It's obvious her primary function in pop music isn't intended to be the "woke" answer to Ariana, but as the female replacement for X.
Yes, she had a ton of payola and a great PR machine very early on in her career, but she didn't *really* start getting pushed on us via high-profile interviews and her songs showing up unexpectedly on Spotify playlists until shortly after X's death. Her image as well seems to be very, very close to an archetypal "SoundCloud sadboi" thing, which is exactly how X was being marketed before he died (i.e. anime-coloured hair, fake depression, fake deep lyrics about mental health and wanting to die, illusion of being in-tune with the world and aware of social issues).
She even bragged about how he was her "special friend" and how he had a "huge impact" on her life: youtube.com/watch?v=vo5JXupZTK8
Adds up. I'd have to see a chain of individuals in decision-making positions to buy it though.
Jordan Morgan
I mean, it's not hard to determine just by looking at how her hype didn't go into overdrive until summer 2018.
Oh bloody hell, why on earth is she going on tour with Denzel Curry, a close friend of X's whose loud trap/industrial/mental-influenced music is like day and night compared to hers?
Or the way she dresses and talks, you have to admit there's some marketing exec behind that. For comparison, her mom and bro sound like regular white suburbanites.
Anthony Turner
Should mention, after Curry is done with her he's going right back on tour with City Morgue and a bunch of other artists in the same genre, so there's that.
Ryder Murphy
Dont like the cut of her gib. Have not listened to her, and will not listen to her. She looks like an evil Grimes. Like the shadow to grimes sonic.
Isaac Robinson
>Like the shadow to grimes sonic. LOL. Much more descriptive than "the SoundCloud version of Lorde".
Jeremiah Mitchell
lol Yea Forums so jelly
Aaron Sanders
>the "woke" answer to Ariana jesus fucking christ i hate this. who the fuck is claiming she's woke? i swear the only time i see mention of this is on Yea Forums.
Christopher Brown
they're playing it safe with that aspect, the label just set her up with the LA mayor to do some "you better vote" and then she gave the usual "dude young people"
so nothing "woke" more like pretending to care and be deep
I know there's an exec behind it. I'm just wondering if the management can be linked to XXXtentacion. Recording and publishing is one thing, but promotions and bookings is where things get pretty weird.
Robert Martin
Edgelorde
Nathan Perez
No doubt Interscope set them up. A lot of Billie's initial popularity seems to be based on clout chasing. Like, if X didn't die, and it wasn't a "cool" thing to have been X's friend, I doubt hip hop fans would care about her at all.
Dominic Adams
So she's just like every other Hollywood liberal type who says "vote" and "orange man bad", yet her art is noticeably deprived of anything remotely political.
It's almost as if her understanding of real-world shit is just surface-level despite being promoted as something deeply profound to better her image. Hmmmm.
Liam Bennett
Concerts and tours are usually handled by subcontractors. It offers more insight as to who's talking to who.
Ayden Sanchez
Very interesting.
How much of Billie's image would you say is manufactured?
Ryan Fisher
I'm listening to her only studio album so I can officially have an opinion. It's a bit more interesting than the average shit on the radio, but not particularly great. 6/10 its ok in the background.
Ethan Moore
Not a single thing she says or does is off script.
Matthew King
Not surprising. What does it for me is, if you look at her from 2017 to early 2018 she doesn't seem to have much of an "identity". Her first EP was just boring, alternative pop stuff which didn't contain anything stand-out. Even the song she did with Khalid in early 2018 was very basic pop, indicating she was *supposed* to have been a pop star first and foremost.
Then, out of nowhere, her image changed. Now her hair was dark anime coloured and she was speaking with a horrid blaccent and donning streetwear and chains. Not to mention she claimed she was friends with X and began highlighting her friendships with X's friends like Denzel and Ski Mask. Something about that seems off.
There was an user on here who said he took a course with a professor who happened to be a marketing exec at Interscope when he was a UCLA student a couple years ago. One of the artists his prof featured was Billie, who was recently signed and didn't seem to have much star potential. user confirmed that, yes, Billie is indeed an industry plant, her label is behind her image and she has very little substance of her own as far as her music and image go.
Grayson Reyes
We'll never know, unfortunately.
Jonathan Parker
That interview comes off as scripted. There’s no evidence she even met X.
Justin Lewis
My verdict is that she did, but the two were never as close as she claims. Her texts do seem suspicious but I wouldn't doubt them entirely since X was clearly a narcissist, and one major behaviour of narcs is love-bombing their targets.
causation vs. correlation. some cartoonish shit you guys are imagining when it comes to execs. she's a plant getting pushed, xxxtentacion was a star getting pushed. both heavily marketed in the same industry to the same type of audience at the same time. so no shit they are going be similar in terms of image and style
surely you realize the other 1,000 artists who are similar in their appearance/presentation. the times/audience decide what they want. this is what kids are into right now. tattoos, edginess, white kids doing a black accent, supposed authenticity, emotional vlog type shit and openness about mental issues. basically no different than what has always been appealing for teenagers
William Turner
NXIVM
Grayson Howard
her primary function in pop music is to trick art hoes into getting knocked up by r*ppers
Because she is an immature kid. If she were truly "wise beyond her years" she'd not only sound more intelligent in interviews but would write about more mature, introspective, and "woke" subject matter in her art.
