Fucking idiot, Händel is the epitome of a balanced and tasteful composer, he prefigures classical aesthetics in a big way. BOG was the first actual firetruck, you can hear the soulless, dungeons & dragons tier autism that reemerged in BOGner.
He was literally fucking autistic, his only value is the historical curiosity of his approach to equal temperament and revival/preservation of Palestrina's style.
Octatonic. I even revised musical notation with it. 30 key sigs down to 3. Its simple math people.
Austin Cooper
Just as pathetic See above
Eli Carter
I mean even I'm angry about it but I don't try to diminish Bach's importance and genius because I'm butthurt. I channel it into my post-ironic novella in which a man goes around a city on foot and via public transportation while having vaguely deep thoughts, called Intransigence.
i'm still waiting for you to actually use your notation
Brandon Phillips
It's also totally redundant, we've moved much too far past tonality into the realm of pure sonority and systems thinking.
James Peterson
wh*le tone
Josiah Gonzalez
that's what's irrelevant. You don't have to know anything about music to do the modal arithmetic involved in creating a notation system with fewer key signatures.
There is no need for key signatures at all, though we would need a system to accurately notate very minute pitch alterations in a convenient and understandable fashion, though really even that is going away in favor of gestural stuff.
Matthew Sanchez
Okay, so you are an advocate for the chromatic staff then? Duly noted. I, however think that to add one more note position to the staff is a little more reasonable than 5.
Brayden Carter
I am not necessarily, it's just about awareness of the trends in contemporary music.
Alexander Turner
like what, microtonality? Okay so a 53 position staff.
James Peterson
Eh, more like gestures and fluctuating tuning.
Cooper Ward
okay, fluctuating tuning (also called microtonality). so 53 separate notes.
Elijah Rogers
No, microtonality implies a fixed tuning. What I am talking about are minor deviations or adjustments of pitch independently of a derived scale, retaining the micro but dropping the tonality if you will.
Exactly, it's redundant in an era of gestural/semiotic notation. Music hasn't been concerned with notes for damn near 60 years now and I don't see some major reaction occuring any time soon.
Oh my christ. I had no idea I was talking to a total degenerate. Listen, pally, that's not a good thing that music hasn't been concerned with notes for 60 years. Fortunately its also not quite nearly an even close to being true thing.
James Myers
No one cares about your stupid opinions, faggot
Mason Bell
you forgot to reply to yourself and all the other posts in the thread when you posted that.
Hey guys I listened to this youtube.com/watch?v=nQX-YPIBd0w and I liked it. Where/how can I learn what the fuck I heard though, I wanna know why I liked it
Ryan Turner
How's this recording Norrington usually isn't my cup of tea
Try mixing up your method - start with improvising to generate material, or try to imagine a melody, chord progression, texture, or rhythmic device in your head, then capture it with audio recording or MIDI keyboard, then transcribe.
I personally never write in a notation program as its far too robotic sounding and the sounds are awful. Good DAW with high quality sample libraries and/or a real instrument are the way to go.
>start with improvising to generate material dont play piano user.. i can imagine textures but i can never translate it to a score. its odd because i have really decent relative pitch.
doesn't have to be piano, improvise with whatever instrument you can play. Whistle or hum if you have to.
Ayden Wright
youtu.be/rW2cG-e0vYo It's not fair bros... he died so young, just imagine what he would've made if granted a natural death. >tfw you will never compose concertos at 16
Based, Mangoré was a literal savage bull self taught composer who didn't give a fuck about writing down his own compositions he just wanted to play his guitar For example this was written down all by memory by one of his pupils he just heard Mangoré playing this one time youtu.be/iKEWbHDXO_8
And he is still considered the best guitar composer by many guitarists including John Williams
I can only imagine what other things he had in his head but just didn't put it in paper because he was a lazycunt
is gould retarded? Mozart's style is completely clear in that fugue, also his counterpoint is extremely prevalent in Mozart's music far more than Beethoven, each voice flows with character, and he wrote dozens of fugues since he was kid
No namefag? Well at least we're getting somewhere.
Isaiah Brooks
retardation
Andrew Cook
I can only imagine how of a good teacher was Guerrero, i think the classical world is dead because we dont have good teachers anymore Everything sounds like a midi now
Asher Bailey
If everyone hates Gould why is he so popular? With things like the Solti Ring I can understand being subpar and popular but Gould is just a mystery
David Powell
/Classical/ is not everyone
Ayden Roberts
people feel compasionate about retarded people trying hard
Kayden James
>if everyone hates Drake why is he so popular? >If everyone hates 6ix9ine why is he so popular? >if everyone hates Michael Jackson why is he so popular?
The world is dying being we don't have good teachers anymore
Hunter Baker
/classical/ needs to be more respectful and tolerant toward women and minorities
Charles Martin
But not everyone hates Drake 6ix9ine or Micheal Jackson. They're somewhat respected by their communities that look for that specific sort of music. With classical music listeners, literally everyone that know basic shit about music or has takes piano classes for like a day can already tell Gould is fucking weird/eccentric at best and garbage at worst, and he's still one of the most popular pianists of ALL times somehow
Isaac Morris
I agree, and it should start with down-syndrome persons such as yourself.
Yeah, of course Philip Glass is classical. Its just among the worst classical there is. Like this has the same chord progression as that fucking Ukelele Over the Rainbow.
At this point I just want a work swith some heroic or drammatic impulse but also with oriental/japanese flavour. Which is what atracts me of this fragment
Austin Thomas
Mahler 9 & 10
Lincoln Gutierrez
There's literally nothing Japanese in the least about that. If you want Japanese sounding music, maybe start with actual Japanese composers, Momo.
