Hey, Yea Forums just wondering if anyone has a relatable issue regarding their friend groups?
None of my friends make music, or have even attempted for that matter. We all grew up havily invested in the culture and listening to music but I am the only one who decided to take the extra step and learn instruments, production, sound designs etc. It's by far the most difficult thing I have every tackled, and I'm sure lots of you who have done the same can agree. My friends are so smug about music, acting like they know everything, and have such harsh opinions towards art others create and my art too. I share my stuff to out group chat only to get ignored or non-constructively critiqued and it comes from an angle where they make it seem like producing music is so easy. I'm not trying to be a little bitch about this, but it angers me so much and crushes me when they mostly only have off putting comments or negative things to say as if they can do better - and they for sure cant. I just see other people who make music get so much support from their friend circles and mine just... doesn't. It sucks a lot. Just wanted to rant that out.
Stop being a pussy, If you don't like your friends don't act like it's ok.
Jace Ortiz
i almost feel the same way. I grew up in a small town where I've known these guys since kindegarten, and we went through together since gr.12. I moved to the city and some moved here as well and were all still connected, but I can honestly say we're all so different. If we met today I doubt all of us would be friends. It's just as if they're family at this point.
Jason Bailey
You know it's okay to be alone, right? You don't need to hang out with people you despise.
Parker Hall
dude I 100% feel you, my old group of friends i held in highschool / barely after were such music snobs because they could parrot conversation abouut albums that anthony fantano thought were good that week. Finding people to surround yourself with that actually enjoy your company and respect you will change your life, no exaggeration. the world is an angry fucked place, and the one place it shouldnt be is with your close friends. do your thing man
Austin Richardson
You should thank them. The moment you actually make something that slaps you'll hear from them.
Caleb Wright
I know that, user.
I'm not acting like it's okay, it's just one of those situations where we've been together forever, maybe our situations are different. It's been hard to get myself into art communities in the city and sometimes, even when I go to these things, being extroverted becomes very hard all of a sudden. I gotta work on that, hopefully I can break out of that mental block/shell. You're right thought.
Brayden Lee
its obvious if theres no constructive criticism that there will never be that moment. theyre the type that put others down no matter what to make sure their ego / fragility is in check
Lucas Phillips
don't get caught up in the reactionaries, this could possibly be the worst place to look for advice on human empathy / friends
Angel Collins
at least they are being honest, better than having fake friends
Eli Hill
>hanging out with just one group of friends
Reported for underage
Dominic Cox
I know, and I do spend almost 80% of my time alone. I don't see them in person too much as our daily interests differ. It's just a frustrating situation and wish I had someone in my circle who relates to this whole thing.
I know the stuff I've made slaps. Obviously some stuff just doesnt take, or theres things that I like and others dont, but the validation from strangers or other sources have been met, just not them. I've had a label release, an article in CanadianBeats, etc. I'm confident in my music, I just don't know why I want validation from my friends I grew up with. I guess I just expected support form them because I see it happening all around me with others and their friends. It's just their "I can do that but I've never done it so I'll just throw my opinion like its fact" attitude that irks me. Sorry if I'm just being a bitch about this all, just kind of feeling it a lot right now. Thanks though man appreciate the response.
John Sanders
This. And thats why it bothers me i think.
I'm no stranger to Yea Forums. It's weird, people here can be very harsh but it just doesnt effect me in the same way. I appreciate everyone here.
i can appreciate their honesty for sure, but it's almost coming from a different space it feels. It would be like having someone constantly being condescending while never trying themselves. it's just a sensitive offputting vibe, i know i do it to myself.
nah, 25 here. i have other friends but these are just the people i've known since being a toddler and have grown up with.
Caleb Powell
Bump because I like this thread.
Blake Long
I want to hear their side of the story.
Alexander Lopez
You're probably just bad. When they ignore you or dont go in depth with a crit theyre probably just trying to spare your feelings. Quit sending them stuff and grow up. Not everyone needs the same hobby as you
Luke Richardson
Op here, me too ahaha.
I'm fully aware that they don't owe me anything or need to have the same hobbies. They just project themselves as if they do. I think you're right as far as not sending them stuff anymore though - probably will spare me some rustled jimmies.
Austin Long
you have honestly got to keep doing what you do but also try to find more friends/make contacts with musicians because otherwise, no one will help you out your slump. this is how i felt until i found other people that were passionate about making music. i'm assuming you're still quite young as well and your friends will grow out of their adolescent cynicism. seriously, don't invest anything into these people creative-wise because they will drain you. if you need to share music, share it on here or the plethora of other places where you can share music online.
Nolan Johnson
thanks, I think it's just hard as I've moved into a newer city and all the art groups and circles already have their friend groups or collaboration partners already. I feel like the new kid in a new school at the moment. You're right though, I need to be surrounded by uplifting people rather than ones who drag me down. Don't get me wrong, I am being a total whiny bitch about it right now but I woulnd't say I'm in a slump, just frustrated and needed to vent this out. I appreciate your response a lot. thank you!
Ayden Edwards
>I think it's just hard as I've moved into a newer city and all the art groups and circles already have their friend groups or collaboration partners already
honestly man, this isnt the way to think about it. people tend to be looking for collaboration more than you think. no one is ever truly settled. maybe theres something you can bring to the table that isnt already there. even having good taste can get you far. best advice i can give is socialize, go out drinking, see live music, try promote your own music and eventually something will come up.