Charles Sanders
Execs aren't stupid though. They could have easily tried to bill her as the female replacement for X due to X's enormous popularity which reached cult-like levels. Billie has her own cultish fans so you can see the parallels. Everything about this girl is scripted and manufactured.
Landon Russell
Denzel is a smart guy.
Billie is just plain dumb.
You have to ask what he sees in her, if he's not only friends with the girl but white-knighting her constantly.
Ayden Richardson
>You have to ask what he sees in her
what r*pper can turn down a thicc milccbone who dtf ?
>b**ches be bopping it, bow down and popping it >Dropping it in her esophagus >She get so nasty, in public she classy >Perhaps she is able to swallow it
She has too much self-respect to reduce herself to a sex object.
Kevin Ramirez
But she's already nothing more than an object
Hunter Bennett
Jahseh was essentially a clout martyr.
Everyone is claiming this was a random robbery, but it's clear what was actually happening: his killers were driven to take his life solely for the sake of clout. They wanted infamy of their own and found it in gunning down a 20-year old.
As Jah was taking his final breath, he was surrounded by kids taking video and pictures of him. Why? For clout. No one was taking his pulse, no one was calling 911, everyone was standing around with their phones out as his body was clinging to life.
The moral lesson of Jahseh's life story should be a cautionary tale of the horrors of social media and how it's fucked our society beyond belief.
How is she an object? Don't tell me you're falling for the 'industry plant' bullshit.
Nathaniel Bailey
God I'm too old for this shit. It took me like a whole minute to figure out this wasn't talking about the punk band.
Luis Edwards
She's already sexualizing herself a lot dude.
Jaxson Myers
How? She doesn't dress sexy or flaunt her ass or whatever.
Luke Stewart
>hate threads are now a boring ass pasra Can't we Just call her shit or industry plant? That simple? This board fucking sucks
Kevin Kelly
Jesus there's so many things to call her out on being close to him isn't one. If you're so obsessed view her Instagram messages where she's crying over him and the text they sent she posted.
Andrew Collins
I think Yea Forums's IQ is a little too high for Yea Forums-tier insults.
Aaron King
She sexually sucked Denzel curry's straw and loves to say the word cock youtu.be/Q4w0I8YYzA0
Levi Mitchell
I prefer b-tier insults over this shit I mean, Jesus this is like if you faggots were actually triggered by this girl
Austin Diaz
This.
Most sexual predators were molested themselves.
KANGZ also believe they’re entitled to white pussy as payback.
No she's just trying to look cool and disaffected this normie bitch is not an aspie
Juan Parker
>17 years old
zoomer trash
Ayden Collins
>Bury a Friend is clearly about X. Yeah going to need a source for that.
Thomas Gray
Assuming it's true, all it means is she's clout chasing.
Jeremiah Richardson
Her stare indicates she may have autism.
Juan Richardson
Gross.
Looks good here.
Leo Ward
Black guys saying "fuck bitches get money" have more political awareness than this greasy inbred looking cunt
Nathaniel Collins
Billie has no substance to her. What the fuck does she sing about that's political? She's a literal meme.
Kayden Cox
There's also context. A black guy from the hood flexing about how he has money now is symbolic of how someone exploited by the system can break out of his shit and rise to the level of white porkies. A rich white girl singing about how sad she is doesn't even come close to that level of subtle social commentary.
Jose Baker
There is nothing wrong with your pic related, seething boomer
Jack Perry
I think you might be correct OP. She seems to have gathered up the bulk of X's fans over to her.
Owen King
Yes man, everyone is out to get you conservacuck
Kayden Peterson
Wtf man thats weird
Benjamin Fisher
(((Hollywood))) and (((the music biz))) certainly are.
she could be slightly in the spectrum and exaggerating to be more relatable, some people are aperger fetishists, the internet (and geek) culture loves a good based autist, her team is profiting from this.
Jordan Taylor
Why are you guys so obsessed with her? Is this some hate-crush/tsundere situation?
Blake Fisher
Interesting if true.
Kevin James
shillie is such a textbook plant that she is useful for redpilling normies
Chase Edwards
Protip: she didn't have a super depressing personality up until after X was killed.
Really makes you think.
Liam Green
FAKE VEGAN
Elijah Morales
When they do that they remain aware that their whole show is ran by rich white porkies and the only options for a black guy who wants to be successful boil down to how he wants to entertain his white masters.
Ayden Flores
I wish a dark-skinned lyrical rapper could knock me up.
Luis Anderson
denzel also defends x and chris brown. definitely not pr0blematic amirite?
Logan Morales
Grimes does everything herself tho, eyelashes has everything done for her.