I know Takemitsu, Yoshimatsu, Hashimoto,Yamada, etc. But in any of them I have find that kind of heroic or drammatic power. The nearest thing would be Yoshimatsu's symphony No.3
Daniel Adams
Well Hayasaka is good. A lot of it doesn't sound very Japanese but Hayasaka has a lot of Japanese influence. Also try Roh Ogura. He's like the Japanese Bartok
>Glen Ghoul, the frogposter namefag who tried to make me a tripfag against my will is also a fan of Naruto and thinks Glenn Gould's Mozart is good
Man the puzzle pieces are REALLY starting to fall into place Jerry. I don't know if a more cancerous entity exists in this world. Least of all the Elephants Foot at Chernobyl.
Just listen to that trash I can play it better lmao
Nathaniel Nguyen
Did you have perfect pitch at age 3 like Gould?
Owen Garcia
He was mocking that piece because of how overplayed it is
Caleb Martin
Perfect pitch is a fucking meme. Which is not to say it doesn't exist but the idea that it equates with a general state of musical elucidation is retarded.In some cases perfect pitch is worse because the possessor wont hear the notes as they relate the notes to one another (in other words what is called music). Of course that's not a problem for someone classically trained but there are a bunch of morons who have perfect pitch and absolutely no musical education or understanding.
No reason to listen to that interpretation then, gotcha
Sebastian Russell
Its not a cope. Obviously someone like Gould will have relative pitch as well. Its just retarded that you brought up a genetic variation as evidence of musicality, particularly anything related to theory.
Lincoln Howard
COPE
Dominic Miller
you realize only niggers and people pretending to be niggers say "cope" right? Besides, you're the one coping, y'know, with your overall gestalt of mental impairment.
Jace Diaz
Dont be a boomer i'm just shitposting Hill
Jeremiah Garcia
Also this Sharp guy sucks. This is just a bunch of disjointed movie cues.
Noah Ortiz
whoops wrong thread
Stop referring to me by that name you 4chanX using faggoto
What does /classical/ think about Ólafur Arnalds? I recently rediscovered him as I used to listen to "This Place is a Shelter" alot back in High School and was wondering if his entire body of work is any good.
Julian Clark
This general looks like it's about to die soon so I'll repost this question again for the next one.
>This has another intro of Gould talking about the work Gould is shit. Why would anyone care about what he has to say when he has so little understanding of the music?
4/6 movements complete. done a few drafts for the 5th movement, but might try a new idea instead of the current 6/8 stately dance idea - its too Bach and it is no longer 1720
Just discovered Hans Reichel today, and this album is really great. He made an operetta entirely with an instrument he created. I'm actually quite impressed.
Not pathetic at all to enjoy something you know is bad or simple It'd be pathetic to force yourself to only listen to absolute quality and sophistication and never endulge in the simpler pleasures
Zachary Hill
Yes, because it's the last word in the post.
Levi Campbell
Ralph is so boring desu
Ryan Robinson
t. Amazon
Joshua Richardson
Do you guys know sheet music or do I ask /prod/?
Nathan Torres
This is one of the few places on Yea Forums that knows sheet music. 1 or 2 guys on /prod/ *might*, but its not guaranteed.
Elijah Jackson
Alright cool. Why do some bars here have a fortissimo and accented notes, and some just accented notes? What's the difference? Does the ff mean that the entire bar is played accented? Or does it mean an even louder accent on just that one note?
when a dynamic is given, the music is assumed to remain at that dynamic until the next dynamic is given.
Accents simply add more stress on top of whatever the current dynamic is. They are partially a dynamic marking (play them louder), but they are also a performance indication, showing that the note requires emphasis and that articulation should be planned around them.
In the example posted, accents are paired with the fortissimo dynamic in order to give a very heavy, forceful sound - more forceful than if the notes were not accented and only marked ff.
We're almost looking at a "maximum force" situation - a way of having fff in a piece whose highest dynamic is ff, or just a way of making sure the notes are all down-bowed without having to give bowing indications.
paired with the "pesante" indication, this section is showing an incredibly forceful chordal motif contrasted against the pianissimo held chords.
Angel Reyes
Cool thanks. So it basically means "play this just below fff"?
So instead of writing fff on the first note and ff on the second, you just do ff with an accent? Just to get all the information up there without cluttering up the sheet?
Brody Gonzalez
Who's the best piano composer for a comfy rainy day? Satie?
Ethan Bell
All those accented ff notes are the same level of loudness. They are all ff, they are all accented, so they are equal.
They could be equal to fff or even ffff, or even to ff - its not an exact science. It depends on the maximum dynamic in the piece. If the highest dynamic marking is ff, performers will treat that as "as loud as possible", while if the highest marking is ffff, performers will treat ff as "very loud, but not the maximum".
Dynamics are not an exact volume, but more an indication of intent. All you need to know in this piece is that the first 6 notes in the 2nd violin, viola and cello are all "very loud, accented, and -pesante- (heavy and ponderous)" There is no real exact decibel reading or relationship to fff or ffff for this indication - its down to the performers.
Adrian Martinez
pleb filtered
Jordan Long
Stop making retarded questions
Aiden Sanchez
developing a harmonic system for myself lads. its probably nothing new but its making ideas flow like a clear stream
The Water Music is the first ever piece of music I can ever remember listening to. I remember my mom playing Handel for me when I was super little, before I could even speak.