>Don't get me wrong, I am being a total whiny bitch about it right now but I woulnd't say I'm in a slump, just frustrated and needed to vent this out. I appreciate your response a lot. thank you!
thats good to hear, i just know what its like where you cant find any positive creative forces around you and you can totally feel like giving up. best of luck mate.
Aiden Morgan
Send you music. We can evaluate if they're being reasonable or not
Joshua White
Don’t take it so personally. Learn to take criticism without having your ego bent out of shape about it. Sure their criticism may not be constructive but they’re at least being honest about how your music comes off to them instead of blowing smoke up your ass. They’re probably right that your music is shit. If you want constructive criticism then ask people who actually are musically trained and know what they’re talking about. And keep at it and never give up, that’s the only way to achieve something remarkable in music.
Luke Jackson
I know that feel I have one IRL "friend" outside of school, and we're really different and he doesn't listen. But I don't care and if I find something cool I just send it to him, without even expecting feedback from him. It's kinda egoistic, to satisfy my need to share something, but if some discussion starts, it's okay. Mostly it doesn't though, and I prefer Yea Forums
I don't really know which to send as I mess around with a few different styles. Maybe poke around a bit. By no means am I coming from a place where I feel like a professional, but I feel I am not as horrible as they make me out to be. Anyway, hope you like it.
Austin Barnes
yeah you're right. I most likely am just bad, but I just wish they didn't speak from such a condescending position and make it seem like music is so easy. Just wish they would try for a little bit and understand how it actually all comes together, ya know?
Very relatable. One of my friends in my group is the best, he just wants us all to be successful and is always the first to share and like, even his parents play my music and I find that awesome. One friend wants to be a comedian, I've let him crash at my place so he can go to open mics, I listen to his material and help him. I love people who create, and want to build them up in any way I can. I just get bugged when it's not reciprocated. Thanks for the response.
nice music btw, I dig it at least that song make an album and i'll check it out
Anthony Kelly
Thanks, user. Glad you like it.
I have thought about an EP but I have such a small audience and people consume music as such a rapid pace I feel like releasing 5 songs over 5 weeks might give me better chances to catch peoples attention rather than post all at once and maybe miss.
Jackson Anderson
1. you have friends so stop complaining. presumably, if you have friends it shouldn't be that difficult for you to make new friends.
2. why would you send something to somebody if they have no interest in it?
3. whatever you're sending them is probably shit. statistically. also based on the relatively low quality of the work that the people here post who are comfortable with their stuff. don't mean to be rude, and i could be wrong.
4. you're probably very young and you have lots of time to make new friends and develop as a musician. don't waste time on either.
this isn't the sort of stuff i would expect normal people to not enjoy or appreciate. you must have some really normie friends. anyways, i don't like it but it shows proficiency.
i don't really understand why you're posting on Yea Forums? it's not as if making drake and halsey remixes is something that is going to alienate you from normal people but especially from the vast majority of people interested in making music.
Andrew Ross
I rate it, nice work. You should try to get a bit more adventurous though, this is just budget clams casino
Ethan Hernandez
1. I didnt mean to strike a chord by saying I have friend, but yeah you're right it shouldnt be hard but lately it has been. I know I have to try harder, just in a new area currently.
2.They just always speak from a place where they have interest, if that makes sense. It's like I'm being baited only to be shut down in ways. I know a lot of this bitching I just drag myself into.
3. Yeah, I know I am quite amateur, I have so much growth to do as I've only started this ~2 years. I know seeking validation is such a pussy move but I just know how much time and effort i've put in these two years and its seemingly going unnoticed by those who i felt would be the most supportive.
4. 25, so young enough but feeling the pressure of age already
(5). Why is it strange that I post here? I feel you strangers are all I have to relate to at the moment. I just have a hard time making IRL friends in relation to music, my releases are like a pre-teen identity struggle as I am excited to try a bunch of different styles but also just unsure of where to settle my creative footing.
thanks for the responses.
Tyler Davis
yeah, it's for sure not stretching any boundaries. I made this song for a homeless girl my age who I met outside the grocery store. It just sounds like what i hoped her sad, yet adventurous lifestyle might feel like.
Xavier Wilson
Find people who support what you do and share your vision.
I’ve been playing music for a long time and am surrounded by people who also do. Some of them suck.
Some of them are great, positive people who are just making music for it’s own sake and writing cool songs or making interesting, out there shit.
Realistically your friends are probably jealous that you are doing things that they are not and probably will never be capable of. That’s fine, you can keep being friends with them, but sometimes there are people who suck too much to share that part of your life with.
Find people who appreciate what you’re doing. Ideally people whose music you also appreciate, who make you feel positive, who will push and challenge you creatively, who are fun to be around, etc. Go on Bandcamp and dig through local bullshit until you find someone who is doing something cool.
Aaron Young
Thank you for your response. I never thought to check the local bandcamp. Thats a great idea!
Jaxon Brown
Definitely. My experience is that music attracts some of the worst people in the world, but also some of the best.
John Wood
you're lucky, harsh criticism often means that they're being honest, it's way better than friends that lie to you because they're being nice
Leo Reyes
sounds cool, your "friends" are faggots, make new ones