Blake Jones
Grimes is another industry plant.
Ian Price
Imagine even caring about this. I can't believe this thread has this many replies. The miserable state of this board. YES I know I'm replying to it still fuck off.
Kayden Sanchez
good for you, you aren't missing much trust me
Jeremiah Kelly
SoundCloud rap is dead. We are now in a post-SoundCloud era.
no one said anything about tits faggot. Stop trying to make excuses and prove it
Andrew Bailey
To her credit she produces alone and toured by her own means for a while, the backlash here seems to be Billie's agressive marketing and pose as SoundCloud kid
Ryder Brown
If you actually believe grimes and billie are somewhat the same, then you are a fucking idiot
Christopher Perez
Yeah I don't get why anyone still thinks Billie is DIY given the amount of money Interscope poured into her and her brother's careers. Also, who the fuck gets signed with one song under their belt without being set up to be planted?
Gavin Moore
Kids are pretty stupid man, for example, they reply to artists on their posts as if they knew them personally, or if they where in the same social level lmao
Robert Stewart
>le /pol/ boogey man fuck off back to pleddit you subhuman
literally everyone that's signed to a major or big indie label has input from mgmt, the label etc on how to shape their identity and career. even the most 'authentic' of artists. labels want a return on their investment and give input in this regard. mgmt want their 20% cut so they do their best to get her in the spotlight etc etc. singling her out as an 'industry plant' is somewhat wrong because it's par for the course - all artists are 'industry plants'. you only attribute this label to billie eilish because her image comes across as incredibly inauthentic and synthetic due to the sudden change in image from forgettable to outlandish.
Bentley James
>The leddit boogey man Dude /pol/tards do talk like that
Brayden Gray
Except user isn't singling her out but pointing out how her image is being manipulated. Yeah everyone in the industry is fake but that's not his point, his point is HOW she's being marketed.
Oliver Rogers
what about it you fuckin faggot. This isnt tumblr. If you want to go cry about some evil wacists then go take a long walk off a short pier
Carson Bennett
I didn't cry over nothing my mentally challenged friend, have a nice night.
Wyatt Thompson
She fucked up, people wont forget that she tried to look like a self made indie SoundCloud kid, with the quirky ironic personality and all, thats the beef they have with her, i dont give a fuck anymore
Logan Sanchez
nice clapback sis. Your iq is clearly superior to mine because your not some ass backward redneck. You tolerate fags, kikes, and niggers and people like you are the reason why the world is in the state it is. Your great grandparents would beat the gay out of you if they were around you fat dissapointment
Leo Wood
>Projecting Remember this its just a shitty music board user, relax, uncle jim wont destroy your sweet tender boipucci here
Matthew Lee
>projecting your gay fantasies onto others nice way to dodge my arguments you stupid sack of shit. its a same your lineage exists.
Grayson Nguyen
>arguments Lmao fucking delusional, your nonsensical ramblings are sad as fuck, i didnt even say im a jew lover or anything, off yourself schizo faggot
Jordan Torres
i would love to stomp your face in. any chance your close to southern california?
Jonathan Stewart
This. No one is going to forgive Soïtano either for "looking at the credits it's just her and her brother".
Jacob Stewart
Nice try braindead manlet, wont let you suck my dick
Josiah Lopez
so what evidence is there this girl is an industry plant? she's literally no different from any other pop star. her parents aren't famous actors. she got signed early on because she generated buzz online and interscope knew they could make more off of her if they signed her early on. her brother isn't even signed meaning he owns the masters and is NOT label controlled. her PR machine is just what the labels are paid to do: promote artists to make returns. why is this so hard to understand?
Adrian Carter
See this
Thomas Howard
so what? that's just her style. it's normal for teens to be infatuated with hip hop culture. how does that make her artificial?
Carson Davis
>her brother isn't even signed meaning he owns the masters and is NOT label controlled. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Yeah, no. Plenty of writers/producers are unsigned and they don't own the rights to the songs they've written or produced. Do you even understand how producers get paid compared to artists?
Justin Ross
Fuck off willingly naive fag
Liam Walker
>her brother isn't even signed meaning he owns the masters What the fuck does this even mean?
Luke Smith
He doesn't own anything, it's bullshit. Max Martin doesn't own the publishing rights to any of the songs he's written for comparison.
Lucas Thompson
I know, this faggot thinks making a song grants you the rights when you sold your sold to a multinational label
Robert Harris
If the songs are on Billie's album, Interscope owns them. Her bro doesn't need to be signed in order to write/produce.
Adrian James
Idk why you reply to me but ok
Thomas Morris
>is "woke" >defends an abuser of women
Oh boy.
Angel Hughes
Don’t expect teens to be consistent.
Ryder Carter
All the talk about her being an industry plant is ridiculous, given how much everyone obsesses over her, DEFINITELY INCLUDING YOU RETARDS. There’s like 4 threads on her at all times. It is truly ironic, unless all of you are literally industry NPCs
