music school within walking distance of my home offers piana lessons for $32 for 30 minutes. Is that good or should I shop around? Starting from 0 apart from all the theory I know (basically anything involved in playing).
Music school within walking distance of my home offers piana lessons for $32 for 30 minutes...
Andrew Mitchell
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James Cooper
-1st buy fl studio, its all you need at 1st
-2nd make a kick/snare rythem
-invite some producers over to hang out and get them to help get a melody / bassline idea
-3rd get some studio time,
4th, get some experienced producers to work with you durring your session(s)
5th let them do whatever they want to the song to make it good.
6th DONE! you have a new song you can upload online and start blowing up!
-dubbi
Lucas Jenkins
just buy a keyboard and watch some how to videos on youtube
Colton Clark
This is retarded
Other people on Yea Forums have told me this is also retarded
Joseph Sanchez
Yeah you say it's retarded but you aren't in the studio and booking shows like I am, your pathetic bedroom pop won't stop you from ending up in a 9-5 job while I'm still performing and recording music. Sad to say so, but you're not on my level.
Hunter Foster
>Other people on Yea Forums have told me this is also retarded
What super top secret magical info do you think some failed musician boomer can give you in just thirty minutes that you won't be able to find on the world wide web?
Nicholas Martinez
Maybe I actually care how the music I make sounds, as opposed to whether or not I'm "blowing up". Gen Z should be holocausted desu.
Jonathan Hill
This user is right. They're what we call "based" in the industry.
Logan Wilson
They basically said if you don't get any feedback on your technique you will surreptitiously pick up bad habits that will be hard to break. Seems reasonable, especially since I trusted the melody association method for learning intervals and I'm finding them incredibly hard to hear in more effective ways.
Jackson Fisher
You can get feedback by knowing what to look out for and actually listening to your own recordings. If that fails there are also forums and other communities for that.
Mason Rodriguez
recordings wont tell you if you're fingering things wrong, which as I understand is mostly the issue.
Oliver Roberts
>recording wont tell you if you're fingering things wrong
I guess you haven't seen the sex tapes I made with your mom then
John Thomas
yo you don't even know who your talking to? LOL didn't you see me mention it's me dj dubbi. I'm not a genZ dummy, bro you're probably barely old enough for this site. sad to see you're too young to know who dj dubbi is.
John Anderson
What is your goal
Noah Jackson
just to be able to play some rubato ritardando, convincing glissandi. I realized that there's really no way of getting a warm human romantic sound when everything is quantized. So basically I'm limited to making Baroque pastiche and certain types of modern music.
Jeremiah Hughes
Wtf are you talking about. What is your goal? Or are you not OP and just trolling?
Logan Robinson
Those are musical terms plen. I'm speaking perfect English.
Gavin Campbell
Whatever. If your goal is to be able to perform a "convincing glissandi" then no, save the $32. Sit at a piano for 15 min a day 3 or 4 days a week and practice dragging your thumb up and down the keyboard.
Henry Harris
Just ignore plebs like and just read my comments
Lincoln Ramirez
lol, glissandi are typical much more subtle than that. Usually the first 2 or 3 notes will be taken at a significantly slower pace and then the player will accelerate but not just robotically play the notes really fast. also dragging your thumb would be the epitome of "bad technique". As an experiment I pose to you, try sequencing a nice sounding glissando. Its possible but its a pain in the ass.
Cameron Wood
Why would I ignore my own post. And I'm assuming that you accidentally linked to somebody else's comments because those just happen to be the least helpful and most retarded comments in the entire thread and there is a low barrier to entry on that shortlist.
Julian Brooks
>DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM???
Pathetic
Cameron Myers
Isaiah Murphy
If you are already an expert then why are you asking if you should take lessons?
Kevin Watson
Just because I know a lot about music doesn't mean I have hand independence, muscle memory any kind of dexterity related to actually playing music. Why is everyone in this thread so defensive about their particular brand of retardation? I'm trying to make classical music and part of that is subtlety interpretation. I don't like it but that's how it is.
William Phillips
wow lots of newfags in here, go ask a sc thread who dj dubbi is!
