any war movie I had seen, the heroes were unstoppable and the bad guys couldn’t hit shit. Occasionally a good guy would die a dramatic death where he tells one of the crew to give a message to his wife then closes his eyes.

Enter the beach scene of saving private Ryan, guys getting mowed down as soon as the boat ramps open, getting shot in the water, drowning under the weight of their own equipment, getting blown to bits by mortar fire on the beach. It was intense.

He spoke German dumbass

>americans barge headfirst into a heavily defended zone with maximum german defenses and emplacements
>immediately establish a permanent beach head that steamrolls Hans with 0.1% the german deaths in Stalingrad

4 years to build those defenses

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not to mention the guy getting stabbed and the other guy not being able to do anything because he is paralysed with fear, which is a very real thing in war

First, personal shields or armors were often tried and experimented during WW1. All failures. Since WW2 had more powerful guns and no new materials were found, WW2 didn't even bother to experiment.

Secondly, life wasn't valued the same back then. American boys in the army were litteraly meat shields and loss were expected and fully accepted by the generals and even the population. In our modern times, we would tolerate that use of manpower but in 1944 it was normal for plebeians to give their life for the nation. Aristocratic kids never went to the frontlines so important lives were sparred.

a normal 50 cal round can punch through three quarters of an inch of hardened steel at close range, black and silver tips(armor piercing and armor piercing incendiary) can punch through even more. Actual armor piercing shields made of steel that could cover a decent bit of soldier would be heavy as fuck, even modern bullet resistance ceramic plates(a lot more efficient than WW2 steel) is still heavy and cumbersome

why didn't they just fly the eagles straight to reichstag?

>a normal 50 cal round can punch through three quarters of an inch of hardened steel at close range
completely irrelevant to the conversation. MG42 fires 7.62mm bullets, and they weren't exactly close range.

they weren't taking just one shot either

why didnt they land somewhere else, like where there werent a bunch of guns ready to blast them?

they landed at other beaches as well where there wasn't as much resistance

IRl the machine guns were far off to either flank with interlocking fields of fire so frontal shields wouldn't do much good.

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and? You realize there's a big difference in hardened steel armor and normal steel too right? Heall forget whether or not they were practical to use, Mass producing enough of it to equip soldiers with some kind of medieval style shield when that kind of steel was in super high demand for making tanks, ships, and such wasn't even an option.

moving an invasion force of that size and then continuing to supply it becomes exponentially more difficult the longer the sea crossing is, but keep in mind that this wasn't the only front the allies were invading from, you had the invasion force coming from Africa into Italy as well as the Soviet front as well

Underrated

Shield walls
Big dick chads up front with their bulletproof shields and riflemen in the line behind them stacking Germans like sandbags

>these were REAL men, men that died for their country! for what they believed in! stood up in the face of evil and said "NO!"

on the contrary, this is one historical event i'll readily cite as proof that NPCs exist. thousands literally mindlessly zerged nests fitted with machine guns because they were told to which went exactly how you would expect. just look at the OP and you can count about 50% of those men are straight up fluoride staring off into the distance completely unable to comprehend the slaughter they are going to.

Still a dumb beach choice. They should have gone this way since they weren't even at war with France and Hitler was in Germany anyways

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Forgot my pic

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Yes please group all your men up nice and close while Zigfried polishes his mortar

Just shoot the mortar out of the air like in my shooty games

If Germany had a butthole, that's where it'd be

This is Europe, it'd be too laggy.

American retards destroyed 90% of their tank support before the battle even started.kramy

Unironically though, why didn't they bring battleships to bombard the shore before sending the transport ships in?

Fuck, I didn't think about the lag. Maybe we could just yell nigger over the voice chat until Germany's mom makes them log off

>Saint-Mere Eglise
i love that map on hell let loose

they basically did

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The shore was very big and the things they were shooting at were comparably very small, plus Hans wouldn't let them pull up to see how good of a job they did.

Dumbasses invaded spaghetti land by mistake

My grandfather raped a 15-year-old Italian girl during the war, told me about it while he was fighting cancer

Spaghetti land got btfo so much that Germany had to invade them from the North just to stop the Allies from zooming right thought them

Italian military history is hilarious

Thanks for sharing user.

>forward lads, for gay marriage!! to destroy white privilege!! and to be called a racist by our transexual grandsons YAHHHHHHHH!!!

That may have been my great-grandmother. How are you doing, cousin?

You're welcome, love my granddad :)

Pretty good, thinking about carrying on the family legacy and going over to Ukraine to rape Slavic girls

Don't be a bigot

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Hitler wanted the Japanese to attack british colonies in asia and russian ports, but not attack america, but he fucked up along with Ribbontrop and gave assurances to japanese foreign minister Matsuoka that if Russia or America attacked Japan they would come to their aid

When Matsuoka went back to Japan they immediately signed a neutrality pact with Russia, Hitler thought this was fine because he thought it meant they would attack Singapore soon instead of Russia

Once Russia was invaded the ambassadors were calling the embassies in Japan begging them to attack the Russians, Matsuoka was in favor of immediately attacking Russia, but the Tokyo government didn't want to. Hitler wanted Japan to attack Britain's asian colonies to distract the US from Europe. He was afraid of the peace faction in Japan working and Japan leaving the Axis too.

Once the govt fell and Tojo government came, the war party drew them closer to the Axis, but Hitler didn't realize the failure of the Hull-Nomura negotiations which they wanted to fail, would lead to Japan attacking the US. For reasons unknown when they were drafting the treaty just before Dec 6th Hitler didn't want a guarantee the Japanese would declare war on Russia, and instead opted for just Britain & America

When the news first hit about Pearl Harbor in Berlin, Ribbontrop refused to believe it and called it a propaganda trick. Hitler waited until 3 days later to offically declare war because there was no condition in the Triparite pact that obligated Germany to assist Japan since they were the aggressor

Literally the only thing in this image I can even begin to care about is the "die for profits". Please explain to me why I should care.

why didn't they just train a million snipers?

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