Is fame even worth it?

is fame even worth it?

is it better for you and your music just to stay as an unknown bedroom artist and get a couple hundred streams on every track you make?

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fame=money

so, yes it's worth it

most indie artists would be barely making 100k a year

i like the lowkey diy shit desu. maybe play live now and again.

im a bedroom artist and i enjoy making music, i dont look for fame, just for more people to enjoy listening to what i create you know?

here is a song ive made, have a listen

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that seems like the best option to be honest, not selling out, doing something you love but making what you would be at a decent job, and not having to deal with the hassles of being famous. sounds pretty based to me.

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the problem is most good musicians are ego maniacs and a couple hundred plays isnt enough. until people call you a genius youll feel like shit

i've been making music for years, im well known in certain communities, nowhere near famous, but that wasn't due to any effort on my part. just sort of happened. remaining unknown doesn't help you and streaming brings in next to nothing in revenue. not that it mattered to me, the people who I idolised as a kid know who I am due to my work and I became friends with them over the years. I found that to be the most rewarding part of making music. the friendships and contacts made have been amazing and i'm pretty grateful for that. money and fame is meaningless to me, that's not why I started making music or continue to do so.

I want my band to be huge, but I have absolutely no desire to be in the spotlight. I am the front man. I try to remain enigmatic and barely talk at all between songs at our shows. I wish I could live the rockstar life without being a celebrity. It must be hell to have people following you with cameras and shit. I need my privacy.

now you know how Kurt felt

I want that neve rnhp headphone amp

Have a 10 year stint of genius output, make tons of money and then fade into obscurity while making money from royalties and then die a legend.

There is no money in music unless you are top 40 and even that fizzles out after as people age and forced to do comeback cash grab tours just to sell t-shirts

>There is no money in music unless you are top 40 and even that fizzles out after as people age
that's partially true. don't forget about royalties! if some track is massive today, it could be still well loved in 20 years, maybe used in whatever productions by other people, maybe sampled or covered, and that all brings in some royalty cash. there are one hit wonders still living off of royalties.

>sharing your music to the public

oh cmon user. you got to. we all started from the bottom being noobs.

>royalties
Do some research, even nsync members have a different jobs now. You would be lucky if you get 10k per year on them 20 years later. Labels make money in music, not the pawns.

I've put a lot of music out in public before. Now I only send scores and proof of concept renderings to a few select friends.

>even nsync members have a different jobs now
>NSYNC
that's a pretty poor example as we all know boy/girl bands sign some pretty appalling contracts and contribute nothing to the song writing. If you've written the lyrics, produced it, wrote stuff for it, you will get credit for it and royalties every time it's played (streaming, radio, tv, whereever). If you own the rights to your music and not done some deal with a label then you get all the money. If the song ends up being popular, you will get royalties for it until you die. Long story short: always get your fucking name in the credits of a track as writer, composer, lyricist or producer.

tl;dr: apologies, i've been drinkin!

I dont even make 30k a year so that'd be an upgrade for me.

Tell me how much do you think diplo is making right now so I can laugh at you

>is a loser
You can't even get dubs.

> diplo
> well respected
> plays fesitval after festival
> produces all his own shit
> after streaming revenue / youtube / itunes, label takes a cut
still living extremely well, you dense fucking faggot. do you know anything about how this industry works or spazzing out like you've got super down syndrome the best you can do? what a fucking retard. my sides.. in orbit.

that's exactly how I work. I'll make stuff and only share it a few people I know. It has kept me busy as I end up finding some project I'm asked to contribute to. what I find a little difficult at times is adjusting to what styles of music they want written for them. it's challenging but fun, and i'm not wasting my time just releasing stuff for the fuck of it.

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I shelved my last album entirely. Only two people have heard it. It was tiring trying to be a rock musician in a world that doesn't care about good sound anymore.

where do you tour next bro

People care, trust me. But the struggle is real and very uphill atm

Music made for popular appeal is literally marketing and its for people who have a disease in the soul.

ALL GREAT MUSIC REQUIRES DEDICATION TO THE CRAFT ITSELF, NOT VIEWS

pop music is a symptom of the diseased modern soul

Welp, you certainly sound pretentious enough to become a famous musician. Keep trying at it.

Don't have any idea what is "to make it". My ex-band released through labels maybe perhaps 5000-10000 copies of different records through 3 albums (Demo, EP, Split) and toured few festivals internationally. Being part of the underground metal scene, some of the releases did achieve some sort of "underground fame" in a sense that I saw someone pay over $100 for one of our CDs on eBay because the label we were on ceased to exist and all the releases on that label were hard to get since no reprints were possible and many of the releases ended up being "collectors items".

There was no big money involved, but at least we did not put our own money into it: the labels we were on paid for our recording fees, mastering etc. Usually the labels released like 2000 copies of the record: they would send us like 100 copies for free to distribute/sell/whatever, so it was a win/win situation for all.

I really liked the underground scene, knew lots of bands personally and it had a very strong DIY.

Then again, we fell of the map, if you do not release material ( let us say ) every 2-5 years or even a song or two you get forgotten quite fast. After 5 years of hiatus we just disbanded without officially ever splitting up.

I personally am learning audioengineering at the moment and have huge bulk of material in terms of raw demos, guitar pro files, whatever, but to achieve any sort of "good" sound "at home" just seems unachievable for me at the moment. I have produced several raw demos on my own, but they sound more like song you take with yourself to a real studio and record them all over again.

It kinda sucks that being a studio musician for many years you realize that you do not know actually anything about mixing, mastering, recording or what kind of mics you need to "achieve that sound" etc.

It was much easier just for the whole band to book a studio, go record your instrument drink few beers and go home and never gave any second thought to it.

how tf is this pretentious

Idk, my psychedelic pop and ambient projects have been posted on this board and I along with some others think it's mediocre but the attention y'all have given somehow makes me want to try at this more and maybe something great can come out of it. I'll give it a shot Yea Forums

yeah and then your wife dies and you get a new hotter one at the blink of an eye

>It was tiring trying to be a rock musician in a world that doesn't care about good sound anymore.

Are you kidding me?

which part do you dispute? People care less and less about music, people care less and less about sound fidelity, this is easily observable

You're implying that you're the only one who cares about good sound anymore.

i don't think he implied he was literally the only one who cares anymore, its a figure of speech you brainlet

At least my observation from metal scene which I have been into since 90s, the sound has gotten better.

Of course there are classic records from every era that many consider the "peak" in sound or something like that: everyone has their preferences, but I am talking the sound in overall.

Especially when it comes to extreme metal , many of the better bands went under the radar for long time, who had awesome songwriting, but the production was just so weak and horrible in many ways.

These days the sound quality has improved, accelerated quite fast, that even the shitty bands have pretty good production.

What I am missing especially from the 90s was the variety in sound and soundscape. These days the audiochiseling and various methods are perhaps are so standardized, perhaps the same programs are used, that the final product tend to sound the same in a sense that one would think they would have been recorded on a same studio.

I can pick up some good records from the 90s and instantly from the sound I could recognize what studio these guys probably used, many studios had their trademark sound. These days it all sounds the same.

link to some of your work?

fpbp
Fuck your integrity and fuck trying to please a few virgins on Yea Forums, that sweet cash is all that matters. If you have the opportunity to sell out then take it.