Juan Morales
What if I don't care and I have nothing but contempt for a vast majority of DJ's and the multifarious genres of music they operate in?
Brandon Davis
I'm just asking some basic questions to try and understand where you are coming from. I don't know you, or what skill level you are at, what sort of music you write/perform/listen to, or what your goals are. All of these things are what a piano instructor is going to gauge if you go to them for lessons. Most music teachers worth their salt studied music in a formal setting and take a pedagogic approach to teaching. As such you'll find most will be reluctant to just teach you how to do a convincing glissando. They will want you to learn solfege, interval training, and basic piano skills via simple etudes and studies (so that $32 is going to be more because you'll have to buy a hanon book etc) instead of just jumping around to specific techniques. Therefore my advice was if you want to learn how to improve your glissando, the most efficient way is simply rote practice a few times a week on your own.
Elijah Gonzalez
I'm giving them my money. Am I not allowed to just say Solfege is retarded and say I don't want to learn it? I know all my intervals. I even have a permanent reference tone, which effectively gives me something tantamount to perfect pitch.
Cooper Stewart
> I have nothing but contempt for a vast majority of DJ's
LOL just because you can't make a career with your "bedroom" music doesn't mean you gotta be jealous of a professional musician like me LOL
Jonathan Foster
I honestly don't know, it depends on the teacher or studio you are going to. If you care to provide more information or specifics I can try to offer advice
Brayden Wright
Am I even on a bloody music board? You know we have /soc/ on 4channel, right?
Zachary Martin
Basically I'm going to tell them I just want to develop the mechanical skills involved in playing piano and sight reading and that I neither want nor need any training regarding notation, ear training or theory.
Jason Sullivan
wow you have nothing to reply with? lol I win every argument with you fake musicians . have fun at your 9-5
John Perry
You're the fake musician. You don't even give two shits about music. Plenty of dipshits like you managed to bilk the world out of much greater sums of money doing all manner of creative activity even at the lowest standard of quality.
Josiah Long
Go listen to my music and feast on my legitimate skills. I'm easily the biggest and best musician ITT
Benjamin Williams
I don't want to listen to your fucking music. What the fuck even is this thread? I just asked if that was a good price for piano lessons. I didn't expect every fucking asshole with an irrelevant opinion or mere thought-form to congregate here for a session of furious masturbation and textual frotting.
Liam Phillips
You certainly have a way with words. Did you consider maybe you're more inclined towards writing with these colorful posts?
Aiden Cooper
can you provide an example of a piano piece/passage/excerpt which you could reasonably perform now (or in the near future with some practice) , and an example of a piece/passage/excerpt which, upon performing adequately, you would consider yourself having attained the requisite mechanical skills to satisfy your goals? And specifically what is it you are trying to play - solo piano music which you yourself write? A Scarlatti harpsichord piece? A concerto? Jingle Bells with a glissando at the end?
You already stated you want to write or play classical music. That narrows things down a little as you aren't going to NEED to practice jazz skills like scales, comping, etc, or blues piano. But classical is still a broad genre with an extremely wide range of skill from beginner to unattainable which, as you already know, spans many genres and periods.
If you show up at a studio and just bitch/moan they aren't going to take your money anyway, and they're going to ask you these questions so better to get the "why" out of the way now.
Grayson Russell
Current Level:
youtube.com
Desired skill Level:
youtube.com
Not even joking
Isaac Harris
pretty standard/fair price.
do it. tell them you've got all of youtube at your fingers of course as well. make a progress plan combining all resources.
Gabriel Jenkins
>I didn't expect every fucking asshole with an irrelevant opinion
You might be on the wrong site then.
Mason Reyes
I don't need any training on theory or intervals or anything. I already got that stuff down because its essential for composing. Also its fairly easy to accrue knowledge online as opposed to learning a skill. Ear training is somewhere in between I guess but yeah, I got it down.
Caleb Perez
Actually scratch the "desired level" part. I didn't remember this sonata being quite that intense. I just want to be able to play the beginning part with that kind of expression.
Luke Morales
god, keep me away from a public performance of 433
Id prolly start singing
DR WHOOOOOOOOOO
DR WHOOOOOOOOOOO
DR WHOOOOOOOOOOOO AH
DR WHO
Hunter Evans
I mean, I'm finding it hard to find an actual "desired level" piece because I never thought to catalog music in my head according to difficulty of performance.
Ayden Nelson
yes playing a song like that is going to take years of hard work. While you are right that music isn't just a list from easiest to hardest pieces, its certainly helpful to identify the techniques and skills needed to perform and understand a given piece. Its no coincidence grading systems like ABRSM for piano and other instruments exist because it provides a logical and structured progression starting at beginner level (1) to advanced (8).
To some degree you can "brute force" your way through some music but the more difficult the piece the less likely it will work. Additionally by rote memorization of what fingers press which buttons at which time, you're skipping all of the underlying theory and technique which in the long run could hamper your progress.
If you spent the next couple months with the sheet music of that piece and some YT videos / synesthesia of people playing you could both use your current understanding of music theory and just watching where their fingers go to simply brute force your way into memorizing it. Not ideal but certainly possible. However you will likely find the result inadequate.
It might be better to set that excerpt as a future goal and, in the shorter term, find more small and simple songs to start developing hand dexterity. I'd recommend just go on a YT spree and find things which you sound good and would like to play, because if you hate the idea of being forced to play scales up and down you'll never want to put in the effort to progress.
You'll probably find that even things which sound "simple" are actually much harder when trying to put both hands together. By practicing songs YOU want to play, you'll pick up techniques which you can then use in later pieces. You'll remember what that chord shape feels like, how fast triplets should sound, how to stretch your left hand to play an octave (or higher) comfortably, etc.
Benjamin Gray
>It might be better to set that excerpt as a future goal and, in the shorter term, find more small and simple songs to start developing hand dexterity.
Yeah, I'm totally not even putting that on my radar. I was just thinking "what's a slow piece that is meaningful to me and doesn't have too many voices doing different things" and I thought of the beginning of that sonata.
>I'd recommend just go on a YT spree and find things which you sound good and would like to play, because if you hate the idea of being forced to play scales up and down you'll never want to put in the effort to progress.
I have no problem with basic things like scales. Just as long as its mechanical, I'm willing to grind it.
>You'll remember what that chord shape feels like, how fast triplets should sound, how to stretch your left hand to play an octave (or higher) comfortably, etc.
Well at least one thing I have going for me are big Rach hands with slender fingers. I can comfortably play a tenth
Anthony Martin
There's plenty of music out there which you will both like and be able to learn. If something is proving too difficult then you'll need to bump down to an easier song.
The piece I started learning piano on was "To Zanarkand" from Final Fantasy 10 (not the piano collection version). Video game music has lots of great stuff to play, or if there's movies/other albums you like there will be easy piano arrangements out there which you'll want to learn and practice. Of course there's plenty of beginner classical stuff like bach and others. Erik Satie is somewhat in the vein of Scriabin and isn't out of reach for a beginner to intermediate player.
Learn a song in chunks, first the right hand (a few measures at a time) then the left hand. Then put them together. If the fingering isn't written on the music just look at a video for reference. As you start getting chunks of a piece under your belt you'll be able to apply the "rubato" playing you mentioned, either by emulating how others play or just feeling things out yourself. But knowing what rubato means doesn't help you if you can't play anything.
As far as not being able to read sheet music, well, I don't have any specific advice other than its going to take time and hard work so don't cut corners by writing note letters on the page or, god forbid, simply copying synesthezia hand visualizations. If you know theory then you should have a head start already.
Benjamin Fisher
Well I'll probably just use the Mikrokosmos. I had already considered the question of what learning material I would use. But you asked what I'd ideally like to be able to play so that Sonata (but just the beginning part) came to mind. Actually I find the technically demanding stuff a lot less interesting.
Carson Wilson
I know this thread is resolved and everything but I just wanted to say Satie sounds NOTHING like Scriabin. Never have two composers sounded as entirely distinct as Scriabin and Satie.